Hey Protestants,
How is it going to mass in your ramshackle "churches"? We catholics have build the most breathtaking cathedrals for the higher grace of God, but it seems praising the Lord is jot something Protestants are intersted in.
We aren't interested in praising saints papist scum.
>>61019789
>inb4 protestant says that spending donation money on grander churches which provide no additional benefit to members of the clergy is somehow greedy
Those fancy Catholic churches are made out of filthy rags.
>Protestants post 300+ posts of accusing Catholics of deifying the material and not giving to charity enough.
>Catholics point out that they give more to charity than literally anyone else on earth, that glorifying god requires beauty and art, and that the Old Testament Temple is a prototype of basically all their practices in this regard.
>Atheists like me admire the artwork.
We're in for a good thread. I can feel it.
Shouldn't you have fed the poor instead of building fancy churches?
Catholics really know how to praise the Lord, our faith mirrors in our magnificient places of worship. Meanwhile, Protestants in America pray in plywood huts. It seems they just dont care about God.
It's nice to be able to masturbate without worrying about offending Jesus, but yeah, the ceiling in the Vatican is pretty impressive. Me, I'm more interested in masturbating.
>>61020362
The poors are stil being fed, and we have those golden Altars. Meanwhile protestants spend neither money to build a nice church NOR for charity. They spent it all on themselves.
https://youtu.be/ZB_fgkA3W80
Giving up the time we've got to live a life completely
Giving over to the lust that rages in the mind
The Captain fills his place with gold while all the ship is sinking
Calls himself the Bishop-Prince and blood's his favorite wine
Gardens grow as people know and sense the smell of slaughter
Every soul and Saxon senses something's gone awry
The woman in the wilderness - the beast has nearly got her
Men surround the Bishop-Prince and sing their bloody cry
In the name of God you must die
All that's not our truth is a lie
The pearl is trodden underfoot into the muck and mire
We'll take the Roman Gods except the names will all be changed
The woman's fed by ravens and her feet are in the fire
Cold and bare she's holding there 1260 days
And the Captain calls
If they won't pay they'll soon be scratching the dungeon walls
From the highest height to the tenement halls - it's true
Look out we're comin' for you!
In the name of God you must pay your penance
If you don't well that's a crime
If you want to buy your way to heaven
We'll indulge you every time
Would you like to come
We'll eat in secret
My water's stolen but it's fine
If you want to know much more about me
Take a look in Proverbs 9
Mercy, mercy we're selling mercy
We are Christ and we'll bless you well
People crying Lord have mercy
But they've gone in through the gates of hell
It's true, look out we're comin' for you!
If you think the whore is only history
Are there those who teach her lies?
Wherever they believe what came out from her
The same spirit is still alive
Mercy, mercy we're selling mercy
We are Christ and we'll bless you well
People crying Lord have mercy
But they've gone in through the gates of hell
It's true, look out we're comin' for you!
but seriously the conservative Christians need to unite not fight.
Meanwhile, this is what American Protestants call their place of "worship". It's litteraly a shack. Shows how much you are willing to invest in Jesus.
>>61021864
Forgot pic
>>61019789
How many priests cocks have you had in your mouth? Its nice the trained you up for your new Muslim replacements.
>>61023117
T. His church seceded because his King was horny
>>61021968
looks comfy
>>61019789
>protestant churches are ugly maymay
enjoy your idol worship surrounded by stolen byzantine gold you papist fool
>>61019789
>Praying to or through Mary(whatever you guys do)
>Confessing your sins to a minister rather than to God himself
>The pope is the "Holy Father"
>Only is God is holy, no man can be holy like God
How can Catholics call themselves worshippers of God?
>muh big churches
>>61021864
>>61021968
Looks like you are more interested in the place where you can worship God that in the worship of God itself.
The important thing is worship and learn about God, no matter where you are.
Don't you think?
>Trying to cause more of a schism between Christians at a time when Muslims are running rampant through Europe
Schlomo pls.
![Hram-svetog-save-atipiks-beograd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5Gel7EC.jpg "Hram-svetog-save-atipiks-beograd[1].jpg")
>>61021968
God that looks terrible.
Greetings from an Orthodox Christian, we build pretty awesome churches too
>>61019789
>>61020453
>>61021013
Why do you have a huge, beautiful cathedral with thousands of seats for about 10 Catholics worshiping in it?
>>61024411
Amen
check'd
>>61024286
forgot pic of a grand protestant interior
The church isn't the steeple it's the people.
(this is a song we sung in my Lutheran church growing up and I still stand by it)
>>61024666
just ignore the obvious
>>61021968
This actually looks peaceful and church I would want to attend.
>>61021968
>>61019789
If Jesus came back. Which one would he preach in? Do you really think these massive rich looking buildings are really what Jesus had in mind?
