http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-is-on-the-brink-of-a-complete-economic-collapse-2016-1
What went wrong?
>>63714687
socialism ran out of other people's money
Nut job becomes President
Nationalizes foreign companies running off all foreign investors
Nut job is then replaced by a socialist and bus driver
>>63714687
Refugees coming your way in 3...2...1...
>>63714687
>What went wrong?
Socialist dictatorship perhaps?
>>63714687
Venezuela has the greatest oil reserves in the world
they get kucked from all sides
Im observing whats happening to Venezuela for a while now and it gets worse by the year.
No idea why they cant defend themselves with what they have but i guess the economic hitman theory is correct.
Hey we are not gay dude
The rest is true tho.
>>63714687
Communism. You're walking through the same path with your Bernies and Hillaries.
>>63714687
>What went wrong?
Racemixing
yet another example of socialism not working, when do we have enough to shut people up?
It just get's worse every year. I honestly am afraid Venezuela will end up in a civil war
How much more humiliation can the people take?
>>63716405
Give us 4 months you will some really good happenings.
>>63714687
Chávez.
>>63714687
and usa want to vote sanders, can you believe it
>>63714835
AAAAAND
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>>63714687
this was once a spanish colony that has GDP per capita equal to that of the US
>>63716049
Gee, I wonder if this fits the exact definition of cherry picking
Oil hit $28 a barrel.
Chaves never bothered to do anything silly like 'diversifying the economy' so that made up the vast majority of revenue.
What went wrong: Chavez followed by Maduro.
>>63717322
It doesn't. Shortages in Venezuela on basic necessities and and foodstuffs are very, very real.
Medical supplies have to be smuggled in, with the military skimming real heavily off the top. The country is in economic ruin, with the middle class pretty much completely evaporated at this point.
Just say no to left wing dictatorships.
>>63717322
>Some things sell faster than others
>Everything is totally fine, you guys
>>63717322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLwgmbFX0I
>>63717322
>people are so poor that they cant even buy things to clean their toilets
what is she buying? water?
Send Bernie Sanders down to fix everything!
Wait - never mind.
>>63717309
Venezuela has resource potential to be one of the richest countries on the planet.
>>63717322
This crowd is desperately waiting to receive supplies in a supermarket, thanks to those commietards who fell for the revolution and equality meme. But hey, America needs a leader who'll give free stuff and federal aid :-)
>>63714835
First. Best.
>>63716049
Im on ipad so I cant do it, but someone add Bernie's logo to that picture.
>>63717087
Maduro
>>63718129
In 1950 we where a fraction of the population of nowdays, so is not useful the comparison.
>>63718287
>>63718772
>we
God damn it
Why is not a single canadian on this board actually canadian???
It's always a fucking gook, poo2loo, nigger or spic.
>>63716405
It's pretty much almost there.
BUT BUT BUT they did the wrong kind of socialism, like all the other socialist rulers before them unfortunately.
Real socialism works, I swear.
>>63719129
It had to be a Fucking Frog. Go back to your unemployment asshole.
>>63719129
>Why is not a single canadian on this board actually canadian???
Guys, should we tell him the truth about 2016's Canada?
>>63716271
Venezuela has been a mongrel nation for hundreds of years. I think being socialist oilniggers is a better explanation
Socialism.
The rich and educated fucked off that shithole the first chance they could because the government was taking their assets and taxing them up the ass. Venezuela then experienced a case of intellectual hemorrhage over the years and the only thing that sustained the country was the fact that oil prices, back then, where up.
Venezuela's economy is entirely dependent on its heavy oil and without said educated populace they can't process it, specially true in today's market. They actually import food despite having great land for agriculture.
>mfw telling liberals in my uni that Chavez destroyed everything and that he is no hero
>mfw those same liberals are voting for Sanders
>mfw going to experience this shit again
>>63714687
>What went wrong?
Socialism combined with cronyism
>>63715623
there is no economic hitman here. they tried existing though theft. they are now dying. its proof the world isn't so bad.
>>63720038
Not just socialism but a shitty government in general. Look at their crime rates.
Venezuela is not a Mexico where you can say it is because of drug cartels. It just seems like the state got weak and so criminals are able to run rampant.
I live in Miami and we got the bulk of Venezuelans of anywhere on earth I think and knew this dude who wasn't even a rich Venezuelan like most of them here and the stories he told me were insane. He personally knows so many people who died of street violence.
>>63720038
Its even worse when you are a Venezuelan like me
We need a fucking Pinochet at this point, the country is a laughingstock
>>63714687
socialism, what else.
