How and when exactly do you think the next civil war will break out?
>>58986133
Honestly if Trump wins, I think he can bring us back to being countrymen, not "white vs black" and all these identity politics.
if its ever revealed how corrupt the govt is and who. Then I'm sure there will be a large demand in removing people from power. The government will refuse, and the people will have to use force.
>>58986407
We already know how corrupt they are though
Literally never, Americans are too absorbed in their own doctrine to consider a revolt. Even if there was a full-blown dictatorship installed, it would crush the citizens without mercy
>Oh but we're AMERICANS we are the exception to the rule! A dictatorship could never rule us
Whatever, keep believing that if it makes you happy
>>58986133
If anyone actually tried to take the guns
If trump tries to run third party and is comptely shut out trough the cure option of both parties.
^thjs would have to be some pretty blatant obvious shit though
>>58986133
Income inequality and the oppressive white cis male patriarchy will unite all people of color to topple the current corrupt regime.
White racists BTFO
Not until basic necessities are threatened.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
No one is going to fight when they live comfortable lives.
>>58986133
next disaster. people here are more on edge than i have ever seen before.
>>58986497
>a Brit speaking on behalf of all Americans
>>58986229
I would fight to the death against fact scum like that.
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Go ahead and call the gestapo I don't give a fuck.
It's honestly getting to the point. I'm starting to not care about others knowing my unpopular opinions on social topics and we are slowly dividing as a country. Everyone feels they need to be apart of this fight for freedom or fight for justice.
I believe it's coming soon unless some massive event happens that brings us all together as one again
>>58986678
Facist* scum
Jesus, even my phone is in on it.
>>58986133
There will be a military coup as the kikes in corporate get too greedy for their own good. The military consists of the people they periodically fuck over, and they could easily kill them all if they decided to go rogue. Personally I think the military will get tired of the bullshit and coup the government and oligarchs. Similar to Rome with Caesar.
>>58986743
>I believe it's coming soon unless some massive event happens that brings us all together as one again
>>58986407
>optimistic and idealistic.
It's when the welfare system fails from all the monkeys draining the money out. They'll run out of food and come out of the citys, and all the people that have been stock piling weapons and ammo for the last 16 years will be ready. Liberalism will fall from power that day.
>>58986133
>How?
Racial or class tensions, of course.
>When?
It'll definitely be within the next 10-20 years if Trump loses.
Increasingly radicalized racial, social, and political groups stooping into acts of violence and the Fedgov using a heavy hand to stop it.
>>58986497
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29
>>58986678
You already live on your knees.
>>58986678
I know that feel anon, all fascist and commie scum alike deserve two in the chest and one in the head. Sadly there are very few true patriots left around.
>>58986558
this
and police wont help you they will be busy defending themselves and families
>>58986514
This. The government will shoot first.
>>58986133
we can save Amerca and the World by stopping the jews who are trying to destroy everything
ADL, SPLC, Goldman sachs
>>58986133
When whites become a minority. Tension will increase further. We will get to see it.
>>58987206
The military wont back them they'd have to have the support of an "ss" type faction. Like I said in my other post, the military will most likely coup the government and oligarchs at some point. Actually if you observe the Roman Empire and the USA there are startling similarities. The degeneracy and greed today are similar to what happened before Caesar took control of the empire through military means.
>>58986895
More like 10-20 days.
>>58986133
Never.
There will inevitably be a second revolution, but I doubt a civil war will occur when national consciousness is so high- and the establishment will inevitably lose the second revolution when most of the military refuses to support them.
>>58986678
>>58987068
you live under fascism right now and neither of you are on your feet to stop it.
hard to say
>>58987408
Sure. What do you think would be the breaking point for the military though? Will it just be one of their typical annual power grabs in Washington? I have heard so many negative comments from them against the Obama administration.
>>58987584
>you live under fascism right now
>>58987545
>There will inevitably be a second revolution
>>58987068
nice mlp shirt and mosin nagant you got there, comrade!
