>the free market will fix it
>>59980599
Government regulations, like zoning laws and height restrictions, do more to raise the price of rents than anything else.
>>59980599
why do you need a two bedroom apartment
>>59980704
It also stops dystopian shit like pic related to become an acceptable standart for the poor
>>59980599
your face when the most liberal states are the most expensive
>>59981043
forgot pic
>>59980599
So? Go live in Oklahoma or Montana or something. It's not your god given right to live in the trendiest neighborhood in Brooklyn or San Francisco.
>>59981118
>>59980704
precisely
>>59980599
>2-bedroom
So between 2 and 4 workers to split the costs? What exactly is the issue?
>>59981016
So that you can live together with your wife and kids.
>>59981016
Roommate?
>divide by 2
>pretty reasonable
whats the point?
>>59980599
>Washington
Rent in the Seattle area is more expensive than it shows, but people who work in Seattle make a lot more. Rent in the Spokane area (or eastern Washington in general) is much much cheaper.
>live in city
>pay for it
Is there something broken about it?
>30% of their income
Seems kind of arbitrary, but whatever. That leaves a bunch for other necessities and entertainment.
Since it's a two bedroom apartment, you only need to make half of that. Minimum wage can support that in nearly all of the states. Don't fucking live in San Francisco if you can't afford it, and there won't be a problem.
>>59980599
If it weren't for welfare the wages would be even higher.
tfw texas 3br/2ba in excellent zero crime neighborhood
>>59981545
this is a joke right? the extra bedroom does not double the value of the apartment. in fact only adds like 25%
>>59981545
My thoughts as well. Two people making $8.35/hr or whatever has you doing fine in 90% of the country. And to live alone you need to make $13-16/hr. Sounds about right.
>>59980599
looks like it's working well for the red states.
>>59981545
You used to only need 1 income while somebody besides television looked after your children.
>>59980599
Jesus Christ, Americans are so fucking spoiled...
>all these retarded bernie fucks show how stupid they are
>>59980599
>tfw jew yorker
>tfw 3 bedroom apartment
>tfw no where near that percentage of my pay goes to paying it
>tfw nice neighborhood
>>59982003
Yeah but that one income was generally a man with a decent job (plumber, assembly line, carpenter, construction, etc.) and all those jobs still pay $13-25/hr.
>>59982127
Fuck your rent control.
>without paying more than 30% of their income
what
why did they just pick an arbitrarily low number and go "hm this looks like a good cutoff"
>>59981469
>minimum wage
>wife and kids
>>59980599
>if we just raise everyone's wages to $15 an hour this will solve the problem completely
Liberal solving problem is straight out of 2nd grade reasoning.
Why the fuck would you be living in a two bedroom apartment by yourself?
This makes no sense.
>>59980599
Golly, if only there were some way more than one person could occupy a two-bedroom apartment. Perhaps have a second person, a 'mate' if you will who is willing to split the expenses with you for those rooms, thus requiring a smaller income.
We could call this a 'room mate'.
>>59980599
why doesnt the USA build commie blocs? I never really leave my room now anyways i dont need a living room or basement.
>Live in a garage converted into a bedroom
>have 7 other housemates, 1 garagemate
>~$130/mo rent + util
wew
you want to know where you don't want to fucking live. I will tell you.
I live in San Francisco. I make 160,000 a year plus stock options.
This is one of the most expensive cities in the world.
I live by myself. And because I choose to do so I have to live like a nigger.
I live in the Tenderloin area of the city. Basically I step over homeless people, human shit, discarded needles on a daily basis.
I live 1 block away from a homeless shelter and 1 block away from a police station. I open my window at night and here yelling, screaming, fighting, and gun shots on a daily basis.
/pol/ this needs to be exterminated. I in all rights should be living the good life but I have to live by fucking niggers due to government tax rates and how expensive this city is.
I don't want to live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 10 other people.
This is your future if you don't stop this now.
>>59982618
Forgot to add that that 130 covers rent AND utility
>2 bed housing wage
>east coast is just 20+
desu senpai i thought it would be 50+
>>59982291
So poor people shouldn't be allowed to breed?
Actually they're way more fertile than the middle class.
