Alright Royalfags, you have one chance to explain to me why Britain shouldn't become a republic.
Oh, and before you say MUH TOURISM
>Implying the one sole reason people come from all over the world to arguably the most culturally significant country in history is to stand outside Buckingham Palace for ten minutes and take photos of it's gates
Go.
You first, why should it?
>>66117000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence
>>66117247
Less taxpayer's money being wasted, which could be going towards things like the NHS, the welfare state and education. You know, institutions that could do with more investment.
Also not being able to elect our own head of state is undemocratic.
Your turn.
>>66117000
nobody gives a shit about french castles because no royalty lives in them
so yes tourism is a valid reason
>>66117503
> which could be going towards things like the NHS, the welfare state
Boring bait.
Saged.
>>66117644
>Waaah gonna sage this topic because OP doesn't share my views!
What a fucking crybaby you are.
What's bait about that? Do you want your own countrymen to be forced into poverty? Some patriot you are.
>>66117891
I work for a rural county government department. There are over twice as many jobs being advertised within our county than there are people on JSA. Anyone who is homeless, or without a job is poor through their own life choices or willful ignorance.
I also resent having to pay for Rasheena to shit out her 9th baby at my expense.
You said it yourself, History.
And they're the most recognised and relevant royals of the world.
Hell the whole civilised world will stop the day the Queen dies whether to pay respect or to laugh for the incoming Charles.
Mark my words the world will watch and mourn because in a weird way they will be watching genuine relevant history.
>>66117535
BTFO BY ARGIE.
It's very cool and conservative.
>>66118180
>There are over twice as many jobs being advertised within our county than there are people on JSA.
I see the same jobs advertised all the time. I'm talking low-paying part-time (occassionly full) shite that nobody could reasonably live on unless they lived at home. They usually go down for a week before being reposted again over and over.
It's not a matter of jobs, it's a matter of so many not being sustainable to live on.
>>66117503
>Less taxpayer's money being wasted,
It's like you don't understand how a government works in the real world
>More money for the welfare state
Found the nigger/NEET. Fuck off
>Also not being able to elect our own head of state is undemocratic.
But we already elect a prime minister that does everything anyway. The fuck is an elected head of state as well going to accomplish
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN YOU FAGGOT!
RULE BRITANIA, BRITAINIA RULE THE WAVES, WE SHALL NEVER EVER EVER BE SLAVES!
>>66117503
>Less taxpayer's money being wasted
Crown estates send more to the exchequer than the royals get, and the royals are significantly cheaper than the amount spent on most presidents.
>>66118790
David is really cool guy. He looks much more civil than Putin or Obama.
The fact that you still keep this antiquated figure makes me have much more respect for the French than the Britcucks. At least they chopped the head off of their delusional blue blood idiot.
>>66119359
When the French were cutting off their royal's heads ours had already becomes essentially powerless figureheads. The last time a royal refused to sign an act of parliament was Queen Anne in 1707.
>>66118278
I get that, and I'm not saying we should ignore our history. So why not turn Buckingham Palace into a world heritage site?
>>66118180
'Rural' being the keyword. Jobs in the cities aren't as commonplace as one would think.
>>66118790
I won't dignify a post with a response when it says shit like:
>Found the nigger/NEET. Fuck off
Grow up.
>>66118993
So the Royals are actually not that wealthy? Alright pal.
>>66119359
Hank knows.
>>66117000
The Royal family legally own vast swathes of land worth billions to our economy.
Each new monarch leases it to the government each year in exchange for a salary.
If we take their title and salary, they take back their land.
>>66117535
And? France still has a booming tourist industry, Sergio.
>>66119856
>So the Royals are actually not that wealthy?
Most of their wealth is in property. A lot of which can't be sold without an act of parliament. They cost less than Obama does the yanks.
>>66120007
But Obama is actually in a position of power.
>>66119760
Is it not dishonest to frame that refutation like that? Do they not still have that power whether or not they use it?
It's still disgraceful to have a monarch, and if they are impotent figure heads why keep them?
>>66119934
It's national identity. The UK looks very cool with all this shit otherwise it'll become like unofficial part of US.