>>58987331
>When whites become a minority. Tension will increase further.
so I guess we kill & eat them
>>58986312
this, if hillary is elected the civil war will come
>>58987666
I think if they get caught doing something heinous like financing isis. Which technically they've done, but there's no direct evidence. There's also other things like the weird torture experiments the government was doing and was hushed by the news. Tbh when the soldiers realize they live in a fascist country they'll probably revolt. Not to mention their benefits are getting shittier, and their financial situations more dire. Save from all that a new economic depression is virtually inevitable. When people are driven to the brink they'll fight against the men that caused the mess. Power will shift temporarily to the military, then I'm not sure what'll happen. Probably a collapse of the USA like with Rome, but we'll see.
>>58986646
>people here are more on edge than i have ever seen before.
he's 12
>>58986133
>Energy sector HYG implodes, and spreads to the broader bond market
>Eventually it makes it to US Treasuries
>Treasuries become worthless
>US Dollar crisis
>Oil imports dry up
>EBT either becomes useless or goes away
>Category 10 chimpout ensues
>Supply chains break
>Government crackdown on people protesting the unavailability of food
>Chaos, when people start shooting back
National Socialism.............
>>58987545
>>58987408
Oh and, what about foreign military?
How do you think the rest of the world would respond to a revolution of this kind? Do you think other countries or internationals orgs would defend the special interest groups that have been controlling the United States, or would other nations actually help the US military? Whenever I hear about this, I find it hard to believe that a revolution so profound can just happen without starting a huge global upset.
>>58988056
Russia has already said they'd back a Texas secession movement.
>>58986558
No one is going to fight when they live comfortable lives.
>>58988172
SHIIIIIIIIEEEEEET
>>58987408
So what you're saying is Donald Trump is America's Julius Caesar?
>>58988056
A 21st Century American Revolution would upset the life of everyone single person on this planet. Every major developed country (except Russia) would feel the impact of the 16 trillion dollar debt bubble and bond failure. The largest military presence in the world would implode, and foreign aid would become non existant. If/when it ever happens.
>>58988056
The US military is the most powerful in the world. Any special interest defense groups would easily be cut down if they actually decided to coup the US government. The generals would probably negotiate with world leaders while the whole mess of reestablishing democracy would be dealt with. In the meantime there'd probably be summary executions of politicians and their financiers done. Remember this is all predicated on an intense financial collapse most likely, so the rest of the world will probably have a similar revolt. Judging by how humans have reacted to intense fascism and abuse by governments in the past this scenario is quite likely by the 21st century's end.
>>58986646
Coming from someone who is posting from mommy's lap
>>58988345
Maybe, although I doubt it because this would be an anti capitalist movement most likely. Again predicated on an intense financial collapse, which given past trends is implied to be far worse as fiscal systems experience more variance as time spans.
>>58986678
Just get back on your knees jamal and put those lips back to work doing what they where made for. You are gay.
>>58988359
Wrong. Even RUS.
>>58986646
No shit. I make double minimum wage and have to slowly pay off any small purchase. I'm graduated from college and don't have any debt, so I'm a fucking unicorn.
>>58987862
Other than pure laziness, what is America waiting for?
>>58988599
I think that's debatable. Russia doesn't rely on America for a whole lot of anything. Maybe secondarily, but they'll have time to figure something out. Maybe even take advantage.
>>58988684
Read ^^^
For basic necessities to be eliminated. For welfare to collapse, power grids to fail, that kind of thing. We've got a few years, if nothings done, only a few years.
>>58986133
It will probably revolve around an election, like CW1 did with Lincoln. The big issue will either be immigration, or separation of church and state.
>>58986497
That's the kind of thinking that lost you the colonies m8.
Check the document we sent you folks circa 1776. Pretty much explains all you need to know about American attitudes towards tyranny.
We'll put up with shit until the point where we can't live our lives without addressing it. When that happens, our enemies should prepare their anus.
A third of this country is absolutely reliant on the feds for their day to day existence - food stamps, subsidized housing, "disability". Many millions more are house slaves (government employees). Nothing happens until the fake money runs out.
