Can you tell me what was the sin of Sodom, for which God destroyed it?
>>65638732
Ezekiel 16:48-50 New International Version (NIV)
>48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.
>49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
buttsecks / women gaining power
I hope God is paying close attention to Tel Aviv
>>65639126
Very good. /Pol/ obsesses over the weird sex part of it and conveniently forgets that what made God act was that they saw people suffering and did not care to help.
>>65638732
>>65639126
Proverbs 6:16-19
16
There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
>>65639381
>>65639126
A reminder to be humble, and to be your brothers keeper. I was actually just thinking about this early and posting a thread about it.
>>65639381
Well the acts of sexual immorality were also part of it, orgies and homosexuality.
However they were just as important as the other parts that you've pointed out.
>>65639675
>>65639381
thanks for this. i can use this against christians who oppose refugees.
:D
>>65639880
These 'refugees' do not come because of suffering but for material and earthly reasons like commodities and luxury.
Not safety.
>>65639788
>Well the acts of sexual immorality were also part of it, orgies and homosexuality.
None of that is sinister or mean spirited. It was adults blowing free time. God didn't give a shit, it was mentioned in passing, post-judgement for the actual crime of being overfed, fat bellied American TV watchers who don't give a shit if a refugee family's little daughter drowned as they tried to give her a better life in the land of plenty we take for granted.
>>65639880
You'relying since the refugees are not exactly refugees, and you're just trying to cause conflict -- even in your own home. Sad. We're only guilty for what we can control by the way.
>>65640135
>>65640273
prove it. racists.
:)
>>65639880
>hands that shed innocent blood,
>>65640538
>Said the racist
hehe
>>65640143
1 Timothy 1:8-11
>8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
>and immoral men and homosexuals
Nah m8 it's pretty much part of the deal too.
>>65641130
Not so much God cared to lift a finger, except that they were also uncaring towards the needy.
gender supremacy + homosexuality
Who gives a fuck all that god shit is for jewish people.
Hail Loki.
>>65641535
Religion is bullshit, but if your really wanted to you could force some prophecies to come into fruition...
That's the goal of Abrahamic religion. Even atheists are cucked by it, beyond their understanding.
Buttseggs :DDD
>>65638732
no because I am not christian
>>65642139
Then you're probably a decent person who does not need to be specifically told to look after those who are needy before getting worked up about gay sex
Good for you
>>65639126
i remember reading some book (book of enoch i think, but i'm not 100% sure) which mentioned that they also summoned demons and did all manner of stuff with them (including fucking)
>>65641749
never mind the sin of sodom.
what did the gomorrahans do that was so bad?
"holy fucking ghosts I got badly gomorrahed last night!"
>>65642245
Are you perhaps a homosexual.
Is this why you feel compelled to try and dispel any negative remarks about homosexuality?
>>65642245
dude, you should stop with this nonsense
the truest religion is Buddhism. there's a difference between "helping people" and staring at the tv and having the government deal with shit, which is what you're preaching.
>>65642408
Book of Enoch is not considered canonical or part of the Bible.
Though it does speak of that and how the Nephilim and Giants were bred.
>>65642484
No, I'm not gay. You can think so if you like. My interest here really is to promote radical gentleness. I can understand why, in a place like this, that would seem suspicious.
>>65638732
Ahhh yes, the age old bullshit.
>why worry because how big and stuff the universe really is
Because its all we've got. Pride in your people is all you really get. That light years of space and time that perplexes the mind. That's all it will do. Focus on something tangible. Like human advancement. Admittedly, humans are rough clay. Strong, though.
>>65638732
Lack of hospitality.
>>65639526
>Proverbs 6:16-19
>16
>There are six things the Lord hates,
>seven that are detestable to him:
>17
>haughty eyes,
>a lying tongue,
>hands that shed innocent blood,
>18
>a heart that devises wicked schemes,
>feet that are quick to rush into evil,
>19
>a false witness who pours out lies
>and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
That sounds like 90% of christians, hell that is 90% of ALL people.
