Hey, I know you're out there. How have you been? Have you made up your mind who you're voting for? Share opinions on anything.
>>61010522
I most certainly have
>>61010522
>>61010638
top kek
>>61010853
I bet he let her peg in afterwards
>>61010886
The party wasnt smart enough to get behind based Webb, so they lost my vote.
>>61010638
>>61010853
>>61010886
>>61010953
cmon guys, let the democrats have a thread for once.
Bernard's getting my vote. Hillary went off the deep end, but she USED to be cool.
Remember, /pol/, this election is actually a battle between Bernie and Hilldog, republicans need not apply :)
I've been a registered Democrat for 16 years.
I'm switching parties and voting for Trump.
>>61011231
now your vote wont matter, yay!
For the record, my original rankings:
------- Top Tier -------
1. Joe Biden
2. Bernie Sanders
3. Jim Webb
------- Low Tier -------
4. Martin O'Malley
5. Hillary Clinton
6. Lincoln Chafee
>>61011594
Switch Webb and Sanders and youre onto something there.
>>61010522
Kill yourself, you traitorous piece of shit.
>free shit
Look at us, see what happens when you vote liberal.
Dollar goes to shit and you start importing rape apes and spend billions a month on nothing that benefits your own people.
>>61011850
>>61011594
Why the fuck is Webb so great? His debate performance was pathetic, is it because he flaunts his war kills and /pol/cuks love that about him?
>>61012204
How about instead of calling it 'free shit', we call it 'expanded rights'? Bernie wants to give people the RIGHT to health care, the RIGHT to college, the RIGHT to a better life.
Plus, it isn't free at all. Every American works together to build these social and economic programs so every one of them can live that better life. Also, taxes.
>>61012204
we literally spend trillions because republicans go to war and bail out corporations
>>61011501
>now your vote wont matter, yay!
... You are an idiot.
>>61012580
You are for thinking a republican can win the general election lmao
>>61010522
Trump. Sanders is a Socialist faggot, Hillary is a globalist neocon. Trump destroys the Republican Establishment AND gives a wakeup call to the DNC that we're done with their gay bullshit. It's win/win.
>>61012699
>current president is a bigger failure than Bush ever was
>thinking another Democrat will win
>>61012261
>Why the fuck is Webb so great?
>James Henry "Jim" Webb, Jr. (born February 9, 1946) is an American politician and author.[3][4] He has served as a United States Senator from Virginia, Secretary of the Navy, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, Counsel for the United States House Committee on Veterans' Affairs[5] and Marine Corps officer.
>In the private sector he has been an Emmy Award winning journalist, a filmmaker, and the author of ten books. In addition, he taught literature at the United States Naval Academy and was a Fellow at the Harvard Institute of Politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Webb
Hes a classic democrat who wants to let people keep their guns, have a diverse energy policy, and hes sharp as a fucking tack when it comes to foreign policy.
The man actually has alot of really good ideas to fix this country, the problem is its difficult for him to articulate those plans in a debate format when you have 60-90 seconds to respond. Go on youtube and watch some of his longer interviews, the guy knows his shit.
He's also a former senator and former secretary of the navy under Reagan, so he CAN appeal to moderate conservatives as well as liberals. Also wrote the modern GI bill which, to date, has helped over a million veterans get a college education.
Also, his grenade story is MUCH more badass than he makes it out to be.
>>61012699
Okay, Bernieshill
>>61012261
No, I liked him before the memes. He's perfectly moderate enough to bring the country together and he's liberal enough on the issues that matter like wall street and civil liberties. He's also in favor of things like criminal justice reform and gay marriage/abortion rights while still being moderate on guns. His only real negative imo is he's not so strong on climate change, but he accepts the science and wouldnt stop progress. He's also honest and against citizens united.
>>61012407
We don't call it expanded rights because there is no such fucking thing you ignorant retard. This is why I hate bernie supporters. When are you going to get this through your thick fucking heads?
If the government has to GIVE it to you, it isn't a fucking right. Bernie Sanders cannot give you the right to other peoples' labor, he cannot give you the right to medicine, he cannot give you the right to an education, he cannot give you the right to shit, because you don't have a right to any of those things, and rights are not issued by the government but protected by it.
You are asking for free shit, period, and if you think it's a good idea that's fine, but do not fucking lie and claim that you're fighting for rights when you clearly don't understand what a right is.
>>61012407
>the RIGHT to college
lol.
You must not have read his tax plan. Sure, he could cover the cost if a) His speculation tax passed, and b) The traders being taxed would pay it.
But neither of these things will happen, the first because hardly anyone in Congress supports it, and the second because no one with half a brain will pay a tax on stock losses as well as gains. That's just economic stupidity.
