You have 326 seconds to prove homosexuality isn't a mental illness
>>59423205
Why worry about homosexuality when we can focus on trans?
>>59423205
If being a fag isn't a choice like they claim, doesn't that make it a mental illness?
>>59423280
Both of them must die
>>59423205
XD this pic
>>59423284
It is but gay pressure groups got it removed from official classifications.
>>59423205
>prove homosexuality isn't a mental illness
but it is
>>59423205
Can't bcuz it is
>>59423361
http://www.behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/
Related
So mother fuckers like vaginas and this is normal. K.
>>59423205
>prove a negative
how?
there are gay penguins
homosexuality is just natures way of reducing overpopulation. gay individuals cant reproduce. therefore, being gay is completely natural and ok, but gays adopting children is not.
lots of penguins in antarctica = lots of gay penguins
lots of humans in the world = lots of gay humans
>>59423436
DUDE DICKS LMAO
>>59423436
Canadian posts need not apply
It's not a mental illness but a natural form of population control.
seriously?
homosexuality is just one minor symptom of the larger problem that is our civilization's collapse
>>59423485
Surrogates
>>59423496
Yeah. And the personalities are better too
>>59423284
You know your body, Gary.
Is having any fetish a mental illness?
>>59423321
Here's the question that can tie into OP's - which one dies first?
>>59423485
Animals eating their own offspring is also a form of population control. They also eat their own shit too. It's totally natural!
>>59423485
>le animals do it so it's fuckkng normal x le D
Can fags come with an argument that isn't complete garbage? Animals eat shit, are incestual and pedophilic as well. If we're gonna live like animals we might as well legalize all that shit too
What is sane and what is considered insane?
>>59423485
>gays adopting children is not.
There are too many children in the world starving or in horrible shelters to deny any responsible adult couples from adoption. This is not about finding the "perfect" home for kids, it's about finding any responsible family willing to undertake the responsibility.
>>59423420
>There are no mental illnesses. Rather, there are people. We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives
Fucking kill yourself.
>>59423648
Transsexuals defiantly
>>59423578
DUDE DICK LMAO
>>59423597
Certain fetishes. Homosexuality is one of them
>>59423578
>surrogates
that's a shit rebuttal
>>59423687
well it is natural, its animalistic and inhumane but natural.
>>59423205
Just listen to this song faamm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9KQ4_uH1RA
>>59423692
>>59423687
Yes and society has deemed homosexuality an acceptable natural behavior, not shit eating or animal fucking or eating your offspring. If you want to fight for those things to be accepted then that's on you but the point is that homosexuality is natural and there is nothing wrong with a society that accepts it
>>59423821
>le society said it's okay so it's okay!
Try again, this time try not to make an absolute fool of yourself
>>59423536
And why does the west need population control again?
It "naturally occurs" more as it's promoted more in a society too, what a coincidence!
>>59423420
Well that answered nothing.
>>59423886
What do you want me to try? I've shown that it's natural and you came back with the typical "hurr durr so is murdering your young" response, so I clarified that by saying society has declared it perfectly fine and now apparently that's not enough
I['m not saying you have to accept that it's right. We live in a free society so you are free to hate homosexuals all you want, I'm just pointing out that it's a natural human instinct for x amount of the population, these are consenting adults that should be able to dictate their own sexual lives and that those who seek to criminalize sexual expression are generally oppressive dictators.
You're free to disagree with me forever though
>>59423906
Yes, because if the society doesn't accept it then of course there are going to be more homosexuals who live in the closet.
Among Western nations it generally sits at 3-4% of the overall population no matter what country you look at so clearly it's just a natural form of human sexuality
>>59423361
It got put there first without proof, and as the proverb says "what is claimed without proof can be dismissed without proof."
So OP claims indirectly that homosexuality is a mental illness and puts the burden of proof on others. But that's not how it works, he has to make a case for his case before we can rebut it.
As for the official classification, back in the early days of psychology they shifted from "demons" to "psychological traumas" so whatever was claimed to be the work of the devil by earlier priests/doctors was thought that since there's no demon well it must be a mental illness without looking at the individual cases.
>>59424311
If you allow a behavior, promote it and "socially subsidize" it you only get more of it.
Think about the compounding social impact it has over generations. Is this the society you would want to leave for your son?
>>59423205
It isn't
It's a fetish
>>59425468
That study is bullshit that just caters to special snowflake look at me tumblr types. The actual number is still at 3% of people who report being homosexual.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx
>>59423205
Fags think that dancing almost naked and acting autistic in parades in front of children is somehow "normal".
Of course faggots are mentally ill.
>>59423420
One day Pedosexual behavior will no longer be a "mental illness" either.
Pedosexuality is at the same place Homosexuality was 60 years ago.
>>59423205
>>59423692
>implying we arent animals and anything relatable to animals is bad
>>59423821
>Yes and society has deemed homosexuality an acceptable natural behavior,
Lmao, no it hasn't. A small group of people have pushed it upon us telling us "comply or be arrested". Most people see faggots for what they are.
>>59425957
except it isnt. homosexuallity was treated the same as pedophilia. there was a distinction made
>>59423205
how to prove it's a mental illness:
>define mental illness in a rigorous manner
>define homosexuality in a rigorous manner
>assume homosexuality does not meet the definition of mental illness
>prove why that assumption is invalid using logical statements which are consistent with your previous arguments
>>59423485
>homosexuality is just natures way of reducing overpopulation.
