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Why the fuck should we accommodate them, feed them, respect their culture, for free?

>Europe is not their right
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it's not free
it's gonna cost billions of dollars
is your country taking in migrants too?
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>>65534300
>Why the fuck should we accommodate them, feed them, respect their culture, for free?
You shouldn't. Kick em out already.
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>>65534429
Yes, for now. We also get those rejected by Austria and Germany, but we return them to Croatia.
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>>65534429
http://mobil.derstandard.at/2000022991931/Fluechtlings-Betreuung-wird-in-den-naechsten-vier-Jahren-12-3

>The costs associated with the next four years are estimated at 12.3 billion euros.
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>>65534708
I know, and last thing those guys plan to do, is fair work for a wage. It would be too degrading for them.
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Because then you'll have niggs too, like the cool burgermasters.
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>>65534300
>we

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ8vV9Ii4ms
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About a month ago the EU said they had 10 weeks left to fix the immigration crisis. Two days ago, they said 10 days.

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-migration-system-could-collapse-in-10-days-refugees-political-tension/

3rd March happening confirmed
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>>65534300
Berlin becomes every day more alone in the dark.
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>>65534971

Isn't the weather warming up faster than usual or something? Nice weather will encourage a lot more shitskins to make the trip.
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>>65534970
As they got rejected by AT and GER, they are willing to stay here, you will face the same problem sooner or later
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>>65535150
You're right of course, but unfortunately there are still millions and millions of supporters for Angela "worse than Hitler" Merkel in Germany. I don't know why, but my countrymen, or rather a good load of degenerate Neo-Liberals and women, seem to enjoy beeing buttfucked by muslims.
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>>65535215
Inland Europe always have nice weather from March to September.
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>>65534964
Fellow burger recently suggested we import their nigger lower class so we can abolish German with them instead.

Could someone post the twitter pic with all the nigs posting them moving back to Germany when Trump becomes president?
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>>65535593
Merkel is the Christian light, she will never go out of popularity. Don't wait for elections, just start violent movements, let them be afraid. I doubt peaceful protest and elections will bring anything. Go to parliament, burn it down, do it!
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>>65535593
If this migration flow continues, Europe wide "Hitler" will probably happen soon.
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>>65534708
That's FAR too low! Even the leftist Spiegel estimated the costs at 50 billion already.
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>>65535845
Were you in Naklo, homeloving friend?
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>>65534300
because you're weak and low test, they are high test and will fuck your women.
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>>65535845
If you go down the path of violece, there will be stopping and it will lead to a civil war with the most radical and violent group winning.

Some hooligans trashing places won't change anything, except estrange the middle of society. A conservative, right-wing party which knew what it does would be very sucessfull. Unfortunately the AfD is not this party.
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>>65536206
>I believe if anyone has experience with filthy niggers fucking their women, is that US
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>>65536319
Civil war won't happen just because 100 people decide to torch the parliament, the only thing that will happen is politicians fearing for their lives and discussions happening, rise of anti-migrant politics...etc. Politicians will continue their policies as long as they don't feel the consequences, it's really that simple.
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>>65536319
You bring fear to the politicans and media, if they fear you for going against you will, you win.

go full Kira.
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>>65535845
Burning down the parliament would saolve nothing, heck knowing the german populace it would even backfire and fuel the campagin of the leftist media and the PRO-immigration movements.

There is no future for the current german state. Liberals and leftists have ruined it with their ill-advised politics of the last 25 years. It seriously would've been better if the GDR had taken the Federal Republic over and not vice versa.
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>>65536319
How much potential has PEGIDA for elections?
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>>65536802
that's even better, burn it down, keep burning ti down, conquer the politicans and elites.
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>>65536872
none, since it's not a political party and unfortunately doesnt represend the majority of the german sheep.
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Ruin their own countries with Stone Age level cultures. Immigrate to other countries, bring along their Stone Age culture, and ruin them.
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>>65536802
What do you think CDU thinks about when you peaceful protest on the streets? Do they even bother to turn on television to watch it...even more...do they even air your little peaceful march, why would they care? Look through history, any time back, nothing ever changed through peaceful protesting, not even once. What happens in USA when black people go and torch few streets, during 50ies and nowadays, politics change. You have protests every minute about thousand different things, there are constantly people protesting on streets of New York or near white house, they don't even show that on television, it's unimportant because it isn't violent.
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>>65536802
radicalize the safe control, make them try hard and waste resources to remain in control, make them attack and target your brothers, destabilize and make the public fear the government.
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>>65536872
Absolutely zero. The movement is maximum autism led by a former criminal who was dumb enough to pose as Hitler on facebook. We only sympathize with them because they are basically the only demo we got going. There are others, sometimes better in terms of material, but they don't attract people.

