To put it short:
>He's going to turn blue once he gets the nomination.
>Reps know this and we will end up with a brokered convention.
>he's going to pander HARD to liberals.
Face it, Hilary will win the non and a lot of dems won't go Hilary anyway. This is perfect for trump to swoop in.
Anyone have their own theories ?
I sure as fuck am perplexed by someone who's been a liberal for years and suddenly changes his views.
This,he's just gone senile due to age.
your mom was perplexed by how deep i dicked her in the asshole last night faggot
And face it he already has the tea party votes at least the ones that don't see through it. Which are a minority anyway, so that doesn't matter.
He can afford to go blue now, he basically has immunity and can't say anything that'll harm his support from right wing voters.
He keeps saying "I'm a uniter, I'm a uniter" tonight's visa was just dipping the toes into the blue waters.
Get ready /pol/
Fuck phones and their shorty auto correct!
> inb4 H1B is not a high-skill visa program
> b.. but le IT is not a high-skill job meme!!! xDDD
> muh Facebook and Google jews need to expand the working pool!
>>66203967
He was always blue you stupid Republicunts
That's why he will win by siphoning hilldogs base
>>66203743
He is already very far from the Reagan-Bush GOP. The left right divide is complete utter retardation, he won't lean left after the nomination. He'll be Trump.
I kind of expect him to go after the war on drugs against Clinton. First, it would draw some dude weed people, it would also give him infinite ammunition against Hillary who has shilled for the drug ban many times and last it would secure an image of "problem solver".
>>66203743
He's a New York republican which is the same as a Texas democrat.
He's a centrist.
>>66203743
i only care about building a wall and deporting minorities, im pretty far left otherwise
>>66204341
>I kind of expect him to go after the war on drugs against Clinton
Which would contradict his New Hampshire conference about preventing drugs from flowing in
but he is such a flipflopper I am not surprised
>>66204311
>That's why he will win by siphoning hilldogs base
And then govern exactly like Hillary would
He is already signaling HARD with the Left, "softening" and "changing"
That is why he won't release the tapes
The difference between a liberal and a conservative is time.
In 2035 you'll see the SJWs from today rallying against toddler prostitution and forced disability surgeries on children.
>>66204182
Why not give those jobs to Americans
Are you telling me out of our entire population we don't have any qualified people for high skilled jobs ?
>>66204755
True words
A liberal in their 20s and conservative in their 40s
The elderly of today thought blacks should be at the back of the bus and hitting women was acceptable. That was conservative back when todays conservatives were growing up
>>66204911
Trump does not seem to think so
He could not even answer the question about why would he move his own manufacturing to USA (he simply had to reply that would put him in a disadvantage insofar everyone else would still manufacture overseas if no tariff exists)
Holy shit. These shills are so desperate that they're working early in the morning too.
>>66205078
* why would he not
>>66204182
>>66204483
>>66204571
>>66205078
This Panamanian shill has been out in full force the whole day. What, are you scared that the trip you planned to the Mexican border will be rendered void if Trump gets elected?
>>66203743
>Implying I care about other republican bullshit like gay marriage
All I want is the wall up, Obamacare gone, and the Mexicans out.
>>66204483
Heroin from Mexico =\= weed made in the USA.
>>66205693
This
It's why Trump can say all these things and get away with it. He knows that the biggest fear conservatives have is immigrants taking the jobs of Americans and ISIS slipping into the country. That's it.
The rest of the positions are essentially wildcards for courting the liberal vote which, like it or not, you need a part of to win the election
>>66203743
He's not winning on policy, it doesn't matter who he panders too or if he panders to anyone.
The reason he's winning is because he is wealthy enough to not be bought by corporate interests (except maybe his own). Ironically, this means he considerably less corrupt than a "normal" politician. At least thats what the majority seem to believe.
Maybe he wont be a great president, I think it's more than likely he wont be, but we can say with near certainty that he isn't going to sell out the american public. He's doing what he genuinely believes to be the right thing, an lets face it that a rare thing in politics.
He can't pander blue. Anyone voting Democrat will NEVER vote for him. And any democrat willing to vote for him already supports him.
He already has some leftist opinions. This is known.
>>66205647
Panamenians practically don't immigrate m8
I am quite concerned about the fact that /pol/ does not seem to see an obvious con-man trying to fish them for votes
A conman that has said ON RECORD that he will shift and become politically correct as the general election comes around
How can anyone trust him at all?
Do you even have an answer beyond SHILL!
