I'm a 19 y/o Black guy (American), can you help this outsider looking in understand your positions? Not that I can't understand being an extremely conservative person (politically, socially, economically, etc). But I can come up with (what I consider to be) logical conclusions all day, and be 110% wrong. Not looking to change opinions, only to better understand other humans.
>>65711973
Here you go.
>>65711973
Which positions would you like help understanding, darkfriend?
Being black, you and I can see how things are from an outside standpoint and watch as Europe destroys itself in the name of tolerance. The irony is they did it to the native Americans, and now happily lead themselves to the slaughter.
>>65712031
>>65712031
Any/all.
>>65712189
Feel free to specify or just pick one at random. I'm not going to spaghetti my entire worldview for you, page after page. :)
>>65712140
native americans? europe? what?
europe has been through the biggest wars in history, and you think this now will defeat them?
>>65711973
Most /pol/ doesn't have what you're looking for.
First of all, I'm a national socialist; I didn't come to this conclusion because of /pol/; it's a position I identify as, because, on my journey to knowledge, it's the best I could come up with.
National socialism is not just a white man's political ideology, it's a black man's as well; it's a human ideology; it's a primal instinctive ideology.
The BLM movement actually strengthens my position, because they see problems through the lens of Black people; that's not something that I, a white man, can understand. Black people are their own community, and it's not because of "skin color"; it's because of race; we recognize race, and we tend to flock towards those who are like ourselves; this isn't just human nature; this is animal nature. Similarity, or likeness, is one of the 3 tenets of my moral code.
the other 2, Empathy and communication, are also innate animal instincts.
On Empathy, I think there's no one else who can understand what a black man goes through than another black man, and it's the same with white men. Empathy is a reflection of ones own personal needs and desires in the perception of other people; and empathy goes hand in hand with likeness, because it paints a clearer picture of how others feel when people are similar.
And thirdly, Communication, the last of the three tenets of my morality. Communication is important; whether you're a cat, a dog, a human, a pig, etc; all mammals have innate communication skills, ranging from body language, spoken language, gestures, etc; communication strengthens relationships; and likewise, likeness, empathy, and communication go hand in hand as well; because you can be empathic towards someone you are like, but to express that empathy, you'd need communication.
So this whole "racial divide" thing is necessary, and there are parts of the BLM I like (as a nationalist), and some I don't like.
>>65712140
I'm assuming you're talking about the current refugee crisis? If you want my honest opinion, all of Europe is to be fine. This is the same continent, the same people who have survived and thrived during and after the worst wars and atrocities this world has ever seen. The Eastern Front of WWII alone is the biggest war humans have ever fought.
Europe's gonna survive to random brown people. Do I think they could and should be harder on refugees? Of course, these people are from the most conservative and totalitarian places on Earth, and their holy book is the most conservative thing ever. They only understand iron-fisted rule.
Their kids on the other hand will be an entirely different story. They will be Ferman, or French, and those who put their faith over their nationality will likely run back to the desert or stay and face the consequences of extremism.
>>65712393
OK, then religiosity. Because I'm really into Pagan (the whole umbrella) faiths and spiritual practices, and New Age spirituality. I'm somewhat atheistic though, and find it hard to understand religious people as a whole, let alone the more fascistic religious folk.
>>65712886
What are you even trying to say here?
>I'm pagan but I don't support any specific God because I'm atheist
Do you even know what those words mean, senpai?
You can't be a pagan atheist. Nor can you be a spiritual atheist. Either you're an atheist and there is no god, or you're an agnostic with the possibility of there being a God and thus you can be pagan.
What does spirituality mean? You believe in ghosts? Karma?
>>65712886
I am also confused by this
Also hello fellow blackanon
>>65712678
OP here
Entirely understandable. I'm (and I feel like this is many younger people such as myself) different, in that I just like people. Couldn't care less about race or skin color. I hope one day we can even move beyond the love of our man-made borders...one day.
But I digress, I love people, good people. Don't care about religion, nationality, anything like that. Are you human? Are you a decent-good person? Then I like you and want to help you in anyway I can.
But maybe I'm just weird like that.
>>65712886
Well, this should be interesting.
