>muh uterus
>>65995221
>muh shitposts
>>65995221
>Implying abortion is a bad thing
>Implying less dindus is a bad thing.
>>65995221
Abortions are good way to reduce crime rate.
>>65995799
Ends justify the means moral banruptcy tier.
>>65995952
>Ends justify the means moral banruptcy tier.
Doing what feels good now leads to ruin later.
Stop thinking like a woman.
>>65995221
Pro life people and anti-drug people are anti-liberty. You heard it here first.
>>65996167
Sorry what you're saying doesnt pass the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness test
>>65995952
>Wanting more dindus
>>>/Sweden/
>>65996051
You're right Abortion feels good to the morally bankrupt and is linked to cancer and infertility later.
>>65996398
>picking a mass of flesh over a grown human being
A fetus isn't alive and can't comprehend anything nor feel pain.
>>65996167
Since when does one have a right to murder?
>>65996424 straw man. Did you read the part where I brought up ends vs means? Sorry not a nihilist killing babies is still wrong even if they statistically grow up to be crap.
>>65996576
No ones picking one or the other also not a a mass of flesh. You can see videos of the unborn trying to fight off abortion tools
>>65996519
>You're right Abortion feels good to the morally bankrupt and is linked to cancer and infertility later.
Do you always talk like a child or is it just a show for the internet?
>>65996998
Nice Ad hominen, you yourself haven't exactly proven your command of the english language though
>>65996800
It's not murder if you're not killing a person. Forcing women to keep kids they didn't ask for or are blue to medically theeaten the life of the mother is also a form of slavery.
>>65997393
Child support is also a form of slavery.
>>65995221
Legalize abortion still
>>65997393
>getting their pussy smashed by fat dick
>didn't ask for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWeMvrNiOM
>>65997393
So are premies who can live outside the womb who could also have been aborted legally not considered people? Can I murder them? And if you say they are how does the status of habitation In a womb change personhood status of two human beings the same exact age and size?
>let's get abortions because children are a burden
>muh hedonist lifestyle
>oops seems that our population is growing older
>opps there aren't enough workers and people to keep our programs running
>lets bus in immigrants from 3rd world countries to take those jobs
>what could go wrong?
>willing wanting to kill your own people and replace them with refugees changing the political landscape and culture
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageing_of_Europe
http://www.ibtimes.com/refugee-crisis-2015-could-syrians-help-europes-aging-population-problem-2091181
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34172729
http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-JRTB-20173
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/asia/1997-05-01/japans-aging-economics
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/02/04/the-countries-that-will-be-most-impacted-by-aging-population/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/19/mass-immigration-proposed-as-solution-to-japans-population-problem/
>>65997393
They don't have to keep it.
And you can kill people who lack the faculties to be a person and it's still murder.
Plus Animal Cruelty is a thing, you need a valid reason to kill a being.
>>65997393
>they didn't ask for
Um...aside from rape, they did definitely ask for it. They took that risk and they lost the draw, they don't get to murder someone because they're unlucky.
>>65997737
It's like some how does getting ejected from a pussy magically determine whether the same being of the same development level is a person?
>>65995221
>Pregnancy doesn't affect the human body
> a baby inside you is a totally benign thing
High school failed you, OP.
>>65995221
that's not a small person inside some one else, that's a parasite
>>65995221
lets say a stranger gets inside your house
he starts eating your food, using your water and watching your tv
you cant toss him out, after all, it may be your house, but that is that person's body you cant touch it so it must stay inside your house until he decides to leave on his own
>>65997626
You are causing single mom raised children by not legalizing abortions and a serious dysgenics in the human populations because most single mom males are either pussies or thugs these thugs impregnate some slut and this cycle continues.
>>65998072
Tossing out =/= ending their life
>>65998147
Adoption is a thing
>>65995221
If it's their choice then publicly funded birth control shouldn't exist. Not my choice to pay the taxes that pay for it. I'm in NY, abortion capitol of the country despite the overwhelming Catholic presence.
>it's okay for one person to live 100% reliant on another
>welfare isn't okay
10/10
>>65997189
>Nice Ad hominen, you yourself haven't exactly proven your command of the english language though
Learn what ad hominen means first.
I'm not saying the moral character makes your statement wrong, I'm saying you are being intentionally stupid; speaking with the reasoning of a child.
>>65998072
Faulty analogy. Child had no choice in being reliant on its mother.
