Bitch in my Econ class just said that refugees in Europeans actually help their economy and aren't causing any other problems
>>66083393
Ok.
This isn't worth a thread you fucking dumb ass piece of shit fucking loser fuck boy I'll kill you
>>66083393
And you decided to shit post instead of confronting this lie.
Be ashamed. Be very ashamed.
>>66083393
this i s true. european demographics need immigation otherwise there would be extinction.
In Italy, economic migrants are actually payong taxes to support the increasingly old population.
without migrants europe would collapse
Most of the refugees are illiterate in their own languages, let alone the languages of the countries they are invading. The idea that bringing them in is a net economic benefit is laughable.
>>66084177
this is not true.
refugees usually speak more language than the population they are joining in europe. they are often more keen to learn a new language than average yuros
>>66083393
Bitch should be shot. People like that are more useful as fertilizer.
>>66084271
According to educational economist, Ludger Woßmann:
>Something like 2/3 of current migrants are functionally illiterate. According to the latest international studies, only 16% of German students cannot demonstrate 'basic competence' in reading and writing according to OECD standards. In Syria, 65% cannot do this, and in Albania, 59% cannot.
>This means that something like 2/3 of Syrians can read and write their own language at only a rudimentary level, and can complete only the simplest counting tasks. They will be unable to understand even basic German-language instruction for years. Syrian schoolchildren in the eighth grade are, on average, five school years behind their German counterparts.
>Given their low education and skill level, they will be unable to complete a traditional three-year German apprenticeship with its intensive theoretical component. This helps explain why 70% of Syrian, Iraqi, and Afghan migrants who began an apprenticeship in Bavaria broke it off within two years.
>Current sources indicate that only 10% of migrants have the equivalent of a college degree. Two-thirds have no formal occupational training at all. They can be compared with the 14% of Germans who have no formal qualifications. The unemployment rate among this group is 20%, despite the booming economy and their ability to speak German.
>>66083393
Greece has the most refugees of any country and it's a shithole.
Then why is it such a disaster that most of them are coming to Greece now?
They could use the economic boost more than anyone.
>>66083393
Germans need bodies for their death star prject.
>>66083393
How? They're useless people who are a massive drain
>>66083393
>people who take more from their government than they produce helps
>literally importing poverty
When I use this line against liberals, they finally see the insanity of open borders
>>66083393
Ok. What did you say?
>>66084979
you are talking about people that choose to live in a country, they have to learn a language, they have no choice. them or their sons.
usually, growing up in a bilingual environment help to develop higher comprehension abilities.
give time to time ;)
>>66083393
I'd have said refugees cause longterm permanent demographic shifts of which can make the native population uncomfortable.
Immigrant =/= refugee, refugee is given a place out of pity, not economic assessment and viability. An immigrant would have to go through far more processes, to see what they bring to that country, especially in somewhere like Australia.
>>66085123
if they weren't strangled by german debt, they actually could
>>66083393
Look up Hans-Werner Sinn on the matter and bring it to class/link her to it.
If you're not gonna do anything, don't whine here.
>>66083393
>confusing useless illegal uneducated savage criminal human rapefugee garbage bags with actually competent legal immigrants
k
Your school is sure worth the ridiculous amounts of money it costs you between.
>>66085527
So why don't they just use the extra income generated by the rapefugees to pay off the denbts?
>>66083393
>>66083786
right we need all these young workers because the youth unemployment in europe is only 24% which clearly shows how we are in dire need of even more young workers. Especially unskilled ones. Otherwise our economy will surely crash!
And i guess you didn't dare to speak up for yourself, like the autistic beta male you are.
>>66083393
Don't even try
These people aren't even war refugees
>yes they are
They're not from Syria
>ok, but look at my statistics
Dark black people aren't from Syria
>most Iranian people look as white as we do
Have you seen the pictures and videos?
>no, but there's also some irrelevant country in North Africa where they're coming from
So they're not war refugees?
