German Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU/CSU) is considering EU-wide taxes to finance refugee providing.
On another note, he agreed to the usage of regular army forces inside Germany; to deal with our new guests.
>>61154427
No shit, they're going to costs trillions per generation
Power to PEGIDA when ?
Sorry, forgotten to quote a source.
http://m.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article151081094/Schaeuble-will-Autofahrer-in-Asylkrise-zur-Kasse-bitten.html
I already translated all the important parts.
>>61154427
never going to happen. Schäuble has lost his mind and if he doesn't shut the fuck up he'll get shitcanned.
>>61154542
What about Le Pen?
>>61154585
He has a lot of influence - it was him, mit Merkel, who made the decisions in the Eurozone crisis.
>>61154427
you can fuck yourself
>>61154542
>>61154619
i like this delusion of the dead. you realize your countries are already done? u cant reverse it without holocaust of muslims and niggers, and that wont happen.
>>61154684
Not yet. France has twice to die times the amont of problems with certain groups of people - and it still exists, kinda.
Nothing less than being flayed alive is acceptable for all this globalist filth.
>>61154768
we dont have mass rapes yet
>>61154619
2017 i hope
>>61154815
Only mass killings
>>61154815
FICKI FICKI
>>61154815
Orly?
According to a 2014 report, about 5,000 to 7,000 of the rapes are gang rapes.[8] In the culture of the banlieues, gang-rapes are referred to as tournantes, or "pass-arounds").[9][10] One of the first people to bring public attention to the culture of gang rape was Samira Bellil, who published a book called Dans l'enfer des tournantes ("In Gang Rape Hell").[9][10]
In October 2012, two girls in Fontenay-sous-Bois on the outskirts of Paris reported experiencing daily gang rapes in the high-rise tower blocks, sometimes by scores of boys. One witness described 50 boys "queuing" to rape her.[11]
>>61154865
Wait ... That was in the UK, wasnt it?
>>61154865
>asian
>>61154427
>EU-wide taxes to finance refugee providing
no, bye
>>61154427
>he agreed to the usage of regular army forces inside Germany; to deal with our new guests.
Sadly not in the way I'd recommend.
>>61154856
lol
If we don't have internment camps by the end of febuary, I'II go full partizan.
>>61155063
>Germany triggering Brexit
>more taxes
>>61154672
Look at the map. France and Germany are literally in the same boat. No reason to hate on each other.
this is such fucking typical german bureaucratic bullshit. instead of streamlining processes, just add another tax or benefit on the billions that already exist. also bullying the rest of the EU into doing bullshit they instigated for absolutely no reason.
fuck this gay shit
>>61155229
Relax. It serves a good purpose.
>>61154427
>deal with our new guests
>not to deal with upcoming riots and putchs
>in this shit Hans actually believe
>>61155263
Fuck you
>>61155334
Don't be so selfish.
>Year [Year]
>Not driving a hydrogen car
>Being dependent from the black arab cum jew.
>>61154815
Maybe your media is just not as incompetent as our.
>>61155511
kekeddy kek
>>61154427
What happened the old good Germans?!?!?
Come back, please
They fought for Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOnfV0-0apE
>>61155063
they need your money to pay for merkels mistakes and inability to fix germanys economy
dont be so islamaphobic. the "refugees" are just in high spirits. drunk on freedom. looking to sow some wild oats... in the asses of some kids. who are you to stand in the way of their dream
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>>61155149
>>61155149
>>61155149
>>61154427
fucking cunts
fuck the eu
>>61155637
The economy is actually good
Not for the large masses, ofc
But you are from the USA, so you get the deal
>>61155650
I liked Hans cuck in die Luft more
YA well no I ain't paying for your shit, fuck off.
>>61155347
Do you ever think he will get the permission to use the army inside germany? Will not happen.
To the tax thing: Schäuble is playing his own game. He is aware that Merkels is falling if this continues and he will be the next one in line. A tax for refugees is the perfect idea to turn up the heat for her.
>>61154427
>On another note, he agreed to the usage of regular army forces inside Germany; to deal with our new guests.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttt.
"to deal with our guests"
Like the police dealt with 1,000 strong throng of rapists: 8 arrests
Like the police dealt with pegida when someone from the German media threw a firecracker: 200 arrests, beatings, pepperspray
They're not protecting you from the Islamists, they're there to make sure you don't do anything TO the Islamists.
>>61154815
Seen as most European governments have already been covering up rapes its probably safe to say yours is to.
>>61155860
Thats not a bad train of thought, but - most of the people who protest against Merkel are equally sick if the other faces.
>>61155666
This fucking fuck EU. Seriously fuck off. I was massively pr EU, but it looks like EU has become Germany telling other countries what to do. FUCK OFF.
>>61155916
Nah we have a good network of far right information that would uncover it sooner or later.
>>61154427
>German Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU/CSU) is considering EU-wide taxes to finance refugee providing.
Not suprising. With the cvckening and all.
>On another note, he agreed to the usage of regular army forces inside Germany; to deal with our new guests.