>>65638732
wasnt it lust? they were too rapie
>>65645025
the good is in all of us.
we choose to ignore it though.
>>65644896
Very good. You're alright.
>>65645025
You too. Now you know how not to be.
>>65645219
>>65644573
disappointments
>>65638732
>>65645371
>disappointments
are you going to say they werent
>>65645303
Because the evil is easier, more rewarding short term
>>65645371
Do you know what you're doing right now?
You're stirring up conflict in the community, and you're deceiving us.
So drop this if you want to practice what you preach because right now, you are a disappointment unto the eyes of God.
>>65645376
That cycle is disrupted somewhat by robotic automation, wouldn't you say?
>People using mythology/theology [incorrectly I might add], to push political programs that never would have passed 60 years ago when the country was infinitely more religious.
Anyone else find it hysterical whenever radical liberals try and pretend they know more about religion than fundamentalists? They do this to Muslims and Christians, so I have to assume its a trend.
>Tell Islamic clerics that jihad isn't Muslim
>Tell Christian pastors that the same Bible that permitted city walls and commerce promotes open borders and socialism. Because as we all know, giving to the poor is the same as the government taking your money and giving it to the poor.
>>65645832
>and you're deceiving us.
How?
>You're stirring up conflict in the community
I'm not simply here to rock the boat if that's what you mean, but to return your attention to where it already should have been.
>>65646044
i bet you are gay or something like that
>>65646044
You're saying that God destroyed Sodom based on lack of friendliness, and you try to drive in the idea that homosexuality or sexual deviancy had nothing to do with it.
Homosexuality and sexual deviancy absolutely have something to do with it, you're deceiving us by diluting that.
You're either misguided or deceitful.
I love gay people and treat them with respect. Same goes for any other type of person. I don't hop on the racism bandwagon on /pol/, but there are some things you need to accept and understand, and try to move past.
>>65643070
>radical gentleness
That plan will fail. Only a limited group would adopt this philosophy at a time. In the grand time table, 'Gentle Folk' get wiped out. You always need societal homogeneous unity to defend your people.
>>65646383
>and you try to drive in the idea that homosexuality or sexual deviancy had nothing to do with it.
No, see: >>65641312
>I love gay people and treat them with respect.
You don't have to. You can dislike them. That's not the point of this. The point is to focus more on the homeless than on what your neighbor does with his dick. When everybody in your city is fed and sheltered, then you can start worrying about sexual morals.
>>65646627
>You can dislike them.
Hate the sin, not the sinner.
>>65646627
but why do you think helping the people in need is a higher priority than teaching about sexual depravation?
>>65646627
Ah, okay, I agree. I'm also extremely poor.
But everyone in my city IS sheltered.
I don't think sitting back and relying on the government to help the less fortunate while also bombing them is what Jesus was asking us to do. I think that's part of the problem you're addressing, actually.
So what's your point here? That we should go out and help the homeless?
Homosexuality
>>65646768
Sure whatever, that's still not the point. The point is that you should concern yourself with people who don't have enough to eat, or shelter from the elements before you get upset about whether they're homos
>>65646977
You can't teach much of anything to a corpse
>>65647092
you can't feed or shelter all the world
>>65647018
>So what's your point here? That we should go out and help the homeless?
That it should be a bigger concern than adults choosing to do ridiculous weird sex shit for their own enjoyment, yes.
>>65647235
Not yet, but soon. Depending on whether the legal framework exists to allow it.
>>65646627
>The point is to focus more on the homeless than on what your neighbor does with his dick.
Homosexuality is an abomination. It is an abomination to God. God did not tell the Israelites to stop abomination only once they were well fed. Their city got blown up because they were homosexuals.
>>65647371
well then why do you worry about that?
teach people to be sexually healthy
don't be fags love your wife etc
>>65647490
>Their city got blown up because they were homosexuals.