>they're economic migrants
So they're not war refugees?
>we need to take them in
So they're not war refugees?
>we need to help them
Are you literally retarded?
>i don't want to talk to you anymore
How about we stop waging war on their countries?
>no you shut up
>>66085711
cuz they can't boost an economy that is threated by a gun to the head.
also, the irony of an Israeli bashing refugees.. pathetic. go study the history of your country please
>>66085767
I come from a place where unemployment is 50%, but I a mnot stupid enough not to know that the war they are fleeing are caused by european governments selling tons of weapons to the Middle East.
what should they do?
>>66086188
We built an advanced nation on a pile of sand with no oil underneath it.
The rapefugees built irredeemable shitholes barely fit to sustain human life, then proceeded to abandon them and flee into civilized nations where they keep doing the same shit that made their home countries uninhabitable in the first place.
>>66086328
>what should they do?
Fix their own damn countries.
>>66086188
>Trying to teach a Jew about muh Shoah
You fucking madman.
>>66086328
>what should they do?
I don't know, maybe learn to be civilized?
We have weapons in Europe too in case you haven't noticed. We just have more important shit to do than blowing each other up over who pleasures his goat better.
>>66086493
you are a country built by refugees fleeing wars and oppression. you should help those people in the same way the international community helped you
Migrants can help if they have human capital, which most don't because they're fucking muslims. This is why european/chinese immigration is to be valued, because they actually produce shit.
>>66086566
country? what country?
after the Euro/American invasion of 2003 there are no more Iraq and Syria
>>66086865
>Euro/American invasion of 2003
>Syria
Dude.
>>66083393
>Bitch in my Econ class just said that refugees in Europeans actually help their economy
No, they help the owners of said economy. Higher labor supply = lower labor cost. Falling wages.
The economy itself doesn't profit, as these rapefugees with their low buying power don't create meaningful demand. They also don't help the retirement funding, as their low income - owing to the lack of high-skill labor among them, which migrated elsewhere long ago - hardly contributes to retirement now and still wants to collect later.
We've also already seen the increase in crime, and police is overworked as shit, to the point where rapefugees will often simply be let go again, because they (as in, police and prosecution) can't do shit anyways. Politics told them not to, on top of the courts being overloaded anyways.
>>66086865
>>66086566
Side with Russia/Assad and fix their country.
Someone fleeing his homeland for money is nothing but a rat and should be exterminated. Would gladly strangle every single one of them.
>>66086493
>no oil
It's so sad. The US doesn't have any oil either, so we need to buy it from the Sauds! Or maybe we don't
[hand wringing intensifies]
>oh sorry Canada
>no, really
[heh heh heh heh stupid goys]
>>66086865
>after the Euro/American invasion of 2003 there are no more Iraq and Syria
Caused by that very same reasoning that you have.
>The problems of the world are all for us to solve
>>66086962
sorry
Euro American invasion of Iraq
and
support to "Syrian rebels"
the combination of those two events, caused by western intervention, destroyed two countries.
>>66087076
If you stop the perpetual panic attack of the enviromentalist maniacs I'm pretty sure you don't have to buy anything from anyone for quite some time.
Stopping the fearmongering regarding nuclear power would also help.
>>66086865
Ah the invasions germany didn't take part in, at least Schröder did one thing right. Great, so it's your problem then, not mine.
>>66086865
>after the Euro/American invasion of 2003
Ah, yes. Bongs and poland invade Iraq with the US over a decade ago, hence all of Europe has to clean up Iraq and Syria, and help their people.
Though we could just ship all the iraqis at least to London, they'd fit right in.
>>66087185
no, it is exactly because "it is not up to western countries to solve up world problems".
without that war there would be no ISIS and no refugees
>>66083555
get fucked ahmed.
>>66087255
How very disappointing of you to disrespect the Muslims, very not left-like. They are perfectly capable of slaughtering each other without any outside help.
>>66083393
Nope.