Citation massively needed. You think nature just magically makes some animals homosexual when it detects there's too many of that animal? What nonsense. Show some evidence.
>>59427585
>bitfag
well thats more your country isnt it
Freedom is nice this time of year
>>59427669
>nature is a living force
>>59427702
Pretty sure most people even in the US (cuck central) don't like faggots. That's why the SCOTUS had to force fag marriage.
>>59423205
It doesn't cause one to directly or indirectly hurt themselves.
>>59423205
http://www.livescience.com/6106-gay-uncles-pass-genes.html
Interesting theory.
>>59425957
>One day Pedosexual behavior will no longer be a "mental illness" either.
Pedophilia is shared under paraphilias, same list where things like scat and stuff like gerontophilia ends up on. Not actual sexual orientation.
After all age != sex.
>>59424245
>so I clarified that by saying society has declared it perfectly fine and now apparently that's not enough
You say "Society" has declared it perfectly fine. What society, where, and when? Only America in the last 5 years? That doesn't suddenly make it totally fine. If America legalized cannibalism you would be making the exact same argument for why cannibalism is totally fine - because some nebulous "society", which you do not define, says it's okay, and thus it is okay. Nevermind that society said it was wrong in America for the last 300 years, all of a sudden the lawmakers say it's okay so it must be okay, according to you.
>>59423205
Burden of proof is on you to prove something, not to disprove something.
Checkmate.
It's worth nothing that gay acceptance is a cultural meme. In fact, if /pol/ existed 10 years ago you would not have anyone here defending faggots. Back then people would have laughed at the prospect of faggot marriage.
>>59423205
As long as pedophilia (sexual deviance) is classified as a mental illness, I don't feel the need to argue that homosexuality (sexual deviance) isn't..
Why you even asking on /pol/?
>>59424311
natural =/= good though. there are all kinds of illnesses, and many of them are quite common.
>>59423205
Evolutionary response to competition
>>59428037
Why do people let this rule dictate their arguments? How about 'no?'
>>59425730
It's a legal parade so they can do whatever they want. And why are children at a gay parade?
>>59427949
blurred lines. being into little girls isn't like a scat fetish either
>>59428279
Because faggot liberals keep bringing their kids to these parades.
You see this shit all the time in cities like Los Angeles or San Francisco.
>>59428279
Because faggots want to indoctrinate them by exposing them to their deviancy.
>>59423205
Tschaikovsky
Leonardo da Vinci
Tim Cuck
Alan Turing
...
..
..
>>59423485
Why are there so many Swedish fags (with 21/sq km density) and so few Nigerian fags (with 189/sq km density) in that case?
Look up the gay uncle theory you fucking faggots
>The so-called "gay uncle" hypothesis posits that people who themselves do not have children may nonetheless increase the prevalence of their family's genes in future generations by providing resources (food, supervision, defense, shelter, etc.) to the offspring of their closest relatives.
>>59423205
The male g spot is inside your ass. God's cruel joke or base of homo degeneracy? Discuss.
All these people missing out on that sweet boipucci
>>59428818
Edit: basis
>>59427806
the states were actually all becoming pro gay marriage anyway. It was a retarded thing to do but either way the majority of the states had gay marriage. meanwhile your queen is a man in a dress
I'M SO PROUD
TO HAVE SHIT
ALL OVER MY DICK
>>59428898
>meanwhile your queen is a man in a dress
so is your first lady
>>59428911
well; fucking a chick in the butt is an accomplishment
>>59428514
>blurred lines
How? The only blurred line is what age.
But pedophilia refers to prepubescent boys/girls which is around 12 years.
That's the only blurred line there is.
>being into little girls isn't like a scat fetish either
But it is like being attracted to incredibly old people, which too is a paraphilia, and so is being attracted to animals, or feet.
What they all have in common is that sex is not the primary factor that the attraction is based on.
>>59427934
what about sociopathy? only hurts you indirectly if you didn't assess risk correctly
>>59428898
And your elected leader is a Muslim negroid from Kenya.
AMERICA
YES
>>59423205
butt fucking homos will be strung up next to the niggers on the day of the rope
>>59428843
Why are all the people defending faggots on this board American?
Are there any straight people left in the land of the cucked?
>>59428279
Why are people at a gay parade?
Seriously reason number one for people to be there is to post pictures on facebook and instagram to flaunt how accepting they are.
Don't these people have something better to do?
>>59429034
>How?
because most of the clear defined fetishes are liveless objects, not wanting a romantic relationship with a wrong person.
blurred lines because paraphilia can be both fetish or abnormal sexual orientation
"[s]exual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes" and that "[t]his range of behaviors and attractions has been described in various cultures and nations throughout the world."
>>59423205
homofagness is a fetish portrayed as a lifestyle to gain acceptance
I think homosexuality is a natural result of overpopulation. Luckily not all of us are breeding like Mexicans who just hopped the border.
>>59428949
yeah but we kick them out every 4 to 8 years and make fun of them publically
>>59429034
Same arguments were used against Homosexuals.
One day, just like Homosexuality is now accepted so will Pedosexuality.
Where will the Pedo Castro Street be?