>>61024660
a fucking stadium.
Big church little heart, big heart little church
Cultural cath saying that.
>>61019789
aren't those sorts of things specifically against the second commandment? God pretty clearly told us not to make visuals to help us worship.
>>61025050
big or small doesn't matter only its beauty.
>>61019789
Meh, that's the price of being newer. Less cheap labour around. As much as we all love grand cathedrals, do you really think God cares where we gather in His service?
>>61024336
>Praying to or through Mary(whatever you guys do)
Yes, praying through Mary or the Saints, because they pray to God for us as well.
>Confessing your sins to a minister rather than to God himself
How about doing both? The father can probably share some wisdom too.
>The pope is the "Holy Father"
The pope is not on the same level as God, as I understand it he is "first among equals" though this I disagree with aswell, no one should be first in the church other than God.
Big, beautiful churches have an impact, weather you like it or not.
>>61024725
yeap, plus, isn't "no vanity" like one of the ten fucking commandments?
>>61025037
Yep. Lakewood Church is the former Compaq Center.
It serves over 40,000 parishioners per week, I would think some of these beautiful ancient European cathedrals don't see that many attendants in an entire year.
>>61025474
God cares if you don't follow his will, we are being the best servant to God as possible.
>>61025208
Big
Beautiful
Astonashing
Amazing
>>61024589
Based/10
>>61025474
THIS, also!
>Trashing other christians while islam grows
>>61025665
And the only way to do that is to build a thousand year old cathedral?
People do what they can with what they have. What's the point of infighting, or denigrating your fellows?
>>61019789
Idolator
>>61026151
you aren't his follower if you do not do as he says, you are your own God.
>>61025662
>>61024660
You are everything wrong with Christianity today. A stadium as the house of God? Degrading, honestly. But since you have no tradition whatsoever I guess I understand.
>>61026386
Where in the Bible does it say to time travel and build some great Minster?
>>61026621
Because the stadium is unimportant, the Church is it's congregation.
Demonstrated by all of these cathedrals in this topic, beautiful, ancient, and friggin' empty. What use is such a grand monument to God if there are no faithful within it?
>>61025867
In this french cathedral it looks like almost heaven, brings you closer to God
I was traveling through a historic town on the East Coast, there were some lovely old churches inside the town, however outside of the town there were 6-7 protestant "churches" all of which were former bars or other small buildings. It was rather amusing.
>>61025497
>Yes, praying through Mary or the Saints, because they pray to God for us as well.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
John 14:6-7
Nobody will/can intercede between you and the Father but Jesus. No man is that worthy, only Jesus can.
>>61024589
Dont forget, the great Hagia Sophia was built by Eastern Christians, too. Too bad turks run it down
>european catholics>european protestants>catholics not from europe>protestants not from europe
prove me wrong
That cathedral looks very familiar, I think I've been in it. Is that the cathedral in Koln??
>>61027161
Amen brother
>>61027360
I prefer the Protestant "tool sheds". Modesty is a virtue
>>61027360
They dont have a dollar to spare for the churches or the poor, it all goes straight into the reverends prIvate jet or mansion.
>>61027161
Although, you can pray for another, right?
If you can pray for your brother, mother or father, then by all means Mary can pray for them as well, can she not?
>>61027360
Where are the Orthodox then?
>>61027556
True brother, it's a real shame what happened. One day the greatest Orthodox house of God will be restored though.
>>61027360
Most of Latin America is catholic
Most of the Anglosphere is Protestant
you are objectively wrong
>>61019789
>Churches
The church is only one: the Jesus's church. If you take pride on a building's ornaments then you should worry.
>>61027556
Damn forgot the pic, twice. HAagia Sophia was way ahead of its time. Yeah a shame those rabid, excommuncated wannabe crusaders weakened Byzantine so much and got us more divided
>>61027886
This is a battle between protestants and Catholics
![Park-Svetog-Save[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xXvvq75.jpg "Park-Svetog-Save[1].jpg")
>>61027556
One from my hometown
>>61028205
>>61027886
Orthodox Churches are not behind in glory tho. But look at American protestants. All toolshed chapels
>>61024578
>protestants
>christians
pick one
>>61028205
And I can respect Poland and even Serbia on this but Germany's not going to have a Catholic church in 20 years so the butthurt from that guy is astonishing.
>>61019789
Dunno papist. How ya doin?
>>61027161
Really man? we gave you 2 things a language and a religion why degenerate both?
>>61028352
Very nice. I really like the Iconastasis, and the Icon picture inside Orthodox churches. Whats hanging in those ramshakle prostestant chapels in America? Propably McDonalds advertisment
>>61027886
But why not talk with God himself? If Mary, as you said, pray for you... well that does not change anything, at the end God have the last word. Mary is irrelevant. She was an amazing woman, of course, but nothing more.
