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Hey Polan, why so authoritarian? Why all the new laws? Explain
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Hey Polan, why so authoritarian? Why all the new laws?

Explain it to me please, before we commit Anschluss!
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Things were pretty shitty, so we're making them less shitty.
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Fuck off krautcuck
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russia just failed o kill both duck brothers
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>>60039083
Funny how we call them krauts, when we were the ones that taught them how to make sauerkraut. kek
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>>60038134
You mean authoritative.
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>>60039516
Fuck black cross
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Can anyone explain why left-wingers lose their shit when they discuss Poland? What laws? What happened?
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>>60039516
sauerkraut is tasty
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Do German man exist in reality or only history books?
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>>60040330
not even in history books. legends and myths only
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>>60040161
Mainstream media/news were like 80% German, so they would say a lot of anti Polish, pro refugee shit. The new government wants to make the media Polish again, as well as other institutions that were owned by the last party (who were basically German cuckolds). Since the lefties are loosing power and jobs they're going ape shit. German media are shilling Poland so hard because they're also loosing influence.
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>>60040533
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>>60039516
WE WUZ KRAUTS N SHIT
:DD
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if Poland continues going right I've got to visit the place and see just how much better it is. It's like a little White Utopia that's turning more right-wing by the day.

Polish are bro-tier.
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>>60040533
>>60040621
So Duda is extremely based?
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It's Anschluss-tiem!
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>>60040693
They're anti-German, anti-Russian. But pro-US and pro-Ukraine. They're not really as right as pol thinks they are. They're more central (sometimes even slight left), but they don't shit on national symbols and aren't libtards, so you could say they're based.
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>>60041076
>They're anti-German
Wait, what? Really? They hate only the government, right? Not the country itself
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>>60038134
70-80% of media companies in Poland belong to German outlets. Mostly they are leftist and support German interests. Now that progressive pro-EU pro-German rulings of Civic Platform came to an end, media are desperately trying to paint new government black as they're losing their influence.
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>>60041196
I hope it won't come to civil war or some shit, don't make the same mistakes as we did
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>>60041267
The opposition is trying to make that happen actually. As if we needed more proof that they're traitors.
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>>60041076
Not being pro-German or pro-Russian doesn't mean being anti-German or anti-Russian. It's called being more diplomatically assertive.
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They don't appreciate lapdogs like Schultz crying about muh democracies and Merkel going full cuckold, but I don't think they have anything against normal people. Except that majority of Germans seem brainwashed beyond saving, so I'm not sure.
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>>60041426
I meant government wise, not actual people
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>>60038134
>Explain it to me please, before we commit Anschluss!

don't you mean "jihad"?
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>>60041405
So who's "winning" right now in Poland?
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>>60038134
pls Anschluss before its too late
t. a concerned Schlesier
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>>60041648
No one's winning or losing, we've had elections and PiS is doing up the house.
This ain't Ukraine, no offense.
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>>60041648

hard to say since this is more of a shitflinging contest than anything
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>>60041648
KOD, lefties who want to have another Maidan and are sponsored by Soros are shilling incredibly hard in the news, but it will end when the new government takes over our media. But I don't think that a lot of people believe in their bullcrap.
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>>60041267
Don't worry. They're too weak to make a change. It's just media manipulation, blowing things out of proportion. New government didn't make more evil laws than previous one.
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>>60041745
>>60041823
>>60041828
>>60041920

So everything's good I guess? What will you do with Polish lefties and sjws? They won't admit their defeat so easily
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>>60038134
reported for leftist shitposting.
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>>60040533
Well their government got it correctly
>Braucht ihr Polen nur als Pufferzone zu Russland? Als Lieferant billiger Arbeitskräfte? Als Zulieferer und verlängerte Werkbank für große deutsche Konzerne?
roughly translated
>Do you need Poland only as puffer to Russia? As exporter of cheap labor? As exporter of parts and as "I have no clue how to translate it"
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>>60041979
Step one is to deny them any publicity. That should take care of things.

If anything these elections showed that the age of homo is over. Actual neocommies got more votes than lgbt circus party.
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>>60041979
I guess that they will cry and moan for a while, but without any backing from the government they will slowly fade away
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>>60041979
They have to deal with it. Government was rightfully elected by the people themselves, and they voted for PiS rules. Public government support is still strong and most of the people except social justice clowns are satisfied with the new rule so far.
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>>60042208
>>60042331
I fucking love you guys <3
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Too bad we fucked up. Again.
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It's like the 7th time when Ukraine fucked itself up throughout the history. Jesus Christ...
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>>60042487
Feel bad for you.

