Trump said he would cooperate with Russia to fight ISIS and improving relations with Russia overall.
Now, both countries have their imperialistic ambitions. Both countries are already fighting ISIS, even if non-coordinately.
Cooperating with Russia would mean giving up on Syria, thus giving Russia a naval base in the Mediterranean, and allowing the Iran pipeline to be built, benefiting both Russia and Iran, and in some sense betraying Qatar and making the US seem weak and untrustworthy. As well as losing all money spent on the Syrian war until now. Rebels without US support would be quickly routed from Syria and could either flee to Iraq and start another civil war, or spread throughout the Middle East and increase terrorism in the region.
Trump has also said a war with Iran is a viable option to protect Saudi interests, regretting the lifting of sanctions. Improving relations with Iran seems to not be a possibility, and Russia would also not cut ties with its closest ally in the region for US promises that could be broken in the next presidential mandate, if not in the same.
On the other hand, for Russia to give up on Syria would not only make it seem weaker, but create another unstable Islamist government in the region, which will be worse for everyone in the long run.
How then does Trump plan on cooperating with Russia in the ME and averting WW3? Even if they destroy ISIS there is still a lot of conflicting interests between them. If we are to believe the official US position, ISIS is just a rogue state but it's not even the most important topic of the Syrian crisis.
More, even, why did Putin commend Donald Trump so emphatically, if it is so clearly obvious the US cannot right now improve relations with Russia without giving up on so many objectives?
Should have used an interracial sex pic.
pls respond
;_;
>Trump said
Only makes me want to vote for him more. Trump is a godsend
>>66544967
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630264/Trump-calls-America-Russia-work-together
>>66545040
The bomb Iran part or the cooperate with Russia part?
who cares Trunp is not going to be president
>>66545040
> so much shilling
> so much retard
>>66545156
t. Churka
>>66543460
Bump
>>66545122
My politicians said our electricity bill would go down and i would have lower taxes
>>66545254
cause thinking realistically makes me a churka
>>66543460
>to protect Saudi interests
>How then does Trump plan on cooperating with Russia in the ME and averting WW3?
is this /b/ ? i thought for a moment this was /b/. how the fuck can you make shit up like this and expect a serious answer? this is the kind of nonsense that only:
> a dumb cunt
> a schizophrenic
> or a south american
.. could ever come up with.
what a fucking retard. gtfo of here. isn't there someone you could be robbing or raping at this time or are you saving your energy for the olympic games?
>>66545353
You are some kind of muscovite tranny jew or a churka.
>>66543460
US ZOG is pretending to fight ISIS when it's the Jews proxy army to get rid of Assad for the Greater Israel project.
Greater Israel - The Jewish Plan for the Middle East, The Oded Yinon Plan
https://trutube.tv/legacy/Greater-Israel-The-Jewish-Plan-for-the-Middle-East-The-Oded-Yinon-Plan_v12630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYrZkFEiY1I
NWO: Communism by the Backdoor Part 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FgrJpfNTU
The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm
>>66545373
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630264/Trump-calls-America-Russia-work-together
Reporting is shitty but either Trump himself, Putin, or someone else called the other candidates "clowns who want to start WW3 over Syria".
I'm not making it up, you rude faggot.
>>66545548
> express.co.uk
> legit source for news
hah. you're funny.
you brazilians should stick to know what you know best: robbing and raping people.
>>66545373
> a dumb cunt
> a schizophrenic
> or a south american
says the fucking kraut who let 1mil niggers in the country, fact checks here bratwurst eating cunt, Brazil didn't take any mudslimes like you dipshits did.
>>66545764
> brazil
> duh olympics are habbening!
> PREPARE THE CHILD PROSTITUES!
>>66545628
ficki ficki
>>66545628
https://www.google.com.br/search?q=%22I+have+always+felt+that+Russia+and+the+United+States+should+be+able+to+work+well+with+each+other+towards+defeating+terrorism+and+restoring+world+peace%2C+not+to+mention+trade+and+all+of+the+other+benefits+derived+from+mutual+respect%22
Pick any source.