Nope, I don't like it.
>>66087261
>fearmongering regarding nuclear power
I think Israel should sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty so that it can join the community of nations in keeping the world safe for tomorrow's african-children. And then that way the US can keep funding Israel without """"technically"""" breaking its own laws.
>>66087316
I didn't say this, I said that I understand the reason why people is fleeing.
I don't have a solution but I'm not that blind to think that we can prevent people from coming to Europe
>>66083393
no sir, i don't like it.
>>66087037
The economy does profit tho.
It has nothing to do with labor costs, because everyone knows they won't work a day.
The thing is, that government spending is counted in GDP, as well as business loans and investments.
>import 10 millions refugees
>all shekels given to them go into GDP
>they spend the shekels to consume, business grows
>businesses have to take loans to accommodate to increased demand
>GDP grows even more
>taxes and loan interests from them go into the budget and given to the refugees again
>GDP grows again.
The population isn't even needed at this point, especially with all the automation. There will be 2 classes - the business class, that provides goods and takes loans and the consumer class, who are basically cattle.
>>66087059
pass mal auf piefke, anstatt euch in rudeln zu tausenden zusammen zu rotten um in österreich die studienplätze zu klauen, solltet IHR mal euer bildungssystem überarbeiten. ich könnte jeden einzelnen von EUCH scheiss piefken erwürgen und dabei zusehen, wie das leben in euren augen erlischt. ich weiß, für dich gemütlichen hurensohn ist es leicht, anderen die verantwortung aufzuwälzen. aber so lange eure studenten hierher kommen, so lange sollen euch die flüchtlinge überrennen.
>>66087419
I am not left-like, the founding fathers of your country were "left-like" socialist building a socialist utopia in which you seem very comfy.
Gromyko, Soviet UN ambassodr created Israel with his right hand.
Syria and Iraq are not all muslims, you should know it ;)
>>66087504
>but I'm not that blind to think that we can prevent people from coming to Europe
Proper borders, mediterranean coast guard patrols and immediate deportation of anyone who still makes it in should do the trick.
>>66087337
Indeed, and those wars were fought in order to "free" them from various people the bleeding hearts didn't like such as Saddam Hussein.
It's that same reasoning you have.
>Look at those starving black babies or whatever. We HAVE TO help them.
>The "help" creates many more problems than it solves.
>>66087504
>I'm not that blind to think that we can prevent people from coming to Europe
We also don't have to pay them for it.
Seriously what kind of future do you think these people got here? How are they supposed to find work? How are they supposed to integrate?
>>66083393
If all the islam countries would import and eat pork, there wouldn't be any problems either worldwide.
>>66087653
wow, like in 1942.
an Israeli adovacting mass deportation lol
>>66083393
good goy believe everything our propaganda agents tell you
>>66087337
Oh, and it should also be pointed out that ISIS didn't just pop out of the ground one day. They're the ones people used to cry at Saddam for gassing.
>>66087696
>How are they supposed to find work? How are they supposed to integrate?
Breaking your mass transportation and raping the women, it would seem. Oh how history repeats itself.
>>66087696
I don't know. I have no idea, I said I understand the reasons they are coming, but I have no solutions. It is an historical moment
>>66087642
>anstatt euch in rudeln zu tausenden zusammen zu rotten um in österreich die studienplätze zu klauen
Wir sind ein Volk, es macht kein Unterschied ob wir zu euch kommen oder ihr zu uns.
>>66087504
>I said that I understand the reason why people is fleeing.
Because their fellow countrymen decided to bomb them, so instead of fighting back, they ran away? The war is over, it's been over for years, the US pulled out, all they do anymore is bomb terrorists. The new war isn't our doing, it's their people being mudshits and snackbars, don't blame us.
I understand why their country is shit, it's because their people are shit, and that young, healthy men flee by the millions instead of taking their country back only reinforces that image.