>>59982600
Because they would turn into nigger blocs and be torn apart. A new one would have to be built every few years
>>59980599
>Average housing cost
>Minimum wage
All this says is what the average wage in each state should be. AFAIK the average wage in Texas is roughly $16/hr so we're doing pretty well. If you make below average income, perhaps you should have below average cost housing.
>>59982662
This shit is why I moved from NYC to Austin.
My life improved tremendously upon doing so.
>>59982662
>gunshots.
And that's how I know you're lying, Jessica.
>>59982788
I don't blame you. I am just riding out the stock options for now. If this goes public I am by default a multi millionare and can go retire to live in some dirt poor asian country where I can fuck asian bitches daily while living on $1000 a month.
>>59982662
>I live in San Francisco.
Well there's your problem. Stop living in the Supreme liberal shithole, you donut.
Places where the work is at have jacked up overpriced rent, while place that have super cheap house are places where there's no jobs. Shits sucks but what can you do.
>State/city raises minimum wage.
>It gets taxed more because it's in a higher tax bracket.
>State is now richer.
>People are now poorer.
California sucks.
>>59982853
look at this image. The red is where crime is out of control. I live in the exact center of it all.
>>59982923
When you work as a software engineer this is where the jobs are at.
It fucking sucks.
>>59983017
what website is that from
>>59982788
Except it is not nearly as bad as that guys situation here. I'm >>59982127 and I live comfortably supporting my family.
>>59981537
then it would be half of the wage in OP
>>59983078
http://gizmodo.com/5808046/visualizing-the-most-dangerous-blocks-in-your-city
>>59980599
They are probably assuming the minimum rent for a 2 bedroom unit, so its probably gonna be in the hood where I'll probably get shot by some thug who want my shoes.
>>59980704
Another Ed Glaeser fan?
>>59983017
Here's another map for your collection
>>59983017
Why do you have to exaggerate about what's happening in your neighborhood? I know you're not hearing gunshots on a daily or even monthly basis.
>>59980599
> single income
> 2 bedroom unit
> """"market rate""""
This literally means nothing.
>>59982600
we do
they're called 'public housing units' aka projects
ever watched The Wire?
First season's 'pit' are public housing units, I grew up in one. It's the most accurate depiction I've ever seen because they used a real housing unit to film it.
>>59982896
>im le millionaire posting on 4chin
>>59983235
what are the islands like? comfy?
>>59983186
Nope, not the minimum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_market_rent
>>59982737
>breed
we're not animals, we're God's children.
shut your filthy blasphemous mouth.
>>59983323
I thankfully don't live anywhere near Commiefornia. Maybe one of them will tell you.
>>59983290
Everyone if you are smart follow this plan. It is what I have done.
Save 10% of your income.
Every year put 20% down on an investment property that is a 2 or 3 bedroom house. Take out a 30 year loan on the property and rent it out.
As soon as you have another 20% down for a property saved up get another property and get a loan on it. DO NOT INVEST IN THE FUCKING GETTO.
Do this for 10 years and you will own at least 10 homes. You will cash flow the fuck out.
By then you can either take all the excess cash flow and put it towards loan 1, 2, 3, etc. or you can continue buying properties as soon as you get 20% down available.
Do this and you will be a multimillionare. I guarentee it.
>>59981118
The liberal states are the most desirable. All you /pol/ fags should go live in Mississippi and live your policies.
>>59983315
I'm not a millionare yet. I'm hoping I will be if this fucking company makes some money or google or some other retarded company buys us out.
>>59980599
>still more people want to live in California or NY
>still more people want to move away from cheaper states in the midwest
People being retarded has nothing to do with the free market.
>>59982291
>never has adjusted well to reality
>he sits in his room on /pol/ all day
>not knowing real life and it's struggles
>Government intervention will fix it
>>59982737
You need 2 wage earners to support a full family, especially if you live in an ultra left wing state like California where you pay at least twice as much for the same shit thanks to excessive regulation
>tfw live in midwest and can get a nice 3 bedroom apt for 450
>>59983431
what sorta income you need to accomplish this?
>>59983594
>revolution isn't rLOVEution
>>59983431
shut da hell up, kid, you have no idea what you;re talking about. maybe 1 home in 10-15 years of painful torturous labor... "at least 10" ...just shut da fuck up you kid, gosh this triggered me so much..fuck
dumb uneducated fools on pol.