>>66205693
Pretty much this. I want bi-partison nationalism without all the MUH JEEZUS MUH FAGMARRIAGE
I am a little shakey on how far he is going to hold to immigration because I really think thats a core issues, as well as the wall. But at the very least I am positive he is going to broker better trade deals improve the equity of our interactions with other nations. He will also be dealing with a R controlled government for the first two years so if he is a smart as he is supposed to be he can push a lot of shit through before mid-terms and get the right sort of government voted in for max effect on policy.
Even if is he just a lying con-artist he has changed the face of the GOP forever and shown what a large majority of Americans REALLY care about.
He's going to win and then laugh at all the idiots that voted for him and go full liberal.
>>66206021
>less corrupt
he is repaying his loans through contributions from special interest groups. he's just a fat liar.
>>66205693
> the Mexicans out.
He changed his position from "deportation" to "touch back" months ago
I don't even undertand why you trust him on Obamacare, he has been all over the place when it comes to Obamacare
>>66206263
>except maybe his own corporate interests
This is something we need to keep an eye on before voting.
>>66206303
>He changed his position from "deportation" to "touch back" months ago
If they're going to come back it'll be legally
>I don't even undertand why you trust him on Obamacare,
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform
>Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.
>>66206122
Or maybe you are the con man trying to get us to switch our vote?
Not happening
>>66206453
> If they're going to come back it'll be legally
It is just an amnesty that costs 10 times more. I mean really, if you want mexicans out, you may as well support Ted Cruz. Whatever you wanna say about him, he did fight against the gang of the eight
> https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform
He has shown in every single debate that he does not even know what the hell is written on his website
Trump even seems to think that H1B visas are "low skill" visas. He is either lying or extremely ignorant
>>66205647
What are YOU concerned about. It's a discussion. What exactly am I even trying to shill, dumbass?
>>66206565
Dude, I am not the one that had an pseudo-University to take money from suckers and morons
He won't even do something as simple as releasing the tapes where he confessed he didn't care about this shit. Which he heavily implied did exist!
I just want him to win. I don't care what he says or does. once he's president, everything will be ok.
>>66203743
He's already stated he wants to reduce taxes and deport illegals. Not sure how that's liberal.
>>66206602
I don't even know why I argue against shills like you. I'd have better luck speaking with a brick wall
>if you want mexicans out, you may as well support Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz will never deport anybody
>Trump even seems to think that H1B visas are "low skill" visas. He is either lying or extremely ignorant
>>66206703
>Dude, I am not the one that had an pseudo-University to take money from suckers and morons
>Muh Trump university
>98% approval rating
>>66206021
That is some third world mind set.
I fear America is already at this point. Go ask anyone from the Philippines why they would vote for manny pacquiao and despite him being a dumbass with no education and a guy with head trauma for FUCKS SAKE! They'll still vote for him because he's no a politician.
This is insane.
>>66206792
> deport illegals.
And then let them back through an extremely expensive, fast-tracked amnesty
Which he even implied that will be eventually negotiated (aka even less than that)
By all means, if you are really that concerned about immigration, it was Ted Cruz that fought against the Gang of the Eight
Trump literally donated to those eight faggots
>>66206602
No it doesn't because those leeches won't come back because they have to go through the difficult immigration process
There's a reason they came here illegally
>>66206602
>support Ted Cruz
You almost got me, Panama.
>>66203743
He doesn't need to pander to anyone, he already owns the liberals and owns the conservatives.
fuck off you stupid fucking sheep.
We will fix trade. We will fix immigration. We will hire americans instead of H1B1 visa employees. We will close tax loop holes for the super rich.
AND YOU STUPID FUCKING SOCIALISTS CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT WATCH AND CRY.
>>66206893
PROTIP: "Become rich fast" courses are always scams
He even confessed that the ad was lying when it said he would choose the best people by himself
> Ted Cruz will never deport anybody
What evidence do you have of that?
Did Ted Cruz fund the Gang of the Eight? Where have you been for the last 3 years?
>>66203743
Democratic-Republican Party revival confirrmed.
This highskill/lowskill shit is another misconception of the Trump team's statement.
When they say H1Bs are not "highskilled" they mean the people filling said highskill positions lack the skillset necessary to properly do the job. Aka: poo in loos in "highskill" IT are basically getting said jobs with proper accreditation, because diversity and low wages.
>>66206915
> difficult immigration process
> difficult
Has everyone here in /pol/ gone insane or deaf?