When will cities stage Pedosexual pride parades?
Who will be the Pedosexual President Obama allowing marriage?
Maybe not in our lifetimes but our children and grandchildren will benefit.
>>59429085
who even far left liberals hate him
http://www.mediaite.com/online/michael-moore-slams-obama-all-hell-be-remembered-for-is-first-black-president/
>>59423205
Mental illness doesn't exist, its just a fetish. Anyone can become homosexual with the right conditioning
>>59423205
A mental illness is something that gives someone a disadvantage over other people in society. As gay couples earn more on average then straight couples, there is no disadvantage that gays suffer at all. It, as such, cannot be a mental illness.
>>59429698
This is what delusional leftists actually believe.
Since liberals are so worried about being progressive you tell them homossexuality is wrong because they did it in the ancient times and we've PROGRESSED to abandon it. You can say this to just about everything.
>>59429750 Good refutation britbong, go fuck yourself.
>>59429750
>implying this isnt correct
britbongs are in full aussie mode today
>>59429927
Yeah really. Mental illness is defined by the amount of money someone earns.
THIS IS WHAT LEFTISTS ACTUALLY FUCKING BELIEVE PEOPLE
>>59429698
>earning more money means there's no disadvantage gays suffer at all
Nope not a single one
Not one
https://news.yahoo.com/since-september-14-assaults-dallas-202702252.html
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/14th-gay-man-attacked-in-dallas-in-2-months/?fb_ref=e0550dbabf2a4734b1b977c69e2ddb42-Twitter#gs.fUXhM5I
Also look at this, would this guy be in a hospital with wrappings but also blood all over his face? Surely they would have cleaned it up when they treated him. Might be a staged second photo.
>>59429938
MY EYES
>>59430039
No you filthy britbong, the point is that it's not a mental illness as it doesn't give a disadvantage to hompsexuals
A mental illness is defined as something that disadvantages someone in society/causes suffering to them. It doesn't do either, so it isn't a mental illness.
>>59423205
Should have been kaitlyn. Just saying.
>>59429698
>A mental illness is something that gives someone a disadvantage over other people in society.
This is wrong tho
>>59430225
Homosexuals have extreme mental trauma and have to go to brainwashing """"therapy""""" to "accept" themselves.
>>59423205
Calling it a mental illness will hurt fag's feelings. Therefore, not a mental illness. Changing the name of something changes its nature. Lib logic at its finest.
>>59423485
Why would you evolve to fuck a dirty orifice and contract a disease when you could just evolve to be impotent?
>because the idea that you would ever evolve in a way that somehow inhibits procreation is fucking stupid.
Overpopulation my ass, we'd evolve to want to kill more before we evolve to breed less.
>>59423648
You kill the gays first, because the Trannies eventually off themselves anyways.
>>59430104
Uhh. Why didn't t/he/y wash off the blood before bandaging the wound? That's fucking stupid and that picture reeks of horseshit. I'm not arguing that it didn't happen, I'm arguing the morality of making the injury seem more severe than the actuality and using the injury as a photo-op.
Its never truly been cured and should we even really bother? its just going to help with over population in the long run
>>59429698
spreading disease and molesting children have nothing to do with economic status
>>59430637
Because there will be homos that want to be normal?
>>59430555
trips tell me that u might be gay/ bi but have a hard time accepting it
>>59429938
haha
>>59423692
>we might as well legalize all that shit too
Oh dont you worry we will! There are no brakes on the progressive train.
>>59430104
>>59430754
He doesn't look like he's in a hospital there though.
>>59430555
i'll acknowledge you, giving you virtual hugs right now
WEEEEWEEEOO WEEEEEWOOOO
HOLD UP. YOUR UNDER ARREST ARE YOU RACIST BIGOTS SAYING THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A MENTAL ILLNESS. WHEN CLEARLY YOU ARE BORN WITH IT.
>>59423205
there are homos that are otherwise normal and there are straight fairies.
>>59430555
Under rated post.
>homosexuality exists in nature, hence it's natural!
>so does cancer, should we embrace cancer because it's natural?
>i-we-hom-homosexuality doesn't kill anyone!
>aids epidemic
>CHRISTIAN CHURCH, CONDOMS, SHAMING, GUILT, OPPRESSION, VICTIMIZATION
>>59430983
I born to destroy fag police cars
>>59423205
Homosexuality is simply an chemical imbalance in the brain which makes the person think its alright to lie down with other men, it can also come from giving into perverse ideas which results in a slow but steady growth into acceptance of faggotry which results in bisexuals.
Unfortunately its not an immediate threat to society, therefore its not stamped out or regulated and even defended as being perfectly okay. Also there is no tried and tested fix for it, people say bullets but homosexuality will always come back, you could kill all the gays on the earth but more will rise to take their place violence is not the solution.
>>59423280
Same shit.
>>59423205
I think it evolved to be a symptom of certain behavior in a society, which tends to limit populations, and can be subtly encouraged or discouraged in different demographics for better or for worse.