Arab/Venezuelan here, Lots of kin back in Ven hate Chavez with a passion. they lost a lot of $ but are still doing well because they have lots of land and cattle... they wont starve. I hear what hurt them bad was the Colombian FARK coming over the border and fucking things up in the western states
>>63721215
First time i went there 1987 they loved Americans almost every \where i went... wa happen
The socialists ran out of other people's money
>>63721992
Socialism happened
>>63721826
Are you an Arab Venezuelan or just mixed race? I remember reading an article about some convenience store owner in Miami that police were harassing his customers (black neighborhood) and it mentioned he was a Venezuelan of Palestinian descent. It surprised me enough where I recalled that from your post.
>>63714835
First post is literally the best post
>>63721992
>Wa happen?
Same story as any South American shithole. Same story with Chavez, with Che, the Sandinistas, even fucking Escobar. All you need to rule a country is a big, dumb smile and an endless stream of inane promises for the useful idiots who get fucked time and time again, and still tee up for more.
And remember: whatever inevitably goes wrong, IT'S NEVER YOUR FAULT. Just blame the yanquis and nationalize a few more industries. That ought to do the trick.
>>63714687
American meddling and destabilization.
it's threads like this that make me really hope bernie wins.
if we can get a real socialist in charge, the whole world will get redpilled at watching our collapse.
>>63724238
Come on, guy. Socialists will always just say it wasn't done right.
>>63725822
maduro actually blame americans for everithing, so this.
>>63714687
Islamic Communism.
>>63717322
Are you seriously THIS fucking retarded.
>Elect a bus driver as presidente
>Previous president was a thug
>Be surprised that your country becomes a shithole
Also 95% of their exports were oil
>oil production fell 25 percent between 1999 and 2013.
LOL fucking socialist can't even care for their golden goose
Man I can't wait for socialism here. Yeehaw! #DieCISscum #FeeltheBern #Multiculturalismforall #Killwhitey
Obviously this is the fault of American Imperialism.
>>63714687
Socialism, not even once
>>63714835
You're now an honorary American. Here's your hamburger and complimentary gun.
>look at Venezuela
>laugh about communism
>remember that Um Brazilian
I just want a Vatican City Citzenship, Is that too much, God?
>>63714687
How the fuck has it not collapsed already?
I remember threads months ago about toilet paper shortages.
Are they sacrificing the elderly?
At least we can finally shut up idiots saying it's not happening and prove that it's a crawl to the bottom
>>63714687
but it looked so nice in mercenaries 2
>>63715623
>economic hitman theory is correct.
are you fucking DUMB hans
the capitalist system is based on mainstream economics, by which I mean the people that control the money (from any given entrepenur to the head of IMF) are taught orthodox economics at university, so they design the system around it, make predictions around it, change their expectations according to it
and that's all that fucking matters, it's not that they are evil, they have the money, they follow a system, if you want the money, you have to fllow the system, it's that simple
the moment a government even thinks about going against mainstream economics, regardless of what heterodox economics says, regardless if the people or the gdp of a country are going to be better off, you are making a deliberate decision to give the middle finger to that system, putting a huge veil of uncertainty and risk to all outsider money
you might succeed for a while, like venezuela and libya did, and boy the money will be happy for as long as you suceed, but on the first side of trouble, you'll be left alone with fuck all, and money will say to you: figure this shit out or do a hard reset
there's no such thing as an economic hitman as an entity or an individual, you shoot yourself in the foot and put the blame on others for not wanting to take you to the hospital
>>63714687
>>63717087
>>63718012
Let's hope Venezuela crashes before Sanders is nominated, if he has a chance
>>63717322
Retard, fucking piece of shit.
You can't actually buy food without an id.
If you want to buy 6 bottles of milk but only have 2 children, you won't be able to buy them.
>"Sorry you need 3 children to buy 6 bottles, come next week in your designayed supermarket at your designated hour to buy"
THIS IS LITERALLY HOW IT WORKS YOU RETARD, YOU CAN'T BUY ALL THE FOOD YOU WANT.
In Venezuela, the medium wage is 20 fucking dollards.
20 dollars a month.
Retard, keep defending communism while people get murdered for toilet paper.
Meanwhile maduro's daughter lives in Germany.
Venezuela needs to stand up and hang Maduro.
so, why isn't finland's economy failing? or cuba's? clearly socialism is doomed to fail, so all socialist countries should be in a perpetual state of failure.
>>63716049
>After Super Bowl Sunday
>>63729738
Those litteraly aren't true Socialist countries
>>63729738
>cuba isn't failing
When was the last time you went to cuba?
>>63714687
>What went wrong?