>>59983471
>he's never been to Gulfport
>>59983652
If you make $50,000 or more you can follow this plan. Invest in the midwest where you can buy homes for $50,000 or less. Try to invest in 3 bedroom homes over 2 bedroom homes as they rent for more and you will get more stable tenants.
>>59980599
Alskas data must be skewed as fuck. I doubt there's more than 3000 total 2br flats in alask though. 2010 census was a state pop of only ~775,000 iirc
>>59983725
Invest in the midwest where you are not paying $500,000 for a place but more like $50,000.
>>59982253
Jesus cletus, just go read their methodology, we didn't create the study.
>>59983652
depends on property you're investing in can be relatively cheap all things considered (ie comparable to buying a mcdonalds), but you do need to have a really good eye into investment properties - it's so easy to get fucked, and when you're fucked, you're fucked for g o o d
>WITHOUT SPENDING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME
So you're telling me two people can live together in New York City in a two bedroom apartment as long as they each make $12.50 an hour and still save 70% of their respective incomes?
The free market is a beautiful thing.
>>59983414
Commiefornian here. It's complete garbage. Housing prices will crash within a few years, and whites are no longer the majority.
Also, oy vey, muh drought.
>>59981270
Underrated post.
This so hard. People need to get the fuck out of the cities. There's nothing good about living there, save for the opportunity for white collar work.
>>59981270
>picks brooklyn and san fran as examples
>clearly doesn't understand the graph
>>59980599
>two bedroom
hate this meme
no you don't deserve to raise 8 niglets on minimum wage you braindead nigger
>>59980599
The darker blue states have more regulations than the gray states.
The regulated markets are fixing it for the owners. The less regulated markets are fixing if to the consumer.
You really should learn to see past your Marxist delusions, commie zombie.
>>59982003
>Guys usually waited until they have a good job before having a wife and kids
>Guys usually started working at 15-16 so they had years of experience by the time they're out of school
>Guys usually stayed in one job for 10-30 years
>Blue collar jobs weren't a stigma
>>59980599
Thank you National Income Tax for people who make less then $25,000. Thank you National Income Tax for families of 4 who make around 54,000 a year.
Seriously, do you think the free market is going to fix something that is regulated and taxed to death?
>>59981614
That number has been used as a metric for decades. Lrn2econ 101
>>59982291
>OY VEY WE CAN'T HAVE THE GOYIM BREEDING
>>59983066
Perhaps your employer funds this liberal niggershit
>>59980704
Urban planner here. This is correct. Arbitrary land use regulations prevent the most economical use of land.
>>59983066
What? You fuck sticks can't work remotely?
>>59982291
Poor people make terrible life decisions.
More at 11.
>>59983431
>Average home in the non ghetto will be somewhere between $200,000-$300,00
>20% is going to be $30k to $40k
>Able to save that much in a year, while also living your own life on anything less than a 200k income.
>The risks are not insignificant as a landlord. You are responsible for the damages accrued by renters as well as upkeep on all the shit, sewage, heat, etc etc.
>Utterly fucked in a down market, such as when the property value drops and your mortgage is underwater. Or if your renters go away and you're left holding the mortgage.
>Real Estate is incredibly illiquid, good luck finding buyers when YOU need to sell in a hurry.
If you're able to save $30k a year, why not just invest in the stock market? Or if you're so set on real estate, invest in a REIT which is functionally the same (real estate and stocks have similiar returns with much less work on your part).
>>59983798
>I doubt there's more than 3000 total 2br flats in alask though.
Truth.
You be surprised how much cheaper trailers are in rent. Hell, you can buy a trailer on a 15 year mortgage for less than my rent.
>>59981984
No one wants to live in those states senpai and they have some of the poorest people in the country.
If you're a lower income white in a red state and you vote republican, you're pants on heads retarded. Nothing wrong with right wing politics as an idea, but the republican states continuously fuck their states and noone notices
>>59983887
If only that were so, but the government is stealing roughly 30% of your income in taxes. 30% spending on just living space is the ideal number because you're spending something like 20% on all the other basic amenities like food, internet and things that make life slightly tolerable. You're amazingly well off if you can keep even 10% or 15% of your income after everything. Especially if you can save it.