Bottoms happen like this:
>Society leads to abundance, everyone has food, shelter, and protection given to them in exchange for whatever work they can do
>Masculinity is not required for much of the work needed to keep society functioning, it's optional and often discouraged outside of military
>men that are used to being protected and taken care subconsciously want those features in a mate, they want a strong provider
On the other side with tops:
>Some men see the world around them as overpopulated and too fucked up to want to bring a child into
>Not wanting kids means woman are just for sex, not future wives and mothers
>Notice some men are starting to look as good as some women, and are way less annoying
>They're always down to fuck and eager to please, bend of backwards to make you happy, and are generally more tolerable human beings that are easier to get along with and more fun to hang out with
I don't think anyone is born gay, but I don't think it's wrong or unhealthy either on an individual level at least. It is however unhealthy on a large scale for a nation or a race, and as such, for the survival of a race or nation, should not be encouraged.
TL;DR Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>59431335
Probably because you yourself are a faggot and have been brainwashed into believing that fucking another man in the arse is healthy for an individual.
>>59431335
>I think it evolved to be a symptom of certain behavior in a society
>evolved
Cite some sources for why you think this, or else you're in the same magical natureland as the guy above.
>>59423280
Hey if they're passable enough that I don't have to watch what looks like two guys kissing in public then they can go nuts, by all means. That's the general attitude in many Asian countries, but Asians look effeminate to begin with. Unfortunately here in the US it translates to also letting fat hairy old men throwing on a wig and a dress then claiming they have a right to watch little girls change and shower. So... I don't know. I feel like that shit should stay in the bedroom, and I wouldn't care. I can't think of good arguments for giving them the rights they want considering how easily they can be abused.
>>59431335
>>59431890
TURBO
KEK
By definition, a mental illness is a mental or behavioral pattern that causes suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life.
Being gay doesn't cause suffering and are able to function just fine, therefore it is not a mental illness.
Gays target young people because young people have happy healthy anuses.
As humans get older, their anuses often develop issues, like hemorrhoids or fissures, and so the anus can hurt a lot, especially when pooping.
So older people are far less interested in faggy bullshit because they realize these faggy fudge packers are full of shit. They realize their lifestyle is very unhealthy and abnormal and fucking queer, you know?
>>59423205
Serious question.
I like transsexuals, but I dont like guys.
Am I gay?
>>59432260
You're confusing homosexuals with transexuals. Gender dysphoria is a real mental illness and causes suffering.
There is no evidence that gay individuals undergo suffering and trauma that isn't a result of persecution and social stigma. Deviation from a social norm is not a mental illness.
>>59432528
That's bullshit friendo. Do you even know what "acceptance therapy" is?
>>59432492
Do you fuck trannies? If so, then yes. Pre or post op, doesn't matter
>>59431725
I also said it's unhealthy on a large scale, unhealthy overall for a race or a nation you dumb fuck.
>>59431793
l didn't claim any of this is fact so I don't need to provide sources you dense motherfucker. I provided an explanation of the reasoning behind an opinion and it's not pro-gay at all.
Jesus Christ you homophobes are fucking dense. This is why people won't take anything against gays seriously. I'm not saying anything pro-gay, I provided logical reasoning for why homosexuality should not be encouraged. Then because it's not hateful or ignorant enough you sperg the fuck out.
Mental illness is a social construct
>>59432690
>didn't claim any of this is fact
So we can just ignore you then! Good to know.
>>59432594
Can you provide evidence that a majority or even a substantial percentage of homosexuals seek or undergo this therapy? I imagine it's of great value to a few who struggle with persecution, but most don't.
>>59432898
Yes, brainwashing people to be gay is "of great value".
Wow you leftists really are clinically insane.
When it comes down to it, isn't homosexuality and pedophilia the same kind of disease?
>>59432894
Do you not see how stupid what you are doing is? If you really want to make any meaningful change in your lifetime, you need to work together with people who agree with your general agenda. I am agreeing that homosexuality is bad for our country, and you dismiss everything I say because it's not extreme or hateful enough.
Being this extreme will only split the right and strengthen the left just as SJWs are splitting the left and strengthening the left. Don't be part of the problem, don't help the SJWs by making us all look like fucking idiots.
>>59433206
That's a nice ad hominem, but you've still failed to provide any evidence suggesting homosexuality causes suffering or that a majority of homosexual individuals require therapy in order to function.
If all you have to respond with is "leftists r crazy", I'm sure you can understand why your attitude is irrelevant and condemned by modern society. You're not going to convince anyone if you don't give them a reason to believe what you say.
>>59433515
I don't really give a shit if AIDS-ridden faggots can't handle the truth. Most people don't like you or want to associate with you. The only reason you're not in the institutions where you belong is because of the leftist media brainwashing people into PC-shaming.
In the UK we educate our children about sex. We have now to include homosex.
Do we tell our children anal sex is healthy and with out issues?
>>59434024
yes.
>>59433851
There's no reason for homosexuals to go in institutions because homosexuality is not a mental illness.
I'm still waiting on you to produce evidence supporting your argument. If you're using insults because you're frustrated that you can't, because no such evidence exists, that's okay. I'd be frustrated too.
>>59434363
it has always been a mental illness but the left got it taken off the list for their shitty agendas. you can't even lie right
>>59434363
Homosexuality is a deviance, we can all agree that. Whether or not it is a mental illness is still being debated amongst academics.
Homosexuality has naturally revolted across time and cultures. There has to be an inherited behavioral reason for this.
When the 'left' has to get to children with out parents consent and indoctrinate them that homosexuality is actually natural and okay, you know identity politics are at play here.