>>65998032
Genetically it is a human, with its own unique genetic structure. Rationalize it however you must, we all know no woman would ever see you as a fit mating partner anyway.
>>65995221
>this is what americans think a first trimester foetus looks like
>>65998275
Yes lets make unwanted children sufffer as well it is better to kill them than let them live a life of misery.
>>65998341
>implying babies have a parasitic relationship with their mothers
graduate high school before you talk
>>65997863
Blame the banks that have rigged the economic system to require unlimited growth forever, and for the demand for labor and the import of workers.
Abortion keeps the nigger population in check.
>>65995221
>I would rather murder an innocent unborn child than take responsibility for my actions
>>65997393
>they didn't ask for
unless they were held to the ground and raped, they very much did ask for it and acknowledged the potential consequences when they agreed to have sex
>>65998441
You're conceediny that they're children so Yeah let's kill every child who has a miserable life, go head next time you see one go head and kill them, no problem here
>>65998169
this man is so poor and useless that he will freeze and starve to death in the street because he is lazy
tossing him out is ending his life
>>65998400
you left your door open and the man was desperate to survive
>>65998704
Look anon kids are money and their existence becomes a giant tumor that prevents their parents or single parents from amassing any wealth creating an endless chain of poverty so abortion would reduce poverty rates across the planet if it was legalized.
>>65998441
>it's better to kill a child than let them grow up in a bad environment
says fucking who?
>>65998945
>says fucking who?
People that care about things larger than muh feels?
>>65995507
>>65995799
>>65996051
>>65996424
the reason why dindus are shit is because we have abortion and welfare. niggers are created at single mother houses supported by big daddy govt, not by loving families with fathers at home
>>65998945
Prevents future criminals and kids that are raised by single parents have mental issues anyway.
>>65999016
you know what is also a bad environment? being in fucking prison for murdering someone. If you fuck and get pregnant you have to face the consequences for your actions. The reason why people are so fucked up is because there is no more accountability anymore
prove me wrong you teenager faggot
>>65999018
Making abortion illegal isn't going to turn niggers into humans.
>>65999016
>>65999034
the child, no matter what, will always be the most innocent party in this situation
if you fix the family unit (i.e by not incentivizing single mothers), you fix the entire problem without having to murder the innocent party
you drawing the line of accountability at the child instead of the mother is pretty funny though
>>65998412
If it doesn't have brain activity, then it's not. You take that parasite out and it will never develop.
>>65999139
>making people responsible for their actions are not going to make them responsible people
how stupid are you?
>>65999374
there are humans that are born without brains and are alive you are wrong. besides who says "brain activity" is what makes you human you piece of gipsy filth
>>65999132
>If you fuck and get pregnant you have to face the consequences for your actions.
Yes lets use children as punishment for parents, learn a life lesson by forcing them to raise a child. That's a loving environment to grow up in.
>you know what is also a bad environment? being in fucking prison for murdering someone.
That's sorta a non sequitur, but technically true.
>The reason why people are so fucked up is because there is no more accountability anymore
The reason why people are so fucked up is because people collectively are terrible and always have been.
>>65999374
last I checked, murdering an adult human vegetable is still murder
>>65999530
lol, got any sources on that?
>>65999632
Even those in vegetable state, still have brain activity.
>>65999576
The punishment doesn't stand alone, it's that they deserve the punishment more than their supposed freedom
>>65999739
>still have brain activity
So does an unborn that has the capacity to actively resist abortion tools attacking it while it's still in the womb.
>>65999576
>buah people are terrible
>Yes lets use children as punishment for parents
Children are a blessing not a punishment, those are your words. it is a life lesson to fucking have to raise a child. I met plenty of people that their lives were a total mess and get their shit together when they have a child. Also how is it better to kill someone than letting him live. Its better for the irresponsible parents, not for the baby, so stop pretending you care about the baby's welfare.
you dumbass, people that are "terrible" are those that get away with their shit without consequences
you are a waste of time
I would take it a step further and legalize euthanasia on the newly born child for the first few days or so. Raising a child with defects is a burden for the child, parents and the whole society.
>>65999316
You seem to imply that unborn, or newly born children have any real value that we should care about.
>without having to murder the innocent party
I don't buy the quantity argument to human value. 10 African babies don't have the same value as a white European baby.
A 5 year old child has more value than unborn twins.
>>65999448
Wouldn't it make sense to end the incentives first to restore family structure? Even then their IQ won't go up significantly.
>>65999646
educate yourself you ignorant peasant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly
>>65999448
>how stupid are you?
