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Anyone else think that homosex is a disease? There isn't any evolutionary purpose for it. Also anyone notice how the majority of pedophiles are gays? Also if being gay is a choice then why are so many prisoners raping the same gender who would otherwise be straight? Notice how the majority of gays were abused children?
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>>61179561

The Big Gayification: How men become women while women can't be men
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>>61179720
I think gays are just products of guys imprinting on their mothers due to the lack of a strong fatherly figure. Feminism = increase of gays
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>>61179561

it's not a "disease," and neither is it genetic. after all, if it were genetic, then in 100% of the cases, without fail, where one genetically identical twin is gay, the other would be gay as well - necessarily. that is not the case; it's about 70% of the time that both are gay when one is gay.

it has much more to do with early development and the bond (or lack thereof) one forms with the parent of the same sex. of that bond is weak or missing, the child ends up taking on the preferences of the parent of the opposite sex.

it is not a disease - it is a behavior. and, while most of us do not define ourselves and the very core of our identities by our behaviors, homosexuals (generally) do. this itself is very dangerous.
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>>61179561
Shut the fuck up and go eat a hairy stabwound with boogers in it
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this:

>>61179869

is pretty close to what i was saying here:

>>61180058
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>>61179561
Gays are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, but the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual by virtue of their being such a greater number of them.

>majority of gays were abused children
[citation needed]
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>>61180266

you wouldn't happen to be a homosexual, would you?

and, do you think a "hairy stab wound with boogers in it" is somehow LESS disgusting than a man's ass - with literal shit in it?*

*homosexuals actually believe this
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>>61180266

might i ask what your relationship with your father was like? serious question... and please, be honest.
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>>61180388
You fuck asses too retard. Asses are closed up and there's nothing gross in there if you aren't degenerate about it. We're not all pedophiles. We're not all sick in the head. Why are some animals faggots? Homophobes LOVE gay porn and scat. This is proven. You are conjecture. We can also have our own kids. The Bible regarding this was mistranslated and God approves of surrogates
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>>61180534
Everybody hates their dad. Do you like disgusting vaginas because you want to fuck your mom? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, faggot.
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>>61179720
>men make better woman than actual woman
>woman even fail at being woman

more like this
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>>61180557

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cV_q-mVAAA
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>>61180643
>hating the person who pays your bill for 18 years so that you can post in a Taiwanese Tapestry Talksite
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>>61180784
And that's all this is. Well done beef or a blue steak. Nobody should care. Every time there is nude women or naked men on any board on here, nobody cares about tits as compared to floppy uncut benises and you know this
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>>61180643

>Everybody hates their dad.

not true. you are projecting

>Do you like disgusting vaginas because you want to fuck your mom?

no, i like vaginas because i am a man, and that is how reproduction is accomplished. if everyone did what you do, there would be none of us here to have this conversation.

>Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, faggot.

i agree. but, in this case, you fit the profile of what i was saying here:

>>61180058
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Men these days are getting sucked into being pussies from misinformed media
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>>61180895
Lol good one. Men don't care about anything but themselves. Women are just as bad now
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>>61180740
>Tfw first year famous male became a woman shim won woman of the year
>mfw men are literally better at being women than women
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>>61180946
Surrogacy, moron. I already said this. Nobody cares about your reproduction so you can make more problems. Men don't care what other men do with themselves. Just look up studies as to what I'm talking about or anything else because unlike OP and you I did this with yours and I don't just make up mine
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>>61180643
>>61180977
>projecting canadian getting all assmad that people actually had good fathers
top kek, go back to the muslim gay bar weedman
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>>61181110
I don't give a shit. 70% of men now are single
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>>61179561
Is there any credible scientific source that proves homosexuality is a disease? Or is this just your feelings.
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>>61181155
because 70% of men are fucking betas like you, fuck off back to your sharia zone you fucking moron.
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>>61181200
The fuck are you talking about. Go take your three big brother fantasies and leave the newly vast majorities alone. Dying breed
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Being gay is a mental disorder.
People are gay because they either associate with their same sex too much (e.g. single parents, divorced parents) and side with them. Only having one parent to look up too the brain will take over that this is their Mom & Dad. Then they will associate their sexuality with that gender.

That, or they are forced into it. Like today in prisons and in the minds of fucktards.

That is my belief, I'll come back with some studies if applicable.
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>>61181275
>this whole post
speak english you dumb fucking mudslime.
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>>61181302
Too bad it's existed for thousands and thousands of years and until you prove that all and every single gay and straight meets your Freudian criteria then go masturbate to traps and furries
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>>61179561
>There isn't any evolutionary purpose for it.
I think there's been some evidence found that it has a possible purpose as a means of population control. It could also be the result of unintended interactions between genes, in which case it wouldn't actually need an evolutionary "purpose", nor would it be selected against.

>Also anyone notice how the majority of pedophiles are gays?
No, because that's incorrect.

> Also if being gay is a choice then why are so many prisoners raping the same gender who would otherwise be straight?
Considering they're straight, I think this argument is self-defeating.

>Notice how the majority of gays were abused children?
Again, incorrect.