>>58986497
But if it crushes its citizens they have a full blown revolt from the rest. And natural allies that are against the US government can come into help the citizens. Not to mention you think the military will shoot down their own families? The way the US won against the british was revolution+French assistance. There are plenty of enemies of the current US government, the only thing keeping them at bay is the allegiance of the citizens to the current US regime. Without the support of the citizens you lose the military eventually, and then your enemies swoop in to kill you. The establishment can't afford to attack its own citizens because they're the only thing between them and the Russians, terrorists, China etc.
>>58987695
He's right though. It's just not overtly fascist.
>>58986133
If some lib tried to take my guns, they'd have to pry them out of my cold dead hands
>>58986133
It'll follow a civil war breaking out in Europe, probably in Sweden or Germany.
My money is on 2022.
>>58989176
Thats just it. This is what maintains the balance of power in the U.S.
Good post Anon
>>58987466
actually, i'd say 10-20 weeks
tops
>>58987695
wake up nigger
>>58986133
The Americans are going to find out that Bush did 9/11 over a business deal and has been keeping technology back 15-20 years, then shit will kick off.
>>58987862
Then I will say something I never though I would say: Please vote Hillary.
I promise I will come help fight.
>>58992501
>keeping technology back 15-20 years
Especially if that means that 3D virtual reality waifu technology has been held back.
>>58992319
Shit needs to pop economically first. Then, it will go fast enough to make your head spin. Like I posted above, wait for a bond crisis.
>>58993411
trips comment, then a dubs one
i can tell what you say is true
>>58992673
>Beta uprising
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>58986497
>implying a despot could control the U.S.
This is copypasta but it applies.
If there was a revolution in the US the rest of the world would of the world would get involved fast. And depending on the type of uprising there is a large chance that it would not be a quick affair. It would be brutal, it would be bloody and the US Government and it could start a global scale war.
1: The US powergrid could be taken down by a series of surgical strikes, with the exception of the Texas grid. By surgical strikes, a few marksmen(US army tier- the min requirement) hitting certain spots on the grid would fuck a lot of the military and government up because they need the grid more than bubba and friends do. Additionally, while all the governments agencies have backup generators- they will be hard pressed dealing with the resultant looting and other madness that would come with power outages. This would effectively create another front for the military. It would also turn the people against the Government quicker and paralyze the governments propaganda machine. Worse still- the key points of the US powergrid are public obtainable information and not only are the points too many to be effectively guarded, they are not guarded anyway. This was always the number 1 issue.
2: An estimated desertion rate in case of a civil war is 75% in the case of a left wing president. %50 of that would be assumed to immediately betray the president. The army would be fighting its own. Yet another front created in this war. Additionally, there is an assumed 25-50% desertion or outright betrayal rate in three letter government agencies. Additionally there is also an assume 5% of the 50% betrayers would stay in their job and become saboteurs. Additionally 10% of that 50% would contain key information that would be of critical danger to the US government. Of that 10%, 1% would be able to deliver that information to the US's foreign enemies.
>>58986757
Its spelled fascist you faggot
>>58994412
What you should get from this is that the second the US declares war on it's own is the second is ceases to exist as the state we know it.
3: "tbaggers" and "right-wing extremists" and "oathkeepers" which are considered untrained racists who aren't good with a gun are often
a) veterans who now have more time to have fun at the range, sometimes more than some army units or marine units. In addition to previous military training
b) often camp and do other outdoor activities, more than many in the military do as the focus has gone away from field exercise and
c) often have better equipment outside of armor and heavy weapons than the military. However c) is kind of irrelevant because many of the places these people could hide would make the kind of war the US fights with the equipment they use pointless.
4: Outside influence is a huge fucking problem. Russia has already stated that they would back any texas seperation movement, and right now we already have enough problem keeping radical islam in check. The second US has to fight in a Civil War is the second it becomes a proxy war between NATO and whoever wants to fuck with America. While America has amazing nuclear defense and air defense, if it comes to a civil war you have to assume that in a best case scenario the US military is going to be operating at 75% at best. Shit would go down hard and fast, and if Russia(spoiler alert: one of the best militaries in the world at fighting in an urban environment) sent fucking trainers and helpers to the rebels, you can reliably bet that they would also possibly deliver weapons to the rebels. So instead of fighting timmy teabagger, you're fighting timmy teabagger who is buddies with vlad.