>>59423280
trans people are just men possessed/cursed by witches
i've never seen Brokeback Mountain before, since it's a homo movie, but i saw the sodomy scene on youtube yesterday.
i felt abused seeing it. it got a fucking 15 certificate. comedy horror movies can get 18 certificates, but a faggot spitting on his hand to lube up another man's rectum, then going balls deep is considered perfectly fine for 15 year olds to see
it's mindboggling
>>59434707
What agenda/s? Getting married? Equal protection?
>>59428243
How dare people use logic!
>>59430314
>extreme mental trauma
What the fuck are you even talking about? I have yet to experience this plague of mental trauma which you seem to believe exists.
>>59435174
No more explicit than any other pornography, which shouldn't be seen in a classroom regardless.
>>59431145
>forgetting that homosexual females have the lowest risk of HIV, less than straight people
Burgerfag is at it again.
>>59434957
is that a rareflag im seeing
>>59435174
It's the same as any other sex scene from a 15 cert film
>>59435382
Which you /pol/fags seem SO obsessed with, but it all goes out the window when it's convenient, doesn't it?
>>59435434
>sodomy is the same as procreational sex
LALALALALA LEFTISTS ARE SO FUCKING CRAZY WHO FUCKING BELIEVES THIS SHIT NO WONDER YOU FUCKING RETARDS HAVE SUCH LOW IQS
>>59431145
You can't compare a sexual preference and a fatal illness, tard.
AIDS is indiscriminate, and effects more straight people than gays, it's just anal sex is the easiest way to transmit it.
>>59430225
nigger it literally stops them from reproducing which is the single most important aspect of society get the fuck outa here trash
>>59435589
>implying people have sex for the sole purpose of procreation
Who's the retard again?
>>59435646
It doesn't STOP us from reproducing, it just makes us not WANT to. That can be considered an advantage.
>>59435589
>He legitimately and unironicially called anal sex "sodomy"
I don't abide by your book, kike. I buttfuck my woman without repercussions. It's fun and you should try it.
That line of argumentation also means that any recreational sex is also sodomy, you dumb christfag.
>>59423205
"Suck a nigga dick for a iPhone 6"
>>59435502
quite
I want all the fags to burn. If you're a fag or dyke, or bisexual, you should do the world a service and fucking kill yourself you piece of unholy shit. The Lord hates you, and he will fucking throw your lifeless body into the deepest echelons of hell. Killing gays is righteous for all in the eyes of the Lord.
Fucking cucks are ruining our lifestyles. Before we know it, they'll start forcing gay acceptance in schools and our youths will turn gay and lesbian and bisexual. Its already the norm now! If you're not bisexual here in the North-cucking-east, you're a "bigot." Well, if "bigot" means sound of mind, I sure as hell am!
If the Lord wills it, Trump will become president and rid our nation of the Gays and Lesbians. Oh, thank Him for sending Trump down and giving the Americans sense to vote for him! I am ecstatic: I can't fucking wait until Trump beats Shillary and finally sets America straight again.
>>59435351
destroying the value of love and monogamy. emasculating the modern man, and practically disease warfare with normal people. Fags aren't worth equal protection whenever everything they do affects us negatively
>>59435709
>comparing the two, ever
Kill yourself.
>>59423816
Absolutely based.
It's rather simple to prove at the very least that it's a detrimental trait for a specimen to possess. Why do great majority of men (and women, as a matter of fact, though in a lesser percentage I assume), have an innate disgust - or rather a natural instinct invoking the feeling of disgust and repulsiveness towards "gay" intercourse and it's perpetrators?
It's a natural instinct which exists for a reason, not a side-effect of any dogmatic indoctrination as fag enablers would like everyone to believe.
>>59435923
this
>>59430225
You are being rather disingenuous if you deny that homosexuals have a huge amount self doubt and confliction issues. Even with the support of a loving and accepting family, they still know they are a deviant. They still know that they are excluded from society norms that further humanity.
They only have a semblance of acceptance because of, lets face it, indoctrination of the young and weak minded and a heavy dose of bullying for the rest of us. Congratulations. Your acceptance has been forced on folk through hate speech laws. Nice. Well earned victory.
But we all know faggots would turn hetro at touch of a button if they could. And parents would want it too.
>>59435946
Fags getting married does not in any way hamper you from getting married or falling in love.
Fags getting married doesn't emasculate modern men in any way. That statement makes no sense.
Fags fucking other fags only transmits aids to other fags, so unless you're buttfucking other men it won't matter unless AIDS also effects straight people. Oh wait.
You disliking something doesn't mean they aren't people who have equal rights.
>>59434707
The DSM listed homosexuality as a disorder for a total of 22 years before it was removed, from 1952 to 1974. Twenty-two years is not "always has". The notion that homosexual urges are pathological at all is Sigmund Freud's invention circa 1905, quack that he was. People have had homosexual relations for the entire history of western civilization, and people have variously condemned them as an abominable sin, or a moral degeneracy plaguing society, but no one until the 20th century thought there was something mentally wrong with gays, which is an incredibly recent development even by the standards of psychological medicine.
