If trump loses the nomination because of a brokered convention, what's going to happen?
President rato?
Civil war?
WW3?
Holy shit the possibilities are endless. The great happening is soon approaching.
>>66071962
Everyone will be outraged for a week and then go back to their daily lives.
>>66072948
This, no one will do shit cause muh tv/vidya
They wouldn't ever do that. The Republican Party would be destroyed. No one would ever vote for their candidate again. If Trump is steamrolling cruz and rubio, and they give it to anyone else, his voters would be furious. Its either the republican party makes a shift away from BS religion and towards moderate, or another party will take their place. Id bet they change with trump
>>66073323
The crazy religion shit is why I hesitate to vote republican. They need to ditch that shit.
>>66071962
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
>>66073323
t. Ron Paul voter, circa 2012
>>66071962
you can always write him in
>>66073520
just add that beautiful quote to the list of why the establishment took him out
>>66071962
If Trump is a clear winner but the GOP establishment acts like he's not and calls a brokered convention:
1) they'll try to find a way to get anyone else elected
2) the GOPe fucking hates Cruz, but they would swallow their pride and give him the nomination
3) except they can't do that because Trump threatened to run 3rd party if they blatantly fuck him over like that
4) Trump running 3rd party would cause a massive breakup in the GOP base and wouldn't just destroy their chances this election, but it would essentially destroy the GOP for the rest of eternity.
And #4 would honestly probably happen even if he didn't run 3rd party, merely because he's gained so much support that it's impossible to do. People are pissed off and you can't just sweep trump under a rug and have everything go back to normal
the GOP will be split, shillary will easily get the presidency. this has been planned since 2008.
Depends what kind of "brokered convetion" you are talking about.
If it's a brokered convention where Trump didn't have like 10 delegates to get the majority, then the GoP will collapse.
If it's a much more obvious almost equal 2 way or 3 way race, most people will just deal will it.
It depends on whether or not Trump will win the winner-takes-all states and Cali/NY
>>66071962
It's pretty clear from the success of both Bernie and Trump that the country is coming apart ideologically. I don't think there's been this much partisan hostility since before the Civil War, only this time the big issue seems to be nationalism vs globalism. There are echoes of this in Europe. War could be on the horizon, and it doesn't look pretty.
>>66074191
Luckily libcucks are limp-wristed faggots who can't fight, and blacks are too fucking retarded and disorganized to do anything but just chimp out and do more harm to themselves than anything.
If there *were* a theoretical civil war, it'd be a slaughter. And then foreign interests would come in and slaughter us anyway
>>66071962
If Hillary is arrested Bernie might actually win against Cruz. Once the general starts and people look at actual policy they will see that Cruz is way more conservative and crazy than Trump, even if he doesn't speak like it. Democrats will turn out in droves to vote against him, and fewer democrats or moderates will vote for Cruz than would vote for Trump. If Trump loses the nomination because of a brokered convention we are looking at a Bernie Sanders presidency.
>>66071962
waifus become real
we colonize mars
>>66071962
you white racists are so inferior that you have to photoshop a black guy to be white with a trump face
>>66074341
Except the "libcucks" are the ones who back the establishment, which has all the army and the superior weaponry.
The Oregon faggots are best example of what right-wingers are actually capable of doing.
>>66071962
50% or less, loses nomination = no civil war
51% or more, loses nomination = civil war
i get tired of repeating myself, but this is the case.
hint: google difference between majority and supermajority
I don't know but I do know if the Republican Party does it they're committing suicide and will never win another election
>>66071962
Trump voters are pissed off and don't vote for the Republican nominee. Clinton wins the general election.
>>66071962
At the very least, it's looking like we'll only be stuck with 4 more years of status-quo with Shillary instead of Mr. Socialism trying to Bern the country to the ground.
Vote trump anyway and laugh when Hillary wins.
>>66071962
>If trump loses the nomination because of a brokered convention, what's going to happen?
Then Clinton wins in a landslide, which is a result the GOPe is satisfied with.
"The establishment" runs both parties. They do not care what letter gets printed on their business card. The Jew wins either way.
>>66074354
>He actually still thinks Bernie will get the nomination
Its cute in a pathetic sort of way
>>66071962
They could have gotten rid of Trump a lot earlier than they have. Now they want him gone because he's winning? It's a load of bullshit, the establishment is already 100% behind Trump and he's pulling the strings. Both Hillary and Trump have fed off of negative publicity since day one and the GOP speaking negatively of him only helps in the general election.
>>66071962
Rubio gets the nom, maybe Romney if the GOP goes full meme. Trump either runs as an independent or goes batshit crazy and endorses Hillary. GOP loses the general election either way.
>>66071962
The republicans lose the presidency for another 8 years as the US slowly turns into the next Sweden under Shillary.
>>66072948
this
>>66076786
This. Just look at MSNBC how they're firing almost all their progressive leftist journos and the faggots at Morning Joe who keep shilling and defending Trump. Fox also started to attack Rubio now instead of Trump and even CNN is treating him neutrally and nicer than before.
