Yes, Trump is a socialist. You read it right.
I'm a true Libertarian.
/pol/ seem to love to meme about socialism and Bernie being all about "Taking people's property without permission". At the same time, the brainwashed hivemind that is /pol/ supports a candidate who is as much a socialist as Bernie.
>Immigration
Supports massive federal government control over immigration. That's two fingers to free markets. That's central planning. THAT'S SOCIALIST.
He even wants to build a fucking government wall around the country and enforce it heavily (police state). Does that sound capitalist to you?
>Tax
Wants to tax the rich more. Yeah, nice property theft.
Wants to tax everyone, just like Bernie Sanders. And you still say Trump isn't a socialist?
>Social security
Ah yes, the free market capitalist system of Social Security, which Trump is going to protect.
Trump doesn't give a fuck about free markets and is as socialist as all the other candidates. It's no surprise, given Fred Trump made his fortune thanks to government programs under FDR.
So, /pol, you statist hypocrite fucks. Refute anything I just said.
Protip: You can't.
>>65985017
So? That's why I support him. Cuckservatives and Libertarians can fuck off
>>65985017
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
Now fuck off allah
>>65985233
>https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
>Thinking socialism is defined by what the tax rate is.
Next.
>>65985017
>Supports massive federal government control over immigration. That's two fingers to free markets. That's central planning. THAT'S SOCIALIST.
Number 1 most retarded aspect of libertarianism: have open/uncontrolled borders in a world that is predominately against libertarianism; only see economic side of things, and be completely blind to culture, race, and demography in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e71PhE6bdCo
Fuck your free markets
shoo shoo slimy limey
>>65985017
Libertarianism is fucking retarded
>>65985017
>Supports massive federal government control over immigration. That's two fingers to free markets. That's central planning. THAT'S SOCIALIST.
>He even wants to build a fucking government wall around the country and enforce it heavily (police state). Does that sound capitalist to you?
Fuck off Ahmed. I don't even like Trump but you are retarded.
>>65985017
>libertarian
>UK
must be fun.
>>65985017
Stick that Ayn Rand bullshit book up your ass
>>65985560
This
>TAXING THE RICH = SOCIALISM; GUYS KARL MARX AMIRITE?
Unless donald trump wants to get rid of the private sector and replace it with unions then he is not a socialist. Bernie is not a fucking democratic socialist either is a social cuckhold democrat
I'm a libertarian and I support Trump
>>65985017
keep your bait bite-sized kiddo
Libertarian ideas die with whites. Good luck trying to prevent statism when nonwhites will always side with it.
>>65985918
>Libertarian
>Trump Supporter
Choose only one
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>>65985967
THIS JUST IN
THINGS CAN BE JOKES
NOT EVERYTHING IS AN ATTEMPT TO RUSE YOU!
JOKES!
>>65985573
You're advocating a form of collectivism. Individualist Libertarians like myself judge individuals based on their character. You make blanket statements about other races rather than judging them on individual merit, collective thinking.
Free-market, laissez-faire capitalism is a system that has never actually been realized in the United States of America. It would be a society of freedom, in which the individual has the freedom to make use of his own body, labor, property, wealth and capital as he sees fit. And that applies to all individuals, not just “American citizens,” because all human beings are born with natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It seems /pol/ is full of conservative/fascist sheeple morons who don’t want to believe that such natural rights apply to foreigners.
>>65986048
The problem is that a lot of libertarians actually believe that about borders. So, joke or not, maybe some sap will scroll by and see why nationalism is important.
>>65986048
Read my thread carefully. It's not a joke.
>>65985017
And? If his policies make sense who cares about what label is slapped on him
>>65986166
You are the definition of sheep yourself as you are blindly shilling for policies which would destroy civilisation.
>>65986397
/pol/ are constantly spreading maymays about how they despise socialism and are true free market capitalists, yet are supporting Donald Trump's policies which are far closer to socialism.
>>65985895
Donald believes in publically funded military he is a socialist
>errrrrr Karl MARX WAS A SOCIALISTTTTT
No he was a communist
>>65985017
>Immigration
Limiting immigration is necessary to preserve the nation. Look at how well open borders is doing for the European economies.