>I don't have a solution but I'm not that blind to think that we can prevent people from coming to Europe
Of course we can, who the fuck do you think we are? If we wanted to, we could ship them back, take over their countries and piss on their heads until they accept being our bitch again. We just don't, because we're retarded.
>>66087797
ISIS are mostly former Saddam's soldiers. The new american funded Iraqi army/government is mostly Shiia
>>66087893
>Unterschied
OK Hitlier I think we all know what you just said there
>>66087858
>I have no solutions
Well then stop hindering the people who got solutions with your defeatist shit.
>>66087634
>that government spending is counted in GDP,
GDP growth is an indicator, not a cause. Just because a number gets bigger doesn't mean there's real economic profit. Also, we can spend money on ourselves just fine, thank you.
Ye in like 50 years they might start doing something positive to the economy but the EU will collapse before then for sure because there is no way to sustain all these shitskins and niggers with welfare while also keeping the taxpayers calm as they get harassed, raped and murdered in their own country while police protects the criminals.
>>66087647
>I am not left-like, the founding fathers of your country were "left-like" socialist building a socialist utopia in which you seem very comfy.
And we were doing okay. Then in the 80s we took a right turn towards a more capitalist approach and since then we're no longer okay. We're great. Our HDI now matches or exceeds some Western European nations despite the huge defense budget.
Also, these leftist socialist founding fathers also happened to be staunch patriots. The likes of Ben Gurion and Dayan would see most modern leftists as outright traitors.
>>66087924
>ISIS are mostly former Saddam's soldiers.
HAH! No m8, they are not. Saddam's government was secular. Brutal, but secular.
>>66088049
>Our HDI now matches or exceeds some Western European nations despite the huge defense budget.
the defence budget funded by the usa you mean ?
>>66088049
oh I know, they hated the Mapam and the communists.
good luck without american aid and protection! you are little more than an american Puppet State like Kosovo but you have this mem of "flower in the desert".
have fun with your amerilard masters
>>66088293
Related:
> http://www.theonion.com/article/obama-sarcastically-asks-how-israel-afforded-such--31750
>>66083393
I didn't know they had a special ed economics class.
>>66088490
How else are you going to get a special degree?
>>66086717
>in the same way the international community helped you
Yes, it only took 6 million of us getting killed to get a tiny country in a sea of Arabs which, were it not for some legitimate miracles, would have been wiped out immediately by the massive attacks fronted by the surrounding nations. Thank you Britain, for letting us all in so willingly, oh wait, no you didn't.
>>66087989
>GDP growth is an indicator, not a cause. Just because a number gets bigger doesn't mean there's real economic profit.
Indicators are the only thing that matters in modern economy. If the indicators are in the green everything is ok, even if the population is fucked.
>>66083393
I hate that economic argument. The vast majority of refugees don't know how to write or read in their own sandlanguage let alone English or German. What type of contribution can they make if most of them are uneducated savages?
>>66088698
Hey, we gave you your fucking holy stretch of wasteland didn't we? Also seem to remember fighting a war on your behalf. Don't bitch.
>>66088308
>>66088293
>America withdraws aid
>Our GDP drops by about 1%
>???
Also, 75% of the aid must be spent exclusively on purchases from American companies, and the US gets first dibs on any technology developed using their funds and assistance.
>>66088698
>Thank you Britain, for letting us all in so willingly, oh wait, no you didn't
Britain had to reduce the rate at which you were allowed in because, contrary to their original thinking, the economic benefits fell short of the social problems you caused.
The long term goal in the first place was merely to try to elevate the savage Arabs to be a doorway further East in such a way that it wouldn't look like the British were horrible slavemasters as in for instance India (crown jewel, poo in loo). The Arabs had been assessed as being clearly culturally superior to the Jews, and everything went wrong when you messed up Palesine and started calling it Israel. That's historical fact.
>>66086328
Fight for their fucking country? Fight to get rid of Isis or Assad if he is as bad as western media say he is?