>>61029444
Are you kidding me? probable is KFC advertisment remember that prostestan is a negro religion too
Greetings, plebs
>>61029444
I just looked it up and Germany is only 30% Catholic, and of that 30% only 13% attend Sunday Mass.
So you're bragging about a bunch of buildings thrown up by a largely nonexistent organization, which explains why they're completely empty in every picture.
Britain has also already passed the tipping point where more people in the country attend Friday Mosque than Sunday Mass.
>>61019789
Lutheran here.
The Catholic Church is an organization, they take billions of dollars from people and on top of that believe in paying your way to heaven. They also worship idols, such as mary and saints.
Protestants worship Jesus, and go to heaven as long as they believe that Jesus died for their sins. And that they pray and ask for forgiveness for their sins. As well as don't have same sex or do bestiality.
You of all people should know this German, as the Catholics extorted money from the Germanic peoples all throughout the middle-ages.
>And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to YHWH
>And he said unto them, Thus saith YHWH God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Whatever Catholics and The Orthodox claim as motivation is irrelevant.
>>61029708
Looks like scatface built a brothel.
>>61029917
Confessions very by region, the north is protestant, the south catholic. I myself live in a heavily catholic city.
Hey Catholics, how does it feel to worship a virgin? How does it feel to know that your church is riddled with corruption, apostasy, pedophilia?
How does it feel to know that the real church of God is within us? And is not physical?
Watch this video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7aTnYz4r94o
Of course you won't because Catholics will swallow their pride and pray to their virgin gods
Pic related, my church
Conservative pastors, small but humble, just like Jesus would want.
>>61029615
>praying for other people doesn't matter
Protestants ladies and gentlemen
>>61030218
*Scarface, *vary by
>>61030283
>founded by a possessed scat fetishist who wanted to take books out of the new testament
>>61030376
>Thinking you can change the Will of God
>>61029444
I've been to Köln, München, Salzburg, and many other cities and I've always been amazed by the Catholic churches over there. You can practically feel the holiness surrounding the house of God.
>>61029615
You can, and you do. It's not the case of abandoning prayers to God. It's a matter of giving respect to these saints as well.
And Mary is definitely not irrelevant. As the Mother of God, she deserves praise too, not the same as God as there is no one who is the same as God but praise is due to others who have followed the word of God, and to those who are great role models for other Christians.
>>61030283
The only thing you're doing is spreading lies and blasphemy. Truly disappointing.
>>61029331
A church literally stolen from Catholics, these are the only respectable churches Protestants have.
All churches actually made by Protestants are either disgusting football stadium tier events or tool sheds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yAPaPvmUUY
Here's something for you all.
>>61019789
Don't worry, Muslimbro, inshallah they won't around much longer. And in conclusion, Allahu Akbar.
>>61030283
I like how the Bible says Joseph and Mary fugged after Jesus was born and Catholics somehow magically ignore it.
>Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
>And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
>And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son
>knew her not till
>till
Silly Catholics.
>>61030633
Doesn't matter who started my church.
I worship God. I don't worship Luther, Calvin, zwingli, I don't kiss icons, I don't worship Mary, I don't worship idols
>>61030759
Loving God and following the bible is not a sin.
I don't add unnecessary rituals to Christianity.
I heard orthodox have special rituals when someone masturbates in his sleep to heal their mana lr some shit
>>61030283
How does feel that any clown can be a televangelist to scam people for their money since there's no institution to regulate that?
Anyone can make a circus from god to fill stadiums and take money?
>>61030959
Extremly based. You orthodox christians have proper mass and holidays too. Meanwhile, in protestant masses,you cannot feel a connection to God or anything holy.
>>61030726
>sola scriptura
>doesn't even follow scriptura
James 5 16
>>61019929
Heretic.
>>61031285
>Doesn't matter who started my church.
Really? Because Jesus founded my church. He certainly wasn't a possessed scat fetishist.
>>61031444
I feel great because I am not one of those southern Baptists.
Also you act like the Catholic church hasn't scammed itself through history
>>61031444
They rather pay for the teleevangelists private jet, than buildkng a proper curch or feeding the poor.
>>61024411
> being this oblivous to any point whatsoever
>>61028844
>Believe in the divinity of Christ and that he is the Son of God
>Not Christian
I have more reason than most to hate Protestants, but they're still Christians.
>>61031787
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7aTnYz4r94o
>>61019789
Many protestant churches have a simplistic and elegant beauty to them.
>>61030376
I didn't said that my friendo.
I can pray for you, knowing that Jesus will intercede with the Father... at the end God has the last word.
>>61030759
>It's a matter of giving respect to these saints as well.