No, it was blown up because on top of being gross fags, they also were uncaring towards the needy. That was the main thing, and when you lose sight of that, you lose sight of Godliness and instead get into behavioral litigousness. If that's what Godliness is to you, go study the 613 mitzvot and be an observant Jew.
>>65647246
I agree then. I'm not someone who gets buttflustered over homosexuality, though I'm wary of it and find it a bit corrosive.
But I don't think this is necessarily as much of an issue as you think it is. Some people were and always will be homeless. Sometimes it gets to a point where it's a lifestyle
If you want to actually solve anything, it would take huge social changes, the biggest being treatment of veterans, to get close to solving anything. Throwing money can help in the short term, but it just makes the problem more severe over time.
>>65647533
>well then why do you worry about that?
I worry that who owns the machines will not care about gentleness
>>65647092
People must care for themselves if they are able.
As
>>65647235 says
White christians can not be expected to save the world and be villified at once. All the while able bodied societies wallow in desperation simply because they are waiting to be saved.
>>65647843
>Some people were and always will be homeless.
No, it's not something that just has to be accepted. The housing solution in Utah proves it.
>If you want to actually solve anything, it would take huge social changes,
The main thing in Utah was the unanimous community support from Mormons. We need more people who believe in a higher power, whatever they call it, to remember what's important to it. What we can do that it would be proud of: Shitting on gay people for living their lives, or providing shelter and food to an old woman who would die from starvation or exposure.
>>65648116
Oh you're mormon?
Then you're probably just making up for your closeted homosexuality
I don't understand your logic in connecting x and y. You say since X exists, Y isn't a problem, even though X and Y are completely different things.
It's like if someone shorted your change after buying a coffee and you get upset about it and someone says "remember the 6 million".
>>65648616
No, I'm not a Mormon. This whole Rumplestiltskin shit is really tiresome. Identifying someone's race, religion, etc. is not a substitute for argument.
As for what the rest of you wrote, it all goes into the garbage. Search within yourself for a core of untainted kindness, from when you were a child. That's the spirit you should bring to the world. It's the real you, before the world made you ugly.
That's who I'm speaking to now, when I ask you to focus on what's important. Helping people who are suffering. Scolding perverts in mascot costumes can wait.
>>65648955
People tire of kindness. Never heard the phrase 'biting the hand that feeds you'? It is deeply rooted in real world experience.
You can be as kind as you want but if you are weak, your kindness will be short lived.
>>65649454
Matthew 18:21-22
God expects a lot from us, but the reward will be proportional
>>65649579
Best to stay alive to meet those expectations, eh?
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
>>65650315
Well, sure. I take it not to mean we should make ourselves defenseless, but that even repeated abuses of good will should not stop us from putting it out there. We should be stubborn about it.
>>65639381
Judaism is more closer to what Christianity is than what actual Christians are.
>>65646044
They tried to rape the angels you satanist
>>65651272
Yet God suffered even that, and in the end was only moved to destroy Sodom because, even placing all of its debauchery aside, it was uncharitable.
If you knew the grosses, faggiest tranny but who was nevertheless a charitable, giving, caring person, that is better in God's eyes than a healthy person who stuffs his face and feels nothing when he looks at starving kids
>>65638732
Faggotry. this circle jerk of yours really needs to stop. Sodom was fag central. It was like our day, only fags were allowed to do whatever. Fag parades are some indication of how peverse and unnatural faggotry is. it's a sexual desire that surpasses all others. I pity the faggot, what horrors they must go through, what unnaturalness overwhelms them.
>>65651993
faggotry flies in the face of what God intended for man and woman. It's Satan's way of making light of God's gift to humanity.
>>65639126
>>65638732
and conservatives are more generous than liberals too
they give more to charity, they donate more blood, etc.
also, sodomy is anti-social behavior!