Only rags like Washington Post or whatever still give a shit about Trump. He's the next president.
If trump loses the nomination Hillary will win. Hillary will not be prosecuted by Obama's FBI or Obama's DOJ. That just isn't going to happen. They are allowing enough so it isn't blatant, but Obama's DOJ is not going to prosecute. Obama is part of the Dem Establishment.. and Hillary is the chosen candidate.
So whats up with the Repubs? Well Trump is not the establishment, not the Dem Establishment, not the Repub Establishment, not the Gov Establishment. He threatens to change things.
Repubs own about 50% of the Gov Business. Trump might destroy Gov Business as usual. A drift away from Ideological purity. No longer Side A or side B, but a more pragmatic approach. The Repub Establishment probably feels that if they prevent Trumps nomination they will suffer greatly, but owning 30 to 40% of a business is better than owning nothing because the business has changed.
>>66073605
Except Ron Paul was just a meme and never actually carried a single state.
>>66071962
Clinton wins easily. Millions of Trump supporters will stay home. That record turnout will fade wothout him, but cuckservatives have their head too far up their own ass to realise it.
>>66071962
>brokered convention
Have you not seen the next states coming up? This is not a possibility, Trump will win it. If Rubio or Jeb was in Trumps place right now they would be calling it a done deal.
>>66071962
President Clinton. Trump voters won't flock to Cruz, they'll be pissed trump was robbed of the nomination, and will either abstain or vote democrat to spite the GOP.
This is what sanders voters will do as well.
>>66076637
>which is a result the GOPe is satisfied with.
>"The establishment" runs both parties.
People on this board don't get this. They're retards.
>>66071962
He will form the Nationalist Party of America and make history by ripping the democratic and republican party in half
If there's a brokered convention just to stop trump. I will never vote for any republican ever again.
>>66076343
The military is full of right leaning Americans. They would not side with the mentally ill left.
>>66072948
/thread
Only a minority of Trump supporters like him more than they hate Clinton.
>>66077303
the military is disciplined and willing to follow orders. So they will side with their bosses who are in the corporate's pockets.
>>66076786
That's the funny part that makes my dick so hard. The establishment COULD'VE stumped trump way early on. All they needed to do was force establishment candidates out early on and have them all rally behind a central figure. At the same time, they needed to stop taking the bait and giving trump tons and tons of coverage for controversy after controversy.
But they couldn't help themselves Controversy makes money and the media couldn't help but cover trump. And all the establishment candidates had so much hubris that none of them were willing to drop out early enough to make an impact. And now it's too fucking late and no matter what the shills do, there's nothing they can do to stop trump.
It's fucking glorious
>>66077303
The american military has been carrying out orders that result in the advancement of the white genocide jewish NWO plan. They will do as they're told by their masters.
Anyone stupid enough to join the military during a time when their government is controlled by hostile forces, is a race traitor.
>>66076343
Tinfoil shit aside, here's the situation.
The Republicans could take this to the convention if Trump starts faltering, but as of now he's ahead of schedule to win a commanding lead. The Republicans might be cucks, but they're also autistic for their own rules. If Trump wins fair and square (which he's well on his way to doing) they will sit down and take it.
The Republicans are in a really good position here, and it's important to understand why. Basically after the Midterms the Republicans stacked Congress so hard that literally nothing Democrat has any chance of passing without their approval. Furthermore the Census allowed them to gerrymander the living shit out of the entire country, so until the next census they are completely invincible--and if they're still in control then, they can gerrymander it even more.
I am convinced that the Republican plan was to lose this election so that someone comically inept like Bernie Sanders could win, which would allow them to ride a wave of voter discontent to dominate the next Midterms as hard as possible, and effectively end the DNC in Congress.
Then Trump came along and fucking ruined everything by actually being good at his job. The Republicans were caught unprepared, their strategy had been to lose, they hadn't planned for a populist candidate to emerge.
Now if Trump wins and ANYTHING goes wrong, their grip on Congress might slip, ruining what must have been a plan decades in the making to permanently annex the legislative branch.
>>66077469
>>66077376
This is not true at all. The Pentagon got caught doing a study on just this subject, and found that most enlisted men would desert, or even actively defect in the event of a civil war. Many more in the event of a Left-leaning administration starting a civil war.
The officers are cucked, but the troops didn't sign up to oppress their own people, that's why they've been militarizing the police, because cops are more loyal to the purse.
>>66077469
People desert just from fighting their enemies, why do you think they're OK with killing their own people.
>>66077701
>The officers are cucked
Even that's not true. It's just that they aren't going to admit to being willing to not follow orders, because that's a death sentence for an officer and a fantastic way to get laid the fuck off. No non-retarded officer is going to ADMIT to being open to breaking the chain of command.
Meanwhile, grunts can get away with it because they're just lowly grunts and nobody cares because they're not influencing people underneath them
>>66077886
Bingo. A successful officer doesn't have loose lips. The less you say, the better.
Grunts will get drunk and tell you anything and everything.
>trump takes Sanders as VP for third party run to soak up the disenfranchised vote
It'll never happen, but a man can dream.