Respect? yeah! why not? Most of them died sharing the message. But they are not worth enough for worship. Only God deserve such thing.
>Mother of God
>Mother of God
Mother of Jesus. Nothing more, respetable woman of course, she fullfill her mission. But nothing more.
>>61030809
That church was built by Englishmen, fag. The Englishmen made the English Church. They were always "bad" Catholics in they never gave a shit what Medieval superstitious bullshit Rome came up with.
Anglicans and Eastern agree that Rome's most prolific skill was making up shit and keeping peasants illiterate enough to buy it.
>>61032173
>Jesus isn't God
This is new levels of heresy.
>>61028953
What do you mean? South Germany is catholic
ITT Catholics, Protestants and Orthodoxs fighting between each other.
Stupid fucks focus your rage on the true enemy: Islam.
>>61031625
Does that passage overrule God being omniscient?
>>61031938
One faith
One Lord
One baptism
Anyone outside of this is not a Christian.
>>61031964
>identifying the true church
I don't need a Youtube video to do that, I can just look at the creed.
>one
>holy
>catholic
>apostolic
How many times have the Lutherans split off from each other again?
>>61032280
>Anglican
You mean the ones who almost had a schism just this week because half of you American Anglicans believe God condones gay marriage? Hardly a model of Christianity m8.
>>61019789
>>61019966
>>61020160
>>61020453
>>61021013
>>61021568
>they said while sacrificing a goat to marry and sending their monthly prayer bill to the pope (pbuh)
>>61031285
I get where you are coming from, but at least try to understand.
We do not perform idolatry. We do not "worship" Mary, as we acknowledge God is above all else. We do not perform special magical rituals. The Orthodox church is the most unchanged church, quite similar to what Jesus and his initial followers preached. Catholicism mostly differs in hierarchy and some principles, although no one deviates more from the original teaching than you protestants.
What is wrong in kissing icons? When I pray to God I cross myself and kiss my cross afterwards too.
>>61032173
Giving respect does not equal worship. They are of great importance as they have helped in spreading the word of God, and these men are not worthy of respect?
>Jesus not being God
I don't think I have anything to say to that.
>>61032323
What? No it isn't. It's a very old level of heresy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism
>>61032361
>South Germany
>white
All the golden hair and eyebrow with piercing blue eyes and nordic skull are in northern germany. as that place was unraped by allies after ww2. South germans are bull headed, darker skinned, peasant germans.
>>61032414
Not relevant to the matter at hand.
>>61032173
>Jesus is not God
sup jehovah's witness
>>61032600
>All the golden hair and eyebrow with piercing blue eyes and nordic skull are in northern germany.
What, you're actually surprised that nordics are in the north?
>>61032455
>American Christianity
If anyone isn't Christian, it's you cunts. However, we have bigger problems than you faggots because Islam is knocking on everyone's doors and everyone's too busy fighting to kick them off our property. Also, try not to redefine words with established definitions. It makes you look silly.
>>61032379
He's right though. Islam has the most god awful places of worship after all.Look at what tacky hotle they built on their "holiest" site.
>>61030283
Prots can't realize the heirarchy and authority is needed despite human flaws
![RO%20Cathedral%20Michael%20email[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YBj0XbK.jpg "RO%20Cathedral%20Michael%20email[1].jpg")
>>61032539
Pic related - My patron Saint (Slava)
>>61032543
I actually met a self proclaimed Arian the other day.
I didn't know whether to pray for him or kick his fucking teeth in. I'm Orthodox but apparently you Catholics didn't do enough burning at the stake because there's an awful lot of heretics still running around
>>61032543
I meant for this Mexican in particular.
>>61031207
Taking words translated 10 times at face value without deeper examination
>>61032379
>Accept some mad English king make his own religion
>Let lutherans and their nigger churchs
>Bent to pray for Allah and his prophet Mohammed(PBUH)
Is all the same
>>61032841
>dividing the church up by nationality
top protestant. I'm a Christian, all else is irrelevant.
>>61032786
>Not relevant to the matter at hand.
Kinda is. As again, implying that a mortal, or really anything else can change the Will of God, like He was some human on a whim rejects the notion of omnipotence.
Seems like more of a pagan concept.
>>61021864
>>61021968
honestly, it's not as if most catholic churches in america are any better
>>61032532
The only reason your fags gave the Episcies 3 years (in hopes that the rest of the church would sign on for the poopdick crusade) was because my denomination (ACNA) was pushing the issue. We're going to drag you Anglocucks out of the fire by the collar, kicking and screaming with every inch.
>Christ's entire life was centered around humility
>let the man in charge of Christ's religion wear a crown and live in a castle as a king
>>61033201
This. Protestants are just as much the enemy as Islam. They're even more insidious in fact because they profess to be what they are not.