>>61180058
Almost certainly the result of testosterone levels in the pre-natal environment, actually. Any genetic element found only interacts with it through increasing or decreasing testosterone sensitivity.
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>>61181402
Shut the fuck up and read it again illiterate Shlomo. You said I'm pissed with some kind of nonexistent majority. You're the cranky autist after all
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>>61181086
>Nobody cares about your reproduction so you can make more problems.

how someone could make this sort of argument, without realizing it cuts the legs out from under EVERY argument they make in addition to this one, is beyond me.

after all, are YOU not the result of normal sexual relations between a man and a woman? and, if so, are YOU not one of the very "problems" you rail against? and, if so, why should i believe there is any relevancy or truth to anything you say??

this is why many people believe homosexuality is a manifestation of misanthropy - a genuine hatred of life itself. you certainly sound like that is where you are coming from.
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>>61181407
Also xq28 gene
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>>61181466
no i implied that your a beta bitch and your opinions are shit just like your socialist country, fuck off.
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>>61181406
>Too bad it's existed for thousands and thousands of years

You mean in any declining empire ever? Where the family unit falls apart and decadence and hedonism run rampant?
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>>61181407
>think there's been some evidence found that it has a possible purpose as a means of population control

Why the fuck would the human species need a method of population control for itself?
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>>61181505
>this is why many people believe homosexuality is a manifestation of misanthropy

Those people are dumb on a level I can't even begin to comprehend. You have to ignore more or less all scientific evidence to reach a conclusion other than "it's probably the result of genes" or "it's probably the result of prenatal hormones".
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>>61181505
Not if I were production of a surrogate. Those aren't relations in your ancient dusty sense. Man. Woman. Problems. Leave it be because you know nothing
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technology makes people gay with extended exposure
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UNIX = eunuchs
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>>61181593
Because if the resources in a closed system run out, it has a devastating effect on the entire population. It is better never to reach this point.

This isn't the theory I subscribe to personally, by the way, but I don't think it would be the only example of such a mechanism in nature.
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>>61181529
Christ wasn't an edgy fedora Synagogue of Satan fascist neckbeard like you
>>61181584
Every culture dies. It's been going on along with gays for a long long time. There is no correlation. It's Zionists' job to destroy
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>>61181184
>f pedophiles are heterosexual by virtue of their being such a greater number of them.
did you read the part with the citations?
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>>61181727
Put a bullet in your head faggot pedo. You are literal filth on this earth.
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>>61181841
Living His message is very very hard. You aint got the balls and Sulfuric Lucifer owns your ass
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>>61181727
>call someone shlomo
>" edgy fedora Synagogue of Satan fascist neckbeard "
nice buzzwords you fucking moron, you and your garbage country are lower than Australia tier. At the very least Australians aren't beta bitches.
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>>61181727
>Every culture dies
No. Culture does not die. People die. Ideas will live on, even if the original source is destroyed.

Gays are a product of the destruction of an empire. They are sick in mind and will not enjoy the fruits of life unless they are treated.
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>>61181407

>Almost certainly the result of testosterone levels in the pre-natal environment, actually.

this doesn't at all explain why, in cases of identical twins, there isn't a 100% chance of one twin being homosexual when the other is. after all, they share the same source of nutrition in utero, the same environment, and the same genetic code.

do you believe that bestiality has its genesis in prenatal development as well?

these are behaviors.
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>>61180266
>>61180557
>>61180643
I think you wholly encompass the broadest meaning of the word "faggot"
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>>61181727
fuck you hockeyteeth
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>>61181926
You are a Satan worshipper. It says in Leviticus that faggotry is a sin. Sodom and Gemorrah got destroyed by God due to this sodomy.
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>>61181971
Are the hundreds of animal species which display homosexual behaviour undergoing a societal collapse as well then?

>>61181999
>after all, they share the same source of nutrition in utero, the same environment, and the same genetic code.

No they don't. There is no evidence to suggest that twins share the same prenatal hormonal levels whatsoever.
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>>61181971
>cultures don't die
>gays bring down cultures
>>61181962
It's not the Mosque of Satan now is it? It's not the Church of Satan now is it? It's not the Temple of Satan now is it? You call me a Muslim but you'd kill me like they do because Jews are fucking crazy
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>>61181834
That's not scientific proof, that's an opinion. Give me something better than self proclaimed anecdotal ''evidence'' and ''muh feelings''.
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it's also the result of the acceptance of sodomy between men and women and I don't mean anal alone

I mean everything that isn't purely reproductive, even between married couples
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>>61180643
I love my dad. Literally what are you on about.

He is based.
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>>61179561
OP suffers from colossal stupidity. it's okay, you're free to be that way... for now.
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>>61182092
>Are the hundreds of animal species which display homosexual behaviour undergoing a societal collapse as well then?

You know what else is found in nature? Necrophilia, pedophilia, incest, and cannibalism. Let's legalize those as well eh?
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>>61181600

>You have to ignore more or less all scientific evidence to reach a conclusion other than "it's probably the result of genes" or "it's probably the result of prenatal hormones".

again, there is a VERY easy way to tell if that's the case or not. it's called GENETIC TWINS.

see:

>>61180058

and

>>61181999

what you are claiming is falsified by the fact that homosexuality is NOT always present in both twins; sometimes, it is just one. end of story.
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>>61182128
>implying i dont want to gas your mudslime ass and the jews
your both subhuman species that refuse to progress in any way past your baser instincts, fuck off retard.
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>>61179561
>majority of gays were abused children?
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>>61182090
Eating lobster and wearing polyester is also the same abomination. Malakoi and arsenokoitai in Romans doesn't mean homosexuals (a word that didn't exist til much later) or sodomy. It means pagan temple prostitutions of little kids. We just uncovered this linguistic evidence. Sodom fell because they raped angels. Straights talk about fucking asses all the time
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>>61182161

are you a homosexual?

i'll bet my house and all the people in it that you're not.
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if you enjoy a blowjob from you are wife you're engaging in faggotry subconsciously
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>tfw had one shot at life and turned out gay
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>>61181039
He used to win gold medals in decathlons, now he wins gold medals in mental gymnastics.
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>>61181971
I agree with this

>>61182092
That's exactly the point, humans are supposed to transcend their animal selves, whores and gays are indeed products of steep and alarming social decline
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I grew up in a nuclear family with loving parents who brought me up well.
I still like men.
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>>61182254
Good thing I as Christian is ONLY one who says turn the cheek
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Also some people are born into celibacy

and not fit to marry at all, and they need to realize their calling is special
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>>61182273
Leviticus was not for lay people. It was for pharisees
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>>61182305
biologist? no? what the fucking fuck do youknow about any of this, you asshole?
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Why are we ignoring bisexual people though. What's the reason they are attracted to both sexes?
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>>61182487
porn addiction.

the vast majority of "bi" people would find men disgusting after a month of no fap
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>>61182290
Pretty shit, isn't it
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>>61182186
You didn't answer my question.