>>66088698
>were it not for some legitimate miracles
So that's what you call being armed by several countries now.
>it only took 6 million of us getting killed
Ah, yes. There we go.
Fek that bitches pussy
Kek
>>66083393
Tell her that unquantifiable losses of family relationships due to separation from the close extended families they left behind in "Syria" will never recouped by working below minimum wage as a slave for Amazon.
>>66086865
Syria situation has nothing to do with that. It was the rise of a Shia government in Iraq that made the Taliban and other Sunni extremist get butthurt and decided to rebel against the Shia governments. Of course Saudi Arabia is behind them backing them.
>>66088698
>Jewish history starts with muh six million
You deserved more than a few of these.
>>66083393
>women
>saying something intelligent
pick uno
>>66083393
Tell her thank you from me anon
How stupid we Europeans are, right?
Glad some leftishit can educate us on what is happening on our livingroom
They are very hard workers who do much for criminal elements in Roppongi. Such as placing the sedative in foreign visitor beer and take credit cards. AFRICANS always.
>>66083393
The refugees are the best thing to happen in Europe since birth of either Karl Marx or USSR
>>66089014
so you are saying that without the alliance with the USA Israel would still exist? do you really think this is true?
you look like an intelligent fella so you must be aware that without USA partnership you would not exist
>>66090074
I am of the firm belief that Brazil is going to come out better than expected in the end in spite of... things...
>>66087337
America didn't invent Islam. Of course you can blame US and European actions as an effective funding and recruitment drive for terrorists, but it's retarded to try pinning that as the reason that a militant religion is doing what it has been doing for centuries.
>>66090260
Israel was not a close ally to the US until after the 6 day war.
1% of GDP.
Many nations took harder hits without vanishing into thin air.
>>66090399
Zbigniew Brzezinski was once asked if it was really worth it making Al Qaeda. To paraphrase, he said, "nobody cares about a bunch of angry muslims compared to taking out the USSR."
Now, I don't think there's really a superior level of intelligence running the show these days, and neither does he, but wow talk about a plan that backfired. And the problem is of course the deficit of intelligence running the show. These people really are "stupid" for lack of a better word.
>>66090399
George W. Bush created this mess, even his closer aides are admitting he is to blame
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-stuck-with-maliki--and-lost-iraq/2014/07/03/0dd6a8a4-f7ec-11e3-a606-946fd632f9f1_story.html
>>66090543
ok so you think that the alliance with USA is not an important thing.
good to know that the self esteem of Israelis is so high that it borders with denial
>>66090543
>6 day war
Oh yeah, by the way, thanks for not entirely sinking the USS Liberty and leaving enough people alive to tell the story.
>oh look at us, we're unmarked planes
>totally not jews
>just being greatest ally
>nothing to see here folks
>also gibs money
Hardly LBJ's only crime.
>>66083786
Right, the government's ponzy schemes need new people to keep existing, let's import all the muslims.
>>66090932
>ok so you think that the alliance with USA is not an important thing.
Of course it's important, but it wouldn't be nearly destructive enough to doom the country if it were to end.
>>66089613
Saudis are allies of the USA as Israel is.
The Shia government of Iraq was funded by americans and their shitty strategy created this mess.
it is not me, it is said by former George W Bush aides
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-stuck-with-maliki--and-lost-iraq/2014/07/03/0dd6a8a4-f7ec-11e3-a606-946fd632f9f1_story.html
>>66090714
>>66090794
I already acknowledged this in the beginning, but yes, it would help to stop thinking that there are any good groups worth supporting in the ME aside from secular dictators.
Also this is especially poignant to bring up in context of the refugee situation. How many of them are actually devout? Probably next to none. How many of them are from wartorn countries? Next to none. They weren't ACTUALLY spurned into going to Europe because of war. They want money and they want white women and they act like animals. The West can stop trying to help any of their countries and cut off their access to the civilized world - problem solved.