>>61032280
the church was built by english catholics who were persecuted by kike prods.
>>61033041
You could have just tried refuting him?
Shame there aren't more Pelagians still about.
>>61033091
Righto. I just wanted to try and sound clever.
>>61026984
can we all take a moment to laugh at the snownigger pagans who never even had anything except mud huts. Why wotan! why!
>>61033380
>papacy made up in middle ages
>same with transubstantiation
>EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE IS A HERETIC
Google patristics faggot.
Too bad "God" isn't real you superstitious fucktard.
>>61032600
Soviets werent in South Grrmany though, dont know what you're onto. At least not where Im from. And it was especially the Prussians who got raped.
>>61033434
The English Church all left the faggoty Catholic Church which had adopted medieval superstitions because they were ruled by wogs in Rome.
Any other independent Baptist here? We are humble followers of Christ, not like those televangelist that scam gullible people out of their money.
>>61032908
And they couldn't even build that shit on their own.
>>61032323
>>61032539
>>61032786
ok my bad...
The concept of "Mother of God", implies that God was created... by a mother... denying the tittle of God.
Now Jesus is God, of course, but God needed a terrenal mother to be born as Jesus. This woman is the mother of Jesus, this woman at the end was a just woman. Nothing more.
>>61033680
The only reason England is Protestant is through force.
>>61033772
>The concept of "Mother of God", implies that God was created
No. It implies that at some point, god was born. A mother doesn't really create, she gives room for growth.
>>61021968
you seem to be more interrested in gold ceilings and massive statutes and idolisation of your pope, than praising god.
Look at the 10 commandments. You shall not idolise. But thats exactly what you are doing with mr pope. You are anti-christ right there.
>>61032600
South Germans pay the Welfare check for the Rest of the Republic, shut your mouth abo cunt.
>>61033494
>papacy made up in the Middle Ages
Wow, look, a legitimate retard. Papal primacy has been a thing since literally the founding of the Church. Even if you're Orthodox and don't believe in Papal primacy, they recognize the concept of primus inter pares (first among equals).
>>61033217
I'm Roman Catholic in Norn Iron m8. Don't cry about divisions in the Christianity while trying to divide Christianity. Makes you look a right spastic.
>>61033328
>Your
See above. Try to drag Anglicans into the fire of liberalism all you want. Doesn't affect me.
>>61033494
>you are peter (rock) and upon this rock I will build my church
>this is my body, this is my blood
Yeah, you're a heretic.
>>61033772
I have an adopted friend who calls the lady who adopted him "mother." Does this imply that she created him?
>>61032537
>>61021568
>>61032537
>Lesotho still bringing the bants to Canada after all these years
>>61033772
A semantic misunderstanding.
The Body of Christ was just an Avatara for the Almighty.
That body was begat by Joseph and Mary.
>>61034027
I don't think you understand the Pope's role in the Catholic Church or indeed have any idea how he's viewed.
>>61033271
Partially true but at least there's some good examples. Even my dumpy local parish has much more art than any prot church world
>>61019789
>insisting on christian divisions
there is only one church, the Christian church, and she is the bride of Christ.
Go back to Sanfliurfa, Ahmet.
>>61034355
fug, forgot the larger pic
>>61034060
If the early church was more like the prots, prots are right. It wasn't, so they're not. Empirical historical question
>>61034065
>Don't cry about divisions in the Christianity while trying to divide Christianity.
How am I trying to divide Christianity? There is only one church, anyone outside of it is not Christian.
2 John 1
10If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you. 11For he that saith unto him, God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works.
>>61034309
>taking this is my body, this is my blood literally
>in Metaphors: The Book
>implying the rock isn't Christ Himself
You may insult Islam for their insane beliefs, but even the jihads aren't literal cannibals
>>61034534
If you follow the teachins of someone besides jesus why luther instead of mohammed? Heretics are just one step up to mudslims
>>61033772
But if she gave birth to Jesus, she cannot be discarded as an ordinary woman! She is not only the Mother, but also the role model for women! She not only gave birth but raised Jesus too.
>>61034534
Things don't work that way, iako bih voleo da je tako brate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q8i0CYs-CM
>>61019789
Orthodox Churches are nicer desu
Not as watery and boring as Protestant Churches nor as extravagant or superfluous as Catholic ones
>>61034432
I understand that the pope lives and dresses like a king, and people worship him as a god.
This entire thread is representative of the reason why the west is losing to the moors/mongols/Islamic horde.
>>61034991
>Hey Luther! All of the Apostles took Christ literally when he said certain things. Does that mean we should too?
>lol no senpai even though we're 1,400 years removed from Christ I know what I'm talking about and our theology is correct
I hope mudslimes kill off all the Protestants left in Germoney desu senpai
>>61034412
>The Body of Christ was just an Avatara for the Almighty.