Who will have no orders other than 'no touching! you're a show of force not an actual force'. This is the spoon full of sugar than makes those bluepills so easy for Germany to swallow. At least you ca tell you f a m in Swiss-land that your country's finally doing something.
I hope you have an EU-wide tax to buy rape kits and bodybags.
>>61155952
How is Slowenia, by the way?
>>61156029
we were better off before this whole eu blunder tbqfh familia
>>61154427
this motherfucker deserve loosing the remaing half of his spine
>>61154427
How to make people hate refugees 101
>>61154427
they are asking for an eu wide civil war
>>61155947
I agree, most of the people who protest. But still, many would still vote CDU also more and more will turn against Merkel. At the moment the majority is not protesting. Remember his avalance comment from last year- Wolfgang knows what he's doing. Step by step he will wait tills Merkels power base is erroded or the rest of the CDU would live with the fear that they will lose their voters to the AfD. It is soon time for a coup d'etat.
>>61155952
>but it looks like EU has become Germany telling other countries what to do
Situation was fine when germany paid for everything and demanded nothing. What sort of club did you think you join? The strongest nation will pay for all the other and don't have any national interests at all?
>>61156029
Rape free so far. I wouldn't agree with my fellow Slovene that we were that much better before EU, but to each it's own. People are so/so, wages are meh, but country is beautiful.
>>61154427
>to deal with our new guests
No, to deal with Germans.
>>61156170
Yes ofc.
Actually the tax is supposed to pay increased EU border patrol.
>>61156191
>but country is beautifu
not for long it isnt.
>>61154427
>German Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU/CSU) is considering EU-wide taxes to finance refugee providing.
Good.
>>61154427
Why is it German politicians and only German politicians have the audacity to demand EU-wide anything when it suits them?
No other member demands shit like taxes for everyone to solve their own problems.
>>61156170
Are you fucking kidding you fucking cunt? Germany is the biggest beneficiary of the EU
>>61156236
It never worked. This whole EU system can only work if we all skip the national states. Otherwise why for example should Slovenia pay for greece debts?
>>61156335
HAHAHAHA
>>61156247
RARE FLAG
>>61156306
Because try running the EU without Germany and guess how far you get
>>61156306
>to solve their own problems.
Check the map and tell me the fugees stepped first on german soil. It is pretty simple: Either the EU as a system is working, than no fugee should be able to reach germany or we do it with taxes or on national level.
>>61156374
wow nice rebuttal krautfag
>>61156385
NEWFAG
>>61156450
Germans will never, ever admit they build their success on the back of others,like they will never admit they destroyed Greece for monetary purpose.
>>61156335
Good one mate. It is quite funny: Everbody is thinking the other nation is taking all the profit in the EU. Let me tell you: We would like to do on our own, it is not that we profit from Slovenia (or many other european country).
>>61156385
No it is not
>>61156450
Do we wanted this Euro? You can got and blame france. What do you think happens if you put an export orientated economy on steroids?
Otherway round: Check how much the target2 money is worth from all the medicore economies around.
Does anyone know where I go in Germany to request my designated blonde breeder? I'd love to get one before the muzzies take them all, you German guys don't need them right?
>>61156426
You invited them all you daft bastard. If the first response had been to chuck a load of money at a fence on the EU's border and towed the boats back we wouldn't have this problem.
>>61156491
Well, all the upper half EU countries destroy the lower half for monetary purpose.
>>61156638
Nah France doesn't destroy anything, we're the next target of the German Vampire, check the new owner of a shitton of Greece airports and ports, most of them are German.
>>61156576
This
>>61154427
>EU wide taxation to fund Germany and Swedens scheme
That's a good joke. Not even France will agree to that. This is something he suggested to build up resentment of the EU.
>>61156335
exactly how pls.dont wanna say you are a liar but our evil knevel says the same so i am sceptical.
>>61156668
No generally Poland comes before you though there's not much
>>61154427
Can we just nuke Germany please?
>>61156559
>Do we wanted this Euro?
As a matter of fact yes.
>You can got and blame france
France is much higher than Germany on the anti-EU/euro list. Ireland and France were the only ones who voted no in 2005. Our most popular political party (the one that gets screwed everytime because other parties band together against the "evil far right") promotes leaving euro.
>>61156714
Well for an extreme example you can take a look at what German banks did to Greece
>>61156608
>You invited them all you daft bastard
UK, pls. Did we invite them you stupid shit? Maybe they entered fucking greece and fucking italy and move through various other nations till they were at our doorsteps. Only then, and only then Merkel "let" them in. Every other nation on the way, especically greece fucked everything up and we are responsible?. Go to Rotherham and suck a paki dick.
Most countries are both benefittors and cvcks from the EU.
Germany, for example, can sell its shit much more efficiently - from Portugal to Bulgaria.
On the other hand, we everyone from Portugal to Bulgaria can come here and wagedump you.
Greece had the opportunity to lend much more money, as German and French banks vouched for it. In the other hand, now they pay the price.