>>59980599
>Major cities and college towns are more expensive to live in than other places
it's fucking nothing
>>59982253
>30% of your income for rent is low
How does it feel to be so thoroughly cucked by the rent seekers and corps?
>>59982498
Not everyone is 18-25 anon. Some people are actually adults
>>59982253
bro if you're paying more than 30% on rent, it's probably cheaper to actually buy a house and pay the mortgage and taxes every month
If you can't figure out how to make $20 bucks an hour you're too dumb to breed and should do society a favor by dying cold and hungry on the street anyways.
I rent a 1 bedroom mother in law house on the back of my property for $550 a month. I include all living utilities (electricity, natural gas, trash, water and sewer).
I get exactly 2 responses from people when I have it advertised
>holy shit, that's cheap!
>holy shit, that's expensive!
>>59980599
Bullshit, I live in California have a 3 bedroom house and make $20 an hour. Which will be paid off in 15 years not 30.
>>59980599
THE MISLEADING CLAIM: US Uncut shows a map spotted with numbers like 73, 59, 64, etc, and claims "here's how many hours a week you need to work just to pay rent."
WHY IT'S MISLEADING:
This would be an alarming claim if it weren't so distorted. For one, in the article they cite, the actual claim is a bit more precise, claiming that there is not a single state in the U.S. where a minimum wage employee can afford a one-bedroom apartment. [a] While this conclusion makes a bit more sense, it's still potentially misleading if you aren't aware of the definitions being used to render it.
For instance, here are some pertinent notes from the ACTUAL 257 paged study:
>Part 2 soon
>>59984533
>just buy a house on salaries in the picture
are you stupid on purpose
>>59983635
No you don't, I'm the single earner in my household and I support my family fine.
>>59981251
areyou using a city, that was so desirable to move to that, even though it looked like that, people still flocked to, as an example to "prove" the free market is bad?
kek
>>59984625
• The word "afford" is quite subjective, and this report defines "affordability" as "no more than 30% of a household’s gross income." [b] In other words, if rent cost more than that, this report simply concluded that people "couldn't afford rent," whether that be true or not.
• How it determined local rent costs was ALSO important to note. It used something called "Fair Market Rent." FMR is defined as "the 40th percentile of gross rents for typical, non-substandard rental units." [b] Understanding that "median rent" would have meant "rent in the 50th percentile," what this is really counting is the cost of apartments that are slightly cheaper than the median. It does NOT count apartments even cheaper than that, however, or apartments defined as sub-standard. Per the HUD, who develops this definition, the following units are excluded: public housing units, rental units considered substandard in quality, seasonal rentals, rental units on 10 or more acres, and section 8 housing units. [c] This is potentially misleading, since despite there being numerous affordable options for rent, the report simply didn't acknowledge them because they're deemed "low income housing" or "sub-standard." They're essentially concluding that low-income earners can't afford to be anything other than low-income spenders. Should that really shock anyone? It doesn't mean they're destitute.
• As shown on pages 9, 15, and elsewhere in the 257 paged report (if willing to do the math yourself), the researchers also didn't look at TOTAL compensation (including benefits and overtime, etc). They merely took an estimated hourly rate, multiplied it by 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, and acted as though that was all the money people were bringing in. As many hard workers know, this is often not the case, as many individuals work more than 40 hours in a week.
>Part 3 on the way
>>59984533
>bro if you're paying more than 30% on rent, it's probably cheaper to actually buy a house and pay the mortgage and taxes every month
>implying you have a downpayment
>>59984694
So now that we know this report has the potential to be thoroughly misleading, let's pick a state and do a little fact checking. Take Washington state, for example. On the graphic, they indicate one needs to work 73 hours to afford rent in Washington. Per RentJungle.com, rent for a one-bedroom in Seattle, WA is around $1,634. [d] However. Per NUMBEO.com, rent OUTSIDE the city is around $1,261. [e]
Washington state's Office of Financial Management projected that median household income in 2014 was around 58,686. [f] According to the Census ACS 1-year survey, however, the median household income for Washington was actually $61,366 in 2014. [g] Understanding that income estimates are subject to varying collection methods and therefore often a bit inaccurate, we can average these estimates and get $60,026. Now, if we subtract federal income tax, social security tax, medicare tax, and standard deductions, (Washington doesn't have a state income tax) we're left with an estimated monthly disposable income of $3,606. [h] That's more than enough to afford to live outside the city and pay around $1,261 for a one bedroom apartment.