But that's heretical, you heretic.
self-restraint
virtue
>>61035427
this desu, prods preventing HRE from being 100% catholic for some years.
>>61035409
>valuing Western beauty and tradition
>"lol you're the reason we're falling!"
No, the West is falling because euphoric fedoras such as yourself gave up on your faith and your ancestors and paved the road for people who DO have faith to come over and bulldoze us.
>>61034432
I dont think you understand Christianity and its 10 commandments, and Jesus Gospel of thy shall not make idolisation of people. There should be one God and one only.
>>61034859
Again, stop trying to redefine words that have definitions already.
>>61035178
You don't know what worship means. I bet you think veneration is worship too.
Protestant here. For a small town in Iowa, I don't think the church I go to looks too terrible. Pic related, First United Methodist Church in Iowa City.
>>61034027
>2016
>expecting consistency from religion
>not expecting hypocrisy
Christianity is the least horrible theism, but it's still a load of shit that a bunch of people who wanted jobs and didn't feel like farming got together and made up.
>>61035178
Theres a concilĭum for every important choice. but who tells to your teleevangelist how to behave? for me the only kings are the ones who scam you to build a new yate Tyrone
>>61035618
See the post directly under yours. You're as clueless as the yank.
>>61035178
>lives and dresses like a king
Here is the Pope's apartment.
Meanwhile, let's look at all of the Protestant televangelicals who make literally millions and blow it on shiny cars, fancy suits, and giant houses. Fucking hypocrites.
>>61035664
nice
>>61021968
Your arguing for idolatry.
Daily reminder that the choir is the single most beautiful instrument to ever exist, and that if there is one thing that can approach God it must be the human voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRwhkBAeheM
I think everyone here from Catholics to atheists can agree that this is some beautiful stuff.
Also, who cultural/secular Catholic here?
Early Mormon temples are amazing.
For some reason the LDS church was heavily in cahoots with masons.
Literal masons. They actually cut stone.
>>61035788
the pope literally the leader of 2 billion Christians, less luxurious and wasteful than a single scam artist televangelist.
I want to be a missionary!
>>61035487
How? Or do you think God is/was actually a human?
>>61035788
They're like hookers with their pimp doesnt matter how hard he slaps and robes they keep spreading legs/wallets everytime they see him on TV
>>61035998
We need a king desu, republicanism is heresy.
>>61035586
>lowly citizen is responsible for the gross violations of power that modern leaders perform
No kuck we should be feeding the guillotines with the subversive Trojan horses in our nations.
>>61034020
>>61034309
Pretty much this >>61034412
>>61035136
Yeah, but I'm afraid.... at least here in Mexico... that Mary is worshiped at the same level as God.
As I said. respectable woman, an example of course. God himself chose her. But do not forget who deserve worship; God.
No matter how important a man or woman can be in their lifetime, only God is important. Only God deserve worship.
>>61035620
Yeah, totally not worship
>>61035664
Do you go to the U?
>>61036326
I wouldn't go that far; Republicanism is an excellent tool but I do agree that it must be toned down.
A balance between meritocracy and freedom, and hierarchy and order must be achieved.
>>61035620
This right here. The protestants seem to have Veneration, Respect, Praise and Worship all mixed up so they accuse us of idolatry.
>>61035409
Our civilization is build on christian values if we gave up our God why dont we let Ahmed fuck our women too?
>>61033178
Nice try faggot
>kαὶ οὐk ἐγίνωσkεν αὐτὴν ἕως οὗ ἔτεkε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτῆς τὸν πρωτότοkον, kαὶ ἐkάλεσε τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν.
Specifically "ἕως" means until in koine Greek.
A literal word for word translation of verse 25 is this:
>and not he was knowing her until when she have birth to son and he called the name of him Jesus
I'm sorry but Mary had normal relations with her Husband.
>>61034991
"‘I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.’ The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’" (John 6:51–52).
"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him" (John 6:53–56).
Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it? (John 6:60)
After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him. (John 6:66)
People like you existed back then, too.
>>61033201
ISIS will rekt your shit
>>61035788
Yes, what a humble life he lives
>you must listen to televangelist if you aren't Catholic
nice fallacy
>>61036388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrD7WMl9L4g
Here is a common praise to Mary
>>61036391
>Lie down while you pray to God
>This means you're worshipping the Pope
You worship every pastor you've ever had? I mean, you go to your knees, so obviously you must worship them, right?
>>61036391
That is simply a form of prayer that is not often used because of impracticality.
They are not worshiping the Pope, they're worshiping Christ because the Pope is the Vicar of Christ.
It's basically the same if Christ sent someone to talk to you, you would get on your knees and pray to Christ because you're sort of in His presence by proxy.