Its a two-edged sword for most.
Exception would be Poland, which mostly benefitted by it. And Italy, as they only got cucked by if.
>>61156763
Merkel specially got on the media and asked them to come to Germany and said they would get citizenship. Is your memory so short??
>>61156390
well for one we wouldn't have all this refugee problem.
i hope this tax idea is the next/final nail to eu's coffin.
>>61156491
well it was your own fault since mitterand fucked us over and took our glorious deutsche mark.
>>61154815
you do, but your government/media covers it up
>>61154427
>to deal with our new guests
>guests
A big surprise awaiting you in future, Hans.
>>61156755
No, we did not want the Euro. Some in our industry, maybe. But the Euro was the price we had to pay for the re-unification of germany (Kohl-Mitterrand). They did not ask us if we would like to get the Euro, in fact the D-Mark was quite popular. No need to stir up the past, but germany did not wanted a common currency.
>>61156763
>expecting a bankrupt southern euro country to be able to deter them alone
>>61156825
>and took our glorious deutsche mark
The € is literally annexed on the former DM faggot
>>61156814
Pardon my typos & errors britfags, written from smartphone with German autocorrect.
I respect your elegant and easy language.
>>61156818
>Merkel specially got on the media and asked them to come to Germany and said they would get citizenship.
No. Never. Really without joking, she never said this. Feel free to provide me a somehow reasonable source.
>>61156859
That is right.
The Euro was originally a French condition.
>>61155070
I seem to recall the German army telling Merkel to fuck off last time they tried that
>>61156859
>But the Euro was the price we had to pay for the re-unification of germany (Kohl-Mitterrand).
nonsense, it was Kohl who forced everybody to accept it in order to open the markets for German exports
http://www.gegenfrage.com/helmut-kohl-habe-den-euro-wie-ein-diktator-eingefuehrt/
>>61156871
Yes. They could have asked for help, but they refuse till the vary end. They wanted to "manage" on their own. You can check that it was even discussed to stationed frontext units against greeces will because they still fuck everything up.
>>61156818
>said they would get citizenship
Never happened
>Germany imposing taxes on Europe for Merkel's beloved refugees.
I can't wait for this to fail.
I mean what is our government thinking?!?
>>61156859
tell us one shit-tier decision that the majority of the german people wanted in the last couple of years.
>euro
>multiculti
>energiewende
>demokratieabgabe
democracy as rule of the people is a fucking joke in germany.
>>61154427
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKING GERMANY, WE ALREADY HAVE THE HIGHEST TAXES IN EUROPE AND NOW YOU WANT US TO PAY EVEN MORE!? HOW THE FUCK ARE WE GONNA SURVIVE IF THE FUCKING STATE TAKES 95% OF OUR INCOME!? FUCK YOU MERKEL! FUCK YOU EU! AND FUCK YOU SWEDISH GOVERNMENT!
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE WELL EDUCATED ENGINEERS AND ROCKET SCIENTISTS YOU PROMISED US!? WE NEED WORKERS FOR OUR AGING POPULATION YOU SAID! MOST HAVE UNIVERSITY EDUCATION YOU SAID! WHY DO YOU FUCKING LIE ALL THE TIME!? FUCKING CUNTS!
YES I'M FUCKING MAD!
>>61156915
http://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-1053603.html
>We can do it. That's the message Chancellor Angela Merkel has been giving her country ever since she pledged in late August to provide refuge to anyone coming from Syria in addition to others seeking protection from violence and warfare.
Is that good enough? I remember spitting out my coffee too and thinking your country is fucked when she said it on the news. Your leaders specifically invited them.
>>61157017
But they will.
>>61156955
>The Euro was originally a French condition.
no, it was not, neither did the French want the € convergency criteria Kohl proposed. The € mainly is a German project to dominate the EU domestic market.
>>61157027
"Wir schaffen das!"
>>61157067
man i fucking hate Angela Merkel
>>61154427
The BW wanted to help from the start, like help with registration of refugees and other things.
Well German law and shit.
>>61156997
>http://www.gegenfrage.com/helmut-kohl-habe-den-euro-wie-ein-diktator-eingefuehrt/
Your source do not support your statement.
>>61156859
you maybe didnt want it and suck more the dollar dick, so speak for your self afd shill. I want the euro.
>>61157037
Yes, a majority of EU project is not democratic legimitated, thats why it is not stable.
>>61157010
>They could have asked for help,
fucking moron. We asked for help, you respond "fuck it they're your responsability, we don't want to change the rule" until last year. And now it's our fault.
Oh, the irony.
>>61154427
kek. It may be worth paying from our perspective just to watch western leftists who hate us so much choking on their "Fellow human beings in need of help" for longer. Cologne is just the beginning.
This suggestion can't possible become reality
i doubt any country would actually support this
>>61157133
He is a AFD nazi shill, what are you expecting.
Its not about the truth its about shilling and fucking shit up.
>>61157210
It's not serious. It's meant to create anger.