>>66091135
I am happy you are living in denial.
I'd like to go to Israel in vacation, to Jerusalem not to Tel Aviv because I am not interested in gay pride parades
refugee crime in Germany alone:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z12D0zt-V4iI.kXGfjpzjOS1Q
There is not, and has never been anything non-Europeans have brought Europe that outweighs losing our homelands forever and the utter misery they cause us.
>>66091188
You said it better than I could have.
>>66083786
>in order to prevent the extinction of European people we need to replace them with non-Europeans.
>otherwise there would be extinction
Kill yourself.
>>66090794
I don't think anyone on /pol/ wouldn't agree with that. The point is that this savages are just acting as expected in this scenario. This sandniggers were never peaceful people, their own religion and school of though is detrimental with being peaceful or moderate.
>>66086865
>a government is a volk
kill yourself you African scum.
>>66085123
>>66088698
Israeli Jew, I want you to know that while your country was founded by manipulating, terrorist scum and I have nothing but contempt for the Jewish elite which manipulate the economies and media of my country (and others,) I do not hold the average citizen of Israeli or regular Jewish people to be culpable for the actions of the minority. In the same way that I think it is ridiculous that contemporary Germans are made to feel responsible for the Holocaust or that white guilt is forced upon Americans for slavery, I recognize that those of you living in Israel today are only inheritors of a struggle for nationhood you were set upon by your ancestors. Though, were I in a position to make policy, I would do my hardest to rectify the disproportionate involvement of my country in Middle Eastern affairs and to wrest media control away from foreign interests, it's firmly on the basis of what's best for my country (and therefore, family and self) and not through claiming moral superiority, as were I an Israeli or a Jew I would do nothing different.
>>66091419
ehy man, I come from Sicily, we wuz muslim enlightenment and shit.
I don't care if northern european are butthurt, we are the poorest part of Europe so for us refugees are actually a resource, with all those yourobux flowing in for rescuing refugees and feeding them.
for Sicily mass migration is a win-win. maybe northern yuro scum hate it but we love it lol
>>66091188
This. The best plan of action regarding savages is to minimize their contact surface area with the civilized world.
It goes without saying that this implies a complete halt of islamic immigration into the West.
Even if there are shortages in unskilled labor there are plenty of options to choose from without scraping the bottom of the barrel. And who said granting citizenship is desirable? Work visas exist.
>>66091466
Argentina have some muslim too, like Claudio Husain, isn't it?
>>66091638
Did you forget to gargle enough dick, or just wake up before your hangover began?
>>66083393
>women
>economics
Pick one
>>66091655
African confirmed.
>>66091765
It's all right kiddo, one day you too may be capable of critical thought.
>>66091890
If only that would apply to our policymakers.
>>66091719
like falashas. you needed them for work an "humanitarian reasons" and now you treat them like shit.
same thing with sudanese you imported to work for you, now you don't grant them visas.
it is great that Israelis ancestor suffered for lack of visas and now their sons are treating people the same way jews were treated.
maybe it is some form of Oedipus complex, Sigmund?
>>66085767
This guy gets it.
We need LESS people and more jobs in industry and agriculture.
Nearly everyone works in the service industry, i.e. is useless.
>>66083393
Well, here's my theory.
Do you really think the European leaders (cucklord Merkel) care about European culture and values? To them, Europe is just a money making scheme for them, and in order to keep their economies growing and expanding, more Europeans need to be having children, which obviously, the native European population (and even second/third generation foreigners) aren't doing enough of in order to keep the economy going, and to keep the welfare state in check.
In short, they don't care about European culture, or even the white race (something you fags hold very dear to your heart because god forbid you be proud of something that requires a certain deal of merit), so they import a young, relatively healthy population, and they do it all under the guise of humanitarianism and human compassion.
>mfw some theoretically driven cocksucker tells me about how amazing open borders are for the economy
>"FORGET ABOUT THE EXTERNALITIES AND SHIT LIKE NATIONALISM AND SAFETY AND CULTURE, OUR GDP WILL RISE BY 5%, WOW!!!!!"