>>61182187
As I have already said in this thread, the genes which interact with sexuality do so because they affect sensitivity to testosterone. Identical twins share genes, but do not share their pre-natal environment, which means they are affected by different levels of hormones at different stages. This results in different sexualities.

End of story.
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>>61182290
become celibate, or marry for the sake of duty instead of pleasure

make the ultimate sacrifice
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>>61182487
Because people grow up and we're all different and we're all made in the image and likeness of God. We all have our purpose. This is what greedy right wing Jews don't understand. We can NEVER be what they want. Never. It's never happened and it never will happen. Ever
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>>61182470
I know it's not normal in a normal society
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>>61182290

it's ok, bro. we have all been given a cross to bear.

Rom 7:13-25

also:

1Tim 1:15
Mark 2:17

i mention the Bible verses because, quite often, the impressions that homosexuals have of Christians - and ESPECIALLY of Jesus Christ and Christianity - is a very skewed, distorted one.

not that i blame them at all. too often, they are met with hypocritical condemnation, because people like to condemn the (few) sins that they themselves do not have.

i just want to balance it out a bit.
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>>61180557
>Why are some animals faggots?

There are no recorded cases of homosexuality in wild animal populations living in their natural habitat.

The only such recorded cases are where the animals sre living in areas polluted by human industrial waste.
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>>61182305
That post has had two replies now and neither of them have actually answered the question I asked.
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>>61182092
>Hundreds of animals that display sexual behavior
Are animals intelligent? What are the odds that the animals themselves did not imprint their mothers completely?

Also, last time I checked that they had cited dragonfly scars, in how some tried to mate with other males. Funnily enough, what are the chances that the animal thought it was a female?

>>61182128
I did not say that. To say that cultures (culminations of ideas central to a society, therefore cultures are ideas) die, is like saying that any form of thought dies. They don't. The people holding the ideas die. One could eradicate a whole people with those ideas, but those ideas would resurface, possibly as an "original thought". Its like saying the idea of a circle wouldn't exist if all people who knew of them were exterminated and all records of the circle destroyed.

Gays are a byproduct of the removal of cultures. In turn, they propagate the removal of the same culture, alienating those who believe in it.
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>>61182678
>Gays are a byproduct of the removal of cultures
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>>61182630
Yeah ok. Exclusive homosex exists between 400 and 1600 different species. Just like "all gays have shit relations with same sex parent" your theory sounds like it was pulled out of your ass
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>>61182656
Yes we fucking did, you just didn't hear what you wanted to hear
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>>61182678
When you begin trying to apply your psychoanalytic theories to animals whilst ignoring all the evidence from humans, I believe it might be time to rethink.
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>>61182487
it has more to do with the level of desire one has for sex. Men have the greatest desire. if more women consented, there's probably be more diseases spread, so it's not much about being gay than it is to be a male with little consideration to suppress his sexual desire.
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>>61179561
>There isn't any evolutionary purpose for it.
... that you can see. People who don't have children on their own, so they can devote themselves to working for the tribe, could be very beneficial. But the sex drive still needs a valve.
>Also anyone notice how the majority of pedophiles are gays?
No, I didn't, but surely you have the numbers. Also, that'd be what fraction of gays total?
>Notice how the majority of gays were abused children?
No, I didn't, enlighten me.

Being gay is a deviation from the norm. It's one that's tolerated enough by nature to have survived up to now. It's nothing that'd doom us if people would fucking stop making it the focus of their life. Those people are the problem, and that includes you.
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>>61182778
Read the question again, then read the replies again. If you think either of them answered it, I don't know what to say to you.
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>>61182678
I don't know what you're talking about anymore. I'm leaving now to go blaze and get horny :)
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>>61182769
You were going to post a wikipedia link, weren't you, faggot?
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>>61182769
You are not Christian you are a HERETIC and you will rot in hell for eternity for the sodomy you have committed. All over the Bible it talks about God punishing sodomites like you. It says in the Bible that gays need to be executed. So go ahead, do us all a favour.
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>>61182916
That's not your job, Finklestein. You were wrong
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>>61182624
sociologisy? no? What the fucking fuck do you know about any of this? All you are is an opinion. until you're out on the field, that's all you are. I hate to think of some uneducated shit like you could consider himself an authority of subjects he has no expertise in. you have no credibility.
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>>61182836
homosex is a disease used to target and corrupt those who would normally have a calling to celibacy and service to God above the normal family life
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>>61182916
You don't understand the difference between the biblical "sodomite", as in, "person from the city of Sodom" and the modern meaning of "sodomite", and you expect to be taken seriously?
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there are indeed some men born without attraction to women, because they're born eunuchs and still have a purpose
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>>61183037
Source: Your ass. Which is probably ironic, given the subject.
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>>61179561
It's a mental illness.

The short version is that it's caused by a combination of higher than average impulsive behavior (which is mostly hereditary) and something else which makes them attracted to men or simply the lack of women in some cases.

Shitskins (mudslimes) love to fuck men in the ass, shitskins also tend to be much more impulsive than white people.