>>66545832
>duh the muslims are coming
>prepare the white women
:^)
>>66545832
did you take it up the ass already Hans? did you get culturally enriched by the sandniggers? please do the world a favour a just kill your selves once and for all, you and Sweden are the filth scum of the world
>>66545947
> brazil
>>66546087
taking advice from GOOKS... yeah, that's a bit rich.
don't you have some dog to cook for your dinner?
> gooks
> nature's human version of the RAT
>>66543814
You really should have.
>>66545292
That's a realistic and good campaign promise.
If Trump really is going to approach Russia, lifting sanctions alone would increase Russia's ability to fight US-backed rebels in Syria. Fighting together against "terrorism" means very little unless either side is willing to give up on Syria. That's neither realistic nor good, for American interests at least.
Make America Great Again!
>>66546167
ha!
>he thinks he's American by calling asians gook
>he thinks im asian
get fucked kraut, your country is done go enjoy your rappey apes you imported, your problem now.
>>66546303
>>66546369
> gooks
> can't even make their own country good, let alone great.
GG, taiwan.
>>66546089
Why are you so rude though?
>>66543460
Look, don't worry about it. Trump has a lot of friends in the middle east. It's gonna be great, we're gonna be winning, you're gonna love it.
>>66546438
> brazil
> stay for the beauty and the child prostitues, leave in a bodybag
fuck you, brazil.
>>66546369
> can't even make their own country good, let alone great.
the fuck does that even mean? at least we don't have sandniggers!
pic related
>>66546522
> gooks
> more useless than a flyscreen door on a submarine
>>66546167
Everybody ignore this dumbass. Germans are probably the biggest faggots on this planet. Go jerk off to cuckold porn, stupid nigger
>>66546570
> hurr durr ignore this dumbass
> doesn't understand that 3/4 of the world has US of LAME on ignore
>>66546414
What did I even say to you? You're a whiny insecure fgt, and the other Taiwan anon is right.
>>66546678
shut up, gook. more superior humans are speaking.
>>66543460
Trump has some cognitive dissonance. He can't be pro America and at the same time support Russia in Syria. The US has serious stakes in the Middle East. He would be throwing away all the conquests previous presidents have made in the Middle East. He needs to pick a side
>>66546565
you can't be German, you must be a new sandnigger shitposting from the asylum centre in Wuttenburg, dont you have some white germans to rape and old people to kill?
>>66546746
> gooks
> OUT
1) trump doesn t give a shit about rebels , he thinks they are cancer compared to ASSAD
2) Trump gives less shit about other countries( saudi arabia? Fuck it) he wants to make america great again not saudi arabia great
3) he hates saudi arabia, he thinks they are responsable for 9/11 since 15 people had saudi citizineship , he called them out in a subtle way many times .
He knows Russia is not a threat to the US , anyone with a brain knows that, only neocons warmongers idiots still believe russia wants to attack the USA
>>66546795
>sandniggers
>out
ahahah what a fucking cuck..
>>66546891
> gooks
> make sandniggers look respectable
>>66546729
That's my point. While lots of people on /pol/ say he is the only reasonable non-warmonger candidate on the Middle East because of those rather vague statements on improving relations with Russia, it sounds like he is dumb or is lying, or maybe both.
>>66546864
>1) trump doesn t give a shit about rebels , he thinks they are cancer compared to ASSAD
What?
>2) Trump gives less shit about other countries( saudi arabia? Fuck it) he wants to make america great again not saudi arabia great
>3) he hates saudi arabia, he thinks they are responsable for 9/11 since 15 people had saudi citizineship , he called them out in a subtle way many times .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjm9v-bA2A
Ignore the stupid opinions of the faggy guy, just listen to what Trump says himself.
>>66546963
keep it coming mohammed, I will advise your housekeeping couselor to revoke your visa, you will be back to your shitty cave in no time!
>>66546729
Why not? What do we gain by toppling another mid East leader?Those previous presidents shouldn't have been fucking around in the mid East in the first place.