>>66119856
There's a hell of a difference between "makes more money for the exchequer than they cost" and "not that wealthy" and you know it.
>>66120154
So what's wrong with them? Politically neutral head of state beholden to a sovereign parliament is better than the clusterfuck the Americans have with a democratic president and republican congress, where nothing gets done because of it.
>>66120260
They have the power de jure but de facto they do not. If the Queen started vetoing laws there would be a constitutional crisis, and their affront to democracy would lead to the end of the monarchy entirely.
>if they are impotent figure heads why keep them?
Politically neutral symbol of the state.
>>66117503
>muh undemocratic
>muh unelected head of state
sage
>>66117503
Crown estates more than pays for the all royal family expenses and is a nice addition to the British treasury, you go republic it all becomes private again
>>66119856
>So the Royals are actually not that wealthy? Alright pal.
No. They are wealthy, but the salary paid to them each year, from the government, is less than they directly contribute to the government from the revenues of their estates. Each year, Parliament takes four times as many pounds directly from the Royal Family than the Royal Family costs each year. The royal estates (I'm not talking about Buckingham Palace here, but their land holdings) aren't government assets or held in trust or anything like that. It is their own private property, and just like the private property of any other family in the United Kingdom, it can't be unilaterally stolen by the government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw&ab_channel=CGPGrey
tl;dw The question of whether or not to abolish the British monarchy—even ignoring tourism and government stability—is a question of which number is larger: 40 or 160.
>>66118822
>we shall never be slaves
>monarchy
Heh
>>66117503
Tax money already addressed by anons talking about wealth from crown estates.
>Also not being able to elect our own head of state is undemocratic.
We elect our politicians to run the country and the prime minister to run the government.
The head of state is the figurehead of the country. If the head of state and the head of government are one and the same then the system becomes less democratic.
People in America are forced to afford undue respect to a head of government purely because he/she is The President.
They get a title 'President *whoever*' which they keep for life
They almost always get a second term due to undue reverence.
They often result in presidential dynasties eg. Bush, Clinton, Roosevelt
It is not conducive for freedom of press. With the Queen acting as a head of state here we can ruthlessly and relentlessly criticize our head of government in a way that is frowned upon in America. This is far more healthy for democracy.
>>66120260
the head of the state controls the military, and the prime minister has to ask the queen permission to use her military
like the House of Lords, it was set up to counterbalance the partisan nature of the House of Commons.
But of course this was not good enough for thinly veiled republicans, so they threw a fit and almost ruined our balenced democracy
>>66120955
>he thinks citizens of a constitutional monarchy are slaves
>>66117000
Tradition.
It's what makes us what we are. Except you, of course... but you're a fucking wanker.
>/thread
>>66117000
Your royalty are false royals. Through banking debts created by many many foreign wars the house of Windsor (Rothschild) blackmailed the Stewarts into business based marriages.
Tourism IS your number one industry don't let the lie die, ESPECIALLY if you faggots are planning to leave the EU.
Picture related, 2 fine indigenous British citizens enjoying a summer afternoon in London.
>>66121040
The queen has a whole bunch of power on paper but she can't actually use it without destroying the monarchy
>>66121246
>Through banking debts created by many many foreign wars the house of Windsor (Rothschild) blackmailed the Stewarts into business based marriages.
>this is what Americans believe
>>66121242
Rather be a wanker than a Tory with outdated views.
>>66121246
>I posted the dank brown people in Britain maymay
>>66121242
I've already told'em.
>>66117000
NICE TRIPS
Because the Queen is one of the few sane individuals anywhere even near UK government. You should make her, Prince Philip and Prince Harry a dictator team and throw your entire fucking elected government into the North Sea with cement overshoes on.
That's why.
>>66121492
>>66120819
It doesn't matter if you don't care about tradition. Pound for pound, the British Royal Family pays four times more to the government than it takes.
>>66120955
7 of the 10 most democratic and free nations are constitutional monarchies.
As are 10 of the top 20
>>66119856
>'Rural' being the keyword. Jobs in the cities aren't as commonplace as one would think.
Then fucking move, dickheads.
I did, many thousands of people do.