Criminality is most of the time also caused by impulsive people who like to fuck themselves in the ass in prison.
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>>61183110
That was nice to read. Bless you
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>>61183068
Sodom was a city of homosexuals therefore referring to someone as a sodomite means they are gay. Fuck off.
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>>61183164
And Lev Tahor fucks 8 year old boys
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>>61183217
>Sodom was a city of homosexuals
Please enlighten me how this supposed city of homosexuals survived longer than one generation.
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>>61183174
not becuase they're flaming faggots like you

their purpose is to abstain from ALL sexual urges and serve God directly.

not to engage in faggotry
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>>61180557
>>61180643

Can you at least proxy to Israel if you're going to be talking this sort of shit?
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>>61183217
No. Angelic rapists. If someone told me they were an angel I wouldn't go and lay them
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>>61182846
You're delusional m8, we did, we gave a whole range of answers that imply that modeling society after mindless animals is not a good model for a healthy, functional society

That's even assuming it's as common as you're making it out to be, which others have said it isn't, and that instances of homosexuality in animals are symmetric with instances of necrophilia and other disgusting features

Admit it m8, there's nothing inherently wrong with being gay, it's just a sign that shit's going south
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>>61183037

is THAT how Catholics explain the problems with their "priests" these days?

not trying to be a jerk here, i just wonder how they justify having created a profession that is literally custom-made for men who have perverse sexual desires, in contravention of Scripture's warning (1Tim4:1-4) about doing just that, and then sitting back and wondering WHY OH WHY does every single "priest" on EWTN and in the pulpits appear to be more effeminate than the most flamingly open homosexual.
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>>61183037
you might as well say its against your religion and be done with it, but that's not good enough for you -you think you must convert the masses to your beliefs. without anything based onlogic, you expect everyone to embrace your worldview. at least gays aren't trying to convert anyone; people like you are. what don't you see? Jesus was right, you have a board in your eye.
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>>61183285
Fuck you then. I have really lessened my sexuality a lot these past years. I don't care about this. We're debating age old issues and nobody can ever be the straight white boring Aryans you all want for 7 billion people
>>61183297
They play both sides. I have only one
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>>61183352
I've said nothing about how common it is. The one thing I've said is that it's the result of hormonal levels in the womb, and that's something no-one has been able to put up a solid counterpoint against because there's no scientific literature with which to do so.

Anyone who believes that it's a sign of societal collapse must thus also believe that prenatal hormonal levels are the best measure of a society's integrity.

Which would be insane, of course.
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>>61179561
Brother/Sisters of homosexuals are more likely to find a good partner, so it can help pass on your genetics indirectly.

Homosexuality is not a disease, it is a belief people have about themselves. This is encouraged by the "scientific" view that people are straight or gay and are born that way. Which is absolute horseshit.
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>>61183307
Yes you would, gays recruit through rape and molestation.
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>>61183461

ignore him, Bro.

and these verses:

>>61182627

i'll send to you, as well
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>>61183525
>The one thing I've said is that it's the result of hormonal levels in the womb, and that's something no-one has been able to put up a solid counterpoint against because there's no scientific literature with which to do so.
So in other words, you pulled a point out of your ass, and then claim victory because no one actually knows the truth on the subject.

Sorry m8, that's not how it works.
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>>61183653
You're fucking delusional you Golem
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>>61183742
Thanks. Yes I saw your post before. I read the Concordant Literal Bible online almost every day
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>>61182767
Every single time. There is a correlation between the loss of culture and rise in gays. Perhaps not a byproduct, but they are related.
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>>61179561
What's the difference? You may call it the way you want: paraphilia, sexual orientation, disease, degeneracy... But the way you call it doesn't change the fact it doesn't affect you in any way who I decide to fuck with.

Are you afraid of getting infected?
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>>61183653
no they don't. christians and muslims are the only ones working on converting anyone. step outside of your bubble and you'll see the difference.
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>>61183746
Uh-huh. I suggest you pick up even the most basic textbook on human sexuality and have a read. Fuck, even wikipedia would sort this out for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation

I'd also like to pause briefly here to laugh at the fact that you basically acknowledged that this entire thread is full of people who have no idea what they're talking about, but have passionate opinions on the subject anyway.
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>>61183525
It's the acceptance of homosexuality that's indicative of societal collapse.
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>>61183525
If it's not common why the fuck do you use it as an example to normalize homosexuality?

Society is more deeply ingrained in our evolutionary functions than you apparently think

I don't think you have right to call anyone else insane. You seem extremely insecure and will do anything to pull strings and to circumvent perfectly modest arguments to get your neediness satisfied

>>61182128
Same goes for you retard
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>>61183873
No, we are afraid of our kids becoming infected, you fuck.

Look at that picture and realize what the world has become. That is a child. Would you want your child to do that? Become some mess of disease and filth from all the people he has fucked, and enjoy it? Do you enjoy corruption of your kids, you cuck?
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>>61183894
>even wikipedia would sort this out for you.

Wikipedia is kike propaganda. They literally deleted the cultural marxist page.
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>>61183894
When you're linking to wikipedia to support your point and even they throw a "may" into the first paragraph to indicate that the whole thing may be bunk, you don't have much to stand on.
>I'd also like to pause briefly here to laugh at the fact that you basically acknowledged that this entire thread is full of people who have no idea what they're talking about, but have passionate opinions on the subject anyway.
I don't see many people having passionate opinions on the cause of homosexuality, just its effects.
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>>61183948
translation:


It's the acceptance of homosexuality that's indicative of the collapse of traditionally bigoted religious values

I'm well aware of the fear you have of losing your influence and power
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Lol I'm homosexual.

I hate religious nutjobs like the ones itt with a passion. They're retarded, continously thinfoil and think the j00s are behind everything lol.
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>>61183765
>>61183877
go google the term "flipping a pancake" you stupid bastards, gays try and turn straight men gay all the fucking time.
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>>61184080
and yet, you cite stormfront propaganda. i bet you dont even know where to find legitimate sources and studies. hint: sometimes you have to pay for it
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>>61183948
>acceptance of something which is the result of uncontrollable factors occuring before you're born is societal collapse

Right.