Your leaders are terrible shits hang all of them and start again.
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>>60042584
"Ukraine is led by those, who don't care about her"
-Mykhailo Hrushevsky
100 years later. And it's still true
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>>60042846
Once we can free our countries we will help free yours. You wont be forgotten, at least i wont forget.
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>>60042988
What problems do you have? Never heard about major happenings in NZ, strange. Niggers chimp out? Refugees? Feminists?
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About polish media and how fucking terrible they are, turn subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqvwHQnCG18
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>>60043088
cuckolds and jews.

Anglo sphere is going down the shitter we are trying to make a last stand here and hope someone like Trump can pull off a hail Mary otherwise we rely on eastern Europe to save us.

God help us.
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>>60041076

The funny thing is, social democratic government works great.... With a racially homogenous European population
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>>60038134
Media just make a mountain out of a molehill, we are ok
Previous ruling party lose last election and is fucking buttmad, that's all.
All of my friends who aren't brainwashed liberals support our new gov.
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>>60043261
Damn. More detail on that?
>Anglo sphere is going down the shitter we are trying to make a last stand
What do you mean by that?
>>60043095
He's talking so fast, Jesus...
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>>60039429
kek
>>60041076
>pro-Ukraine
>based
kek
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>>60043644
Tru dat. I've no idea why they wanna support bandera scum so much. Probably because US is telling them to...
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>>60043557
We will split into two within my life time.
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>>60043748
>bandera scum
Jesus Christ... You can't be serious. Do you actually believe that we have a "Junta" or Nazis here? They are just a bunch of corrupt faggots, that's all. They ruined our revolution.
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>>60043752
Now that's really fucked up. Do you have UKIP/AfD/SD - tier parties who can stop this fuckery?
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>>60043863
Didn't you guys have a Bandera day recently?
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>>60043863
Don't you have a street in Lwów named after him?

I've heard some nasty stories first hand,mate.Don't try to fool me.
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>>60043946
no such thing in anglo countries we are all immigrants :^) and our nationalists are just as corrupt as yours once they get into power.

Good luck friend we need eastern Europe more than ever.
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>>60043960
>>60044044

It was just his fucking birthday. There are so many lies about his biography. Some say he was bad, so say he was good. Nobody know the truth. His biography was written the Communists, dude.
Yes, he invented Ukrainian nationalism. Yes, because of him many Polish people died. It's all behind now, nobody "worships" him here. Our nationalism has been transformed many times since his days. He's just a major figure in our history, so some people celebrate his birthday that's all.
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>>60044044
I'm from Podkarpacie, so I've heard a lot of stories about UPA. They used murder Poles in forests that I went past often
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>>60043752
>All the Southland regions are %20 non white,

Where are these supposed shitskins?
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>>60044208
It was just another mistake commited by us. Look what happened to us - we hated the Polish and let the fucking commies take charge. Now we are a third world country. We payed a lot for our shitty decisions
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>>60043748
>>60043644
lets be honest, every eastern country turned against Russia is a natural ally for Poland
In the geopolitical interests of Poland is support Ukraine,
they are shitty, artificial state but as long as they are against Russia they are our buffer zone
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>>60044187
>Yes, because of him many Polish people died
Is that what you call genocide now?

>so some people celebrate his birthday that's all.
You celebrate someones birthday by outright discrimination of an ethnic minority?You're full of shit.

The fact that that guy has his own street is enough to not cooperate with Ukraine.
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>>60043476
Tfw your country fills you with pride, joy, shame and WTF at the same time.
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>>60044357
Why do we need a buffer?What can't we forget about groundless pride and ally with Russia.We would get a lot more out of it than just being Americas lap dog.
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>>60044407
>Is that what you call genocide now?

uh, "many people died" is pretty much in the definition
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>>60044407
>The fact that that guy has his own street is enough to not cooperate with Ukraine.
Have you seen our government? Have you? They don't give a single fuck about us or our future. Do you think they care about history or Bandera or the genocide against the Poles? They don't give a fuck at all.
I am sorry for this shit, but this is how it is now. And again - we payed (and paying) A LOT for all this. You can see for yourself
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>>60044334
It was mistake I understand that but if there is to be friendship between our nations you can't celebrate him like some national hero.
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>>60044334
I don't know men. The few Ukrainians I met where similar to you in terms of their views of bandera and such, but from all the stories I read it seems like people, especially in the west idolize him. Also, there are always some fuckwits that constantly raise monuments for him in my region without permission, so they get destroyed, but they come back and build more.
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BASED
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>>60044334
>>60044334
>It was just another mistake

Sending your youths to Poland to parade with bandera shit is also a glaring mistake and does not benefit anyone.
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>>60044569
>>60044602

