Friendly reminder that Switzerland is the only country in the world that has true Democracy in it's purest and best form. Everything else isn't actual democracy, that's why most "Democracies" are going to shit, the people's votes are manipulated for the establishment. That's why this election cycle Trump will most likely have the presidency jewed out of his hands.
>select all mountains
kek
However if he does win it means there's still hope for the US and world.
>>66323117
Aristotle said direct democracy is the worst form of government. An aristocracy or a monarchy is better.
And I agree, an ochlocraty (rule of the plebs) is the worst. We need experts to govern us, not populists routing for mob rule.
>>66323117
I've been saying this for years. People swallow whatever the media shits into their mouths. They actually tout their GDP, like it means HDI. Nonsense.
>>66324136
>We need experts to govern us, not populists routing for mob rule.
I'd love to see experts governing us, but that seems to be rarely the case. Our president Tarja Halonen pushed for a landmine ban based solely on the feels of children potentially stepping on them, despite them being the most effective tool against a potential invasion. It's simply not working if we don't get the experts.
>>66323117
it's not a true democracy, our government does not apply what we vote for, they are criminals who listen to the dictat of the European Union.
Any politician taking residency in Brussels deserves to be hanged.
I am so fucking mad at this situation, I want europe to die REEEEE
the spring and summer rapefugees cannot come soon enough to europe. I hope they will be millions more than last year.
Europe needs to die.
>>66323117
We don't have a democracy anymore. We are de facto part of the EU
>>66324136
>We need experts to govern us
Experts are not altruists. They'd enslave you.
>>66323117
Actually Switzerland looks pretty based. How is it with muzies there? Do you remove kebab?
>>66330282
>How is it with muzies there? Do you remove kebab?
They imported thousands from the Yugoslav wars.
>>66325273
>>66326604
>pissed off SVP drones after the vote...
>>66326604
>>66325273
see how fast this is going to change once the EU tries to force their noguns policy on us.
>>66330437
I heard it's really hard to get swiss citizenship, are those kebabs citizens?
>>66326604
you guys held out pretty long
but you finally gave women the right to vote
and now you get what's coming to you
good luck
hopefully the EU falls apart before you can get too cozy with it
>>66323117
Democracy is shit.
Republics are where its at.
example: rome conquered greece
>>66330628
Did you watch Arena yesterday? That "Europaexperte" pretty much explained it in the end. Just watch what the Bundesrat is doing with the MEI
>>66330636
You fucking retard we are already applying EU law automatically. And pretty much all our decisions we do are based on the fact if the EU is happy with it (muh think of the export, muh we are so small, muh EU will cancel the bilaterale). The Swiss people are happy with the feeling that we are no in the EU on paper, but in reality we are in the EU.
>>66330628
>>pissed off SVP drones after the vote...
I'm certainly not SVP and I accept the votes.
What I don't accept is our gvt not applying them.
I wasn't even talking about the criminal thing, but the quotas.
Also I was talking about what the EU makes switzerland sign, like adding more countries to the list of the one allowed free access to switzerland (this week was croatia).
Nice b8 though 8/8 i'm ir8.
>>66330628
basically just read what Blöcher wrote for his speech at the Albisgüetli this year.
It summarizes Switzerland situation quite well in regard to our relationship with the EU.
It's just disgusting how the EU keeps telling how to vote and commenting on the results of our votations going as far as taking sanctions against us when we do not respect the EU's will.
>>66330628
Redpill yourself
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7mu3jy1nygdemjj/arena_20160304_222521_cut_h264_q30.mp4
>>66333857
don't you have a youtube link ? or srf/rts ?
>>66333857
>>66334032
found it with subs. http://www.srf.ch/play/tv/arena/video/arena-vom-04-03-2016?id=8021b476-9432-4a55-93ee-5cdc2e1c6306
>>66334578
Watch from 1:00:40
>>66328472
They need not be altruists, as long as they are fatherland loving they'll make those decisions that will he be best for the country, and thus eventually, the people of that country
>>66337484
>as long as they are fatherland loving
Hah, good luck with that.
>>66332535
>It's just disgusting how the EU keeps telling how to vote and commenting on the results of our votations going as far as taking sanctions against us when we do not respect the EU's will.
>implying that if the EU wasn't shit and
wasn't a communist/socialist plot to "unify" or rather destroy the european countries, they wouldn't still force you to do whatever they want.
Be honest swissfag, we wouldn't invade you, but to the EU, or to it's alternate universe non-jewish counterpart, you'd still be a useless little country easily extorted with just a little pressure. In the face of any union of multiple First World countries close by to your nation, you'd be forced to suck their dick...
>>66338494
that's easier done than making them altruist rulers, which is practically impossible...
It's somewhat easy to make someone fatherland loving by first off showing them that they are the product of their society, their culture, convincing them that they have a duty towards their nation...
>>66338510
... that's not my point though.
My point was that our politicians do not apply what we vote for and are only too happy to do the EU's bidding.
This was not the case ten years ago. Our gvt was extremly slow but at least we did not rush in any deal that were against our will.
>>66338510
>In the face of any union of multiple First World countries close by to your nation, you'd be forced to suck their dick
No we aren't. It's not like only Switzerland profits from the relationship.
Maybe our economic would suffer a bit but we have good relations with China, USA and other countries. I'd rather be free than being a dutch sheep who obeys what some """elite""" says
>>66338838
I know you guys are extremely proud of yourselves for having risen from being the poorest euro nation to the best overnight.
let me propose to you the possibility that democracy always fails. you guys simply have the least failed democracy for a variety of factors (For which you should be proud.)
but maybe consider not being so proud about it so as to not switch to a japanese style dictatorship. democracy cannot sustain you in the wars and immigration to come.
>>66338838
Ah i see, well then goodluck ending up like the rest of us friend...
>>66324136
Experts like "Merkel" right? Are you enjoying your new role as a Kaliphatendeutscher?
>>66339344
>implying i like this situation
but you have to be somewhat blinded to think that you'd be able to do well when one of the most powerful economic blocks is doing everything to cuck you...
>>66340003
Didn't you read the thread? Our democracy has already fallen, it's just a show to keep the Swiss people believe they still have a say