Using a child as punishment for the actions of the parents isn't going to turn out poorly for the child and parents.
>>65999912
No, those parasites don't have brain activity till late in the pregnancy.
>>65999576
>Yes lets use children as punishment for parents, learn a life lesson by forcing them to raise a child.
They consent to the possibility of a child when they have sex. It's that simple. How they choose to view the child (i.e as a punishment) is irrelevant. They have already accepted it as a responsibility. To deny that responsibility that they created, is to punish the child which happens to be the most innocent party.
>>66000019
so you just don't differentiate
if a newly born and an unborn held the same value, you would be okay killing both of them?
>>66000058
> Anencephaly is the absence of a major portion of the brain
> With very few exceptions,[5][6] infants with this disorder do not survive longer than a few hours or possibly days after their birth.
And the link for those "exceptions" are dead => no credability
>>66000057
what's this obsession with IQ? whites born into dysfunctional families are as fucked as blacks or hispanics or anyone else. Its just manifested in different ways. A black person has the chance to be a humble blue collar worker or being a nigger. A white person has the chance to be a professional with a loving family, or a self absorbed beta cunt that votes for his own destruction. Or being a kike that has no empathy to the goyim when bidding against regular americans that got loans for houses in 07
>>65999316
>if you fix the family unit (i.e by not incentivizing single mothers), you fix the entire problem without having to murder the innocent party
Anon get laid and realize human women cannot act rationally no matter what you do, single moms have been a staple in humans since the dawn of our species. Abortion will stop the problems single motherhood causes.
>>65998585
When have Americans ever had a problem killing kids?
>>66000072
>muh kids is a punishment meme
because you are brainwashed to think your own offspring is some sort of punishment
>>65999920
>Children are a blessing not a punishment
When you use the child as a punishment for the actions of the parent they are a punishment by definition.
Also, who blessed what?
>Also how is it better to kill someone than letting him live.
Factored economic development, 5 years of economic growth and stability for the parents can often create a far better base for children to be raised from. Babies from the same parents are fungible within a set range of years. (genetic degradation of women being the difference).
>>65996576
Why does it have to be one or the other? Do all women die after giving birth?
>>66000404
the point remains that those babies are still human. As i said again, this "brain activity" bullshit is completely meaningless. its a term you got from medical dramas, not from real life.
>>65999018
Their dindu fathers are in prison... where they belong. It's just that sheboons should be forced to abort every dindu and sterilized.
>>66000323
>if a newly born and an unborn held the same value, you would be okay killing both of them?
I'd be fine with the parents killing them for a huge range of reasons, including but not limited to economic factors (although really you birthed a child rather than aborting it months ago?), genetic defects, crippling illness.
>muh rights
>muh parasite
Fuck, you lolbertarian fuckwits need to put the Rothbard and Rand down for a minute and learn some basic human decency.
Abortion is for liberal degenerates.
>>66000762
No, they are parasites with no real chance at survival if taken out of the womb.
>>66000560
>single moms have been a staple in humans since the dawn of our species
Maybe from war in which much of the male population dies off, otherwise, no, you're completely wrong. But even in such a case, polygamy takes hold temporarily while the population normalizes.
The sexual freedom and power women hold today is directly comparable to the power they had during the fall of Rome. It isn't normal. It is a symptom decadency and a falling empire.
>>66000762
>As i said again, this "brain activity" bullshit is completely meaningless. its a term you got from medical dramas, not from real life.
Are you fucking retarded?
>>65998275
Except as it is right now it is really expensive to adopt newborns like 10 - 20k. If pro life people really cared they would be funding programs to find REAL homes for these children not just tossing them into the cycle of foster homes for the rest of their childhood
>>65995221
If it is a foreign object inside your body it's fucking requered to REMOVE IT. Are you fucking kidding? Is this even serious argument?
>>66000706
>killing an innocent life is better because muh GDP
kill yourself you Stalinist piece of shit, not everything is about fucking GDP, just look at Germany. your slave mentality is fucking pathetic, you are probably one of those drones that think who you are is defined by your profession
>>66000973
>learn some basic human decency.
But there is only human degeneracy.
>>66000631
>because you are brainwashed to think your own offspring is some sort of punishment
Being unready for children is a body blow to your life and plans.
Call it a flat tire of life.
>>66001033
You live in a fantasy world, alpha males have always been impregnating women that have tried to cuckold men they were around for providing. The single mom is the natural state of the human woman because the human man is not supposed to raise its offspring but carelessly impregnate multiple women until they die. Nature doesnt give a flying fuck about morals.