Do you even need to ask? They voted for a disgusting sudaca subhuman indio as their President for "muh socialism." They got a dictatorship and the complete collapse of their economy on the brink of a civil war. They got what they deserve imo. I'd like to think they will learn from this healthy dose of the reality of socialism and grow from this. But the cynic in me only sees this repeating 10-20 years down the line.
>>63730090
ah. i see. what kind of literal countries are they
>>63730214
when i googled its gdp
https://www.google.com/search?q=cuba+gdp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>63717322
All you have to do is look up "toilet paper shortage in Venezuela" to see it's true. They are literally unable to wipe their asses with toilet paper due to shortages of just about everything.
>>63730479
Capitalists
US has trade with Cuba now, you know
>>63729738
Cuba doesn't have a functioning modern economy. I don't think you get how cubans get by. They eat and get healthcare + education for cheap. That's about it. They have nothing else. They smuggle hard drives with pirated netflix shows into the country and literally distribute it via USB sticks to other people. Every household has a manual on how to repair everything, from an electrical fan to a car, because they are still reusing and repurposing shit from the 50's. Havana is a shithole in ruins because their construction sector is weak as shit, each decrepit building packed with 4 or 5 families living together. Much of that is because of the embargo though.
>>63717349
Nah, they were in shit even @$110/barrel.
Now @$30-something is Armageddon for Socialist 3rd world-type economy.
Same will happen to Russia as they have majority of GDP by selling oil and gas.
>>63730629
>>63729738
For how much Michael Moore praises Cuba's healthcare, he didn't even go there for treatment
>>63719129
You shouldn't really be complaining Pierre bin Faisal. Mapleland may be overrun by spics and chinks but at least it's not overrun by Libyan niggers.
>>63730709
>>63717349
And Iran should enter the market any day now
>>63722982
Bingo, anon gets it.
South America has been like this ever since they became independent nations. It's always big promises, reappropriation, corruption, exploitation and the inevitable 'dindu nuffin it was the big satan's fault.'
Chile is probably the only country in SA that hasn't followed this cycle; even though they have tried. It was all thanks to based Augusto "free helicopter rides for commies" Pinochet. His regime was ruthless with commies and drugs. The two biggest issues in S.A.
>>63730586
it's not a capitalist country. it's a mixed economy country - it has components of socialism and capitalism, just like the usa.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/081514/socialist-economies-how-china-cuba-and-north-korea-work.asp
>>63730629
>Cuba doesn't have a functioning modern economy.
okay, where's the evidence? provide links.
>>63730980
They actually did like 2-3 days ago.
Following months Iran flooding the market with oil as they have feud with Saudi oil sheikhs will be glorious.
But it may be an elaborate conspiracy to eliminate shale gas industry in the US by driving them out of business. Anywhore, shale gas and electromobiles are the future. Once Westerners get rid of gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines, it would be GG for:
Russia
Saudi Arabia and entire Persian Gulf in general
Canada
Mexico
Nigeria
Venezuela
Literally a world would become a better place.
>>63720038
sanders would have his head blown up if he even tried to do 1% of what venezuela does don't worry.
>>63731955
>electromobiles are the future
Still too expensive for most people
>>63717087
To be fair, America is mostly hispanic these days.
>>63730928
Thank you burger-kun (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
>>63719186
Why is El Salvador so violent?
>>63720038
Mfw I know a dude who was born in Venezuela
Mfw he is voting for bernie Sanders
Mfw he says socialism is good
How can I red pill him?
>>63733209
It's the water.
It's a pretty shitty place that was a gateway for drug traffickers from S.A. during the 80s-90s. Not to mention the nasty civil war they had in the late 70s and the gang warfare that sprung up from the instability. It's just a bad place to live. I kinda feel bad for those people. Everyone here always harps on about niggers in Africa. To be fair, we should be helping some of these central american countries that have been caught in the crossfire between the U.S. and it's war on drugs.
>>63715148
They are mostly sail to Santo Domingo.
>>63733817
>How can I red pill him?
It's too late anon. He needs to be put down at that point.
It's almost like the oligarch owners on the factories are deliberately producing less goods to bring to market to destabilize the economy!
>>63733817
Dude what
Thats fucking impossible
You have to take serious mental gymnastics in doing that if you left the country
Jesus fuck what, like every Venezuelan I know wears a god dam Trump cap
>>63714687
Their socialism didn't just fuck up by stealing everyone else's money, but they also managed to completely base their economy on oil like Canada did.
>>63731697
We killed commies too
But usa gave them money
>>63734664
Some people are just retarded, anon. Death is really the only option left for them. Had a friend in high school (Cuban kid) who was a Che Guevara loving commie faggot. His grandfather was killed during the revolution his grandmother was raped and his dad became an alcoholic because he couldn't deal with the PTSD from those days.