My feeling is that /pol/ is mostly Christian or atheist. I'm neither. My religious beliefs revolve around honoring my ancestors, including our gods. A relatively small number of my ancestors are Christians, and I still honor them, but not their god. This would generally be termed "pagan" by many people, but I don't self-identify as a pagan, and I certainly don't believe there's any valid big-P "Paganism."
I don't necessarily see any conflict between fascism and religion. Obviously, fascists will explain how the two are complementary, and anti-fascists will explain how the two are exclusive, but that kind of thing can happen in any group of believers regarding any political ideology.
To be honest, I'm only as religious as I am because of religious experiences, so it doesn't bother me if people are less religious, and I don't understand the concept of "shopping" for a religion. You either have reason to believe something or you don't.
No idea if any of that addressed anything you're interested in discussing. Feel free to ask questions or steer the conversation.
>>65713153
I didn't say I was a Pagan, I said I was "really into" Paganism. I'm also into Buddhism, I'm no Buddhist. I'm into New Age Spirituality, I don't call myself a "Star Child" or think cool looking rocks can heal me.
I'm more of a Pantheist than anything. But I identify as none of these things. I feel no need to.
>>65713635
What exactly is new age spirituality? That's what I'm wondering.
It doesn't make sense to say "I'm really into paganism and Buddhism" without defining what about those beliefs draws you to them.
If you said, "I'm really into Catholicism but I'm not catholic" it wouldn't tell anybody about what you actually believe in.
OP, you're too young and/or naive to understand how the world works. You have to realize what a wreck the current state of the world is, and why the jews are doing it to us.
This thread should die.
>Europe's gonna survive to random brown people. Do I think they could and should be harder on refugees? Of course, these people are from the most conservative and totalitarian places on Earth, and their holy book is the most conservative thing ever. They only understand iron-fisted rule.
>>65712700
The most conservative book ever? Who told you that
>>65713790
I'd say you're far too naive to understand the world, much like OP.
>muh duindu nottin
>>65713347
Your an idealist....it isn't wrong to have an idealistic world view but just make sure you don't blind yourself to the hard truths of the world, fight for an ideal world but also live and understand the world we currently live in.
>>65712620
>europe has been through the biggest wars in history, and you think this now will defeat them?
Europe has already decided it doesn't deserve nice things.
The current invasion of muslims; the current "war" has been over before it even started.
There will be no "defeat" just a permanent shift.
You saw the video, right?
The border being physically destroyed and not a single shot fired.
The choice of resignation has been made decades ago.
>>65712872
>all of Europe is to be fine
>Europe's gonna survive to random brown people
Nice try Proxy Ivan. They don't have any niggers in Moscow unless they're in a zoo.
>>65711973
Black people are a net loss to society. It was a massive mistake to enslave them. Black societies are shit because genetically blacks are incapable of producing advanced economies. There are studies that show blacks have lower IQ than whites across cultural / socioeconomic boundaries.
I DO NOT judge individual black people on their race, and have black people within my own family that I love and respect, but that's because they work for it and act like normal, decent human beings. Which makes them outliers.
>>65711973
Because blacks literally cause all these problems and then chimp out.
Im sorry that your black but you should tell your brothers to stop being murdering rapist stealing shit heads
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/jungle-life
>>65713564
>>65713788
Allow me to elaborate. I like the mythology and history of pre-Abrahamic faiths; such as what the ancient Egyptians had, and Norse Mythology, just to give a couple of specific examples.
Characters like Osiris Freya, Santa Muerte (that last one is entirely different, but it certainly speaks to how eclectic I really am about...this).
You could chalk it up to me just really like the aesthetics and symbolism, and you wouldn't be entirely wrong.
If you had to identify me with any "ism", I suppose Agnosticism would be the most fitting.
Except when a group of people who happen to be religious do something like kill people or try to limit other freedoms, then I'm just a militant Atheist until I calm down...
Not sure if any of this actually helped anybody understand, but if it helps I'm certainly just as confused at times when it comes to religiosity as a whole, let alone my own.
And last but not least, New Age spirituality is an eclectic Spiritual movement that emerged in the West in the 1970's. It typically involves astronomy, recognizing the Earth as a divine entity in and of itself, and much more.