>>59434901
It's possible it could tie in with the theory that homosexuality emerges as a form of population control. When it becomes too common, fear and anger is an evolved response by the rest of the population to begin setting people straight, so to speak, and getting reproduction back on track. The ideas that gayness is a sin or that it's immoral could be rationalizations of those emotions.
>>59435778
only in specific cases it can be advantageous but many places where homosexuality exists arent severely over populated so majority of instances arent beneficial
>>59436134
We also feel disgust when we see child-birth, does that mean the act of bearing a child is in any sense bad or morally wrong?
You don't know how to think philosophically, like the majority of this board.
Appealing to nature is a fallacy.
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;" Luke 6:37
"There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" James 4:12
"Jesus said unto him, “‘Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it: ‘Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”" Matthew 22:37-40
>>59435646
Isn't them not reproducing a good thing?
Shit, forgot to tag.
>>59435923
See here: >>59436372
>>59436372
Stop it Singapore, it's mean to put bible-thumpers in their place with their own book.
>>59423906
Feminism is even worse for a race's prospects than a communist enforced one-child policy.
>>59436315
Do you want our genetics in the gene pool or not? If you don't, It'd make sense for you guys to let us do whatever the fuck we want to do.
>>59436372
>Christfags
>Ever reading the whole thing
>>59436372
You should be arrested.
>>59423205
I honestly believe the number of homosexuals is on the rise as a symptom of how fucked our society has become over the last 35 years, especially the last 15.
I think it's more of a choice but for most it's subconscious.
I would honestly go full homo if I didn't find the idea of intimacy with a man physically revolting.
So instead I've just stayed single with a random fuck from time to time from chicks that were desperate enough to approach me (no fatties).
If there is a physical/genetic cause, I don't believe it accounts for the majority of them.
>>59436517
对不起
>>59436537
dont get me wrong im not against homosexuality at all, if youre into dick you can take 5 a day for all i care. I just hate people deluding themselves into thinking its something its not that should be cherished
>>59423205
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and you need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
>>59423485
>le overpopulation meme
>>59436629
Wow you are fucking retarded.
>I think it's more of a choice but for most it's subconscious.
>I would honestly go full homo if I didn't find the idea of intimacy with a man physically revolting.
So it's not a choice, why are Americans allowed to exist?
>>59436612
I know. No man has the right to blow Christians the fuck out by doing the same cherry picking they do when they justify hatred with their book.
>>59436612
For quoting the Bible? Okay kiddo.
>>59436538
Could it be that *gasp* they only take into account the parts convenient?
>>59436365
Poor attempt at making a false dichotomy. In the case of childbirth, one is potentially disgusted due to "extreme" form of the change which the body undergoes in a short time span. Needless to say, the process itself is a natural necessity and is viewed as such, in comparison to the act of two males or females making out or having anal.
It's hardly a appeal to nature, considering there are no others grounds (especially moral ones) upon which this issue can be discussed with objectivity included.
>>59436686
It shouldn't be CHERISHED, but there's nothing wrong with me.
>>59436226
then why do you want fag ideals pushed on children? Why do fags want to marry in chapels of religions that don't except them? Why do they feel the need to flaunt their sexuality all the time like one dimensional tools?
>>59436249
it still is considered a mental illness to those of us that don't lie to ourselves. You fags could learn a thing or two from that.
>>59436435
assuming its genetic yeah sure
>>59436779
Male homosexuality is illegal in Singapore.
>>59436867
We don't want to push ideals onto your children any less then you do, you know, with your taking them to Church since early childhood, and indoctrination of your subjective beliefs.
And could you provide your extensive research proving that homosexuality is a disorder?
>>59436714
We make decisions beneath the surface.
We fail or refuse to put them into words or even admit our true motivations to ourselves.
If you refuse to properly examine your own motivations, that doesn't make it any less of a decision.
>I attack people and all who share a politically defined landmass with them based on a few lines I took no time to consider, nor did I ask for clarification
>Germans everyone?
No, I'm kidding.
I've met Germans I liked.
Maybe even you, because you would be less of a dick face to face.
>>59436816
You have no basis for what you're saying, there is nothing that indicates to you that people find homosexuality revolting because it is -bad-, similarly you could make the case because it is something that isn't seen often and that is the root of the disgust people experience when faced with it.
Which you could also project onto the situation of child-birth, but none of this is consequential because this is merely making uneducated guesses, you have no basis for the things you believe.
It is by definition an appeal to nature though, a very clear case of one.
>or rather a natural instinct invoking the feeling of disgust and repulsiveness towards "gay" intercourse and it's perpetrators?
We can discuss it objectively, once we find objective merits that fence a definition for illness and whether being gay fits into that definition or not.
>>59436861
there kinda is. It's not a bad thing but somethings out of order in there
>>59437003
No... PUBLIC homosexuality is illegal, and it's rarely enforced.
Gays suffer from a severe psychotic disorder where they believe fucking each other in the arse is equal to a man and a woman having procreational sex.
This is what faggots actually believe. They believe they are equal to straights.
Anti-psychotics should be prescribed to combat this delusion.
>>59436994
Honestly, as a homosexual, I don't buy it. There could be a genetic contribution to it, but it has to be largely environmental.
>>59437101
How so?
>>59437107
This is what cuckservatives actually believe. Don't be like Jerry here. Jerry never was the smartest of children.
>>59437081
You still said something retarded though.