>>65995221
>your body
>somebody else's body
So fucking what? What right does the state have to force a person to sacrifice personal health and safety for another?
To be pro-life is to say that women are second class citizens to their unborn children and that is not right.
>>66000841
sheboons have all those kids willy nilly because of welfare. there is nothing to lose for them, and lots to gain.
if you remove welfare these bitches would think twice about who they fuck, because if they let any random nigger access to their vagina, and the guy leaves they are stuck with a baby, and little to no help. its common sense
>>66001149
Giving your child the best possible outcome is being a slave to the GDP and not a tactical move to enhance your family.
>>66001242
But you're ready for a flat tire when it happens, typically. Unless you're completely retarded
>>66001308
>The single mom is the natural state of the human woman because the human man is not supposed to raise its offspring but carelessly impregnate multiple women until they die.
Maybe in Africa. Man has been settling down with women for thousands of years.
>>65995221
It's always white, asian, and jewish women that protest this shit. Why?
>>66001029
why would they be taken out of the womb? if i take your gypsy ass with no shelter in the middle of a snowstorm you are going to fucking die.
and if i ever do that to you i would be rightfully acussed of murder
>>66001308
it sounds more like you're the one disenfranchised with the state of modern society and act as if there has never been moral order
>>66001451
>But you're ready for a flat tire when it happens, typically. Unless you're completely retarded
And the types of people that have unwanted pregnancies are well know for their planning skills and intelligent choices.
>>65999922
I say first two years.
>>66001510
>why would they be taken out of the womb?
Because they are having an unwanted negative effect on the body of the women.
It's her body so she has the right to eject the baby, and that baby can live and develop on it's own.
Or so would go the argument if you want to claim that a baby is it's own body and a women can't abort it because of that.
>>66000631
>because you are brainwashed to think your own offspring is some sort of punishment
Because of unwanted children your career plans can crash and you became permanent McWorker and your child will have shitty childhood in poverty.
>>66001591
Anon, there's a pretty good chance that you weren't planned. Especially if you're the oldest.
>>66001242
and who's fault is if that happens? yours, and its also YOUR FAULT if your child is fucked up. YOU have a responsibility to your wife and to your offspring to get your shit together and raise that child that you engender. stop enabling cowards you faggot
>>66001497
Because first world women have been told their whole lives that they are special.
>>66001510
because i'm a human being with brain activity, which is not a "medical drama" term, you fucking retard redneck
>>66001570
Only men have morals, women dont women ideal world is one where they are raped by alpha males and treated like complete shit. Look at what you cucks have done the white women are reverting back to what they were mindless hypergamous sluts. In the past the aggressive violent low inhition criminal spawn of human women were great in the wild but they are criminals in the modern world and must be stopped so ALLOW THEM TO ABORT THEM.
>>66000915
>>66001242
>>66001399
This fucking leaf is trying to Aussie post.
>>65995221
>introduce a bill to make abortion clinics safer and not horror houses like Gosnell
>OMG!! they trying to stop all abortions.
Fucking liberals.
>>66001399
>best possible outcome
you mean in the corporate ladder. put him through the indoctrination system, putting them through all the shit of this world because "MUH GDP", "MUH BOTTOM LINE". there is more to life than financial security you maggot. but i dont expect such thing from someone that thinks its ok to kill innocents for the sake of financial security
>>66001801
Responsibility is muh feels nonsense to guilt people into doing things they really wouldnt give a shit about.
>>66001930
Why the fuck is Bahaman posting on /pol/?
>>66001497
because those are the ones that were brainwashed into thinking college education is the holy grail of knowledge
>>66001801
Or you can just abort the unwanted child and have one in the future when you have a more stable base to raise your family from.
I'd call that "having a full sized' spare solution to the unwanted baby flat tire of life.
You could put on the mini spare and drive away at 80% of your max speed, or walk to buy a new tire, or see how far you can get on a rim. But I'm going to put on a new tire, throw the old one in the trash and keep going at full speed.
What went wrong, /pol/?
>>65995221
If you're against abortions you're for niggers, unless you are also implementing ridig requirements and limitations for welfare recipients
>>66001930
anyone can revert to anything when they live like savages
in the model of just about any classical civilization, the women holds little power but it also protected and kept chaste
what you see today is the fruit of pure hedonism
>>66001767
you are already a mcworker faggot
>>66001322
No prolifer fags can refute this.