>>61183955
If you don't see the logic of my argument, I don't really know how this can proceed. The inability to answer my question should sort of indicate the fact that my argument has some merit to it - are animals which have homosexual members of their species undergoing societal collapse? The answer is obviously no, and everyone who has replied to me knows that this is the case, and have had to dance around just saying "no" in order to avoid accepting that their argument is total bullshit.

I'm still waiting for anyone to come back with any kind of scientific literature which suggests anything other than genetic or hormonal influences.

I'll be waiting a while, I suspect.

>>61184080
Wikipedia's really dodgy for anything which can't have scientific papers cited - mainly social subjects such as that one. They're trying to get rid of the page for "regressive left" as well, and the talk section was pretty much people saying it hurts their feelings.

It's fine for scientific stuff like this, though.

>>61184144
That wikipedia article's citations are almost entirely scientific papers on the subject, which you can feel free to read if you're interested in the subject.

>>61184144
>I don't see many people having passionate opinions on the cause of homosexuality, just its effects.
You've missed at least half the thread then, might be worth going back to the top. How anyone could say that and then expect to be taken seriously is hilarious to me - we're literally in the thread you're talking about. I can see that you are wrong by just scrolling up.
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>>61183894

i don't think i ever got a reply to the question i asked about genetically identical twins and homosexuality. the fact that in cases where one twin is homosexual, the other is also homosexual only about 70% of the time and not 100%, would seem to directly falsify the notion that this has anything to do with homosexuality. after all, they share the same source of nutrition, the same environment, the same life support, and the same genetic code.

this fact alone makes it rather obvious that neither genetics or the natal environment has anything at all to do with homosexuality. it is OBVIOUSLY developmental.

and, when you note that homosexuals generally have had a broken/missing/dysfunctional bond with the parent of the same sex, it gets even MORE obvious that gestational factors have naught to do with it.
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>>61184273
>>61184273
not my friends, though i can't speak for all gays, you may encounter those who won't stop flirting with you, but this isn't typical gay behavior, it's typical MALE behavior.
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>>61184429
What male flirts with other males all the time?
A gay.

Your argument is invalid.
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>>61184428
You did get a reply, it's that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that twins share a prenatal environment. There is evidence to suggest that their hormonal levels differ during pregnancy.
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>>61184322
>That wikipedia article's citations are almost entirely scientific papers on the subject
And as we all know, there are no papers stating the contrary.

We also know that twins always share a sexuality, so that theory must be ironclad. Wait.
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>>61184049
>No, we are afraid of our kids becoming infected, you fuck.

Is homosexuality contagious?
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>>61184429
>men do this all the time
yes to women, who we are biologically fucking attracted to. not other men you giant fucking raging homosexual fuck. God i wish gay beating was still a fucking thing.
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>>61184537
invalid? you deny men do this to women? You're more offended that there are men who do it to other men, maybe even you, but that's your problem if you're going to waste your time in fear of it. it's not conversion, cuz it's not all gays, but you know the saying, "men are pigs."
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>>61184602
As I've explained already maybe 5 times in this thread, genes which influence sexuality are those which also influence sensitivity to androgens. There is evidence to suggest that twins do not share the same hormonal environment whilst in the womb, and thus can have different sexualities.
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>>61184627
Yes.
Through Society.
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A homosexual is a person with a dangerous mental illness. They molest children at a truly alarming rate--thirty times the rate of heterosexuals according to one of the studies. Their lifespans are shortened by decades due to their behaviors. They spread deadly diseases. They side with the enemies of our race on virtually every issue. Shall I continue?
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>>61184649
>who we are biologically fucking attracted to.

Gays are biologically attracted to men. Are you following the discussion?
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>>61184735
Men flirting with other men is not male behavior.
It's gay/cuck behavior.
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>>61184649
but you're counting them all out on account of a few. how is that logical? then again if you're more concerned with violence, logic perhaps isn't one of your strong points.
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>>61184846
Gays are male.
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>>61184778
Sauce?
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>>61184551

>it's that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that twins share a prenatal environment.

well, THAT'S a real head-scratcher.

i'd like to ask you what you meant by that, but the more i think about it, there really isn't any possible answer. did it somehow escape your notice that genetic twins also share the same uterus of the same woman, in addition to the same exact genetic code?

i'll let you take a crack at it anyway, if you're inclined... what did you mean by this???
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>>61184921
Gays are not male. They are cucks.
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>>61184926
go to /b/

4chan is complicit in a huge way, the internet should be taken down
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>>61183217
This is what Sodom did to kiss God off:

>Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: Therefore I took them away as I saw good

Basically they were lazy, arrogant, and uncharitable. Also they hated foreigners and wanted to rape an angel.
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>>61184846
men flirting and trying to get laid is male behavior. it's even more so when two or more men are attracted to each other. You're thinking is selective as opposed to seeing the big picture.
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>>61184926
http://patriotupdate.com/gallup-poll-suggests-growth-of-homosexuality/

Also: Rise in HIV.
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>>61184966
There is no evidence to suggest that twins share the same prenatal environment. Prenatal environment is the term used to refer to things such as the level of hormones delivered, but also to things such as the timing. There is no evidence to suggest that twins share the above, and the fact that they share a uterus is not relevant. Measures of prenatal androgen levels such as the 2d4d ratio suggest that twins do not in fact share the environment.

In other words, there is no evidence that they do share it, and there is evidence that they do not. Whether you accept that evidence is pretty much down to ideology, since this is /pol/, but the evidence exists.