>>61013011
you know, saying 'fuck' a lot doesn't make you look more serious and macho, really all it does is make you look childish. you sound like a middleschooler who just learned the word
>>61013172
Way to completely ignore his argument. I think you are the childish one.
>>61010522
you guys all vote like drones anyway
I live in san francisco, the cesspool of liberal faggotry, and i don't know a single democrat that likes hillary
>>61013172
Which has zero bearing on whether or not I am right, which I am. Rights are the humanistic principle upon which our society was built. My use of coarse language is immaterial in the face of a failure to comprehend the single most fundamental principle of legitimate government.
>>61013289
I wasn't even a part of his convo. Talk about being butthurt at any opposition
>>61013366
Santa Cruz here. It's nothing but Berniefags, God help us, but most of them hate Hillary for being such a slimeball. I have no idea what's going to happen when she wins the nomination.
>>61013460
I never claimed a position on whether or not you're wrong or right. I'm just giving you an insight. Sheesh you guys are so sensitive.
>>61013172
>b-but muh expanded rights
You can't even defend your argument so you go after his character. So fucking typical
>>61010522
Uncle Sanders.
>>61013611
More stupidity. I'm not the one arguing with the guy.
>>61013700
look at that, everyone thinks you're a faggot
>>61013744
That's what happens when you question the circlejerk. The guy sounds like a child, everyone gets on my dick about an argument i wasnt even in
>democucks
>>61013606
Jesus Christ mack, thank you for the tone policing, I'll bear it in mind in the future.
>>61012407
You have the right to all those things, but that doesn't mean you get them for free you fucking bellend.
>>61010522
Democrat here.
Voting for Trump.
I feel like I messed up voting for Obama twice.
Also I have personally been wronged by SJW and I want to see them all suffer for it.
>>61013700
You're still a fag. Nothing has changed that
>>61011100
they have every other goddamn board on the internet you can fuck off.
>>>/int/
>>61013011
Thing is, this country already gives k-12 students the RIGHT to public education.
Here in this country, we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Why shouldn't the right to life equate to security for each and every citizen to not worry about medical bills when they are sick? Why shouldn't the right to the pursuit of happiness equate to college for all of those people too?
Americans have the right to government protection, right? That doesn't JUST mean we can pay taxes to fund idiotic wars that republicans throw our way, it means they have to protect us individually at an economic level. That's true freedom.
>>61013606
yeah people dont read ids anymore
>>61013929
We don't call it expanded rights because there is no such fucking thing you ignorant retard. This is why I hate bernie supporters. When are you going to get this through your thick fucking heads?
If the government has to GIVE it to you, it isn't a fucking right. Bernie Sanders cannot give you the right to other peoples' labor, he cannot give you the right to medicine, he cannot give you the right to an education, he cannot give you the right to shit, because you don't have a right to any of those things, and rights are not issued by the government but protected by it.
You are asking for free shit, period, and if you think it's a good idea that's fine, but do not fucking lie and claim that you're fighting for rights when you clearly don't understand what a right is.
lol
>>61013988
>voted for obongo
>twice
wew lad
>>61013865
Holy shit Frown, you got assmad at me over my language on fucking 4chan, please do not act like you're the victim here, why is it that I'm the only Democrat on the planet Earth who cares more about the substance of an argument than the way in which it is expressed, how did you even get here, just fucking leave so that that inbred retard of a Sanders supporter can finish furiously typing his comeback at me.
>there are actual democucks on /pol/
>>61014124
I'm not the one getting into a testosterone overdrive after someone criticizes the child like talk. Keep screaming please, you're entertaining at this point. Might even vote for you.
>>61013157
It's funny because people think shit can't pass because the president can't do it, but it's a republican congress that has been slowing the nation down like no other force in history.
>>61014025
You cannot have a right to an institution, you can only have a guarantee to its coverage. A right is an inborn quality or capability of man, a freedom which is protected by the State as part of its legitimization. This is basic stuff.
I'm not saying I disagree with single payer healthcare in principle, but I agree with it because I think it's a cost-effective solution to a civic problem, not because I've deluded myself into believing that an institution of the State can be a human right. That claim is so preposterous and mistaken that it boggles the mind. There is no right to service.
And no, the American people do not have the right to government protection, as was clearly shown in Warren vs District of Columbia. The government doesn't have to do shit, that's why we require specific legislation to accomplish these ends instead of it being decided by judges.
I have voted democratic since Carter but I am voting for Trump. I hate Hillary and Sanders just does not do it for me. The Democrats attacking gun rights also does not go with me.
So now the GOP has a new pro-gun liberal ;)
>>61014032
>>61014434
Please, I like an audience when humiliating retards.
Anybody who says anything other than Sanders is not a democrat itt
>>61014898
>that filename
He's telling you the truth, that's what he's doing
And he's rekt you so bad you can only respond with memes.