AfD still has the most potentital. But they don't attract the disaffected middle of society enough, especially the ostracized working class in the former social democratic parties and instead aim for a small proportion of far right-wingers who will most probably still vote the NPD.

I hate to say it, but they are no comparison to Front National, let alone Trump. I will vote them, but I don't have many illusions.
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>>65534300
bc their feelings hurt n they r scurred in the ravaged wastelands they come from tnx to teh west raping their lands. ;_;;;; it al the wite mens fault n wee need to make them safer agian
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learn from revolutionaries how to overthrow a government.
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>>65537141
BUT THEY ARE BLACK! Don't you understand the logic of the leftist establishment?

If blacks or mudshits riot: Oh the poor minority is demonstrating its oppresion! We must be ashamed for torturing them so long.

If whites riot: Ew, look at these privileged disgusting right-wing neo-nazi racists! It's like another Shoa again. Or as the TAZ wrote: if you go to Pegida or the AfD you do this in the tradition of the mass murder on the Jews.

Parliamentary gains and slowly but steadily turning the tide are still our better options. Especially when 2/3 of all journalists et al are leftists.
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>>65534300
Because.
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>>65537776
False flag the government to attack and persecute middle/upper middle class families/groups, make them target your neighbors, one neighborhood united in struggle will begin a domino for revolution.
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>>65538027
the most unaffected and well off must be forced into the struggle.
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>>65537141
>nothing ever changed through peaceful protesting
what is gandhi
what is martin jewther king
what is when those strippers in san francisco went on strike to be allowed to unionize
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>>65537776
They have less money in ghetto, they live shittier lives. Merkel looks at you and she sees you have much more rights than refugees, which is true. You seem to be dreaming about them distinguishing between races. You are nothing but economic number and you have it all, there is absolutely no consideration about white Germanic race, you need to snap out of it. You can't win this legally or through compassion, this is a question of German future as white Germanic race. Those leading EU people aren't natives, they are all over the place, mixed, they don't understand anything, they go from one dinner party to another, all connected at top and you moan about left/right and Jews, they just laugh drunk and pull their salary. Same could be said by most people in Germany, they go to work, they mind their own business, they are more afraid losing their job than to think about future or white race, all they care about is right now. Burn some politicians and don't talk so much, hop, hop, do it!
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>>65538143
Gandhi organized marches where many people died when they met. You should look more into history. Question is really what did change in India anyway.
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>>65534300
dont elect liberals, they will literally ruin you country and call you racist while doing it
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>>65535836

Please do this europe, every nigger you import is one less nigger suffering under evil american racism.

Do black lives not matter to you Yurp?
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>>65538783
I know, but lucky for as, their popularity is dropping fast.
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>>65534300
Ok lets go back in time.

1951 Refugee Convention. Why? To defeat communism. How? By stealing their citizens. Commi counties are shit to live in, accept refugees and everyone will run wahy from commi tyranny. Of course they lock their border to prevent this but this a bad too. Hurts propaganda war and basically demands creating schizophrenic world for commi citizens by propaganda. Voluntary insanity is akin to voluntary suicide. This is win-win for West.

Now USSR is dead. But legal and social institutions created to choke out communism remains and now start choking winners. Usual story in history BTW. Build Strong Army to defend against dangerous enemy. Then it demands sacrifices after win, soldiers of war don't want peace they want new wars. In this case it was not army but institutions and world order built to kill communism.
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>>65539487
world order is communist.
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>>65538682
>gandhi wasn't the poster child for nonviolence
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>>65539597
>American education
You are a retard, since Merkel was fighting communism and eventually ended it, she came into power as soon as Berlin wall fell, she is also half-Polish. USA runs Germany and USA conquered Germany after WW2, USA destroyed Berlin wall, USA runs UN that rescues refugees with boats, USA runs NATO, EU has no borders just like USA, since it's basically tries to become USA. It's also Christians who voted for independence from Socialism and it was Christians who voted for entrance into EU. There is literally nothing Communistic here.
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>>65539996
Capitalism is Communism.
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>>65539952
Ironic given that he was an ultranationalist who wanted war with Pakistan.
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>>65539597
They did not prohibit private property and hired labor like Moscow communists did. So no it is not that soviet communism. Yet (maybe).
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>>65539597
Not really, burger.
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>>65539952
Who cares what Ghandi was saying he was. You should also look a little more into Martin Luther king you dumb shill, since it wasn't all that peaceful after that, streets burned.
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>>65540095
>they did not do this
>therefore they are not this
>stalin drank wine
>therefore he's not communist
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>>65540192
both of them are communists.
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>>65540061
>American education
You probably also think political parties are political system, but then you have same easily forged money for 300 years, the only thing you changed is to stick "in god we trust" on money and over courts.
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>>65540290
0/8 at this point m8
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>>65540427
I consider someone communist if they follow communist doctrine and beliefs.