Tell that to our fucking morons who still hate you as a nation. I saw a post on vk that said:
>polish
>human
pick one
You can't change these degenerates. They'd rather worship the US. The same with Bandera - many of us don't even know who he is. Most people celebrate his birthday because some "cool" guy told them to
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/pol/-land is just doing something against the cancer that is leftism. good for them.
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>>60044805
Read >>60044808
There are Ukrainians who hate you as a nation. Nothing can be done here. Brain dead. Completely.
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>>60044187
We all know who was Bandera and what he was doing, bro.
> Some say he was bad, so say he was good
only in your country people say something good about him. Do u ever wondered why?
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>>60044875
how about call it a genocide and treat it just as any terrible crime. Make it punishable to praise bandera?
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>>60044914
Because he's considered to be a "hero" by many, eh? Many Russians consider Stalin a hero, so now what? Do I have to start to you as a nation?
>>60044965
Unlikely. Nothing can be done right in this fucking country...
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>>60042165
Sounds like "huge labor pool for big corporations" if I am reading that last German sentence correctly.
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>>60044208
And we have to take into account that they were considerably less brutal in Bieszczady and Sanok/Przemysl than in what is today Western Ukraine.

Where are you from?
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>>60044965
I think Bandera is used simply as a brand.The face of Ukrainian nationalism and struggle for independence.Because there is no one left to use for this goal they pursue. You know what I mean? he rightly says, many Ukrainians were just deceived by the information that TV said about him in their country.
TV pissing in ukrainians ears worse and more than my and your TV together
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>>60045136
Sanok
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>>60044508
And then we can be Russia's lapdog...
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>>60045316
At least they've stopped saying: "RUSSIA IS FUCKED REEEEEE USA USA USA RUSSIAN IS DEAD, OIL PRICES OIL PRICES!!!" lol
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>>60039516
Funny how you both call Finns Mongols but sauerkraut came from Mongolian raiders
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>>60045033
well you know better then me, that in both our countries Stalin revered like hero only by old people 60+, who grew up on Soviet propaganda
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based polan
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>>60044914
>>60045316
Ukie got his point, Stalin and communism in general kill many ppl and cuck many nations, somehow Russians worship him more than Ukies worship Banderafag
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>>60045470
Unfortunately young shits worship him as well. No wonder why you and me are literally shit-tier countries.
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>>60044727
>Europy

Jesus Christ who let a third-grader write that title? Makes it sound there's two Europes or some shit.
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>>60045448
well I saw new year message of the Poroshenko, apparently have not stopped. What's the scandal with a magazine cover in his twitter ?
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>>60045413
We are weak because of people like you.

There is more available than being someones lapdog.
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>>60045654
ahahah The faggot photoshopped it!
There used be your moronic president's face on the cover. Our piece of presidential shit made put his face on top of Putin's :D
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>>60045411
>Sanok

Nice little town. Nice little dubs.
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>>60045836
You?
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>>60045552
>>60045586
in fact, among young people no one likes Stalin, the only who's loves him its brainwashed by their grandmothers and their candy-stories. I don't have a single friend who comments positively about Stalin. Honestly
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>>60038134
Because the Civic Platform (agents of globalism) bequeathed chaos
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>>60045688
The power imbalance between Poland and Russia would have us turn into a lapdog. Compare their military manpower to ours. Hell, we even buy our gas from them so that alone makes us dependant on them.
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>>60045595
Dopełniacz
Kogo? Czego?
Europy - co ci nie pasuje?
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>>60045909
The same here with bandera. But never underestimate communism. It's like an infection.
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>>60045800
ebat' on loh
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>Based Poland sticking it to the globalization Jew
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>>60045981
THIS IS FUCKING GOLD
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>>60045595

co ty pierdolisz
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>>60045977
communism is complete shit as liberalism. But damn , Bandera?
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>>60046058
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>>60045930
>The power imbalance between Poland and Russia would have us turn into a lapdog.
Not if we manage to establish trading contacts with others.Having both the East and West as a trading partner would boost us significantly and allow us to be truly indepedent.Well,maybe apart from the gas and oil part.
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>>60045885
Uherce. Near Lesko.
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>>60046094
Unfortunately Bandera is a "symbol" of our nationalism. And it it really makes me sad as a right-wing nationalist myself. That's the problem. People have no idea who Bandera was. They don't even know about the genocide
>>60046209
Thanks. Very kind of you
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We're fighting for white, christian Europe liberated from leftist ideology.
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Any chance you'll jail German Antifags, if they travel to Poland to protest stuff?

