Or maybe you enjoy getting up at 6:30 and making money for Mr. Sheckelstein. After all that Ramen you live off of to pay off that college debt won't pay for itself. Also gotta pay that 3,000 dollars in rent to Mr. Silverberg so he can sit on his ass all day and not work. After all it's capitalism. You owe him your money. Be lucky he doesn't demand your sister you poor cuck.
You're right. Pol cannot recognize this. They will fight till death for the right to be a wage slave
>if everyone can't be rich let's just have everyone be poor
Everyone can just be given millions in welfare and nobody will have to work :)
>>65817467
But if everyone's poor who's gonna pay Mr. Silverberg? It's better to pay for his daughter's wedding than have kids yourself you silly cuck. Better for his rich son Schlomo to get the girls who reject you for not making money.
>>65817097
THIS.
For some reason /pol/ identfies with the Boss calling the shots (and fucking his workforce).
They hate to admit, they are the plebs.
>>65817732
Especially not Mr. Sheckelberg! Better he have money to invest on Wall St. than you have medical care you ungrateful cuckstain! Better he decide how society is run than you. Just keep getting up early and pay that rent on time or else. Maybe we'll do something about that bad lung you've got. Can't have the rich customers disturbed by you coughing.
>>65817763
>ha you think you're life is good, but someone has it better than you so your life is bad
smelly dumb marxist scum
that pic is factually incorrect since you can not opt out from the govt but you can opt out from a corporation.
>leftists
>political philosophy 101
>>65817097
Son, I AM Mr. Sheckelstein.
>can chose where to work
>can chose what to do
>can leave any time
>slave
Meanwhile socialist government takes my money at gunpoint and socialists want more of it.
Die commiescum
The socialistic shit flinging will be largely irrelevant once technology and automation makes employment for the vast majority obsolete. The future of humanity lines up far more with elevating the population to the level of the bourgeois, in terms of living standards at least, ironically (at least to Marxists) propelled by those evil old capitalists driving progress. This argument will be largely irrelevant once it's not humans cleaning the toilets anymore, at least assuming we manage not to kill each other and some Skynet shit doesn't happen with AI research.
>>65818652
>Meanwhile socialist government takes my money at gunpoint
All money comes from Government, even in Capitalist countries.
>>65817097
>Embrace Socialism Now
I have and its horrible.
All socialism attempts have failed miserably. Capitalism + some socialdemocratic elements like universal healthcare are the way to go. Sorry OP.
Capitalism is a better tool for lifting people out of poverty than socialism ever was or will be.
China is responsible for 100% of people lifted anove poverty in the last few years and it's necause they're finally transitioning to a free market economy.
Resource deficient capitalistic states (e.g. singapore) still perform way better than resource abundant socialist states (e.g. Venezuela) with even the lower classes of singapore enjoying an overall better quality of life than most people in venezuela.
Socialism has you wait in huge lines for your government handouts of toilet roll rations that they struggle to keep a supply of. Capitalism delivers your loo roll to your door at your convenience.
>>65817097
Kys, cuck
>>65818652
>>65818919
incorrect, money predates the State.
If you abolished money tomorrow (as an-synds want to), people would use ferret furs or some other shit as currency, independent of the State.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money#Emergence_of_money
>>65818919
Only when you use fiat money.
>>65817097
The wealth was as unevenly disturbed in 1929 as it is now and it was fixed with less social programs than we have now
>>65817763
>thinking girls don't want you just because you don't have money when they've literally never valued money less
Leftist cucks in general
>>65817097
/pol/acks indetify themselves with the boos with whip but they're the nigger getting ordes from Mr. Goldberg
>>65819016
> socialdemocratic
go get killed Pedro Sanchez
Fuck you, lazy commie scum.
I started with nothing and made something of myself. I have no sympathy for your gay failures and I hope the entire state of New York feels the same.
>>65819034
>and it's necause they're finally transitioning to a free market economy
No they're not, no industrialized capitalist state ever has or ever will practice anything resembling a free market. China is an authoritarian state-capitalist society, which is where we'll all headed. Capitalists have been trying to break free from the small shreds of democracy we have in the West for years.
>>65819176
>incorrect, money predates the State.
Look at the money in you pokcet.
Now tell me where it comes from.
>>65817097
I like how your arguements only hold any truth for people with no drive, no ambition, no marketable talent, no education, or a liberal arts education.
Enjoy being a loser, loser.
>>65819845
Fine mr. Pedantic, money as a concept predates the state.
If you got rid of the state and tried to abolish money it would fail because people would just settle on something easily tradeable to represent an items value.
>>65817097
Whether you are a Marxist or a capitalist, you are merely accepting the lie that the economy is our destiny. Either way you're a degenerate who needs to uphold a higher set of values than the merely economic.
>>65819951
Government stardardized money. They monopolized it, although they allow private banks to create cedit (virtual money).
In the absence of Government people still create abstractions of value.
>>65817097
>you hate nerve gas
>Yet have no problem with oxygen gas. Wow you sure are a hypocrite!
The only way to be a communist in this day and age is to have never read das kaput all or the communist manifesto
>>65818652
thats like a muslim using atheistic arguments against a christian
it does not work unless your anarchist, the argument itself makes every form of government slavery
which im fne with, but you dont seem to be
/pol/ hates consistancy
>>65820208
Kapital is a big chunk of text, it's intimidating for most people. I wouldn't expect most left wing types to have even opened it.
It's not a corner stone of "Communism", it's an analysis of the Capitalist mode of production. It's also unfinished.
>>65820427
inb4 >you're
you're*
>>65820073
>t. national socialist who doesn't understand national socialism
>>65817097
I actually have a problem with both.
>>65820208
>das kaput all
If this was a typo, it was a excellent one.
>>65820561
Indeed.
Das Kapital is the critique of a mode of production that will tear itself apart.
The only thing that holds Capitalism together is the State.