Everything you believe is foreign to me.
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>>65534300
Why is the US government forcing EU countries to take in the refugees that are being pushed out from the war that US started? Obviously the US doesn't care about killing civilians so why are they concerned about finding them a home?
Is this just some tactic where they theorized that there would be less of a rebellion if the men and women who were getting bombed would revolt after the US sets up their own puppet leader?
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>>65534708
>>65535975
That's the amount needed for the 100k in Austria.
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>>65540263
Marx had nothing against wine but he made private property and hired labor taboo. Now try to build modern world without them I dare you.
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>>65540717
You don't even know what Communism means or laws Communist parties enforced. I doubt you even read your own laws.
DDR was first run by pure Socialists, then they joined with Democratic Socialists, after that DDR ended with help of USA. Social Democrats can't create Socialism or Communism, only Communists can create Socialism. All Social Democrats do is try to secure equal rights among different ethnic people and since you have no borders that implies all people. Communists had borders, not a single foreigner was allowed through and there equal rights implies native people organized by race and religion. USA has no organization, you are all over each other, same as Germany. Free trade is impossible in Socialism, which is why China doesn't has it any longer, but they have basic organization between people, while USA has no organization aka segregation.
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>>65540921

>http://belfercenter.hks.harvard.edu/publication/18120/strategic_engineered_migration_as_a_weapon_of_war.html?breadcrumb=%2Fproject%2F46%2Finternational_security
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>>65541012

http://www.curbed.com/2011/3/2/10479912/a-pictorial-tour-of-joseph-stalins-closely-guarded-summer-house

seems awfully odd for a communist to have all of this while the 200 million soviet citizens do not hm..
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Some features: a hand-woven Iranian carpet worth more than $1M, a crystal table set made to resemble the Palace of the Soviets building, and a record player and radio set that was a gift from Winston Churchill.
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>>65541505
Again, socialism has no social policies any "socialist" social policies are Communist in nature, socialism asks for help to the citizens, Communism is a world view.
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>>65541821
Marx and communism had nothing about communal wealth. They had taboo against specific FORMS of wealth.
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>>65542077
Who cares what you read it means. I am talking about how it actually worked. People in USA believe words too much, you should focus on actual laws. You don't even bother reading the difference between neutralized and natural born citizen for your presidential candidate, how can one expect USA to have any fucking borders. All USA cares about is money, any source possible.
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>>65541658
That's just ridiculous.
Why would the US government do that to the countries that already "support" them?
I don't believe that's the reason
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>>65542382
The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx

How "Marxist" Has
the United States
Become?