Next, if we looked at the hourly wage of an "average renter" in Washington, which according to this report was $16.30 [b], and again subtracted taxes/deductions, we'd be left with a monthly disposable income of around $1,931. [i] After paying rent for a one bedroom apartment, such an individual would have $670 leftover to pay for other expenses (remember, this is after taxes). Now that IS difficult, but it's still doable. It's also not the cheapest apartment, however.
>Part 4 the sequal
>>59984708
>Not having based veteran status that lets you get a 3% downpayment without any of that bullshit insurance.
>Didn't even do anything in the military.
It's the one perk that's halfway decent, thank you based VA.
>>59984502
If you dont make "adult" money (re: enough to live on your own) you dont deserve to live like an "adult".
>>59984757
Lastly, if we looked at the state's minimum wage, which is $9.47 an hour [j], we can see that a post-tax monthly income of $981 certainly wouldn't be enough to afford a $1261 apartment, and we acknowledge that. However, as alluded to above, there are numerous less expensive options available that simply were overlooked. As of 1/3/16, here's a list of apartments for less than $500 a month in Washington State:
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5369690843.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5339226139.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5340851840.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5363217383.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5366012084.html
And here's a list for ones less than $550:
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5363219653.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5354675069.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5358260160.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5375786893.html
•http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/apa/5380043714.html
It took LESS THAN 1 MINUTE to find those. Surely people in need can find some of these lower priced apartments.
>Conclusion next then sources
>>59984377
>towns and cities
>not a map of states
>>59984822
CONCLUSION:
The standards used in this report are entirely arbitrary and amount to nothing more than an exercise in mental gymnastics. The definitions used, by design, exclude the very real examples of low income individuals able to pay rent, as to paint a dire picture. OF COURSE lower income individuals might have to pay a larger share of their incomes towards rent. And OF COURSE low-income individuals may have to live in low-income housing. That doesn't mean they're destitute, however. It also doesn't mean they're prevented from living with a working spouse, as to have a two-income household, or living with a relative / roommate until their career has improved. Essentially, all this report does is confirm that those with low incomes can't afford non-low prices. How is that even remotely surprising?
>>59984644
>working a child's job and expecting to get a living wage
>>59984874
Sources:
[a]
http://www.attn.com/stories/4920/united-states-minimum-wage-and-rent?utm_source=usuncut&utm_medium=fbpost&utm_campaign=influencer
[b]
http://nlihc.org/sites/default/files/oor/OOR_2015_FULL.pdf
[c]
http://www.huduser.gov/periodicals/USHMC/winter98/summary-2.html
[d]
$1,634 rent in Seattle, WA as of 10/2015.
https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-seattle-rent-trends/
[e]
$1,261 rent OUTSIDE the city.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=United+States&city=Seattle%2C+WA
[f]
http://www.ofm.wa.gov/economy/hhinc/medinc.pdf
[g]
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/washington/
[h]
http://www.calculator.net/take-home-pay-calculator.html?cannualincome=60026&cpayfrequency=Monthly&cfilestatus=Single&callowance=2&cdeduction=500&cstatetax=0&ccitytax=0&cadditionat1=no&printit=0&x=0&y=0
[i]
http://www.calculator.net/take-home-pay-calculator.html?cannualincome=33904&cpayfrequency=Monthly&cfilestatus=Single&callowance=2&cdeduction=500&cstatetax=0&ccitytax=0&cadditionat1=no&printit=0&x=60&y=18
[j]
http://www.lni.wa.gov/workplacerights/wages/minimum/
>>59984819
Sure is nice saying that from the comfort of moms basement, eh white 20 something anon? Everyone has the same chances as you in life and if they arent making it they must be lazy mmhmm
>>59980704
You forgot rising interest rates, foreign land banking, unrestrained immigration, but sure all those things are true, especially regulations.
Melbournian here, rising land values are just a way of life to me, it started around when I was born and I watched my parents frantically buy as many as possible. Now that we own enough, it's almost like we're part of a hidden noble community in Australia.