>I'm a Christian
>oh yeah? Catholic or Orthodox?
>bapitist
Protestantism was a mistake.
>>61035779
One shall turn towards Jesus Christ, not Pope.
As simple as that.
Its really very very simple to understand, dont make idols as Jesus Gospel is telling.
Pope is totally unneccessary and is there just to grab money, power and fame.
Turn away from fake idols and cut out the middle-man and instead turn directly to the source -Jesus Christ.
>>61036822
>posts pic of a dead pop
>>61036725
In fact the word's meaning hasn't changed in 2000 years.
>>61025662
>>61024660
Ah yes, a "Harvest" chapel. You can almost taste all those delicious souls...
>>61036655
>>61035586
Sorry for the lack of clarity (rushed thought).
I was referring to the infighting that is going on in here. Divide and conquer is a strong strategy.
>>61036391
If that's cool, then is this cool too?
>>61037065
>>oh yeah? Catholic or Orthodox?
who asks this?
Im Orthodox and when someone asks what type of Christian I am and I tell them they think I'm like an Orthodox Jew or something...
anime was an mistake - mozerela
>>61036822
His life is devoted to the catholic people. yet he IS A FUCKING PRINCE, you expect what from that? i hope the pope is living a really great life right now, srsly, i don't want my guide in this world to be suffering, only if for sanctification.
>>61035517
did the five Christians left in Sweden make that church. That's pretty damn nice church sven.
>>61035620
Christian means a member of Christ's Church. There is only one Church. All outside of it are heretics. If we are to win this culture war, we must reclaim our terms. You let others decide what our faith is?
>>61036256
God became man. This is one of the main tenets of the faith. Truly God, and truly man. Anyone who veers one way or the other is a heretic.
>>61036391
>he thinks they're prostrating to the pope
They're prostrating to Jesus, who is literally present at every Catholic Mass.
>>61037105
You believe you are the authority Christ gave?
So there are 2 billion authorities on what is true?
>>61036725
ἕως has several meanings you fucking idiot, including "even to"
Meaning that even after she had given birth to Jesus, they still had no relations.
Translating ἕως as "until" is Sophomoric at best and purposefully ignorant at worst.
>>61036725
Sorry but this is literal heresy.
>>61037105
Does Ahmed's cock counts as idol for you swedes? because i see you kneel down for a brown cock so cherfuly
>>61037232
>what type of Christian
>oh the jew kind
Just kekking trying to imagine the conversation.
>>61037331
>God became man.
That's what I said. Avatara.
Like Vishnu with Krishna.
>>61025662
We are back again at the same topic, fucking heretics and freemasons ruined the medieval church from the inside, yet it resists... Why? Because of Our Lord's promise. Remember that man, convert to the One True Church.
>>61024660
>>61025037
>not even a Cross
You protestants make me sick.
>>61036851
Protestants don't kneel. They're too proud, every one of them a pope of his own.
Plenty of those churches were built with scammed money. Gj Catholifags. Can't wait until Vatican 2 comes to full fruition.
>>61032537
RARE
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>>61019789
Go choke on the Pope's dick you faggot.
>>61037571
Finally a civilized latin american, everytime i see a latinamerican protestan feel like we failed to educate you
>>61037333
The only legitimate Church authorities left are the Roman Church and the Orthodox one.
>>61037546
No. An avatar is just a shell. God became literally human. He was human and God at once. We eat His human flesh in the Eucharist, along with his divine blood and spirit.
>>61019789
Literally "muh dick" tier, kill yourself
>>61037787
The fucking Pope is not legit in the eyes of god.
>>61037848
Thats pretty spoopy.
>>61037333
>>61037405
JIDF shillposter you dont have to do this. I know this is your work but you dont need to do this.
Think about judgement day.
Ask for repentence from Jesus, its the only way brothers...
>>61029615
Can you even conceive what is to be the mother of GOD Himself?
You think God just threw Himself inside some random lady?
The Blessed Virgin is a live tabernacle, a live sacristy....
Remember these words: He which the Heavens could not contain, She carried in Her womb
>>61037125
But every pope is in the apostolic successor of Peter, so they ALL must be perfect in their actions, right? Just like Julius II and his acts of sodomy. But the current pope seems to be all right with sodomy, so it's all good.
>>61037782
Most of us are born and bred Catholics. The couple of heretics who have forsaken their faith are gutter trash.
>>61037465
more like
>"haha what is that like orthodox jewish or something"
idk how someone can even ask something so dumb but whatever
i just explain it as eastern european catholicism
>>61037787
Absolutely correct
Obligatory image for these threads
>>61038012
Correct as well.
>>61037958
I cry every time.
Not memeing. I really do.
>>61019789
>plastic chairs
>>61037848
>God became literally human.