>>61185036
Cucks are also male.
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>>61185110
You don't get it, do you?
Gays aren't male.
They lost their man cards long, long ago.
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>>61184775

>There is evidence to suggest that twins do not share the same hormonal environment whilst in the womb, and thus can have different sexualities.

source, plz.

and you can cancel my question here:

>>61184966

since this is apparently what you meant by that.

though, i'm not sure why you didn't say something like, "they may share the same ENVIRONMENT, but be subject to hormonal differences" or something like that. the way you phrased it, it was like you were going out of your way to deny the obvious, at the risk of sounding absurd.
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>>61185180

i imagine you grew up with your guy friends and in high school, you'd all get together and plan who you were gonna fuck that night. there's not much resistance when both parties are thinking the same thing.
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>>61185200
>>61185137

wow - you're a quick typist.

now, i can has source plz?

...because this would have to happen in about 30% of the cases where one at least one twin is homosexual. it sounds to me like you are fighting a losing battle in an effort to prop up your worldview
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>>61185180
the internet creates cucks

in fact ALL technology with screens encourages cuck/voyeur behavior

electricity caused the huge rise in cucks and faggots

hell the people who invented half this shit were cucks and faggots

technology == fagotry
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>>61185200
Yeah, sorry, "prenatal environment" does not mean the literal physical environment in this case, it is a scientific term used to refer to a whole bunch of things. I should've made that clearer.

Here's your source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12597269
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>>61185344
Another one:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221770934_The_Second_to_Fourth_Digit_Ratio_2D4D_in_a_Japanese_Twin_Sample_Heritability_Prenatal_Hormone_Transfer_and_Association_with_Sexual_Orientation
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>>61185369
so you're against technology? i see an equal amount of hate coming out to play as well. that's a very narrow minded assumption from you.
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>>61185128
Of course there's a growth of homosexuality stats, you moron. Back then when homosexuality was immoral, nobody would admit being gay in a poll. At the same rate that homosexuality becomes more accepted, more gays leave the closet.

But that has nothing to do with it being contagious or not.
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>>61185635
If he didn't realise that on his own, I think you might be wasting your time.
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>>61185635
>>61185714
Homosexuals spread disease, engage in perverted behaviors, and have been shown to frequently engage in pedophilia.
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>>61185635
i agree with this logic
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>>61185319
No, I didn't.
I also have known three gays in my whole life. Most of which were disgusting.
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>>61185808
fundamental christian?
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>>61185779
Your argument's pretty confused here. If they spread disease, it is surely only to other homosexual males. If they engage in paedophilia, then how are we even discussing people who are attracted to adult males? That would be paedophiles, not homosexuals, surely?

The perverted behaviour thing reveals the true basis of your argument, which is that you simply don't like it.
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A further question for those of you who believe homosexuality is bad because of correlation with risk-taking, paedophilia, etc:

The correlations between those things and being male are far higher than the ones between those things and being gay. Are males a problem?

I mean, just following your logic naturally, you might be better off on Tumblr.
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>>61186043
Here's a study faggot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

"the ratio of homosexual to heterosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually."
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>>61185635
When will this projected "coming out" end?
Increase of homosexuality is still an increase, no matter the causes.
Also, why do you say when it was 'immoral'? It still is.

>>61185877
Used to be Mormon, left the church due to rebellious phase. Don't have a church.
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>>61186043
Here's another one, fag: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

"Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children."
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>>61186168
How about you go and look up the figures for paedophilia and being male, then come back and actually answer my question. Your opinions suggest that if you were born with a vagina, you'd be one of the HURR ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS plebs on Tumblr.
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>>61179561
It's for cultural and spiritual evolution, not physical.
It tests unconditional love.
Some say gays are equally male and female and therefore have an out-of-the-box attitude to social situations and are highly intuitive, being able to offer support to both sexes with ease.

Look into tribal attitudes to it, it's quite interesting.
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>>61186206
It's an increase in people *saying* they're homosexual because they are not afraid to. This has been explained in very simple terms for you several times at this point. It is not an increase in homosexuality itself.
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>>61186293
Again, please feel free to check the rates of male and female paedophiles. Is being male a problem as well then? Might as well cut your dick off.
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>>61186294
bullshit, because there's a HUGE underreported demographic of female lesbian child molesters
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>>61186408
You're argument is a fallacy. You are twisting what I say completely. A minority that makes up 1% of the population is committing almost half of the sex crimes against children.
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>>61186168
>among [caught] sex offenders
That pretty much invalidates the whole research. Studies about pedophilia are a fucking joke since they only involve caught sex offenders.
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>>61186206
>>Used to be Mormon, left the church due to rebellious phase. Don't have a church.

well maybe some of the negativity about sex affected you in some way. not entirely your fault, and i don't ask you to accept it.

Now, you might not like the lifestyle, but while our educational system needs fixing, does it really make sense to contribute to the intellectual decay by spreading intolerance? Not all gays are perverts
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>>61179561
Nothing in the research on T Gondii has ever pointed to making someone homosexual. And the rat example equating extraction to cat urine the same as sexual preference (which it is not).

Everything in that image and research is all "correlation doesnt means causation" on homosexuality.
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>>61186516
You think gay people are 1% of the population?

Also, men commit around 96% of sex crimes against children. I'll ask again: Are men a problem too? Your argument suggests that they are, yet you're stopping short of admitting it.

Like I said, you'd probably be better off on tumblr.
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>>61186357
But it is.
Admission is becoming therefore increase.
You do not know if they were gay before or not, do you?
Never assume.
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>>61181302
>Associate with their same sex too much
Gays are known to act similarly to the opposite sex. How does that make any sense.
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>>61186716
the internet is making them faggots

it's not hard to see that computers are the main cause
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>>61186703
>expecting /pol/ to accept scientific evidence when it doesn't fit their world view
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>>61186716
This is such a stupid argument that I don't even know where to begin taking it apart. The words don't even look as if they're in the right order. "Admission is becoming therefore increase." is not even a valid sentence. You've stumped me. Are you suggesting "Schrodinger's gays"?
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>>61179561

>I'm "straight" but spend a lot of time thinking about male on male sex

t. Absolutely Hetero
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>>61185036
homos by definition can't be cucks because they don't have female partners
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>>61186587
Our educational system does need fixing.
Agreed.

