What's the difference between socialism and communism ?
>>66525847
That picture is fantastic
According to Marx and many socialists socialism is supposed to lead to communism.
But in reality word socialism means nothing when you don't describe your positions further.
In general those who say they are socialists still support democracy, while communists are usually Soviet-style socialists.
>>66525943
I don't get it
>>66525847
HIV = Socialism
AIDS = communism
One is manageable, even treatable. The other, we're yet to find a cure for.
>>66526025
>>66525960
>>66525943
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Socialism is supposed to lead to Communism.
On a scale of Government control over the economy it goes like this.
Capitalism -> Socialism -> Communism.
>>66526025
You're a spic. You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
>>66526085
Kek
>>66526085
lol are you that guy from the other thread who said he was going to copy and paste that into other threads? Way to follow through, anon.
>>66526125
What does this mean?
I'm not a fucking tool m8
A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.
The fully developed communist economic system is postulated to develop from a preceding socialist system. Marx held the view that socialism—a system based on social ownership of the means of production—would enable progress toward the development of fully developed communism by further advancing productive technology. Under socialism, with its increasing levels of automation, an increasing proportion of goods would be distributed freely.
>>66526125
SHE WAS LOOKING KIND OF DUMB WITH HER FINGER AND HER THUMB
IN THE SHAPE OF AN L ON HER FOREHEAD
>>66526078
But we have a cure for aids
>>66526411
>pic
Germans love big black dick
>tool
He means youre a bit of a bellend
>>66526078
you have just blown my mind
>>66525847
communism
>you have 2 cows, the government takes both cows and gives you some milk
socialism
>you have 2 cows, the government takes one cow and gives it to your neighbor who didnt have a cow before
>>66525847
Communism = socialism + dictatorship
>>66525847
Socialism is pretty much Communism but with money.
>>66525847
depends on how heavy the socialism
>>66527546
How can there be a dictatorship in a stateless society?
The way I remember it is this.
Socialism = State controlled means of production
Communism = Worker controlled means of production
I don't think Communism has ever existed by that criteria. Open to being proven wrong here, been a while since I researched the topic.
>>66527546
Not really bro. For example, USSR was technically in the Early Stages of Socialism, and that's accepting that it wasn't in fact a degenerated worker's state, as some argue, and thus not Socialist at all.
>>66528228
dictatorship of the representatives of the working class obviously
>>66526658
Nah, I don't get it.
>>66525847
Socialism is okay if it's national socialism. Communism is never okay.
Socialism = public ownership of the means of production
Which will, according to communists, lead to:
Communism = A classless, stateless society with free access to the articles of consumption for all people
>>66530186
Communism is literally impossible to implement. It will always descend into state despotism.
>>66526528
WELL, THE YEARS START COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
>>66527546
Actually, it's the other way around, at least a Marxist would claim. The dictatorship of the proletariat is a component of a socialist society, but as it transitioned into communism, class struggle would end and the state would wither away. "Dictatorship of the proletariat" doesn't really mean to marxists what it sounds like to everyone else. They consider capitalism "dictatorship of the burgeoise", so socialism would just mean that the working class is in control.
Don't get me wrong I think communists are batshit, but it's important to actually understand the Marxist position.
>>66526078
I forgot to clarify that they're both dangerous, why would you want to - let alone anyone want to - work when you don't have too?
If you're an anarchist who doesn't want a law, political institutions or structure - when communism collapses or - want to be a slave to the state and believe that someone should plan your life then sure. Communism is for you.
Capitalism is only superior to Communism in practice and the fact that it corrects it's flaws, Communism is not superior, even in theory mind you, and is a delusion or mental illness that degrades from not treating some serious "leftism".
>>66525847
Socialism is when government provides a few welfare services. Communism is when it provides all of them.
>>66525847
>>66525847
Socialism appeases with kickbacks in form of benefits. Think of it as the reinterpretation of the romans bread and games which is why it fits into Goymany so well.
Communism on the otherhand reshuffles the pyramid.
>>66531531
lol navy seals.
>>66528239
>>66531064
>Communism = A classless, stateless society with free access to the articles of consumption for all people
>Communism = Worker controlled means of production
Isn't that pretty much what capitalism is? Minus the free access, but it wouldn't be free in a communist system either because somebody has to provide for it, costing at least time and energy to produce. Capitalism is simply putting a value on the time and energy put into a product.
>>66526490
This!
But the real question is, if there is difference betwen a socialist and a communist? ;)
>>66527512
So my cow is stolen in both stuations?
Maybe I can employ my neighbor to help clean my cows shit, give him money, and milk. I become a job creator and benefit both parties.
Why even have a middle man? The middleman is just as likely to become corrupt as anyone else.
>>66525847
It's very much like the difference between HIV and AIDS.