>>58994770
5: Based Russiabro has stated the number one reason why a civil war is not just the US versus the rebels. There will be looting, rioting and cities will burn. The national guard cannot fight both the rebellions and rioters in a city that would also kill off their supplies. Additionally if you don't think that the rebels will send in instigators into the cities or worse stand alone actors(A Lone Wolf on steroids. Think Timothy McVeigh but instead of one van they have a whole god damn fleet of them. A good movie example would be Bane) would be god damn mistaken. Additionally, if the US govrnment cannot even help it's own people, why would it's own people support it's military. Worse yet, if someone emptied out prisons(There are a FUCKTON of prisoners in the US. about the size of oh- I dunno THE ENTIRE CHINESE ARMY) you would have more crime than the police could ever handle.
6: Logistics and infrastructure in the US are crumbling and falling. Any war fought against a rebellion in the US would be a logistical nightmare even before the rebels started going full Al-Qaeda and putting IEDS in the roads. A fucking retired general who was contracting with us on a team said "the only thing holding together the US's infrastructure is basically duct tape and the will of the department of transportation. And often there isn't enough ductape" Your most loyal cities to the US Government, as have been polled are also the most logistically easy to cut off. NYC? SF? LA? DC? Baltimore? Most of them require crossing water to get into from certain directions. Most of them have critical air ports. Some of them have critical ocean ports. If anything happened to just TWO of the cities on the list would create a logistical clusterfuck.
7: Your "Johnny Reb" and "Timmy TeaBagger" states, red states all have something most of your "oh so progressive" "Aren't we so european" "Oh my god we are just like sweden" don't. Blue states are for the most part consumer states, not producer
>>58995312
Urban areas don't have farms. The second shit goes down. Realize a lot of those blue areas are likely to starve. In a civil war scenario it's predicted that at least 10,000 people would die of starvation if the war was not finished in a year. The numbers get worse after that.
8: The US has way too many choke points and the government forces would often be on the wrong side of them. This ties into the logistical nightmare- but it also has to do with an odd phenomena. Liberals like to live near the ocean. Many of the diviers of the country, like the rocky mountains, the mississippi river, appalacia. The Missouri River(Fun fact: The biggest choke point for the US Government is in Missouri) are red state areas. Sure air travel is a thing, but the majority of the US governments needs would have to travel by ground and even still many of the major airports are outside of the city. Of course the US would use military base air fields. But if civil war did break out- which bases would be safe? Which ones would have fallen?
9: PR nightmare. Every rebel killed on CNN would be spun as "The US government killed X Civilians today in a strike" on RT. That is- as it was pointed out earlier- if the US media could even function in a civil war or an uprising. Your "Rebel Scum" know that the main thing that holds together the US, nay life in the US as we know it is the 24 hour news cycle and the media. The second it's gone you are gonna have urban anarchy. If you are from America, can you imagine a day without TV. Newspaper or Internet? Your average urban youth can't and if you don't think that isn't going to cause rioting you must have a real high regard for how much restraint they have. Assume that in a civil war, that your ability to talk to the people is compromised. Also assume that in the case of a civil war- that rebels may know how to monitor conversations like the US does, as there are FUCKING MANUALS on how to do so.
>>58995841
10: This one is either one or ten, depending on who is asked. The US will never nuke its own. The second is does they have lost the civil war and other countries come to "liberate" the US from its own repressive regime. Additionally, if any general, minuteman, nuke tech, or nuke sub captain decided to side with the rebellion is the second the US government is SOL
tldr: A civilian uprising or extremist group terrorist attack that turns into Civil War is the second the US loses.
You will never see a Civil War. You will see Waco, you will see Bundy Ranch, you will see all sorts of militant group confrontations and maybe even some skirmishes, but the US government fears it's own people way the fuck too much to ever start a civil war.
>>58986678
>>58986133
When grand theft auto 6 gets banned.