Or just rough them up beyond recognition?
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>>60046346
Protest for?
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>>60046346
There is a chance they'll get smashed by our fanatics, but that is about it if they only protest and not break the law.
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>>60046263
Close to Solina, nice location
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>>60046346
we don't want german hegemony. we don't want leftist ideology
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>>60046278
well I said this in my posts earlier
okay.
A new maidan revolution.
When?
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>>60046346
Have you seen the video of leftie protest in Sczecin? Nationalists would shred them if not for the popo
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>>60046587
God, I hope never. The previous one was a failure. The EU and the US will just "put their people" in charge of us again. I don't know how to fix Ukraine.
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>>60046278
btw. why don't you come to Poland, right winged, english speaking Ukrainians are pretty welcomed here
>>60046346
Not a chance, we have our own antifags and unfortunately they are doing well here.
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Could I move to Poland? What's the employment like? Do you all speak English or will I have to be fluent is Polish before I move? Are you hostile or unwelcoming to white immigration?
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>>60046782
You already have 800k of us. And you have unemployment rate of 10%. I'll just be liability to you. Once you stabilize your country, I'll start learning Polish right away.
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>>60046791
That's a stupid idea, especially now that the leftists took over and have the majority in the Sejm.
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>>60046791
frankly not. poland has uneducated society. young people speak english, majority of old- not
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>>60046219
Until we somehow manage to get oil and gaz from anywhere else besides Russia, we will always be an unequal partner to them.

Trading with the East and West is all well and good but it's difficult to do when you're freezing your ass off during the winter because the gas price got hiked.
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>>60046791
We're full.
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>>60047038
Szczecin has already finished building their gas port.The worst that could happen now is high gas prices.Not freezing.
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>>60045459
It's just banter, everyone likes the Fingols.
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>>60046773
free Ukrainians don't want to defend their freedom without a salary from the u.s. state department
how ironic
and how much pathos was about the people's revolution
I'm not gloating , just sadly laugh , bro
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>>60045595
"bronią domu", czy "bronią dom"?
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>>60047048
Fuck you all your people are over here, it's a fair trade!
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>>60047233
We had a good start though. We wanted to get rid of the previous faggot. The only problem was - who would replace him? By the end of the revolution we hadn't answered the qustion, so we "solved" the problem with "democracy". You can see the results yourself.
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>>60047310
You got the cheap labour you wanted, but we don't want you here.Fair deal.
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>>60047385
What exactly is happening in Ukraine?
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>>60047415
>implying we wanted cheap labour
>implying you don't want IT technicians
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>>60047302
"Bronią dom"
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>>60047385
well you know who was stimulated this "good start". You can see the results yourself.
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>>60047477

but we got our own
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>>60040533
this
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>>60047538
I'm coming anyway
Meet you in the town square at 4:30
Be there or be square
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>>60047456
Basically the previous gov has taken over. They rob us and our country. They say that Merkel will save us. They say that the US will "take care" of us. All this shit. And the war of course. So many good people died for NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Sometimes I lie to myself and say: "They died fro free Ukraine" or anything like that. Doesn't really help
>>60047529
Well... Everyone thought that we would hang every single faggot in Rada. Didn't work out.
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>leftists do a bunch of authoritarian bullshit
>"So tolerant and progressive, after all it's the current year :^)"
>right wingers do a bunch of authoritarian bullshit
>"FASCISM! SOMEONE STOP THESE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED MONSTERS"
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>>60045688
Nah. I'm pretty sure that if we're fucked, then we are fucked because of people not understanding the basic rules of geopolitics. People like you, who delude themselves, that there is any chance of having a real partnership with Russia. And I'm not saying that Russians are evil. Well, Putin is an SOB, but it doesn't matter who rules it. What matters is that it is in Russia's best interest, to have nothing but vassal states all along the North European Plain.

Our only hope to remain a sovereign power is to gang-up with other central and eastern european states. Call it what you will - Intermarium, the new Commonwealth, ABC Federation, V4+, whatever. What matters is, that we must have a degree of miliatry and economical coopoeration between major countries in the region.

We had this opportunities twice before. In 1658 Ukrainians (or Cossacks, if you prefer) fucked up. They were bitter after uprisings and thought that they can become an independent power. During the Second Republic we both fucked up. Ukrainians didn't support Petlura as much as they should, and we were divided in our ideas of what our eastern policy should be.

Now, for the third time this opportunity arises. And there's a bunch of people like you, people with whom I agree on a lot of issues, but who work relentlessly, so that we could fuck up for the third time.

Because muh Bandera and crimes done two generations ago.