Some anon said a quote a while back in one of these threads that stuck with me
"A country is not a fucking economy. It has an economy. "
>>66086962
>>66087255
>Two Baathists in power
Peace in the middle east
>Forcing a Democracy on half (for which the culture isn't mature enough) and leaving 1 Baathist
Isis
>>66091756
Yeah estimations go from 200k to 1m depending on your goals. Basically Argentina had a lot of immigration from turkey, Syria or other countries several years ago. Most are completely assimilated into the country and only a few still keep their sandnigger religion. For example despite the "large" number of them you will NEVER see them in public acting like Muslims, not with their cloths or with their habits like praying towards mecca.
>>66085421
>you are talking about people that choose to live in a country, they have to learn a language, they have no choice. them or their sons.
First of all you mysoginistic cis shit, what the fuck is wrong with you leaving out the daughters? This is why Islam needs a feminist revolution.
>usually, growing up in a bilingual environment help to develop higher comprehension abilities.
give time to time ;)
No, see Mexican communities in the US, 2nd or 3rd generations are speaking fractured english at best.
>>66083393
>Help /pol/, I was BTFO by a sensible feminist
Lol, when Hillary is president, your cishet whitel male kind will be working in the gulags, as it should be.
>>66085421
Damn cuck stop defending this illiterates. Either they are doctors and lawyers or they are low level scum, they can't be both.
>>66092015
Now that's just crazy talk. I'm fairly convinced at this point that the only way for any real change to happen in our country is a hard reset; the institutions of our government are so completely co-opted by interests at odds with those of the American people that there's no way to rouse it out of partisan paralysis into rocking the boat, especially as our politicians are essential middlemen for foreign and corporate interests. Along with that sorry situation, we have a population that is split into factions of total apathy, impotent protest, or active idiocy fucking around on insane fringe issues (like LGBT rights, "social justice," and third wave feminism.) On top of all that, we have a state-guided, corporate controlled media apparatus running 24/7 catered narratives aimed at keeping people uninformed and divided, race baiting and reinforcing feelings of victim hood and rage between peoples.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, we live in an age of complete instant gratification due to the digital circus, where people are at best unconcerned about self-improvement and in many cases actively anti-intellectual. Entitlement and selfish individualism are the norm, as traditional community structures (like a nuclear family or church) have decayed and blown away. People, despite being totally connected to the entire globe, are totally isolated within their own communities because they have no tangible sense of identity other than the special interests they cling to as life preservers of self-definition.
Sorry for all that, but it's a tough time to be alive.
>>66092824
You are from Argentina.
Are you really in any position to be criticizing illiterate people?
>>66085421
Yet most Mexicans here still haven't learned much English beyond "Fuck you Gringo!"
>>66092873
I lost track of my point: essentially, the American state and American politicians at a federal level cannot be relied upon in their current composition to look out for the interests of the American people. Nor do the American people themselves seem able or willing at this point to force real change. I've become convinced that nothing can happen for the better unless things get a lot worse first.
So, with all my foresight, I'll probably starve to death or get shot in the coming civil unrest.
>>66092949
You are from Ireland.
Are you really in a position to be criticising anyone's use of language? Your English is the combined degeneracy of abortion and meth use.
>>66092873
Either that or we raise the entire cuckosphere surrounding DC back to the ground, and maybe ask Canada to do it a second time to the WH while we're at it.
Which way the wind will blow I don't know, but the next time I catch you talking about making policy I'll mash your fucking face in with a large, heavy, object made of glass that I've been drinking out of.
>>66083393
Oh god, they'ye infecting even economics now? God help us all, econ students are almost always conservatives.....
>>66086188
Kikes knew the refugee life, didn't like it, became puppet masters, got their own country, and told refugees to fuck off, because they don't want them to become the new GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE™
>>66083393
What?