>>65714531
That one Brazil bro is right. Many white western nations will not crumble into anarchy. They will simmer in a Brazil-like state forever.
That's depressing.
>>65713790
How are all peoples of a certain age group not collectively responsible for this? Why just the Jews?
>>65714591
>I DO NOT judge individual black people on their race, and have black people within my own family
Czechbro...Jesus christ.
You are my people. I thought...I-I don't even know what to say.
>>65714634
You sound like the typical college kid, honestly. I don't mean that as any kind of insult. At least you're not a permanent-mode militant atheist.
>>65714016
The Quaran was written by a warlord, is there another book that rivals its innate fascism?
>>65714531
that video is nothing, just some showmanship acting out for all those media people.
the most likely scenario at the moment is the Greeks themselves organized and encouraged this event because they want more money and someone else to clean up their mess.
so your little speech is hereby invalid.
>>65714303
Of course, I consider myself a realist above all else. Do I have dreams for this planet, for our species? Yes. And I want to try and make those dreams a reality one day, but I will never those dreams of unity, coexistence, technological progress, space exploration and colonization, etc-etc blind me from the world as it is today and has it has been in the past.
>>65713635
Buddhism is mistakenly perceived as a religion which is pretty wrong, at least in my opinion. Rather than a religion, its a way of life, a philosophy.
>>65714634
>Except when a group of people who happen to be religious do something like kill people or try to limit other freedoms, then I'm just a militant Atheist until I calm down...
Okay, it makes more sense now.
Just so you know, it's just as bad to adopt atheism reflexively to combat religiosity. I mean, it's not a good reflection of your ideas to go from agnostic to atheist just to oppose somebody else, even if what they are doing is wrong. It's better to oppose them from your own moral framework without adopting the morals of their perceived enemy.
Like, if I didn't like the nazis it wouldn't make sense to adopt Soviet communism because there are other ways to oppose naziism without being a soviet.
Same here, you can oppose what religious people are doing without being an atheist. It cheapens your position to reflexively adopt the ideas of the side you feel opposes your beliefs.
That being said, I hope you have a good day black anon and don't let any niggers bring you down for trying to be successful. Responsibility and morality aren't "white things" to be derided.
I saw all my black friends in high school get brought down by their own and I sincerely hope you can avoid the "crabs in a bucket" mentality of a lot poor blacks.
Keep on keepin on, friendo.
>>65712886
>>65713248
Niggers gtfo
>>65714929
>warlord
>waged war against those who persecuted his followers
>>65714591
Now this is very interesting, if only because I know people like you. Who see Black people as an existential detriment, with the exception of the few "good ones", essentially.
I actually had a white girlfriend once who's dad was very openly racist, I tried to avoid meeting him at all costs, eventually had too. We talked and he essentially came to the conclusion that I was "one of the good ones", didn't approve of me being with his daughter though (when does a father ever really "approve" of his daughter being with someone?).
>>65715137
Same with Taoism and Confucianism, they're basically philosophies, but they're considered religions.
>>65714718
Jews have been wrecking the world since their inception.
google 'jewish expulsions'. they have been kicked out of every single country they move to, because they are dirty, rotten, lying, greedy, warmongering pieces of shit.
>>65715705
>lying, greedy, warmongering
So...humans? That's literally most of human history. Lies, wars, and more lies. Greed for wealth, power.
You're basically against them for being human.
>>65715395
I'm assuming your family is at least middle class. Am I correct?
I was raised with pretty progressive values, taught that all people of all races are fundamentally the same and should be treated as such (and fwiw I'm not white). I never understood why people had such nasty stereotypes about blacks, until I moved to a shitty neighbourhood in college (cheap rent). The majority of the population in the area was black, and frankly they were some of the nastiest people I've met. They won't let you walk through certain paths without trying to intimidate you (interestingly the moment you show a bit of aggression they back off and start getting friendly, but that might just be because I'm 6'3" and fairly built). They play super loud music at odd hours of the night. They openly litter, drink in public and are just an absolute nuisance in general. I come from a somewhat well off upbringing and I was just absolutely blown away by how these people conduct themselves, but suddenly all the hate and judgement I saw directed at blacks made a lot more sense. Later events like Ferguson riots and its aftermath only confirmed my beliefs.