We can't let you do that. Intermarium must rise.
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>>60047477
>implying you don't want IT technicians

I'm afraid we really don't. Every second fucker here is in IT.
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>>60047491
twoja stara
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>>60046949
The fuck are you talking about? Actually there are no leftist in Sejm, only right (majority) and central (minority).
Maybe you were talking about previous cadence?
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>>60047415
I like this new Poland.
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>>60047669

You need time. Dedicated years of anti-corruption policies and action. West/East doesn't matter. Gotta fix internal shit first.
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>>60047884
Chyba ty
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>>60048010
How do you fix it? We can't just kill every single politician and over 300 000 officials.
And our gov will not fix shit.
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>>60047669
This could be done 100-200 years ago. Now do this for 1 month is not possible. Each adequate resident of a small , dependent country must understand that there will always be third parties who intervene in proccess
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>>60038134
There is literally nothing wrong with authoritharism as long as country is led by someone who is patriotic and wise.
We only had success when we were lead by kings like Bathory or Sobieski who used to have popularity in nobility because it was impossible to do it otherwise, same with interwar period, as soon as our dictator died everything went to hell.
Enforcing "democratic values" wont work for every country.
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>>60048109
That's why we're fucked, bro.
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>>60047669
their deaths werent for nothing
now the people know where they stand, either with the west and their promises of higher standard of living(which is bullshit) or with Russia, which is shit, corrupted and poor standard of living, but atleast doesnt treat you like human waste, sending you to die for nothing against people that are 90% similar to you

there's no more 'undecided' people in ukraine, most have taken a side, and in the future will probably lead to ukraine splitting itself
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>>60038134
Because your lovely cumwhore PO political party lost.

About time.
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>>60047888
I bet hes one of these korwinists who claim everyone who isn't their krul is leftie commie
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>>60038134
I can't blame them. They needed a political 180 before they can be up as doomed and humiliated as the progressive, tolerant countries to the west.
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>>60048010
What they need is to jusk ask us to annex them (at least the western part). There's no shame in that, Poland is a bunch of united slavic tribes anyway. With Jarosław in charge we'd clean the place up in no time.
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>>60048265
Implying it will lead to something good. I am just afraid that Poland will look at us at one point and say: "Oh, fuck off". And then create an alliance without us.
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>>60041682
>too late
what, you're concerned you'll miss out on all those rad immigrant waves?
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>>60048209
You need Husaria. For every problem the cure is Husaria. Too much kebabs? Husaria. Anti Polish (or Ukrainian for you) government? Husaria. The Swedes attacking you? Husaria. Tatars are at it again? Husaria. You want to rule Moscow? Husaria. German Blitzkrieg with tanks? Maybe not Husaria...
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>>60048333
What do they know about our Hussars? Also those lefties would have loved Poland during Gierek's reign when the SB and ZOMO were in power.
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>>60048333
>Wasting trips on this shit-tier bait
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>>60048531
Not anymore, friend :( We are ruled by people like Obama and Merkel now. Nothing can be done about it
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>>60048333
> Icon of the german antifa movement
Oh what a coincidence.
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>>60048333
Can a pole bro please translate the leftist garbage? Why are they hating on the hussars? Also were the nazis as bad as the jews claim?
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>>60048097

Like I said, time. It's not a popular answer I know it's very boring. A few more decades away from old Cold War relics and there will be a chance. New blood to enter politics and maybe do some good here and there.
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Are there good business opportunities in Poland? I'm trying to set up my own little business and I was looking at any Eastern Euro country. What sectors are underdeveloped in Poland?
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>>60038134


The PiS party is no different from the previously ruling PO party except for PiS being a pro Poland party, where PO was the German traitor side of the German-Russian Condominium under the Jewish board of trustees.

While pretending to be right-wing PiS is actually a left wing party.
They are a bunch of National Socialists, which some /pol/ Hitler cucks would admire.

PiS:
Economically: left wing socialist scum
Culturally: Conservative, protecting cultural and national identity and keeping fags and unborn child murderers in check

PO:
Economically: Pretend to be right wing, but they are economically just as bad as socialist PiS
Culturally: Fag promoters and destructor of cultural and national identity

While President Kaczynski (the one removed using Putin's polish_remover.jpg) signed the Lisbon treaty, PiS is trying to act independently from the socialist EU bullshit.


All the shit you hear on the news about democracy being endangered is utter nonsense and a provocation by the losers of the election.
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>>60048531
>German Blitzkrieg with tanks? Maybe not Husaria...