>hurr durr there's no food in my fridge, so I'm not going to move and buy some, I'm going to wait until it's brought to me.
>why is there no supermarket in my front room?
Fuck you and move.
>>66121745
He wants to look murrican
>>66117000
go read about the crown estate and then rethink your post
>>66121805
Have you ever been on the dole? Put down that copy of the Daily Mail you bluepilled propaganda munching Torycuck.
>>66121492
Hey, well done. You capitalised the correct word in that sentence.
Would you like a hug?
Oh, and...
>outdated
Really? Check the recent polls regarding becoming a republic.
The British people like living in a constitutional monarchy. Deal with it, loony lefty wanker.
>>66122123
>bluepilled propaganda munching Torycuck.
kek
>>>/socialistworker/
Because it's who we are and fucking deal with it.
>>66117000
Because another tier of elctable representation does not mean we are any better off. I prefer the commons and lords structure, we don;t need an executive branch wasting money and red taping an already bloated system.
>>66122198
The British people also want people in this country to be forced into poverty through Victorian values.
>loony lefty
Fucking hell, it's like reading a Daily Mail comments section from 2004. Still, that's more of a modern thing to say than the other shit you've been posting here.
>>66117000
Because you've been ruled by pretenders for hundreds of years. All Hail King Francis II of England and Bavaria!
>>66122123
Hahaha. Wow!
actually, I read the Times as it happens, but that's by-the-by.
And yes I have, once.
I moved from Manchester to Oxford to take a job. What's the problem with moving from your immediate area to somewhere with better employment prospects? Where is the problem?
We have thousands of people moving from Africa to the UK for better job prospects, to feed their family, to better themselves, and you bitch at me for suggesting that people move 150 miles?
Dear oh dear, what are we doing with our lives little boy?
Are you sure you don't need that hug now?
>>66122767
>What's the problem with moving from your immediate area to somewhere with better employment prospects?
Why don't you re-read this, have a think regarding the context of this being a discussion about UNEMPLOYED people with LITTLE TO NO INCOME, and then realise how stupid and illogical this point is.
>>66117503
Fuck the NHS, fuck the welfare state and fuck education.
I'll bury those cockroaches.
>>66118180
Link? I need a job badly and wouldn't mind moving.
What level of education do I need because I only have GCSE's due to being a right fuck up
>>66122558
Again with the Daily Mail insult.
Is that it? Is that all the intellectual argument you can muster? You make a shit point, on a pointless website. No one agrees with your point because it's pointless and you a rightfully shot down in flames.
But you have to go down swinging...
>but... but... you're all bluepilled. I'm right. fucking Daily Mail readers.
*stamps feet*
Haven't you got an 'Occupy/Resist' meeting to go to?
>>66121469
That is the truth, even now your Queen keeps a Rothschild as her Grand Financier. Google is your friend.
>>66121501
Both of those people are white upon closer inspection. Please explain the culture in Essex where tanning to nig level darkness is the common thing.
>>66122999
>you instantly become penniless the second you receive your P45
>>66122999
Implying you can't claim dole somewhere else?
Implying you can't move house with the help of Social Services?
Implying you can't apply for a job and seek government assistance in relocation?
Implying that a large proportion of people on the dole are not lazy dumbfucks who prefer to live the easy life of gibsmedats.
Implying that all people on the dole are innocent victims of a capitalist system?
Implying your naive political understanding hasn't come directly from the mouth of Russel Brand, and is just as ill thought out.
And you still haven't countered any of my points.
Need that hug now?
>>66122999
No?
No reply?
Oh well, wanker.
>>66117000
Congrats on the trips, but you wasted them on this thread. I've never met a more self-deluded bunch than my own countrymen when it comes to kissing that old bags dried up cunt.
I don't hold her any ill will. I just wish she would fuck off somewhere else, and take her scrounging family with her.
Why to get rid of them? Why to keep them, more like. They do nothing that couldn't be done by paid civil servants, accountable to the people, without the toadying and scraping these pathetic cucks enjoy so much.