>>66547528
Qatar pipeline, blocking Russian influence, and preventing Iran from profitting from their new pipeline.
>>66543460
>averting WW3
Not part of the plan, favelanigger
>>66547689
Why should we care about those things?
>>66545156
At least there is a shred of hope here that democracy will prevail unlike your Vodka driven country Ivan.
>>66547790
It's what I've been reading a lot on /pol/ desu.
>>66547862
To maintain your status as a world power and help your allies?
>>66547955
We won't stop being a world power just because ships oil and Qatar doesn't. And if we're working with Russia, their influence is our influence.
The cold war ended 25 years ago, chief. Russia isn't the evil boogeyman anymore.
I like that Trump is willing to cooperate with Russia. We are (or were, at least) the two most powerful nations on this planet, and we should be both competing with and cooperating with each other in order to accelerate the development of technologies. Imagine if we could come into a competitive race with Russia like we had in the cold war while also being respectful towards one another to remove the nuclear annihilation aspect of the cold war. Doing this would be great for humanity as a whole, but most politicians alive today only see Russia as an enemy because they grew up during the Cold War.
Someday when the people who were born in the 90's are politicians there will be a big push to normalize relations with russia, but it would be even better if somebody like Trump would get it done earlier.
>>66543460
Why do you act like Assad is our enemy?
Why do you think Iran is so powerful?
You sound like a diplomat from Israel.
>>66547955
>To maintain your status as a world power and help your allies?
Blocking Russian "influence" does nothing to help our allies. Unless you're Israel, who wants dominion over the entire ME.
>>66543460
I don't know senpai, but you're forgetting EU in all of this. US as a hegemonic power in the world is over, or near an end, Donald gets this. China, Russia/Iran (and maybe even Iran/Shiites in itself if what we've seen with the Houthi uprising continues, and spreads to other Shias on the arabian peninsula continues.) together with the EU brings in alot of other players fighting for power.
I'm just saying that there's alot going on, the balance of power in the world is shaking and you'd be a fool if you think that Trumps decisions weren't rational in some way with all the political advisors such a man would have. Maybe you'd undermine EU by making them dependent on Russia and Iran? The EU is a bigger player and influence on the world stage in the long run and would be harder to topple than Russia or Iran.
Anyway, I have no clue... I'm just hoping that the US will smash EU, maybe it'll happen after they see their TTiP fail and hopefully we'll get a return to nation-states... such a shame we aren't able to see what's really behind their decisions.
>>66548365
>if we're working with Russia, their influence is our influence.
And if we abolish borders and national governments all of humanity can benefit, after all there are no conflicting interests or objectives. :^)
>>66548623
>Why do you act like Assad is our enemy?
I dunno maybe it's because he didn't let your Qatar pipeline be built, and you're bombing him or something.
>Why do you think Iran is so powerful?
I don't.
>>66548717
>Blocking Russian "influence" does nothing to help our allies.
That's about US, not Israeli, interests. Weakening Iran and denying Russia a Mediterranean port is good for asserting American dominance in the Middle East.
The smaller benefit is that an US-aligned Syria will buy American weapons and allow American companies to operate on their territory with privileges.
>>66543460
The Kremlin is spurring on most of the idiotic anti-EU populist groups in Europe. A weak and divided Europe is a godsend for Russia in their current pathetic state trying such embarrassing tactics which will blow up in faces like usual. It's unquestionably the same for Drumpf.
>>66549140
The alternative to Russia and Iran is Qatar and Turkey, both friendly to the US.
Making the EU dependent on Russia instead of dependent on US allies who need to stay allied with the US is stupid. I think giving up on Syria is out of question, but this just means Trump's words on it don't mean anything.
>>66549472
You're saying Trump wants a divided Europe? Why though?
>>66549664
No that it is Kremlin policy to support dissident political movements in western countries in such Trump. Russia cannot exactly influence the US like it is able to support opposition parties in Europe such as NR and UKIP. Putin can at least give lip service to someone like Trump as he knows his further success will divide and weaken the US.