Our cavalry was wrecking the German tanks though. With big guns, of course, not with lances. We just didn't have enough.
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>>60046782

I've read something recently that German Antifa carts some of their members to Poland on busses every once in a while, when the Polish Antifa needs bigger numbers.
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>>60047669
What's the people's opinion on the fact thatPorohenko co-founded the Party of regions and is a corrupt oligarch just like Yanukovych? You are also ruled by a Georgian a bunch of people from America and Canada and a lot of the previous political class. I mean it's like they're not even trying. Have the Jews arrived already with "muh Holocaust you owe us 66 trillion, don't worry you can pay us with your fertile land"? Are Azov Nazi? (They have the symbol) How is your military even fighting if it's full of GRU agents? (We're only beginning to clean up ours now)
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>>60041828
>but it will end when the new government takes over our media.

That doesn't sound any better to me...a shill is a shill. Is the government really going to take over the media, or just free it from foreign influence?
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>>60048828
That's true.
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>>60048708
I'm ashamed to be a Pole. For Vienna, Hussars, NSZ (National Army), AK (Home Army the Polack scum will pay.
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>>60048333
>>60048708
Man, it's just a retard bait, don't bother.
I will translate it for /pol/ack so you can kek at it hard:

"Social action
have guys to finally say it:
I am ashamed to be Pole
for Vienna
hussars
National Armed Forces
AK (Armia Krajowa - anon)
will pay
polish rabble"

I'm surprised you guys still fall for this bait tho.
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>>60048824
Tru dat. But I thought of Husaria with lances, not AT weapons.
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>>60048834
Nobody likes Poroshenko. When he got elected we all knew - "it's over".
Don't know about the jews.
Azov is far right. There are nat. soc. among them (don't confuse with skinhead untermenschens), but they are just nationalists.
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>>60047038
Why are you pissed about Nord-Stream 2 again?
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>>60048708
With context:

"Man up and say it: I am embarrassed that I am Polish."

"For the Hussars, the National Army (AK), Vienna, the nationalist mob will pay."
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>>60049047
>>60048921
Lol what fags if anything poles should be ashamed for it's failing to join the reich and fight communism (wasn't like you had a better choice) but it's a totally understandable thing to want to have your own country and not become part of germany (especially now)
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>>60048828
I've seen one of them, i think they took a random person from street that looked acceptable but liberal (dreads) you could tell she's not used to these kinds of "speeches". I also think there were more peacekeepers and media than actual protesters
https://youtu.be/0gaRZUIanHM?t=4m5s
>tfw no qt antifa girl to cheer up by claiming that not every pole is democracy breaking fascist
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>>60048864
The shilling will be lesser and won't be so anti Polish, pro degeneracy.
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>>60048834
>Azov Nazi
yes they is
and they do in Donbass literally the same as UPA done in Wolyn but by other ways and against the pro-russian population
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>>60041580
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>>60049262
They're keeping the Ukrop tradition alive
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>>60049214
What assurance would we have Hitler wouldn't backstab us like he back stabbed USSR ? He was ends justify the means kinda guy.

He made it clear in Mein Kampf what he tought about us.
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>>60047848
Intermarium is basically EU on a much smaller scale.Instead of Germany there is Poland and all vasall states lay in EE.

Intermarium didn't work in our Interbellum period and it won't work now because of the exact same external reasons as then.

Anyway,who do you plan or working with?Non existent Belarus,anihilated Ukraine or the Baltic states?
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>>60049077
And is your military staff and military intelligence riddled with GRU agents? I have heard it is. And how's the mafia situation in the country?
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>>60038134
When Romania did the same shit you said nothing because we were your humble servants.
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>>60049425
No idea about the military.
And mafia? Dude, we don't need mafia. We have the government to rob us
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>>60049262
This russian paid troll is right. Polan should have accepted the offer from Zyrynovski to split the Nazi Ukraine between russia and poland in 2013 or so.

However Russia is full of communist supporters
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>>60049425
>And is your military staff and military intelligence riddled with GRU agents?

How is that even a question. It is and will be for decades. Even our had Nato centre had Russian FSB emblem.
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>>60049514


Jokes aside, to be more realistic the small Ukraine separating Poland from Russia is a nice safety feature that we would like to keep.


Polan loves Russia much, however the further Russia is from Poland the more we love her
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>>60049769
Jestem pana wielkim fanem, panie Januszu.
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Polebros, what is your opinion on all of this and how divided is the public in Poland?

can you still act freely about this shit in your country or have lefties imposed political correctness there to? what do your friends and family think about?