He literally said it would be a fact-tracked, automatic process
Given that he said that he will negotiate his position and settle for less, it literally means that there won't be even a touchback by the time it gets to the congress
>>66207174
*without
>>66207048
>being dumb enough to fall for the "get rich fast" meme
>being dumb enough to fall for the "free college" meme
People like that dont deserve money
>>66203743
>who's been a liberal for years and suddenly changes his views.
did you get tired of getting your ass rammed by unrepresented minorities my friend?
>>66207103
THIS
I don't see why these other retards see this as a bad thing.
>>66207048
Please don't mind my interjection, but so far you have made claims about Donald Trump's position or viewpoint on various topics such as how to deal with illegal immigrants without producing a source where he states it.
You produce speculation and sell it as fact. I don't know what your aim is, but convincing us of the REEEEE-vil that Donald Trump is will require more than emotions that better befit a tabloid.
>>66207341
It applies to /pol/ as well
>being dumb enough to fall for the "At this moment, I am against amnesty" meme
How did everyone miss the obvious "at this moment" during the conference with Christie is beyond me
He is literally implying that he was pandering to win the super Tuesday
Lots of his views haven't changed
The Democratic party on the other hand has changed a lot, and Clinton's race baiting is proof
He's easily the most liberal/moderate Republican up there and that's why he wins that demographic repeatedly
>>66207456
What specific source about which bit do you want?
If it is about touchback, even NumbersUSA and WND reported about his bizarre flipflopping
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/immigration-hawks-dump-trump/
>>66204311
look at his voting record, no he hasn't
pic related shill
>>66207456
His son Eric Trump also confirmed the long-term plan was amnesty
http://patriotretort.com/donald-trumps-deportation-plan-touchback-amnesty/
"The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally."- Eric Trump
>>66207471
Thank you panama. At this moment /pol/ is inhabited with fanatics that don't visit the site outside if election year.
Don't waste your breath. These people aren't here for discussion.
>>66205647
Shut up you fucking faggot you don't even live in this country.
Trump did a fucking 180 on his visa stance, and I don't give a shit about his pandering statement he made on Facebook as damage control. His whole flop and the next 5 minutes that followed about him on immigration and not releasing the NYT tapes proved he's a huge fucking liar.
Fuck Trump.
>>66207661
>>66207793
>>66207471
Absolutely savage Panama
>>66203960
>willfully admitting to sodomy
what has this board come to
>>66207661
what the majority wants is clear. A vibrant unified American culture free of third world parasitism and a system of governance free from jewish corruption.
it's quite simple really.
Trump isn't expected to deliver all these things in just 4 years. The incrementalism of our destruction has been over generations. He is a symbol of the European OWNERS of the land who want Bolshevik fucks to stop selling it out from underneath them.
Symbolism, mang.
>>66208141
>what has this board come to
Mostly loli doujins
>>66208185
The Alternative Right does not get it
If Donald Trump is a failure of a president (and he will, this guy is a big government creep with a hard on for the NSA and mass control. I am a fucking Panamenian and I know the american constitution better than he does!) that is going to fuck a movement that we have been taking YEARS to build
10 years of efforts from all of us to red-pill people will go to the waste, when Donald Trump, the symbol of the Alt-Right, proves that he can't fucking govern
The Alt-Right is about High-Brow Civilization Processes, we have been working hard to dissassociate ourselves from the dirty dumbasses that the Left accuses us of being, and we are all going to be painted with the brush of the failure of Donald Trump if he comes to become president
All the work of Richard Spencer, of Kevin MacDonald, of Jared Taylor, of all the work that has been done, to waste, once people come to associate our ideas with the incredible failure that Donald Trump will be
The Alt-Right will be set back for decades
>>66207446
Time to take back the true Democratic party, under the First Jackass, Old Hickory himself, reborn.
>down to the very same base
>>66208739
Hola NSA
>>66208979
> accuses me of being NSA
> supports a con-man that literally endorses the NSA and sees Snowden as a traitor
nu-/pol/ is worst /pol/
>>66208739
Anybody else but Trump wins and that means amnesty for the 30million spics here aka the New Democratic Party. Their will never be another republican.
>>66209125
See:
>>66207793
I don't understand you people. Trump moved his position to touch-back amnesty months ago
You seem to be happy that he will do exactly the same that the others (except Cruz if one is to believe him) only that it will cost 100 times more
>>66203743
>Thinking in red and blue and not pro/anti America.
That's why the kikes get their way.