>limited jobs
>limited to no education
>can't speak German
>have no money themselves
This isn't rocket science.
>>66083393
http://ledarsidorna.se/2016/02/hungriga-vargar-jagar-bast/
>>66083393
The argument is that there is a worker crisis in countries and the natives aren't having enough kids to keep expanding
There is no worker crisis in any job that these refugees could do and if they wanted people to have kids they should incentive them to do so, not import a bunch of fucking illiterate savages god damn it
>>66093539
don't forget to buy my college loans
>>66091638
>I have nothing but contempt for the Jewish elite which manipulate the economies and media of my country (and others,)
You misidentify the problem. Modern leftist, progressive, multicultist proto-Marxist elite.
All are equally a threat, not because of their ethnicity, gender and nationality but because of their ideology.
>and others
That includes us, and our "beloved" left leaning media, courts and various foreign funded NGOs. The reason they couldn't cause the amount of decay such as seen in Germany and Sweden is because the imminent threat by our close neighbors cannot be ignored by a public that lives in close proximity to it all no matter how much propaganda you feed them. The slow, gradual, creeping process that happens when you import scum over decades through the back door is less plausible because the public is always alert to any weakening of borders and defenses which can spell immediate disaster. There just isn't enough complacency.
>In the same way that I think it is ridiculous that contemporary Germans are made to feel responsible for the Holocaust or that white guilt is forced upon Americans for slavery
Agreed. People are only responsible for their own actions. Certainly not for events that occurred before they were born.
>to wrest media control away from foreign interests
We, and indeed most civilized nations, share the same problem. It's important to note though, that the foreign interests you speak of mostly stem from domestic traitors. Of course they collaborate and coordinate with cultural marxists abroad, mostly to acquire funds and boost their perceived legitimacy (look! esteemed foreigners like us, we're so progressive in their eyes!), but the fact remains that the origin of leftist subversion is always domestic.
I do not object to calling them "foreign interests" though because they seek to ruin (aka "deconstruct") anything and everything about your country in particular, Western civilization in general.
>>66092949
At least I can communicate in the lingua franca of the world. I guess that is too much to expect from this doctor's and lawyers from Syria. Also pls notice that I don't give an shit about my nation estate of education, I got mine and if the average brown retard here is too retarded to get a degree in college then it is not my problem.
>>66083393
They are, although saying that they are helping the economy on an immediate basis is absurd.
Within 10 years they can be used to lower wages and thus help the corporatists, but they are a net loss for the state within the first 10 years and for the people they are a loss forever
>>66092187
>same thing with sudanese you imported to work for you, now you don't grant them visas.
You're full of shit, Vicenzo. Most of the legal work visa workers come from the Philippines and China. The sudanese and eritreans are uninvited border jumping benefit scroungers, pickpocketers and rapists entering via the southern border from Egypt.
Well, used to be entering. We ended up building this to repel them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Egypt_barrier
>While 9,570 citizens of various African countries entered Israel illegally in the first half of 2012, only 34 did the same in the first six months of 2013, after construction of the main section of the barrier was completed
Apparently walls do work, who could have guessed?
>>66093663
Also supporting this low skilled workers immigration is retarded when automation is now a few years away. We are entering an age where a lot of low skilled jobs in the industry service are going extinct, bringing this type of immigrants will only cause problems on the long term.
>>66093979
BUILD IT
businesses that rent goats by the hour are booming in europe!
>>66083393
Only if the native population is educated enough and there is enough social mobility for them to move up to jobs that require both education and complex language skills in the native language. Those factors being present, it is easier for natives to adjust, but only if those factors are there.
I work at a refugee camp. The camp is 80% women and children and ALL OF THEM are engineers, scientists, mathematicians, philosophers and artists. It's fucking amazing, they could contribute so much if not for racism.
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING EUROPEAN RENAISSANCE 2
>>66083393
Assfuck her.. This shows women their pace.