To the morons sitting their "mock" knighthood exams, I would like to point out a few facts. You say she owns vast swathes of land. You are wrong. She owns all of it. Every last bit is her property, including the land your house is built on. You rent it from her. That's why it's called a title deed. You own the paper, and therefore the use of it, not the thing itself. She is, in fact, the richest landowner on the planet, as she owns Canada and Australia as well.
Don't get me wrong, though. I regard theft at the point of a sword as being no legitimate basis for ownership. Particularly of people. That's right, peasants. She OWNS you, and you like it. Yes you do. You love your slave collar, and can't wait to fawn and simper if you ever got the chance to exist in the same room as her. Personally, if I ever had the misfortune to meet this neet of all neets, I'd cough my germs into her face.
But my revulsion at the sick travesty that is monarchy is nothing next to the contempt I feel for those who like it, and would silence any dissent with cries of "your just a wanker, so fuck off...etc, etc, ad nauseum. You know who you are, you pathetic lumps of snot. To those who's argument is "leave her alone, she's not that bad. Like to see you do any better" etc, etc, ad nauseum, I would say grow a few principles, why don't you? Actually draw a line in the sand and say "beyond this, I will not compromise, because right is right no matter how attractive wrong looks."
>>66117000
Wish this old whore would just fucking die already.
>>66125134
It's not good to say such things about people.
>>66117000
Because the royals are part of our culture. Removing them is just pissing on British culture even more, you want to knock Buckingham Palace down and construct a Mosque there as well?
>>66125076
*sniff...
>>66125076
Is that itchy cock rot I can smell?
>>66125076
It is, isn't it?
Just get some cream from the chemist, you'll be ok.
>>66117535
That's not the case. Ever been to Versaille? Way more crowded than any castles in the UK. Also, imagine if the Queen got executed by guillotine. That would increase tourism significantly. Everyone would want to see her head on a pike.
>>66122767
>africans come here to work
>>66125471
>you want to knock Buckingham Palace down and construct a Mosque there as well?
>"muh black and white fucking nonsense"
Truly awful argument. Bear baiting was part of our culture. So was prostitution, for several centuries. How about torturing witches?
There are many "cultural" things we don't do ant more, and toadying at the feet of a breedmare just because some bullshit wanker stole everybody's land by force a thousand years ago is just pathetic. The establishment of any royal dynasty is just a dressed up word for gangsters and robber warlords. This is what you celebrate. This is what you worship. You people are literally plebs.
>>66125496
>>66125605
>>66125765
See? Absolutely zero argument other than "whaaaaaah, muh chains!" Such a toadying wanker, he has to post 3 times to make his non-existent point. Spineless worm.
>>66126177
Perhaps not... but that's the way the Left spins it; I was putting it into terms he could understand.
>>66126569
Nah, not spineless.
Just bored of well-meaning leftist students such as yourself, and finding fun in being immature.
Welcome back to the fight, comrade.
Still need that hug?
>>66126569
Oh, and there are some herbal homeopathic remedies for the ICR, if you prefer.
I also heard that Comfrey leaves are good for African Bum Disease.
>>66126869
>well-meaning leftist students such as yourself
You got me. You used your psychic bullshit to astral project through the ether and...oh, wait! That's the complete opposite of what I am. I'm actually a republican older than your mum!
>homeopathic
why am I not surprised? I guess royalty and gullible do go together after all.
How about you come up with some real reasons why we should celebrate someone who was born rich and privileged, has never worked a day in her life (cutting ribbons with gold-plated scissors doesn't count), and expects her offspring to do the same for ever. Oh, wait. You can't.
Have some music while you strain your brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmNNb63TVo
>>66127828
Ahhh, bait!
You showed your hand.
Painting me as a homeopathic believer, and then using that to destroy me.
Read again, my little man, I believe you the kind of person who believes in reiki healing, hence my comment.
You know there's no such disease as Itchy Cock Rot, right? Nor African Bum Disease?
And BTW, please know that I am older than 40.
Anyway, I have to go - that DM won't read itself.
Happy trolling elsewhere, and good luck posting it again... it'll be so much fun, I promise.
Here's the hug you wanted
* :))) *
Nighty night.
>>66128750
>I have no argument
>so I'll be going now
Sure. Bye bye.