>>59984848
>implying it's coincidence that states with major cities and a large number of colleges are on average the most expensive
>>59983066
There are software engineering jobs elsewhere, in places that don't cost as much. Granted, you're probably not going to make $160k/yr, but you won't be spending $2000/mo to rent in a shitty neighborhood either.
>>59984921>>59984874
>>59984822
>>59984757
>>59984694
>>59984625
you did a good jorb out there. the HUD is detrimental throughout.
>>59982737
>So poor people shouldn't be allowed to breed?
No, we just shouldn't be required to pay for their spawn.
If you fuck up and have kids, don't steal from strangers (taxation/welfare) and let your scummy fucking kids die. You'll be doing the world a favor.
>>59983011
kek
>>59984982
>Melbournian here, rising land values are just a way of life to me, it started around when I was born and I watched my parents frantically buy as many as possible. Now that we own enough, it's almost like we're part of a hidden noble community in Australia.
Perthfag here. That's all and well unless your parents are cunts that keep it for themselves.
Literally millions worth in property and its all for "retirement". Forget that you got free uni education and a strong economy to get your first job in though...
>>59984775
>It's the one perk that's halfway decent, thank you based VA.
>being a welfare queen
>>59980599
>tfw live in gray state
Yeah, the free market fixed it, faggots. I don't live in some huge expensive city because I'm not retarded.
The map is retarded in general though, so there's that to consider.
>>59985774
Not even, the issue with gen X is that their advanced diplomas are equivalent to a modern day masters, as in just a little more than a bachelor degree. Youth unemployment/underemployment (if you have a degree, what are you doing flipping burgers?) is a serious and hidden problem all across the world and there isn't a single politician in the west willing to address that problem.
It's interesting how many different ways the "developing nations" meme can fuck young people.
>retirement
Thankfully, they enjoy owning houses too much to sell and the house prices are about to go down because interest rates, so their instincts is not to sell. They get easily 1000$ a week in rent and don't have expensive past times, so they don't care.
>>59981876
>
the point is that if you have two bedrooms you can split the rent with someone else halving the expense.
If you make 10 dollars an hour working 40 hours a week you cannot afford to live alone or with a stay at home wife
>>59983290
What gets me every fucking time is how, in my city, the only difference between an "apartment building" and a "housing project" is the amount of blacks in it.
Also how dirty and crime ridden it is, but I'm talking about cause here, not effect.
>gov restricts the building of housing, restricts renting out rooms, imposes rent controls, levies enormous property taxes.
and people wonder why rent is so damn high? it's the government, stupid.
>>59980599
As a renter in VT, who has rented multiple houses, not apartments, I can assure you that I would be living like a king if I made the wage that the charts suggests. Maybe if I wanted to live as close as possible to UVM or somewhere similar that might be the case, but for most of the state it's ridiculous. This image is horseshit.
>>59984265
How so?
>>59980599
How high are living costs though you dumb ass bitch?
>>59985293
idiots keep dragging me outta the wood work
>>59986167
>It's interesting how many different ways the "developing nations" meme can fuck young people.
In what way?
>>59986387
Actually, I'm a renter and recent college grad in Texas. If I made the amount on for Texas ($16.62), I'd be able to pay all my bills, my student loan note that's going to come into effect in June, and then have money leftover for savings, assuming I living in my current apartment with my current roommates.
>>59982739
More like New Jack City's Carter building crack dens.
A.k.a "The Raid" or "Dredd"
>>59980599
These charts are such horse shit. I bet they included "essentials" like the newest iPhone that burger flippers are totally entitled to for merely existing.
>>59982662
>Tenderloin
Wew lad. You have it rough
>>59988938
You can finance a phone.
>all states are black heavy
nice
>>59980599
So everywhere but california, washington, and new york, two people working full time at minimum wage can afford a two bedroom apartment without using more than 30% of their paycheck.
Huh. I can't help but wonder. What do Washington, California, and New York have in common?
>>59989880
Jews
Rent in South Florida is pretty high too.
>>59983471
>shitholes like Los Angeles, New York, and Chiraq are desirable
HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
They're only desirable to gullible millenial retards who will actually pay that much for shitty studio aparments
>>59981270
This
>>59981118
THIS