>>66002024
No I mean living in a nice(er) part of town without niggers and natives, so your child can go to a school without ghetto trash. So you can have a leveraged situation for money so you can pay for education, holidays, after school activities.
Having more money to work with is in direct relation to the quality of life for people. Those first years of economic activity can be the most important in a life, if you play it smart. An unwanted child is a huge negative to that.
Removing the option to abort a child isn't an option the benefits the family or society.
>>66002434
No its the fruit of european men taking that I LOVE YOU HONEY bullshit too far and giving their women power in society.
>>65999374
A human heart starts beating at 7 weeks gestation, the circulatory system is controlled by the fetus' brain. Cell division/development alone is brain activity. That's basic gestational biology....
>>66002642
I already did
>>66000128
>>65999316
The child isn't some kind of magical anomaly that appears inside the women unprompted so your argument doesn't hold.
>>66001322
>implying medical abortions are healthy or safe.
>>66002321
that's a straw man
>>66002878
> Cell division/development alone is brain activity
no, it's not
>>66003043
it will produce less damage than rasing an unwanted kid
>>66002042
if you are not responsible then you have no freedom. but i dont expect a banana nigger to know this
>>66002236
you cannot murder anyone just because they MIGHT be an inconvenience to your financial matters, that is not even an option. if you think its totally ok to be in society were murdering innocent people is OK, then you are part of the problem, then again you are canadian so you are already there
>>66003247
its your fault if you fucked up your kid. and also why dont you give a chance for the child to live? just because the risk that he MIGHT be born into a family with financial difficulties? grow up
>>66000490
No, blacks always have worse IQ, even in good households they have worse IQ than whites.
>>65996800
You have the right to murder someone who is literally living inside your body.
>>66003736
>you cannot murder anyone just because they MIGHT be an inconvenience to your financial matters, that is not even an option.
Actually it is.
Also I know your shift key works so please use it correctly from now on.
>>66002902
Abortion is inherently selfish, anyone who denies this is either ill-informed or fooling themselves. However, selfishness does not mean immoral. The woman has no obligation to the child. You cannot equate sex with the agreeing to bear and birth a child.
>>66005290
Explain why, people are aware that sex brings on children. Child had no choice whether it existed but parents did, why should the innocent party who existed by no choice of its own be murdered ( and you have conceded its murder) to spare the inconieance of others who were aware
>>66005290
Sorry someone else conceded it was murder not you my mistake
>>65996051
Man, it must suck to live in Canada.
>no freedom of speech
>no freedom of religion
>womyn can kill you until the second before you're born
>criticizing homosexual lifestyles is a hate crime
>criticizing feminism is a hate crime
>reading the bible is a hate crime
>government-enforced preferential treatment for women and minorities
>if white men complain, the government tells them to check their cis privilege
It's like Tumblr: The Country
^^
>>65998304
The femz come rolling in.. ?
The fuck do you want from this board?
You won't get it. . None of your type are capable.
>>66003930
so what? what matters is if they are moral of not, IQ is something they cant control, and not everyone can be the next nicola tesla
Abortion should be extremely last resort, not something you give away so easily.
The truth is women get raped and shouldn't be forced to suffer pregnancy and a child they can't sustain, something must be done to aid them.
>>66005662
>why should the innocent party who existed by no choice of its own be murdered ( and you have conceded its murder) to spare the inconieance of others who were aware
So if a child is to be born with a degenerative condition should it be aborted or born and left to a life of suffering?
>>66003577
You americans are really fucking stupid my god. A person with no responsibilities is literally free by definition.
>>66005290
>muh feels
>>66007279
plenty of people are born into shitty families and they turn out to be alright or even excel, your assumption is wrong.
>>66007542
you are free of what? and to do what exactly? you are a slave to your primordial emotions. your are a slave to MUH FEELS. to what feels right
>>66007609
You didn't answer the question as asked. Please answer the question.
>>66007542
>muh feels
Wait, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?
>>65995221
>choose to fuck around
>claim it wasn't your choice to have a child
Has everyone forgotten basic biology, or are we censored to the point where we can't have "the talk" with our children.
>>66007705
You are free you can do anything you want when you have no responsibilities. Abortion needs to be legalized to end the genetic russian roulette anyway so if my wife is notified our child will have any mental or physical defect we can kill it and I can pump my sperm into her again to make a new one.
>>65995221
>My lungs are not public property
so smoking crack should be legal then right