>>61013986
Based Britain has my respect.
>>61015178
no, he copy and pasted this guys post >>61013011 and added "lol" after it
>>61014489
When I said "hardly anyone in Congress", I meant Democrats too.
Literally two people in Congress support this transaction tax plan.
No approval for the plan equals no free college.
Social Democrat here.
If Bernie is not the Democrat candidate, I'm voting for either Trump, because
F U C K H I L L A R Y
>>61015178
maybe actually read the thread next time
>>61014025
You dumb fucking child
We pay for that through property taxes and mine are at 10k a year already
This is good for my kids but I am not paying for yor fuckjng kids
Nope
I'll start a revolution before your socialistic society takes root
>>61015415
>social democrat
Could've just written "I'm a retard"
>>61015527
Ahahahahhahaha
>>61015527
Nobody asked for your opinion, Mohammad.
>>61015609
He is right though Rufus
>>61015527
He's right, swedes know the best policies on how to ruin a country
>>61011100
>lets be pro democrat
>on a politically incorrect board
>>61015653
What's unrivaled economic growth if the majority see none of the benefits?
>>61010522
>>61014681
My man.
>>61010522
>>61015750
They will through job creation
>>61014681
>>61011068
>greedy delusional socialist kike who wants to double the national debt and fuck over our kids / grandkids
>literally evil ex-first lady who thinks she deserves the presidency because.. she's a woman?
>a fucking patriot with leftist views
and yet Webb had to go, because 1) woman are behind Hillary because of all her success (being born with a vagina, and 2) millennials were promised free stuff and CHANGE so they want the jew
>>61014681
Doug?
Economist, votin' for the Bern, here.
you know why? Because Fuck Clinton, that's why.
Sanders' ideas have worked, and can be copied and blown up without many issues, we just have to look past the fear of change bullshit.
Then again, you also have Cruz and Trump willing to ram 20% taxes on all purchases, in addition to state sales taxes, and we know that doesn't work very well. Too inefficient, too regressive.
>>61014681
Best US post on healthcare I have seen in all my days on /pol/.
>>61010522
Hillary or Bernie doesn't matter , I have and always will vote Democrat
>>61016836
>Economist
>votin' for the Bern
pick one
You should have called this thread shitposting general.
>>61019421
Don't have to. His ideas have a proven track record.
Let me tell you, it's a pain in the fucking ass to pay my employees and then also pony up for healthcare. If I were taxed 10% more, but didn't have to pay healthcare costs, I'm come out ahead. I'd make more money. It's better for me to not pay through insurance. I would imagine most businesses that do the same also would feel the same. It also streamlines my taxes, too.
>>61019756
Please stop using sound logic, you're scaring away the /pol/s...
I wanted Jim Webb and I shilled for him on /pol/ leading up to the first debate for weeks.
That aside, I'd prefer Sanders to Shillary, because I know any of his ideas that could be too disastrous would be checked by congress or the Dems, but he's not NEARLY as bought and sold as she is. Plus she's just awful.
I haven't felt this disinterested in voting since I became of age
>>61012875
>Grenade Story
Damn straight it is:
> On July 10, 1969, while participating in a company-sized search and destroy operation deep in hostile territory, First Lieutenant Webb's platoon discovered a well-camouflaged bunker complex that appeared to be unoccupied. Deploying his men into defensive positions, First Lieutenant Webb was advancing to the first bunker when three enemy soldiers armed with hand grenades jumped out. Reacting instantly, he grabbed the closest man and, brandishing his .45 caliber pistol at the others, apprehended all three of the soldiers. Accompanied by one of his men, he then approached the second bunker and called for the enemy to surrender. When the hostile soldiers failed to answer him and threw a grenade that detonated dangerously close to him, First Lieutenant Webb detonated a claymore mine in the bunker aperture, accounting for two enemy casualties and disclosing the entrance to a tunnel. Despite the smoke and debris from the explosion and the possibility of enemy soldiers hiding in the tunnel, he then conducted a thorough search that yielded several items of equipment and numerous documents containing valuable intelligence data. Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker. By his courage, aggressive leadership, and selfless devotion to duty, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
>>61019421
i came here to post this.
If Bernie wins primary ---> Vote Bernie!
If Hillary wins primary ---> Vote Trump!
This is the only correct answer.
>>61019421
Nice meme. I would agree with you if you applied that exact criticism to all candidates, but you probably don't.
>>61010522
I live in California. I can vote Democrat and have my vote count or I can choose to not participate in the process. That being said I love Bernie. He is indeed a Jew but one of the good ones.
I hate that I have to vote for affirmative action and healthcare reform just because I want to tax rich fuckers.
Bernie beats Hillary