I visited your country in '14 and I loved it
good luck, polebros
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>>60049895
I can talk about nigs and spics that I see in Londonistan and almost everyone agrees. Youcan openly say it in public.
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>>60049514
but not Russia nor Poland does not need Ukraine as part of the country. It would require too much investment. Now we literally feed the Crimea , because it obsolete. MORE OBSOLETE THEN MANY REGIONS OF RUSSIA.
Ukraine should be a separate country, but Ukraine will never receive independence...
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>>60049999
Thanks for you answer but I was talking more about this whole media thing
What does the average Pole think about this?
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>poland
no such thing since 1795
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>>60047669
Are there that many Jews in Ukraine?
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>>60050017
Lviv is a beautiful Polish city that would add to the current assets(tourism, etc), unfortunately it belongs to those Urkies.
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>>60050143
No, only in Odessa. But the government is infested
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>>60050078
Most people I spoke too are against this whole leftie "maidan" and othets don't give a shit. I'm yet to see someone that agrees with them
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>>60039083
Have you forgotten what happened the last time you angered Germoney
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>>60050197
Why don't you just leave Ukraine and become a proper /pol/ish citizen of rich western Poland?
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>>60050178
Lviv is the only profitable city of Ukraine. Mb Kharkiv in the East. Everything else is literally subsidized shithole like half of Russia. We dont need more.
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>>60049385
He was close to Józef Piłsudski and really didn't hate all the poles, just some bad army feels from the war and the rest of his pole hate came from an ally turned enemy former general Erich Ludendorff
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>>60050331
Too poor, can't leave just now. I will in the future though.
Dude, check out what's goinf on in Germany. It's insane right now. All these rapes in Cologne, holy shit
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>>60050078
My family watches TV only to see what not to believe.It's hard to say what the average Pole thinks of this desu. The Blitzkrieg German media ensues is duly noticable, however I think it has the opposite effect.
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>>60050078
>>60049895
every new government treats public entities as their own. not that many peple care about it.

"leftists" in poland is what you call everyone who disagrees with you. our "leftist" (at least in the opinion of the majority) past governments have banned abortion, put catholic/orthodox religion in schools, and sent troops to iraq in the initial invasion.
our left is not like the rest of the europe's.
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>>60046346
They don't go here anymore
They got beaten up the last time and they weren't here since
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>>60040678
Polish people aren't white
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>>60046060
Oni obronią Europę
>>60045940
Powinno być kogo? co? Europę
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>>60050538
It was before the multikulti, interracial, white man's guilt craze. Should they be in power today, they would eat it up like there's no tommorow. Besides we have new radical left growing.
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>>60050488
Germany is lost as is France. I don't even follow the news on these retards anymore.

The unfortunate events caused the Russian communist rulers who destroyed the entire eastern block are actually starting to at least having one positive outcome - that human garbage does not immigrate to our countries like to the West
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>>60038134
>Anschluss
Only Anschluss is being done to Germany by Muslims m8
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>>60050749
Russia is paying for its "victory" as well.
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At least there will be no arab rape gangs in poland like in the holy city of cologne.

Weiter so, Polska!
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>>60050848
Indeed, I think Russia suffered actually the most, even today the majority of russians are still brainwashed into thinking that the communist times were good times for them

top kek
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>>60046791
If you have any decent skill you'll find a job. Though people will be surprised by someone form the West coming here to live. They'll suspect something is worng with you. Among young people English is relatively popular. You would survive not knowing Polish if you stayed in a larger city.
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>>60050801
and soon by poland.. its alright though, europe will do just as well under nationalist poland as it would under nationalist germany, maybe even better.
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>>60049418
Poland and Romania as the core, possibly using an extended V4 format. Ukraine - as soon as the dust settles.
The rest would be welcome to join, but they don't have the same strategic importance as V4, Romania and Ukraine.
As to what would be the framework of integration - I think joint battlegroups and energy sector are crucial. Everything else is secondary.
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>>60050442
Pilsudski was fond of Jews.

"Yes, everybody knows that I'm not an antisemite, but neither am I a philo-semite. I simply like them and feel good among their company."
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>>60050197
Well it looks like you will become a Rusian-German condominium with a Jewish board of trustees
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>>60050915
It won't make anything better, but I am sorry for what's going on in your country, bro :(
>>60050943
It's really sad. Many Russians even share the same looks as Germans. You know: blonde hair, green/blue eyes, very nordic view. Too bad we all fought and now pay for this.
I also look very nordic. My grandma was probably liberated by a guy from SS :(
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>>60050746

>>60050746

>>60050746

Poland is based
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Friendly reminder that poles are based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmerZbDPXns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwExBBHeeTU
when's the last time you saw that display of national pride?