>>61157105
>Schäuble wants EU wide taxes
>Merkel totally expects all EU countries to cooperate
>they won't
>we pay 1,60 for a litre of petrol
I see it coming.
>>61154427
Der Herr Schäuble kann sich mal gepflegt ins Knie ficken gehen.
Unsere Armee ist praktisch nutzlos und Ich freue mich schon auf den nahenden Bürgerkrieg.
Volk steh auf und Sturm brich los!
.
>>61154427
Ok, bye then
>being cucked by the Euro
>being cucked by Shengen
>being cucked by the migrant horde
Nah, don't fancy it 2bh lads
>>61157067
Honestly not really, because they have their own spin. Merkel did not tell them to come all the germany, and surley not mentioning anything (!) about citizenship. It is right that she said multiple times "We can do it", but this cannot translated as "come all here" it is adressed to the german audience.
>>61157092
>The € mainly is a German project to dominate the EU domestic market.
No. Lean your own history.
>>61157133
maybe you would read it? Nowhere it is said "Mitterand forced s to introcuce the €". It was Kohl who did.
>>61157281
You invited them. It's entirely your problem. Not ours. Choke on them.
They'll be going back soon I hope
>>61154427
Ha haha haa ha!
Fucking Germany. I'd like to see your finance minister pull that shit on the UK.
Brexit is coming. I can't wait until we leave the EU shipwreck.
Most Brits HATE the EU. Fucking Germans trying to tell us what to do..
>>61157161
You like sucking dick, eh? Either dollar or euro.
How about the D-Mark, did you forgot?
>>61154427
wow "ministers" agree that EU countries should pay for GERMANY/EU army, how shocking
lets face it, they are going to get the army they so desire and all tho disagree and revolt will be dealt with
muslims will be forced upon you, no questions asked by the army
thats why police isnt allowed to do anything, to force army into the country to do the biddings of EU JUST LIKE THE COMMUNISTS
I TOLD YOU BRO, THEY WANT ARMY, NOW THEY ARE GATHERING FORCES SO SOON THERE WILL BE COMMUNISM ON ALL WHO DID NOT WANT IT
ITS WORLD WARS ALLOVERAGAIN
EU is literally the enemy, they do not deserve trust even one bit
>>61157296
>No. Lean your own history.
it is the factual situation. It is you who has to do the learning here.
>>61157191
>fuck it they're your responsability, we don't want to change the rule
Germany don't make the rules. There was and is no majority to change them and you are pretty much aware of this fact.
All this is going to do is push more British voters to vote "out" and then we'll see the house of cards that is the EU collapse.
>>61154427
Like I've been saying
enforced multiculturalism -> destruction of the society and nations -> totalitarian regime
all goes according to a plan
>>61157255
Goodbye.
>without UK, there will be less money for the EU to spend
>which means poor countries will get less subsidies
>add to that a million Poles in UK suddenly needing work permits and having to return home
This can only be good ....
>>61154585
He is smart, this will increase pressure in Merkel.
>>61157221
>about the truth
>the truth
Helmut Kohl der Diktator. Not further questions needed. Go, educate yourself.
Daily reminder that "We can do this"!
So, he's asking the rest of Europe to show their solidarity even though Germany is in this shit due to its own bad decisions?
And he's the guy that turned down the Greeks ?
This should be fun.
>>61157374
yep
>>61157397
Then don't whine about "we don't ask for help" retard.
>>61157391
Calm down, Goy
>>61157304
Yes, your source "proposes" that Kohl introduced the Euro like a dictator. Nothing in this source contradicts the statement who forced Kohl in the first place.
>>61154938
UK has a terribly high number of Pakistani rape gangs. Just google Rotherham sex gang and at the bottom of the wikipedia page they list around 5 more sex gangs. If you click on those pages, they each link to a host of other Pakistani sex gangs.
>>61157491
Germans are the biggest dindu nuffins here, they cause shit everywhere and then blame anyone else. Leaving the EU and € zone would be the best option for you.
>>61157322
>You invited them
The fuck we did. As if we are responsible for the this EU-fuck-up.
>>61157401
So maybe that was the point of this statement? To destabilise the British narrative.
The British want a strong hand in their regotiation with the EU of the terms of their membership. Their leaders dont want to leave however. If you check the bbc the last couple of weeks every single day they run a story about the refugees Fucking things up.
The german lad wanting to tax them either wants them to leave or wants to scare them into thinking the germans don't care if they leave.
>>61157592
Your leaders are on the record as having invited them. You elected those leaders. There is no refugee crises. Just what you have organised.
>>61157567
>UK
To be honest I suspect it's not just us but we are the only ones where it's now been exposed.
Everyone knows the game, they act the same all over Europe.
>>61157592
You fucking did, you are responsible, you dumb ass.
>>61157377
You need to seperate these two timelines. The EURO was meant as a project to put germany in a tight economic fence. (the beginning) While we did better than competing nations, our export industry is supported by the Euro. Nevertheless, we did not want to introduce a common currency in the first place.