I have negative views of it because most gays I have met were disgusting peoples. I honestly expect the trend to continue and from what I see in media they are.

>>61186868
I guess it was terse.
Becoming gay results in Admission of being gay which increases admission along with becoming.

As admission rises, becoming gay rises.
Therefore as admission rises, by default becoming gay rises.

>>61187107
Gay families are raising non-biological kids, or if they are biological they have a surrogate mother. There are cucks abound with gays.
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>Be gayfag
>See this whole thread
>Bunch of closeted faggots getting all buthurt (and not in the good way)
>TOP KEK

Meh IDK if I'm sick or not OP. I just like dick.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>61187468
That doesn't even begin to make sense.
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>>61187468
homo/tranny shit is the first step on the androgynous techno occult agenda

this is what it's really about

technology and anti-human

I'm a computer engineer and I feel complicit and guilty

people don't realize that technology and nerds == faggots they are one and the same
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that's why there were so many homos and other degenerates in the sciences

inventors got their ideas from occult methods
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>>61187711
>high-IQ professions are dominated by people who accept gays

HMM I WONDER WHAT CONCLUSIONS CAN BE DRAWN FROM THIS
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>>61187962
for hundreds of years in many religions it was a known belief that demonic possession grants unusual intelligence, but at a price
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>>61188016
Yeah, intelligence is the result of demonic possession, according to people who thought the earth was flat. No wonder appealing to rationality wasn't working.
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weak bait

The answer of homosexuality lies in epigenetic, the moment of the building of the fetuses. Wrong lifestyle allied with stress can give wrong hormones to the fetuses; thus, creating wrong commands to the cells that develop the fetuses. Of course it's a matter of chances, not 50/50.

Now, pedophiles, that's a conceptual problem. The impregnation of the conception of "innocence" over the 20 century invention called "child", the brainwashing of the new beauty paradigm that worship silky smooth skin, "angel-like" features, the "sexy cuteness" and at same time the precocious sexualization of children brings a package that teases the sexuality of people. Once you imprint this package into a person's mind, you create a pedophile, and these imprints happens mostly when this person is young, quite young. Sexuality is amoral. It doesn't follow rules, nor understands conscious concepts of "child" and "wrong" and at the same time, sexuality nuances can be built by all kinds of information (audio-visual mostly) imprinted on people's minds dictating what is sexy, what is not.
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ITT straight men cry about why gays for being better than them in every way. I bet men get furious when girls hit on gay guys more than they do them. I know this to be true with me, all them insecure men who get jelly of me talking/spending time with their gf and their stupid perception about gay men being super camp.
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>>61183765
Common filth had a screen shot of fags saying thry wanted to rape the straightness out of a "pretty boi"
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>>61188218
exactly,

modern technology and the office job causes epigenetic changes leading to feminized males, you don't even need xenoestrogens

internet use I predict will do the same thing to future generations

computers literally make you gay.
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>>61188296
Gay men have, on average, 5 times as much sex as a straight man. People act as if they are disgusted by this promiscuity, but it has been found that the amount of sex gay men generally have is pretty much equivalent to the amount of sex straight men say they would *like* to have.

>>61188312
I'd avoid using the idea of rape against gays. Rape is a much stronger argument that men are degenerates than gays. It's tumblr-tier reasoning.
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>>61179869
That pic is wrong though if it's a recessive gene...
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>>61179561
The evolutionary purpose is obvious.

If there is ever a lack of females, instead of men fighting over women they can just, quite literally, go fuck themselves.

Even heteros are possible to engage in homosexual activity simply because of a lack of females. Look at prisons. Look at The Roman Legions. Etc.

Sex drive trumps sexual orientation for a lot of hetero men.

Also, considering men's role in sexual procreation, being homosexual is extremely beneficial for soceity.

As it is: it only takes a few men to do the deed to thousands of women.

Faggots kept the scales balanced for hetero men. Assuming you have a 10% gay male population, there's at least a surplus of females for the hetero men.

As we all know there's not actually straight up gay females, but bisexual.

How often do you hear about a women who exclusively fucked women and never men? You don't. Not even in Myth I wager. So with homos allowed to homo there are no problems.

Honestly, it's the vilification of homosexuality that causes it to be a problem. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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>>61184322
>It's fine for scientific stuff like this, though.
What about "scientific racis' "?
Wikipedia is just a very organized pastebin that tends to have leftist shit on it. Nobody is thrustworthy
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1)Gays are...well, gay

2)They are not pedos.

3)They are annoying but ultimately benign.

4)Hating gays is like hating Katy Perry. Why even bother?
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>>61188542
Sexuality outside reproductive purposes is harmful to society at large. Its a vice like drugs. Accept meth heads as something "normal" and you have a problem.
Nobody wants people having standard fuck parties
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>>61189130
is sex for pleasure with your wife also harmful?
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>>61188492
>Rape is a much stronger argument that men are degenerates than gays
What? i understood shit
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I might argue that the female orgasm is unnatural in itself, as is ALL female sexual pleasure even within the marriage, as it doesn't happen from natural intercourse

women are supposed to lie back and suffer the pain, not pleasure
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>>61188699
You'd think gay men and straight thirsty bros would be best friends... Less competition for them and more chances for them to get women
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>>61184428
I'm a homo who hates my mother but loves my father. So I should be straight right? Or are you gonna say my mother turned me off from women?
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>>61189402
lie back and think of england? that's for the english bro. you can be better than that. sex is best when you make her moan
>>61189412
i never got this either.
>we're eliminating competition for you!
>die in a fire faggot!