I still think it is a matter of culture, not race. I do have black friends who behave completely normally, no THUG LYFE NIGGA or any of that stuff - but they've all come from stable households that were at least middle class.
So yes, I hate niggers and nigger culture. None of these race issues would exist if you got rid of that
>>65711973
I'm an atheist and libertarian/liberal and yet I agree with /pol/ in a lot of issues. The international media machine is a big lie,everyone is too distracted or too afraid to speak. The truth is spoken only in small communities like this.
>>65716051
white people have empathy and attempt to alleviate suffering and destroy usary
jews are the opposite
>>65715654
Agreed for Confucianism but Taoism has "The Tao", something that "cannot be described". "It cannot be perceived but it can be observed in the things of the world. Although it gives rise to all being, it does not itself have being."
In my opinion, because of this, Taoism moves away from just philosophy like Buddhism and Confucianism and also dwells on spirituality which is the essence of any religion.
>>65715289
>>65714929
Alright buddy you may have fallen off the deep end. It's ok there's still time to come back.
>>65716275
WUZ
>>65716114
I'm somewhere between poor and lower-middle class.
I feel like it's less a "culture" thing now, and more an education thing. I feel like the internet is an intrinsic aspects of my generations and younger's lives.
We've never been able to truly realize just how similar we really are as a species. I know it's hard to see now (especially if you're an older person). But I feel when people my age are older you'll certainly see less of a cultural divide, less abject and willful ignorance, etc.
Certain things will still be, such as fashion. But as things get better, crimes (especially violent crimes) are gonna go down, and North America as a whole's gonna be better for us all.
You see jews run the world (there is jew literally behind everything from 9/11 to crumpets), and they created niggers in order to keep the white man down. The only way to fight back is to elect Trump, he will deport all jews, spics, homosexuals, moldovians and John Oliver, thus making america great again and destroying China, Iran, North Korea, Mongolia, soviet union, russia and MSNBC who are taking our jobs and polluting our water and taking our guns.
What is so hard to understand about this?
>>65716121
I'm a very left libertarian-type of person as well.
I want tax dollars to go to offering citizens things like basic health care, and I want constructive freedom to be expressed to the fullest.
>>65716365
How have I "fallen off the deep end"? How is Islam not very conservative ideologically?
>>65717244
I actually have some interesting thoughts on Trump, or at least thoughts I think are interesting.
Like how he's not all that conservative of a person, certainly not a fascist, the mans been a liberal his whole life, he didn't just wake up one morning and turn conservative.
I think it's sort of brilliant how he's using fascistic people as a means to an end though.
>>65717044
I would tend to agree with you on cultural divide getting better over time, but I think there are some fundamental truths that we're all going to have to accept.
A big one (I think) that gets a lot of people riled up is beauty standards. Different races tend to find different things attractive, and someone who is considered very attractive to most members of some race may be ugly to others. Take asian beauty standards for example - what they call hot guy, we call girly twink. I remember reading about some black guy in NYC who went around hitting asian girls with a metal rod or something because every single one he had approached ever had rejected him but he'd keep seeing a lot of white guys with them.
>>65717044
When a certain culture breeds high crime, single motherhood, and low education, we can assume culture is a big part of that. Try looking up ben sharpido if you truly wana get a sense of things.
>>65718156
Now that's definitely a migrant cultural thing.
I feel like here in the melting pot that is North America as a whole, we all like the same shit, ass, titties, pretty face, etc.
The only divide in terms of "beauty standards" I've ever seen is about weight.
I (like I think most people who are attracted to women) like "thick" women. Not "fat" but well built, meat on the bones (that's such an old person saying). I appreciate and am very attracted to fit, women with toned muscles, with a some body fat.
On the flip-side, there's the people are really into skinny women.
>>65718387
Not sure what you want me to take away from that. I'm not exactly defended any cultures here.
>>65711973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDazIXANnH0
>>65712019
That is pretty terrible.
>>65719228
>Culture is not the issue
>Say black culture is the problem
>"I'm not defending any cultures here"
Lol k
>>65721731
OP here, again.
Maybe you misunderstood my post.