Europeans fighting each other in this situation?
Really?
>>61157436
Everything you wrote in your post is incorrect.
Apart from
>without UK, there will be less money for the EU to spend
Fucking good. UK wants the EU to collapse. FUCK THE EU AND FUCK GERMANY
>>61157656
>You elected those leaders
who have been antiimmigration for like 15years.
there was no way anyone could have anticipated this 180°
>>61157491
That's a point. But: Then this whole EU-project is doomed, because we cannot to agree to do someting for our common good.
>>61157557
no one forced Kohl to do it, particularly not the French, what is so difficult to understand here?
There is no reason why France would enforce the €, France benefits way less than Germany does, the € convergency criteria were created to make the € as stable as the DM, certainly nothing France liked.
>>61157721
We are all united against the germans now I think.
>>61157570
I hope we can get off this fucking euro too, I'm full of german's shit.
>>61157741
They say one thing then do the other. You still elect them. Your nation is responsible for this.
>>61157656
>Your leaders are on the record as having invited them
Again not. We did not invite somebody. Truth is: We have a low level asylum law in our constitution with no maximum level. This is the current state and there is no easy way to change this.
>>61154427
They are going all out. Noone will vote for that.
>>61157669
No, we still did not do it.
>>61157788
wow so we should have voted for refugees welcome party because they say one thing then do the other and would go full kebab removal mode
pls ireland put the whiskey bottle away
>>61157659
>>61154938
Rochdale sex trafficking gang
Derby sex gang
Oxford sex gang
Bristol sex gang
Telford sex gang
Peterborough sex abuse case
Banbury sex gang
Aylesbury sex gang
Keighley sex gang
Thousands and generations of white girls have been raped. Some of them were brutally murdered. Many were forced into giving birth to children produced by rape. Numerous girls committed suicide because they saw no other way out. It's horrific when you think about it.
>>61157809
I have already posted links to Angela Merkel asking them to come to Germany. She asked them, she does nothing to deter them, she tries to spread them all over the EU. Everyone blames Germany for your problems. We have no sympathy and do not see ourselves as a part of whatever you do to resolve it.
You are alone in this.
>>61154952
Pakistan is in Asia
>>61157757
>what is so difficult to understand here?
Because it is not the in line with the actual history. It is correct that France profits less (today) than germany, but at that time the basis for decision was different.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/historischer-deal-mitterrand-forderte-euro-als-gegenleistung-fuer-die-einheit-a-719608.html
>>61157809
full truth is this was illegal.
fucking merkel isnt the kaiser of the german reich and she cant just say " law is not guilty cuz muh feelings".
>>61157861
You drink more than us even with a huge population of non drinking Muslims. Maybe this is why your dicks are so soft and you can't make babies?
>>61157749
EU, as "Germany and the others", is already doomed.
I hope either for a true Union, with a true parlament and regulation, or two separate unions.
This mixed bag simply doesn't work.
>>61157912
That's for the sake of spin. The are from the middle east.
>>61157723
Oh, after the EU has failed, we'll build a smaller elite EU, with just Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg and Austria.
You will want to join because your banks will crave our money, but we won't let you.
>>61157906
>I have already posted links to Angela Merkel asking them to come to Germany
No, you simply can't understand your own source. Give me a citation from Merkel that she said everybody can come to germany and get citizenship.
>Cologne attacks: Migrant men banned from German swimming pool
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35326090
Nice one Deutschland
>>61157698
>You need to seperate these two timelines. The EURO was meant as a project to put germany in a tight economic fence. (the beginning) While we did better than competing nations, our export industry is supported by the Euro. Nevertheless, we did not want to introduce a common currency in the first place.
The strongest economic power in the EU can't be dominated by weaker economies, just look how back then FRG and NL wanted a strong e to support their export economies, and how France wanted a weak currency like they had with their France, to devaluate it if needed. (like Italy etc. too). We the people certainly didn't want the €, it were the elites who did.
>>61157920
Yes that is right, but the Dublin2 law was A.) broken and disfunctional before B.) Not possible to deport them in this masses.
But in general you are right.
>>61157989
>>61157996
She said everyone can come to Germany I have proven that. They will get citizenship in time. The same as the turks. You were lied to about them too.
>>61158054
It's pretty clear that they had to pass through eastern euro countries to reach Germany. You could just deport them on that alone. That was what dublin was about.
>>61157947
I fully agree with you on this point. It is not working and only rising hate between the nations, because Italy for example get all the refugees as a frontier state while germany is proteced. On the otherway round: German tax payer money is spent for greece or the eastern states.
This is all not working.
>>61156714
Germany is the biggest beneficiary of the EU and you're being delusional if you think it otherwise.
- Germany didn't become the #1 loaner out of kindness to other countries but to reap the absurd interest rates on the loans, germany is receiving almost double of what it lent to other countries.