Then why did Christ pray to Himself, and beseech Himself for help? And how could one kill God? Avatara just means that the Spirit of God was directly channeled.
>We eat His human flesh in the Eucharist, along with his divine blood and spirit.
No, you eat some bread and drink some wine representative of those things.
>>61037967
>A Swedecuck lecturing me on theology
el. oh. el. You fucks are traitors to your race, your religion (three times actually, first you betrayed your pagan gods, then the Church, and then God in general), and to your country. Fuck off.
>>61037787
Actually its only Eastern Orthodox churches.
Its the true orginial church which came first, period.
>>61037361
If Mary never lost her virginity, does that just mean James and the rest of Jesus' siblings were the Son of God too?
>>61038062
No, we've had bad popes before and will again. Christ promised that the gates of Hell would not overcome the church, not the leaders of the church. They're just as human as you or I.
>>61038062
the pope is human, the church is true, if he is not true to the church then he doesn't belong to the Church.
>>61019929
Is that supposed to look like a woman?
>>61037967
>Ask for repentence from Jesus, its the only way brothers..
Sven are you allowed to say Jesus in your cuck country? dont you have to apologize to thee new swedes for being christian?
>>61036391
This is the rite of ordination, but i guess you heretics don't need anointed priests like Christ said so, huh?
>>61038062
So you just don't understand the "papal infallibility" thing all together?
>>61037361
>Translating ἕως as "until" is Sophomoric at best and purposefully ignorant at worst.
Not unlike mixing up the translation of virgin and maid/young girl.
>>61038338
The Catholic church at least has the Apostolic part, and truth be told politics was a factor in the two churches splitting. There are a few things different between us however I am willing to compromise with Catholics in order to restore peace. With the protestants I am not.
>>61038259
>Then why did Christ pray to Himself,
He didn't, he prayed to God the Father. God is three divine beings in one perfect unity.
>No, you eat some bread and drink some wine representative of those things.
Scripture is on my side, as are centuries of Christian tradition. You're making the extraordinary claim here -- show some proof of it.
>>61038372
If a pope commits evils, how is he fit to pick a successor for the "most holy job" even if an apostolic succession existed, it surely must have broken.
>>61038339
There is absolutely no proof that this meant his literal brothers and sisters. It could have easily meant half brothers and half sisters, or cousins, or just people he was close to and considered "family."
I think I'm going to side with the narrative that has been agreed upon by both Roman Catholics and Orthodox for 2,000 years than some heretical interpretation younger than my neighbor's old barn house.
>>61038564
Where did Christ say that?
>>61038062
Tell me about ONE pope that altered the dogmas in a way to permit his misdoings. You can't.
>>61019789
>German
>Cathedral
Cool mosque Achmed
>>61038747
Which is why you have to consider the context of these things when deciding how to translate it.
Considering all of the Apostles, contemporaries of Christ, and founding fathers of the Church considered Christ to be the Son of God and Mary to be a virgin, we translate it as literally meaning "virgin."
>>61038702
If you need moral guide whou would you ask first
your mad king who only wants a divorce? or the leader of your religiosu comunity?
>>61039258
well when you phrase it like that......
>>61038979
The pope does not pick his own successor. Other successors of the Apostles (the college of Cardinals, in this case, but all bishops and priests can trace their laying on of hands directly to an Apostle) choose the successor to the throne of Peter. The chain cannot be broken -- there are just too many links. If everyone in Rome died in a nuclear fire the priests and bishops of the world could choose a new successor and all would continue as normal.
>>61037361
You're either ignorant or being specious.
The words being used in a conjunction and has to be read as until.
>>61038889
Catholics idolise Pope, this is wrong. But I see where you are coming from.
Well
1. Orthodox christianity is the orginal form.
2. Catholics is anit-christ, idolise Pope. You could buy forgives from the church with money, whatever horrible crime you did.
3. Protestant is a "Protest". They are protesting that you could "buy" Gods forgiveness even if you murder and raped.
Thats why the Gold and crosses and icons are very much down-tuned in Protestantism and in protestant Church. From a theological point of view they might be a bit off, but they have honest motivation and most importantly honest intention.
Catholic is anti-orthodox. Protestant is anti-catholic.
>>61038916
>God is three divine beings
Ah, my mistake, I thought I was arguing with a Trinitarian.
>Scripture is on my side,
Is it, though? Where does it say, "This bread is literally becoming my flesh, the kind of which you could peal off a person"?
>You're making the extraordinary claim here
Actually, you are, by saying that ordinary bread and wine are being transformed.
Do you have any proof? A DNA test run on a loaf, perhaps?
>>61039223
More people being wrong doesn't make it right. Is Jesus not said to be of Joseph's line? How would that be possible otherwise?