>>66209277
> pro America
> won't even explain why he can't move the factories of his very expesive line of clothes back from Mexico
> is okay with Americans being replaced with H1B visas as long as the replacement gets educated in american universities, instead of freaking actually educating american students for those positions
> walks back on the muslim ban that made him win in South Carolina
I am more pro-american than that guy, and I am a fucking spic
>>66209276
Hahaha because we are just going to let them back in and you believe that? You didn't see the wink wink. So enforcing current laws drying up the welfare(which 63% of illegals are on) and cracking down on those who hire illegals will cause most to deport themselves. Dunno where you're getting cost 100x more from but I guess you're bummed you can't vote for Goldman Sachs.
>>66209858
> You didn't see the wink wink.
All the winks are to the opposite side
During the conference with Christie, he even said that the position about deportation he took was only temporary
"At this moment I am for amnesty"
Who the fuck talks like that about an issue he supposedly sees as fundamental?
i.e. "At this moment, but when I have to face Clinton I will forget about the deportation thing"
He has been constantly retreating from all his positions since his annoucement and /pol/ does not seem to care
>>66210049
* "At this moment I am against amnesty"
God it's such a great year to be an informed democrat.
I literally cannot fucking wait to come post on /pol/ on November 9 and drink all the salty tears as Trump gets btfo. Or shmaybe even sooner if the GoP manages to stump him.
Here's one thing you "can't stump the trump" people should realize: no one has put in a real effort at stumping him until now. Mitt Romney spent $10M stumping Gingrich (over the course of 10 days). Trump has had about $9M total spent against him. That's about to change.
What will happen to his support amongst uneducated voters when they spend the next 4 weeks with their episodes of Honey Boo Boo interrupted by commercial breaks where literally every break they see a video of Trump supporting abortion, or the assault rifle ban, or any of his other super liberal positions he used to hold.
He hasn't had a *real* sustained attack against him because for whatever reason the establishment candidates were focusing on each other. That's not going to happen anymore. Trump is going to spend the next 8 months being fucking hammered on all sides.
All while people like Robert Kagan and tons of otherNeocons are literally saying they are going to vote for Hillary over Trump.
>>66203743
Trump is more moderate than he appears, he's not gonna pander to liberals but get moderates to switch
RETURN OF EISENHOWER
>>66210049
You got a source for that? Or do you misconstrue the way 69 year old men say things. As for the H1B visas it is for skilled immigrants to keep them working for American companies to give them an innovative edge in the market over other countries. As for his Mexico manufacturing you understand the domino theory as it relates to manufacturing after China joined the WTO. If your competitor outsources cheap labor you have to do the same or get undercut. Go out of business then get sued by your shareholders.
>>66210491
Enjoy your untreated bipolar president.
>>66209486
> walks back on the muslim ban that made him win in South Carolina
sauce?
>>66213468
No response. He either has a life and got busy (unlikely because this is /pol/) or it's complete bullshit from him, as usual. I'll wager the latter.
>hes actually going to try to win liberal votes!
Oh no! The horror! This is why the GOP is a joke now, they write off liberal voters for no reason other than the fact that Rush Limbaugh tells them to hate liberals.
>>66203743
That would make at least some sense if literally everyone wasn't against him.
Face it, everyone thought Trump was a joke and didn't take him seriously until it was too late. He's not controlled by anyone and that's why everyone is so scared of him.
>>66207103
Jefferson was a moron, one of the least respectable founding fathers. Alexander Hamilton did more for the republic in less time.
The wall is the main thing for me. If he pushed the wall this hard... He has unequivocally said he is going to build a wall. He would be the biggest liar if he didn't as it's such a main part of his platform.
Social issues I don't give a shit about. I am not a cuckservative.
>>66203743
I think this whole thing has been a show to fire up Republicans to high turnout, with the goal to get Kaisch elected.
>Cruz, Rubio, Trump attack one another to constantly take up airtime for Republicans
>Each build fairly fired up support
>Record high primary voters
>Now they're going to start really tearing eachother down
>Kasich remains relatively unattacked and refrains from bad attacks on others, shown as the voice of reason
>Begins to pick up momentum
>Brokered convention is caused by pulling enough votes from Trump to Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich
>Kasich is chosen as the candidate
>Out of respect for the others in the arena he gives Trump his VP slot for having the most delegates going into the convention
>Trump supporters remain fired up to vote
>Regular republicans remain fired up to vote
>Hillary or Bernie get curbstomped