- Germany's industry is also dependant on exporting most of its products to the eurozone, which with EU mandated quotas made germany's exports go through the roof while the industry of other countries suffered because we aren't allowed to compete
- Germany's banking sector ransacked billions of euros out of private and public european banks
- Germany made countries buy its tanks, submarines and guns when they didn't need to as an additional ''rule'' for the money lent. Meaning that those countries need to pay germany for the maintenance and the loan.
I could go on... Germany isn't the only one doing this but it's the main country doing it, the eurozone benefits Germany greatly hence why it's so keen on maintaining it and making sure no country leaves it :)
>>61157989
>implying all the muzzies won't turn you into caliphate tier third world country by then
you'll be lucky if you'll be able to afford bread.
once eu crashes muzzies will quickly lose welfare money, then they'll riot and you'll have a long, bloody civil war against them and the state police/army which will still defend them.
once you're suppressed, they'll start printing money for welfare, and it'll inflate so much pre-nazi germany will be nothing.
>>61158004
Well, they got their weak currency. But I agree, we as the citizen never wanted the Euro.
German politicians are talking about "an opportunity" to fix their demographic problem and get workers in the economy. Of course they plan to give them citizenship so they can work*
*ficki ficki
>>61157758
Feels kinda nostalgic.
>>61157989
mfw
>>61158207
We just have to get the Russians involved.
>>61158144
He is right.
>>61157996
She said that everybody from Syria will get asylume.
Suddenly everybody was Syrian.
She should have anticipated that, but she didn't.
>>61158117
Dublin was meant for Asylum seekers. Asylum laws where NEVER designed for mass migrations.
Yes, we could deport them. In this regard, we should have put >1M fugees in greece? Where is the destination to deport them? Send them back to Syria?
There was NO change to defuse this by deporting anybody.
>>61158063
Stop laughing. We will take all the switzer gold
>>61157989
>but we won't let you.
No fucks given. We already have our Anglo bros.
Fuck the EU, and fuck any smaller 'elite' (lol) EU.
We'll team up with Ireland, Denmark and Poland and smaller East European states like Hungary.
Poland HATES the EU as much as we do. Denmark and Ireland are coming round.
>>61157913
>Because it is not the in line with the actual history. It is correct that France profits less (today) than germany, but at that time the basis for decision was different.
France never profited from the €, they neither have the industrial output and export interests. The € convergeny criterias were made according to Bundesbank criterias from the beginning on, opposing French ideas of a currency that could be devalued easily. If France and Italy, not FRG and NL had created the €, there would be a much higher inflation by now.
I know this Spiegel article, it proves nothing, also it is clear political union does not necessarily mean a currency union.
>>61155263
Fuck off Hans.
>>61157989
Piss off, Fritz.You are probably going to steal our bikes again then.
>>61158228
Whats ironic:
Then, Europe united against Germany for being too right and militaristic.
Now, because Germany is too leftist and utalitarian.
Guess you just cannot please anyone.
>>61158241
What happened is exactly what she wanted to happen, spezi.
Two weeks wild general strike by the german working population and this entire government would be on an airplane to USA/Israel.
How the fuck can anyone be so stupid and get up in the morning, go to work, pay their taxes to these crooks? Germans work 3 weeks a months for others, 1 week for themself, that's how high the taxes already are.
I thank God that he made me smart enough to never feed the ZOG machine. At age 35 I have never worked a day in my life and never paid direct taxes to these crooks.
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>>61158144
QFT
there is no coincidence those countries that deindustrialized themselves now suffer the most from German imports, e.g. Portugal and Greece. The only remedy for them would be leaving the € zone, introduce their own currency, devalue it to make imports more expensive and exports cheaper, this is the only way to be competitive again.
>>61158144
>germany is receiving almost double of what it lent to other countries.
No. First: Seperate between private banks and germany. Second, germany as a nation gurantees for way more money than we get back.
>>61158144
>we aren't allowed to compete
You can't. Thats the fact. It is pretty simple we had a strong export and than we switched to the Euro. No need to cultivate a victim complex here.
>>61158144
>Germany's banking sector ransacked billions of euros out of private and public european banks
If a bank provides for example greece a loan, it was pretty pretty dumb to think they they will later not try to get it back. >>61158144
>Germany made countries buy its tanks, submarines and guns
You can decide where you want to buy. Many countries decides to buy american products. Again, nobody forced you take the products.
>>61158263
So pay the money to put armed guards on the roads and fields of eastern euro countries.
You won't. You want them in germany for economic reasons. Your society will suffer.
>>61158129
exactly, having a single currency without a single economic plan is what fucked up EU. (this, and letting in literally everyone without making strict control. Greece shouldn't be a member by all means).
>>61158263
Dublin was a deterrent. The numbers coming to Europe spiked massively when Merkel came out and said she wouldn't enforce it. All of a sudden, people who were previously choosing between life sleeping in a tent in Greece and life sleeping in a tent in Turkey were given a third option of government money and an apartment in Germany.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guests
Someone send these people a dictionary.
>>61158461
>At age 35 I have never worked a day in my life
Uhm ... Congratulations?