>>66077701
The problem we may someday have to face is that war is dirty and nobody plays fair. The military is full of men with families, what happens when they're seized by the police? You either have the choice of shooting bob your neighbor and turning in any soldier with rebel ties or your family is executed. The power will lie, cheat, blackmail and betray you to keep control. I think it would be a difficult choice for many desu senpai.
>>66077986
Where do you think secret services stand on a hypothetical civil war? or pentagon? Do you think europe and the rest of the world (except russia maybe) will side with the segregationist right-wing side?
Stop thinking like that. Vote Trump, vote independent. Keep pushing. Find congress people who share trump's ideas and are running in the states. Start thinking bigger or you'll just get smaller and smaller
Trump has a tactical nuke in the form of an independent run if the GOP fucks him over. They cant be dumb enough to try him, can they?
>>66077701
>cops are more loyal to the purse
Possibly. I'll submit that the largest survey of LEOs on the subject that I'm familiar with reported that, for example, a majority of police would side with the people in a case of the government trying to disarm them.
>>66078558
I think they can be.
>>66072948
Except Trump, his career would be pretty much over
>>66078558
GOP has that same tactical nuke.
Many GOP insiders are openly talking about running a 3rd party candidate if Trump wins
>>66078291
Except that they're both wrong on international trade, there's not much of a shared platform for that to actually happen.
>>66078784
A trump nuke is a MIRV with 50 megaton warheads.
The GOP nuke is some North Korean 5 kiloton firecracker. Probably just a shit load of high explosives made to look like atomic weapon.
>>66078704
I seriously doubt not being president would negatively impact Trump's business to any great degree.
>>66077166
I think the people on this board understand this more so than any other place on the internet. What the fuck are you on?
>>66073434
I'm tired of the pandering. We get it. This is a christian nation. I am catholic. I'm tired of evangelicals going nuts over the issue.
>>66073434
Right now it's about neocons and the establishment. Evangelicals are just voting for other options right now and really only play a factor in some states.
>>66077323
Fuck that. If we can't MAGA then we may as well put the nation out of it's misery. I'm voting for Hillary if I can't have Trump.
>>66073605
I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 in the primaries. I've never voted Republican in the general.
There are dozens of us. Dozens!
>>66079060
he burned a lot of bridges with the things he said
IMO and don't call me a shill or anything, I think Trump might have some kind of financial problems with his company which is why he's running seriously and doesn't give a shit about what he says.
I mean, why else not disclose his taxes and say he's been audited by IRS for years and all that crap? Why loan money for his campaign?
So I think his business might not do so well and since he's had his billionaire fun for decades, now he just wants to step up to the next level, personal money be dammed.
>>66077575
Interesting. Any other burger's opinion in this?
>>66077701
>because cops are more loyal to the purse.
Many police have residency requirements. They take their squad cars home, and live elbow-to-elbow with the very same people they'd have to oppress.
They don't muster and then get shipped somewhere else.
They can only oppress so much before their houses go up in flames.
At best, Federal agencies may zoom around and fuck with people, but not local law enforcement.
>>66079306
You have to think this strategically.
On one hand, you have an empty supreme justice seat and maybe another one or two during the next 4 years. As bad as the GOPe or Cruz are, at least they won't put some fucking SJW retarded cretin as a judge. Cruz might even put another Scalia.
On the other hand, another 4 years of Obama-type of administration means that the democrats will be hated EVEN more, and the Trump type of candidate will be even MORE popular. And electing congressmen and mayors and governors will be like Trump, because people are getting fired up. But you need to make sure that they stay fired up whether or not Trump gets nominated/elected.
So the choice is between a slightly tolerable republican win that will let you hang in there, or 4 more years of democrats which could do heavy damage to your country but you can rise again even better afterwards.
Imagine if Trump loses now for some reason and runs again in 4 years, but this time with even bigger immigration problem, an europe devastated by rapefugees and terrorist attacks and a completely dissintegrated middle east and another financial collapse coming from china's scummy stock market. He would get 90% of the votes.
>>66077575
>and if they're still in control then, they can gerrymander it even more.
The interesting thing here is that they don't even need to control the national congress. Redistricting is handled by the state legislatures and its a lot easier for them to rig the local elections and maintain their hold there.
>I am convinced that the Republican plan was to lose this election
This is what I thought was happening in both 2008 and 2012. This way they don't have to take any responsibility for anything that has happened since the middle of Bush's second term. The problem with this is that the country is stagnant and nothing will happen until we either put one party in charge of all of this, or we learn to compromise again.
>>66079384
If he does have such a problem (as Romney has been saying), I'm sure it will come out. I don't think the establishment will leave any arrows in their quiver on this particular quest.
>>66077575
This is a totally valid theory. It's perfectly reason to see this being the truth. The GOP establishment doesn't seem to give a shit about actually doing anything; they just want to hold power for the sake of themselves owning power. They'd gladly sell us out to the dems just so that they can remain as the opposition party, which lets them look like underdogs while getting absolutely nothing done.