"I'm not gay, but if I were gay I'd do gay things that proves that being gay is a choice"
>>59437200
>as a homosexual
This is your fate if you don't change your deviant ways
>>59437404
Nothing? I expected as much.
>>59436466
Of course this inferior Asian cuck believes in faggotry and sodomy. You probably take it up the ass yourself!
Do not use the Bible's words to defend the evil against which it warns! If you are a Christian, you are a heretic. If you are an Atheist/mudslime/whatever, you have no right to quote His word without being of His following.
>>59437223
every species on earth has evolved for millions of years with the single common purpose of surviving and preserving the species, and if you have a trait that goes against this, ie homosexuality, something is definitely not right
>>59435644
So gay people are more likely to contract and share it? You're just aiding his point.
>>59437341
Some people can fuck fat and ugly women too.
I'm not one of them.
That doesn't make it not a choice.
>>59436372
Let me help you out with that one:
>Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned Luke 6:37
>There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" James 4:12
Quoting God's judgement of fornicators is not one's own judgement per se
>love thy neighbor as thyself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”" Matthew 22:37-40
Being a raging faggot leads to hell. What, if not love, is that which encourages salvation?
>>59423485
>implying animals cant be mentally ill
I think it is time the gay and trans movement separated. There may be a kinship with regards to acceptance but the conflation is not helping the gay cause at all.
Teachers are reporting a sudden explosion of children believing they are 'trans' that never occurred before the trans movement attached themselves to the gay acceptance cause. Trans issues are getting sympathy but very little across the board acceptance that the gay movement has achieved.
>>59423205
Because you can choose whether you OP a thread or not
>>59423205
You don't have to prove a negative you have to prove a positive.
>>59423284
That's a retarded argument thats like saying a black person can't choose their skin color so it must be a disorder.
>>59437460
>THAT PART OF THE BIBLE DISAGREES WITH ME! I DON'T LIKE IT! HERETIC! HERETIC! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
And you have the nerve to call me a faggot.
Furthermore:
>believing whites are superior to asians
>>59437484
That isn't true though. Plenty of species engage in homosexuality, and some even use it as a means to reproduce.
>>59437484
Appeal to nature fallacy.
Are people who don't want to have kids mentally ill too?
>>59436226
You are a race traitor and cuck. I do not care if this is an ad hominem attack, as you are not considered a "man," and therefore the term "hominem" does not apply to you. This is an ad PRAVUS attack.
YES, forcing the houses of the Lord NOT to turn down these abominations, and making good Christians serve these followers of SATAN IS harmful to me. You are for corruption, and you are for the degeneration of the white race! You are a KEK, a JEW, and a RACE TRAITOR. Go back to the echelon of hell from which you came.
I'd Rather be bi than be a cuckservative or a bleeding heart lib
>>59437599
>Plenty of species engage in homosexuality, and some even use it as a means to reproduce.
nigga what? you cant reproduce with 2 men
>>59436867
I suppose if I don't think seizures are demonic possessions, I'm lying to myself about that too, yeah?
You're upset and frustrated that something that personally disgusts you is no longer stigmatized by society. Your tribal impulses compel you to be afraid of and lash out at people who don't live the way you prefer. You are an animal among people. A scared, feral dog, cornered, growling and snapping at workers who only want the best for it and the community.
There is no reckoning coming. No Day of the Rope. You will not be vindicated. You know people like you are becoming scarcer and meeker, and that's why you're venting on an imageboard instead of out on the streets with a placard. Love is winning every day, and whether you've realized it or not, you're ready to go whimpering quietly into the night.
>>59437564
Top kek.
>>59437520
Thing is: God has the right to judge us, but He and He alone does. He specifically told you guys to live and let live.
Besides, if I'm going to be burning in hell for who I love, at least I should get the best out of my remaining sixty years.
>>59437611
To shut you up
http://youtu.be/_3z274JaOg8
>>59437599
just cause other species do it doesnt mean its not bad, other species can experience depression does that mean its good?
>>59437200
>as a homosexual
And now the opinion goes straight into the bin.
>>59437092
>We can discuss it objectively, once we find objective merits that fence a definition for illness and whether being gay fits into that definition or not.
You still completely fail to understand that there are no established "objective merits" to properly form a ground for discussion in the first place. The scientific consensus shifts at rapid and frequent rate so it's for all intents and purposes not wholly valid, hence you have to approach the issue from pure biological perspective.
My basis stands on personal observation and gathered experience from the same, so take that as you will, but when you magically form up the objective standards to discuss this issue, please do inform me, for until then my "uneducated guesses" are as valid as yours, and we can go back and forth into infinity.
>>59437733
Actually though. Certain animals engage in homosexual behaviour to attract females. It turns them on.
>>59437599
Honestly, white Nations conquered your people and civilized them. They are superior, no doubt about it!
I do not only have the /nerve/ to call you faggot, but I do have the utmost desire to BURN you. Sadly, I'd have to spend money on getting to where you are, and no faggot is worth my money.
If you support faggots, you are a faggot.
>>59437748
>remaining 60 years
With the AIDs you're gonna catch in the next few years it would be hard for you to survive the next 10.
Praying you die a slow painful death along with all other gays
>>59437748
>he
How you know, god is a man? Maybe he Identifies as a genderfluid helicopter
>>59437802
>as a Britbong
You're one to talk.