>>61158315
Sadly we are coming around to leaving with you. With Germany acting like such a tyrannical retard there is nothing for us in the EU.
>>61154427
German politicians shilling for more federalism? Stop the presses!
>>61158241
No, what she said was that the single verification of asylum applications was for a limited time not enforced. For the simple reason that due to the masses it could not been checked anyways.
>>61157391
>tumblr
>>61158194
>Well, they got their weak currency. But I agree, we as the citizen never wanted the Euro.
It is not weak compared to what the Italian Lira, or Spanish Pesetas were. We can speak about a weak € the day we pay 200€ for a bread or something like that.
>>61154427
>On another note, he agreed to the usage of regular army forces inside Germany; to deal with our new guests.
>Schäuble wants Germany to become as oppressive and bad as America
Holy shit, he's doing his damndest to even go beyond what the refugees are doing.
>>61158343
Let's agree to disagree. I know that there are elements of the Euro which can be tracked back to the D-Mark. But right now we do have a devalued currency and doing might fine.
>>61157757
>no one forced Kohl to do it
But this is exactly what happened. If kohl hadn't decided to bring the european countries together to the table and agree on an european union and force the € on everyone then there wouldn't ever be a united germany again. That was the deal. Fall of the berlin wall in exchange for the EU.
>>61158547
We are probably leaving too if the UK does. No point in continuing to pump money into the EU just for Germany to tax us even more while bossing us around while we pay the most per capita.
>>61158430
You are just the modern version of right wing now.
Right used to be soldiers marching abroad, now it's immigrants marching into your factories.
>>61158541
What are you even doing browsing pol on saturday? Go work and pay your taxes like a good goy, Hans
>>61158646
It would be funny if the EU became the "No Germany club"
>>61158479
Italy, the problem is that at that time point Merkel has the option to take the burden for germany or let the eastern states explode. This has nothing do to with sinister plans for a cheap workforce. The truth is we have way and way less low payed jobs and still due to the EU we have too many applicants right now. There was no need to import further ones.
>>61158626
Where do you see the devaluation here?
Let's face it, the € is the ideal tool to suck the other EU members dry.
>>61158737
Can we all get together and vote to kick Germany out?
>>61158503
I just can agree to your points. Maybe if we try different "Eu-Zones" it will work better and decrease the tensions between our nations.
>>61157757
The only ones who profit from the euro and from open borders are banks, 'cosmopolitan' billionaires, drug cartels, human traffickers, and jews.
Any republic without a strong monarch figure at the helm that holds the oligarchs in check sooner or later destroys itself. It happened to the Roman Republic, it happened in Weimar, now it's happening with the BRD. The banks and oligarchs did the exact same shit they are doing now in Weimar, international free trade, no regulations for banks, and it always ends up in a shitstorm.
>>61158742
>le colour blind meme.
>>61158524
They started also before and at the same time Russia for example joined the Syrian-Bombing club. Also, turkey can and could control the valve how many are entering EU nations. Merkel at time point should have deported them back to greece? Greece was/failing under normal conditions.
>>61158772
We can't. We can only all vote to leave and then form a new union using much the same rules. Minus Germany of course.
>>61158631
>But this is exactly what happened. If kohl hadn't decided to bring the european countries together to the table and agree on an european union and force the € on everyone then there wouldn't ever be a united germany again. That was the deal. Fall of the berlin wall in exchange for the EU.
That is an unconfirmed theory, also Kohl simply could not force France or Italy to join the € zone. All these treaties, Maastricht etc. were made without asking the people here.
>>61158749
I see the devaluation after the EZB decisions.
>>61158845
Pay the Greeks to do it. They need the money and you CLAIM to want to control your borders. You don't really though.
>>61158737
>It would be funny if the EU became the "No Germany club"
Not that bad idea, we whould do good on our own and you can decide who pays the next time for greece in your own club.
>>61158461
Why am I not suprised that /pol/acks are Hartzer?
>>61158772
>Can we all get together and vote to kick Germany out?
We actually would like to leave. You can sure manage on your own, you have a good reputation of managing empires...
Ahahahaha now even if you wanted to do something to defend yourselves, the cops will gun you down and protect your invaders
cucked.
>>61157904
>mfw reading that list.
>mfw none of them are in Scotland.
>>61158928
Greece can stay with you. We wouldn't have them and you can't kick them out of the current EU which would just be you and them at that point. Your incompetent side kick like in a cartoon.
>>61158818
What's your point? Everything a big german conspiracy?
>>61158988
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/alert-over-scottish-link-to-asian-1091757
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/562593/Groomers-victims-failed-system-Glasgow-exposes-Rotherham-style-gangs-child-abuse
when the eu goes down for good, there will be blood
an ill-fated organization from the beginning, really
unfortunate
>>61158902
Greece did not want to have them, and if you don't want to use your army there is no way to force them. Camps for >1M in greece? Not a possiblity and simply also not wanted by greece.
>>61158461
>At age 35 I have never worked a day in my life and never paid direct taxes to these crooks
>>61158816
>The only ones who profit from the euro and from open borders are banks, 'cosmopolitan' billionaires, drug cartels, human traffickers, and jews.