>tax
Trump does support a progressive taxation scheme that reduces taxes across the board while granting businesses significant advantages. Trump's plan allows more economic liberty for the common American as taxes are lowered for the working class.
>Social security
Every American politician in office, even Reagan, has continued social security.
>>65986047
>trump supporter
> not lelbertarian
pick one only one.
Trump is Third Position
Deal with it.
>>65985017
How's the queen blimey
>>65986499
I think you are misunderstanding the term socialism and statism
>>65986166
>Individualist Libertarians like myself judge individuals based on their character.
That makes you a starry-eyed idealist because group patterns exist in the real world.
>You make blanket statements about other races rather than judging them on individual merit, collective thinking.
Nope, I make judgements based on what the evidence says and without committing the ecological or exception fallacies.
Just watch Molyneux's video and see why you're stuck in ultra-deductive reasoning.
>>65985017
/pol/ isnt libertarian. /pol/ is 3 things:
1) reactionary
2) predominantly underage
3) never correct
>>65986472
In what way exactly?
/pol/'s characiture of foreigners would not survive in a libertarian minarchist society. Laziness would let you fall to the bottom.
If you want to restrict immigration in a free market society, it's because you're insecure and worried that foreigners are better workers than you, in which case you deserve it.
>>65986832
I don't want to compete with Chinese sweatshop workers and have my wages driven into oblivion and neither do most people.
>>65985017
>Trump is a socialist.
Yeah, a National Socialist.
Why do you think /pol/ likes him so much?
Heil Drumpf
>>65986958
Then you're a lazy piece of shit and don't deserve to talk about other races being "gibsmedats" and "dindus"
>>65986832
>If you want to restrict immigration in a free market society, it's because you're insecure and worried that foreigners are better workers than you, in which case you deserve it.
a state exists to protect its citizens, not to fuck them over with immigrants, no matter how much better they might be
>>65987081
Nah, I just don't want to live like a third world person or have to live with the wages of one. Which is why nobody who lives in the real world is a libertarian because we all see what your policies would create.
>>65985017
>massive federal government control over immigration
You wouldn't know this since you live in a Caliphate and all, but that's not massive control that's called actually taking care of your border
>>65985560
That's literally what 90% of socialism is
It's times like these I wish I could be a mod just so I could banhammer shitposting like this
>I'm a true Libertarian.
Lol, cuck.
>>65987155
You're equating immigration with direct harm to citizens. That wouldn't be the case, unless of course the immigrants are better workers.
>>65987219
Essentially you believe you have more rights, based on your area of birth.
>>65987501
Your statement is meaningless. I could also say providing healthcare is called actually taking care of your citizens. Both are costly state-impingements on free markets.
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>>65987774
>Restricting opinions you disagree with.
The statist brainwashing has worked on you it seems. A true individualist thinker like myself would never want to restrict another's freedom of speech.
Socialism is primarily a system of government. Tax rates are merely a method of raising funds for government projects.
>>65987966
>You're equating immigration with direct harm to citizens. That wouldn't be the case, unless of course the immigrants are better workers.
immigrants from the third world are used to much lower standards and work for much less money, thus lowering wages for the local population.
The one who suffer the most from this are the lower classes.
Moreover, even if immigrants were better workers than natives, this doesn't change the point.
A state has the duty to protect its citizens first and foremost
>>65985017
Trump, like most politicians and Americans in general, is a Welfare-Capitalist. Sanders was the only legitimate Socialist.
Libertarianism is a Jewish ideology. Shed yourself of your edgy teenage Ayn Rand-esque angst and join the one true path of the almighty God Emperor.
>>65985017
Who gives a fuck about your utopian anarchistic dreams. Trump says he's common sense and that already makes him a radical. What?! Open borders is worng? Selling out the country for cheap labor throug immigration and outsourcing, too? Fucking statist, socialist scum.
>>65988387
Sanders doesn't want the means of production to be state owned, so not really. He just has a stronger aspect of socialism than most candidates.
>>65985017
Even Mussolini was. So what?
So lots of people are scared of trump storing up nationalist ideas, and OP says he's a socialist so...we /natsoc/ now?