Although Marx advocated the use of any means, especially including violent revolution, to bring about socialist dictatorship, he suggested ten political goals for developed countries such as the United States. How far has the United States -- traditionally the bastion of freedom, free markets, and private property -- gone down the Marxist road to fulfill these socialist aims? You be the judge. The following are Marx's ten planks from his Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
The courts have interpreted the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868) to give the government far more "eminent domain" power than was originally intended, Under the rubric of "eminent domain" and various zoning regulations, land use regulations by the Bureau of Land Managementproperty taxes, and "environmental" excuses, private property rights have become very diluted and private property in landis, vehicles, and other forms are seized almost every day in this country under the "forfeiture" provisions of the RICO statutes and the so-called War on Drugs..
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
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The 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913 (which some scholars maintain was never properly ratified), and various State income taxes, established this major Marxist coup in the United States many decades ago. These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the American economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Another Marxian attack on private property rights is in the form of Federal & State estate taxes and other inheritance taxes, which have abolished or at least greatly diluted the right of private property owners to determine the disposition and distribution of their estates upon their death. Instead, government bureaucrats get their greedy hands involved .
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
We call it government seizures, tax liens, "forfeiture" Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.
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5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
The Federal Reserve System, created by the Federal Reserve Act of Congress in 1913, is indeed such a "national bank" and it politically manipulates interest rates and holds a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in the United States. This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective. Yet, most Americans naively believe the U.S. of A. is far from a Marxist or socialist nation.
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6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
In the U.S., communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) established by the Communications Act of 1934 and the Department of Transportation and the Interstate Commerce Commission (established by Congress in 1887), and the Federal Aviation Administration as well as Executive orders 11490, 10999 -- not to mention various state bureaucracies and regulations. There is also the federal postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL -- outright socialist (government-owned) enterprises. Instead of free-market private enteprrise in these important industries, these fields in America are semi-cartelized through the government's regulatory-industiral complex.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
While the U.S. does not have vast "collective farms" (which failed so miserably in the Soviet Union), we nevertheless do have a significant degree of government involvement in agriculture in the form of price support subsidies and acreage alotments and land-use controls. The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
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8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization Act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.
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10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .
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So, is the U.S. a "free country" today? Hardly! Not compared to what it once was. Yet, very few Americans today challenge these Marxist institutions, and there are virtually no politicians calling for their repeal or even gradual phase-out. While the United States of America may still have more freedoms than most other countries, we have nonetheless lost many crucial liberties and have accepted the major socialist attacks on freedom and private property as normal parts of our way of life. The nation, whose founders included such individualists as Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, James Madison, John Adams and Patrick Henry, has gradually turned away from the principles of individual rights, limited constitutional government, private property, and free markets and instead we increasingly have embraced the failed ideas and nostrums of socialism and fascism. We should hang our heads in shame for having allowed this to happen.
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But, it is not too late to reverse these pernicious burdens and instead enact pro-freedom reforms to put our nation back on track again. It can be done.
In some ways the Left has a head start over us on the pro-freedom Right. The enemies of American freedom do admittedly dominate the entertainment industry, television news media, and academia -- but we have the tremendous strategic advantage that reality (including man's nature) is on our side; so, unlike the socialists and "liberals" (welfare-state fascists), we are not in the position of having to advocate a system which constantly tries to "make water to go uphill" -- or force human beings into a rigid utopian staitjacket based on the whims of some clique of central planning bureaucrats. We know that individual freedom for peaceful people within a constitutional republic works in practice; our country's history demonstrates that. The piecemeal abandonment of those principles and institutions which once made America great has proved to be a a dead-end road to failure. That is why I tend to be a long-term optimist even though things often look pretty glum in the meantime. Just as Prohibition was eventually repealed, I feel encouraged that such key statist achievements as the income tax, government schools, fiat money/central banking (the Federal Reserve), "environmentalist" regulations, property forfeiture laws, and other Marxist planks and leftist institutions can be rolled back and repealed altogether, although it may take several decades.
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Those who would carry forward the ideas and principles of self-ownership, private property, free markets, laissez faire, the rule of law, and constitutionalism which informed America's founders must become more active on the key ideological battle fronts. We need more influence not just in politics, but in areas of entertainment, academia, journalism, think tanks, churches (we need our own individualist Walter Rauschenbushes), literature, art, and other venues of expression and activism.
Marxism and socialism have proved to be colossal failures all over the world. As Frederic Bastiat wrote in his classic The Law just prior to his death, "let us now try liberty"!
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>>65534300
You shouldn't.
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>>65542576
>Destabilize the EU, by weakening the German economy and preventing a unified and sovereign Europe as a real competitor to the global hegemony of the USA - Europe was never as easy to divide and rule as since this refugee crisis began and all it took were a few well placed memes (most pro-refugee and refugeeswelcome twitter messages originated originated in an organized matter in the US and the UK)
>Put the vassals in line and reassure their dependency on the US protection
>Create a scenario preferable for the New American Century
>Put Europe in debt - favorable to the interests of high-financial capitalists and banks
>Create a brain-drain in Syria to weaken it further and the middle eastern region in general
>destroy German, French, Irish, Spanish, etc. national hegemonity to assure the free flow of human capital with the streams of financial capital and jobs

There are quite a lot of reasons that come to mind actually.
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