I don't disagree, I just wonder why you think Jews had a bigger influence than freemasons and Christian elites.
>Any republic without a strong monarch figure at the helm that holds the oligarchs in check sooner or later destroys itself.
republic and monarchy are mutually exclusive. We call ourselves republic without being one, and it seems ppl are happy with their feudalistically organized plutocracy.
> It happened to the Roman Republic, it happened in Weimar, now it's happening with the BRD.
you make it sound like the FRG were at the brink of collapse. They have learnt much from the downfall of the GDR and know how to prevent any change.
>The banks and oligarchs did the exact same shit they are doing now in Weimar, international free trade, no regulations for banks, and it always ends up in a shitstorm.
I have no idea why you compare it with Weimar, the situation was different alltogether, today there is no ideological battle of the fringes, today plutocrats don't support a political opposition, today ppl are not begging for 5 pennies in order to buy some pickled cucumbers.
>>61159016
There is no conspiracy. Money and power are not conspiracies. What germany is doing makes perfect economic sense however what you are doing is essentially gassing your own culture and people for money.
>>61159010
>Your incompetent side kick like in a cartoon.
I guess, we can do might fine with greece alone if we can get rid of some outher countries. Did you not also had some financial problem in the last time and required EU help?
I want to fight in Germany along side Germans.
>>61159083
Shoot at them like a sovereign country would. They won't come.
>>61157436
>without UK, there will be less money for the EU to spend
>which means poor countries will get less subsidies
More like the EU will force those who stay in to pay more to cover the loss. The EU has no idea how to 'spend less'
>>61158895
>I see the devaluation after the EZB decisions.
I am not saying there is no devaluation at all, but at no point it is as strong as it had been with the Lira Draghi used to deal with back then.
>>61158474
Fucking moron, germans are being vernichtet durch arbeit nazi style, no greek or spanish or italian would lift a finger to work for the kind of wage and under the labor conditions the germans slave themself out.
Germans are the slave caste of europe, they have to work 24/7, cant afford to raise kids or have family because both men and women have to work. Extermination through labor, part of the genocide-germans program of the ZOG regime.
The european central bank prints 60 billion euros a MONTH, that money goes straight to the people of spain, greece, italy, france (only to their upper middle and upper class of course) so they can buy german products. On top of that they recently discovered that France and Italy printed another 500 billion euros for themself just because, why not? Who's gonna stop them from doing it?
You know how many euros the germans print for themself?
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You pay for all this money printing with INFLATION, Hans, INFLATED house prices, INFLATED prices on EVERYTHING. The price for the cheapest noodles with tomato sauce - all that a german low wage laborer can realistically afford - just went up from 69 cents to 99 cents in my local supermarket. A new fucking personal record for me.
YOU WORK AND CREATE PRODUCTS FOR CHINA LEVEL WAGE AND CHINESE WORK CONDINTIONS, HANS
FRENCHMAN AND ITALYMAN PRINT MONEY AND BUY THE PRODUCTS YOU CANT AFFORD
AND FRENCHMAN AND ITALYMAN ALSO BUY THE HOUSES AND APARTMENTS IN YOUR COUNTRY THAT YOU NO LONGER CAN AFFORD WITH YOUR CHINA LEVEL WAGE, HANS
>>61159138
>What germany is doing makes perfect economic sense
Other nations like Spain have a huge workeforce a rate of unemployed skilled workers. Why should we import them from Syria if we can get them from the EU-nations?
>>61159143
Ah yes the low imterst rates mandated by Germany when our economy was burning hot.
Definitely our fault. Also we had to take failed private banks on as public debt to prevent contagion to your banks.
You are so selfless germany. It seems without germany we don't need the EU for anything.
what the fuck? fuck the EU man, fucking whores. I dont want to pay extra taxes for germany, shit our taxes are already fucking me in the ass hard enough
EU needs to dismantled, this shit is getting out of hand.
>>61159175
>Shoot at them like a sovereign country would
Ireland, don't tell me A.) Something about mass-shootings at the borders B.)Something about a "a sovereign country". Get back your north and come back to whine.
>>61154427
>EU-wide taxes
>Germans want to impose taxes to the whole EU
How about a cup of go fuck yourself, Herr Schäuble?
How would you like if our finance minister will decide that all Germans should pay a MANDATORY ADDITIONAL tax to our farmers, who lost profits due to EU sanctions against Russia?
First mandatory refugee quotas from Merkel/Junker and now this. It's unbefuckinglievable. I'm already getting too much triggered for my own good and 2016 barely even started yet.
>>61159197
I agree. It is devaluated from a german point of view and to strong from a italian point of view.
>>61159204
Because a poor Spaniard won't leave sunny Spain to be poor in Germany. You want them up at 4 am to bake your bread for minimum wage.
Are you sure they arnt though? Ireland is swarmed with them. In dublin I hear french and Spanish and german everywhere.