>>59437800
Alright, but why exactly is homosexuality bad?
>>59423485
Some all powerful natural element suddenly thinks "hmm there are too many humans, time to make this one homosexual."
That is not how it works pal.
>>59437008
>expecting me to pull facts up on a whim
look it up yourself scumbag
also I don't take my kids to church. We don't need religion to be moral. I don't go out in the streets to throw bibles at people or hold up signs saying kill all fags. I want my kids futures to be decent ones and seeing mental illnesses like homosexuality and trannies accepted in schools and society means that civilization is one step closer to destruction
>>59437891
What the fuck happened to 'Love thy neighbour'?
>>59437870
>retarded faggot thinks that he has the right to judge when it is convenient.
Stop committing heresy, thanks.
>>59437898
Get the fuck off that proxy Australia.
>>59437656
that guy is ignorant and knows nothing
>>59423205
Hey Australia, we're having a rational conversation about something using well sourced facts and data!!
>>59437835
ok well they be gay to be straight better? even so thats not the case with humans so irrelevant.
>>59437926
again, because it goes against the ability to reproduce which is necessary for a species to evolve and survive
>>59437980
>expecting you to prove a point
How dare I.
You sound like a fucking SJW.
>>59437741
won't win if you're all shot... and as a father I can only imagine the personal disgrace you are to your own family therefore you're all in the streets taking your emotions out on everyone else instead of keeping to yourselves like good abominations.
>>59438026
No homosexual is my neighbor
>>59437748
Can't really let you do that mate.
God has full sovereignty over your life. And, as such, it is your duty to freely obey him.
It is also a Christian's duty to love his neighbour. So shall he strive for every man's repentance. By humane means of course
>>59438068
>not the case with humans
What about bisexuals?
>goes against the ability to reproduce
Since so many people here consider homosexuality degenerate behaviour, wouldn't it make sense for them not to want us to reproduce?
Not everyone needs to reproduce, and even if that was a problem, we could just donate to sperm banks if need be. If it comes down to the survival of the human race, I wouldn't refuse. The fact of the matter is that we're not relevant.
>>59438068
>arguing with the mentally ill
Why? He'll never admit it. He know it deep down and so does his country that outlaws homosexuality.
>>59438026
Please stop taking it up the ass. I know you Asians love to dress like girls and fuck eachother. Degeneracy everywhere.
Its not heresy when the target is not a Christian, and is not my neighbor cuck. Lel, this retard!
>>59437766
What are you trying to say?
I'm not watching a 5 minute video to extract information you want me to know.
Tell me yourself what you think.
>>59437821
No you don't, I agree that it is difficult to find any quasi-objective standards for naturalistic statements in a science like medicine, but we can make up definitions that were defined under the supervision of -objective- guidelines, we have an objective understanding for all kinds of soft-terms that could be dismantled by bringing up the claim that all is subjective, the notion of illness, cure, health, beauty, poverty, whatever it is.
We can still roam around in a space that has certain objective boundaries, and we can determine whether or not homosexuality moves in the field of mental illness or is totally removed from it.
Also again, you are arguing with a fallacy. We can't adhere to nature and make normative statements based on that, it doesn't work for good reasons, arguably rape and imperialism are things that would be permitted under nature's pure law.
But even if we were to look at biology exclusively, that -still- involves the problem of subjectivity that you summoned earlier.
Whatever you mean by that of course doesn't matter, whether you're again adhering to the principles of nature or are appealing to the majority of people who are not gay.
>>59438124
an sjw? like you? who can't accept the fact that the truth is out there and you can't silence it. you shouldn't even care anyways you're just a dirty gook
>>59438196
If you want to try and 'convert' me to heterosexuality, do whatever the fuck you want. It's not like I'm going to listen. But the minute you infringe on my rights is when we have a problem.
>>59438170
>not understanding that the term neighbour isn't meant to be taken literally
I'm the one with a mental illness. Sure.
>>59438419
>>not understanding that the term neighbour isn't meant to be taken literally
Not understanding that, as a Protestant, the word of the Bible is to be taken literally.
>>59438416
>can't accept the fact
The fact that you refuse to produce? You have the burden of proof, not me. I'm not going to prove anything for you.
>>59438340
Someone's jealous.
>>59438520
So is the Bible meant to be taken literally or not? Because even if it is, my point still stands.
>>59438277
>What about bisexuals?
they dont fuck men to get with women they just fuck men cause they like them
never said i wanted you to reproduce, just that it goes against basic human nature which most people see as a bad thing
>>59438584
We're literally like 3% of the population. Like I said, on the whole scheme of things, we're irrelevant.
>>59438156
So get to shooting. No, you won't. You certainly aren't going to fire a gun at anyone. You have too much to live for, and you know you'll be put down like a rabid mongrel if you act on your fantasies. Who's going to raise your kids if you throw everything away to kill the fags you hate so much?
You're going to change. Maybe your kids are gay. One, maybe both. Maybe they'll make a gay friend at school and they'll spend enough time away from you to learn they're people just trying to make it through the day like everyone else. Maybe that gay friend will become a gay lover. You know they will hate you if you don't change. You're going to give up, you already have. You've been preparing yourself to go gently into that good night without a fight. You have no choice.