why?
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>>61189290
>sex with wife
>not reproduction
Yeah right
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>>61189463
Don't confuse sexual attraction for love, sodomite
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>>61189673
but it isn't reproductive 9/10 times

I'm talking when you already have kids and still fuck for pleasure, do oral etc at night
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>>61189130
Don't be stupid. It's been proven that recreational sex (not for reproductive purposes) regardless of gender. Serves as an important social factor in a lot of ape species.
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>>61189773
Why oral? Women have a naturally lubricated hole
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>>61189587
Yeah... So who's fucked in the head now right?
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>>61190019
I'm saying, is having sex within the marriage degenerate within itself beyond a set number of times with one orgasm per child wanted?

after you have had all the kids you want it's degenerate to ever have sex again
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>>61189852
Chimps literally eat each other and bonobos are a feminist matriarchy. No thanks
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>>61188413
I think our adaptation runs towards the homogenization of the genders since we run to the complete control of the environment where we don't need the genetic diversification that once we used to better adapt. As we speak about "genetic diversification" I don't mean the mix of the races but the existence of genders to gather more data from the environment to create better and faster adaptations.
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>>61190323
No. Human evolution is highly unpredictable, for all i know its quite possible we go back to being niggers in rhe jungle or we turn into copies of Mohammed. Cultural factors mess a lot with any pattern you could observe
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>>61189130
I take it you have fathered many children, or have never had sex?

If you are using this argument against homosexuality, can think of a FAR better one. It is honestly a pathetic argument against homosexuality, since sex for the sake of non reproductive purposes can be applied to the vast majority of people with availability to contraception.

Exactly like the people who hate gays, but wanna have a blow job and do anal with a girl. They are both sodomy.
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>>61179561
i thought being gay was a fail safe means to prevent that human from breeding as something in its genes would be terrible to pass on so body decides to switch of lust for opposite sex
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>>61190632
Exactly my point
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Besides, if homosexuality wasn't beneficial for the human species as a whole, wouldn't the next evolutionary step be to get rid of that conduct? That isn't the case.
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>>61191109
maybe evolution is a lie
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>>61189322
The proportion of rapes committed by males is far higher than the proportion of rapes committed by gays.

>>61188663
Actually, the "intelligence and race" article does a good job of covering stuff the media would never touch.

Which is basically everything on the subject science has ever produced, since their studies constantly return controversial results.
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>>61189130
You are wrong.
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>>61190818
Exactly. Degeneracy is degeneracy.
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>>61180557
>Homophobes LOVE gay porn and scat
Citation needed.
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>>61191109
Evolution is not a step process. Google >population genetics
>neodarwinism
>genetic oscillation
>>61191251
>by males
>by gays
Rephrase your sentence wanker
And is this controlled for the ammount each kind makes of the total men? Is it accurate given the chances of a gayrape not being reported?
>Actually, the "intelligence and race" article does a good job of covering stuff the media would never touch
I have to agree, but for how much time?
If you dont look at the sources directly there will be always someone to bullshit you
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>>61191609
Why?
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>>61192539
That is still highly debatable in the scientific community and still doesn't refute that, either genetic or environmental, homosexuality wouldn't persist in the species if harmful.
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>>61192539
Dude you can't throw random concepts you obviously don't know to make a point. It's stupid
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>>61179561
I sincerely think it is in a way. I think the vaccines they give you around 12 or 13 do. I am straight always have been but after 12 or 13 and I got that shot I kept thinking about men, like how they smell and taste. Thing is I am NOT gay though. This has artificially induced. It is why so many gays are around now but they are weak and give in you have to fight it. If you give in you become a full homosexual
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>>61179561
It's a mental disorder like bipolar. This is also why I don't fault people for it since they can't help it. Now there's a big difference between being gay and being a faggot however.
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>>61193640
or maybe it's because you started fapping to porn at that age and depleting your testosterone
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>bait thread
>200 replies
ok
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>>61193640
>I am straight always have been but after 12 or 13 and I got that shot I kept thinking about men
LOL

There are still funny people on /pol/ after all.
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>>61179561
yes its a std. people that have faggyness give it to you when you have sex. its airborn or something because even if you use a condom you still get it
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>>61179561

It is. But you should not denigrate the sick. Do you nake fun of people who are bipolar? Schizophrenic?
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>>61193640
>>61193798
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>>61193585
Lol i didnt tried to make a point with it i was to lazy to make a point and gave you shit to do a basic research
>>61193401
Trying to find out wether homosex is harmful through evolution would be a hella complicated becuase evolution doesnt (de)select "harmful" or "good" things. Its what is selected or not that determines it. For all we know gays in western societies could be just the result of some random oscillations along with neutral selection by forced monogamous relationships.if its that youd have a nice argument:
>if you hate fags dont force us to be hetero and we will dissapear in no time
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>>61193640
>Vaccines
More likely its the ton of endocrine disruptors everywhere and hormones from anticonceptionals in the water
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>>61194508
Then why don't you goolge puntualistic equilibrium theory?
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>>61194191
>I don't agree
>This is bait
I'll bet you believe /pol/ is one person too
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>>61194865
Nice trolling. No google results. Gonna use it now for the lulz
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>>61183865

Not really. Gays existed in large numbers in Greece even when its culture was strong.
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>>61193640

Maybe that's because you hit puberty, you retard? Are you really this stupid?
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>>61180058
freudians oedipal complex
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>>61179561
you do have to be taught that feces is dirty by the way, babies even play with it untill they are corrected
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>>61198001
Did you ever felt disgusted by a smell you dont know?
Take your social constructivism back to your gender studies classes
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>>61197953
Freud= jewish BS
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