>>63735148
You guys also had a Japanese President and a Greek KGB agent run your country to the ground. Pity, most people I've met from Peru have been really fucking decent.
>>63714687
this t.b.h
>>63735556
The japanese was the only right candidate what could we do?
>>63735828
Nothing...sadly, and to give him some credit he was doing some good things at the start. Fujimori-kun just fucked up big time later on.
>>63714835
Like aways the first post is the best.
>>63736095
nahh Fujmori was just a puppet and a bitch, the real guy in power was Montesinos
>>63735828
kausa plis, Fujimori was the populist candidate that's why he got elected
>>63729066
We tend to remember the spectacular death throes, yet forget the agony that led up to them. This, as with all collapses, will first take form of a slow, but accelerating decline.
>>63719083
Lel argy bring the bantz
>>63736511
>populist
>the guy who applied fmi plan and castrated everyone
>>63729348
No economic hitman in Libya's case, but a conventional one. We dropped a whole lot of bombs in Libya to turn it into what it is now.
Which is to say, a gateway into Europe for foreign invaders. Just a coincidence.
>>63729066
In North Korea they are literaly eating each other and it's not fallen yet.
This shit can last forever.
>>63714835
This. You need to encourage people to produce things, to service things, in order to make it work. Venezuela did the exact opposite and punished local industries for making products. He heavily taxed them, put in bureaucratic roadblocks for them to comply with, and force them to compete with subsidized imported goods. The exchange rate control only works if your currency is trying to appreciate, it's a losing battle the other way around.
Still, the majority of Venezuelans voted for the Bolivian Revolution. They now face the consequences and even worse prospects. If I were a child of a parent who supported this revolution, I would shame them for ruining my future with their selfish wants.
>>63722364
sorry stepped out. Ya Mixed lots of Arabs trading in Venezuela since forever.
I may visit Apure and Margarretta island this summer, its been 9 years since i last went there... fantastic beaches
>>63737602
>>63737602
>the guy that started giving free stuff and gifts to poor people and invented "portatiles"
>not populist
Besides I said "populist candidate", after winning the election he just copied Vargas Llosa program, but before we was against "economic shock"
>>63738271
When is Rousseff going to be publicly hanged? I don't want to miss the execution of that socialist-populist bitch.
>>63739737
One can only hope...
The carnaval has ended so they will finally resume work.
The optimistic are saying that she will fall before the end of the year.
>>63735622
B But he is their George Washington
>>63716049
There's quite a ways to go between the Venezuelan insanity and what Sanders wants to do.
Hell Sanders wouldn't even make the US half as socialistic as Quebec, which is doing fine.
>>63740308
Here we have the list of most main targets to end with Latin American populism:
1. Cristina Kirchner (out)
2. Dilma Rousseff (almost out)
3. Evo Morales (currently in office)
4. Nicolás Maduro (in suicide watch)
5. Rafael Correa (currently in office)
6. Enrique Peña Nieto (currently in office)
>>63741083
I hope Dudeweed isn't another puppet famh
>>63729320
Modern Venezuela as what it would be like if the VZ and PLAV switched roles in that game.
>>63741578
>I hope Dudeweed isn't another puppet famh
He is. He's absolutely terrible. And our current provincial governement (which has more power in Quebec than the Canadian government does) is also a bunch of complete cucks, but their predecessors (the same party) was so corrupt that they are scrutinized closely, so they can't go crazy.
>>63716405
No worries. We will forge them papers and fly them to Canada.>>63716884
>>63735622
Independence was a mistake. Imagine if they had remained there as colonies and we eventually annexed everything.
>>63741859
Now that we got rid of socialists, the main population has to get used to work for a living and not to live from the nanny state's aid.
North America is already falling under the rule of socialists. They want to hijack the Second Amendment, first, and then they'll go to destroy other rights and implement a politically correct dictatorship. But the situation can get better if you guys start attacking the main leftist nest: universities, highschools and other education centres. A libtard is taught in an university to poison the whole society, economics and politics.
>>63714835
Flawless Victory. Quick Win time bonus.
>>63715623
>conomic hitman
m8
in these countries all the power is consolidated in the hands of a few corporations that monopolized everything during one of the many foreign backed coups
Here in the media we got told that only 6 families control the entirety food supply of venezuela
What I never understood is why they never built up the country even basic things as agriculture, they had all to gain and nothing to lose and not for the people themselves but as another form of control and power
I think there are certain rules everyone has to respect that go beyond any country even the US
Also Chavez must had put a lot of incompetent people in key positions
>>63734484
It's always the right wing who's responsible for the left wing's failure, isn't it? No matter what happens, it's the oligarchs, mannnnnn