>WARSAW, RISE
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>>60051125
Romania is poor as fuck, though. What would they bring to the table?
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>>60039516
Annex them to save them plz
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>>60048780
There is always room for IT, as everywhere. We lack good mechanics, machine manufacture, renewable energy plants.
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>>60050943
dude , it's not because of brainwashing. Its beocise a real contrast of the quiet Soviet life and a complete nightmare 90s. In the 90s the whole economy was destroyed, people literally survived. What you saw about the USSR alleged that all frames beginning its collapse and 90s.
USSR was shit in many things, but compared to 90s it was a candyland
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>>60051129
he might have missed them
But anyone who knows is glad they were removed from poland
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>>60047618
Enjoy your 3/4 pay reduction while prices of western goods stay the same.
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>>60051567
Sounds like Poland in the 90s as well after communism fell on its arse.
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>>60051013
You know, I like Poland, despite the fact that it has such shitty living standards (no offense). At this rate, Europe would be better under Polish rule than by the EU, given how desperately Sweden and Germany are both trying to ruin Europe by flooding it with rapists.
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>>60041193
They have Disdain for the Government yes, Not too sure about the Country itself.
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>>60043752

And here I was looking to do my masters in Dunedin... don't wanna get attacked by shitskins
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>>60050972
Why would they think something is wrong with me? Does that mean no qt Polish Nationalist gf?
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>>60051931
Because everyone still believes in the early 2000 meme, where you could earn fortune in the west. Well, it's not like that anymore
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>>60050678
Tam jest "bronią", baranie.

• bronić + dopełniacz: 1. stawiać czoła atakom, chronić: Bronili wsi i miast; Bronią kraju przed wrogiem; 2. stawać w czyjejś (czegoś) obronie, opowiadać się za czymś (kimś): Broniła dzieci; Bronił jej przed zarzutami; Bronił prawdy;
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>>60051931
They'd think that you couldn't get a job/a life in UK so you try to use the "I'm from the West" to get an upper hand here. It's just unreasonable. A guy comes from rich UK to live in shithole Poland? It's like selling a Camaro to get a train ticket.
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>>60052320
Ok, masz mnie, byłem tak chętny wypomnieć błąd, że sam go wykreowałem.
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>>60051931
Because for a regular person it is difficult to understand why would you move from a country with a higher standard of living to a one with a worse standard.

It makes them think you had some negative reason to leave your country.
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>>60038134
Other Anons point you mostly in right direction.
Poland was to this moment just trade mark as company name controlled by other Corporation.
Imagine almost all German companies and Corporations sold in shady trades, all profits going out from Germany to f.g. Turkey France etc. in this moment your government, can't control flown of capital, and and national grown can be controlled by forces outside German borders.
By simply Manipulation in media Owned by Foreign Corporations citizens can by manipulated, and governments can be booted in in order to protect, foreign interest.
How you Feel now when you realized all this Democracy hysteria is orchestrated by some one who just finds out, hes interest in whole nation starts falling apart ?
Now just change this story main character form Germany to Poland.
Polish companies over last 20 years was destroyed or sold in bigger or smaller peaces to foreign Investors, companies witch was a problematic because they created concurrent product, cheaper witch threatened our companies and there was no interest to keep it was simply put down.
All Media Outlets was sold Banking system was Sold Energetic Systems was SOLD. Trains Telecommunication was Sold.
Poland stays just a Brand name, rest decisions about our future and patch was made in Corporations and Other governments.
And Now new government having majority in parliament, and is close to getting even majority to change constitution, is a serious problem and but-hurt for all of them who losing control, In order to freely change laws we need to fix (bugged by old governments ) 3 Power in country Judicial system ( that's about Trybunal Konstytucyjny ) they can block all laws passed by new government because the main law constitution is so fuck up is not strait forward and you can try play with it if you have own judges.
Second is Polish State Media Bugged with anti government management. And that is now in process
Private media cant be fixed so quickly but we get there.
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>>60038134
ITS TIME FOR POLAND TO INVADE GERMANY! The fouth Reich is not German but POLISH!
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>>60052642
>poland
>invading germany
yeah sure.
And afterwards they get a famous export besides unqualified labor
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>>60052642
WE WUZ REICH N SHIEEET
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>>60052642
We don't want to invade anyone, we just want to be left the fuck alone. We haven't even had time to properly enjoy being a a free independent country.
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>>60052874
don't forget the apples. apples. apples. and more apples.

>>60053100
this
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>>60051257
Manpower, growth (which presents opportunities for investments - I bet Romanians would prefer non-invasive Polish capital over German financial juggernauts that take over half the country). And last but not least - access to the Black Sea.
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>>60053100
2 fucking million poles emigrated since 2004
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>>60053447
This is why we need to make Poland great again, so that they come back
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>>60046278
Wait wasnt bandera in prison while the genocide happened?
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>>60053447
because: We haven't even had time to properly enjoy being a a free independent country, and since we joined the EU it didn't look like changing.
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