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So, it seems ukraine gonna become another member of friendly european brotherhood.
What is pol opinion?
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>>58964537
That you're an idiot.
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>>58964537
Here's my opinion, in music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWhtPByViJU
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>>58964537
George Soros is probably happy
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Well if it means that I can buy myself an Ukrainian mail order bride and import her without restriction thanks to the European citizenship, then I'm all for it.
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>>58965393
Same here, although Italy you already have beautiful women.
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>>58964537
You're a goddamn clown who's getting played both by Russia and the US.
I wish you'd be like Switzerland, with your own opinion on everything, but oh well, enjoy your cockroach Saakashvili and piggy Poroshenko whose father was in jail for stealing from the state, you moron
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>>58965393
This. Ukraine has even better whores than Russia.
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>>58964537
Welcome! Welcome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UjZEktkDC0
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>>58964537
Trafficking Ukrainian girls to Brazil should become easier this way. I approve.
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>>58964537
haha only in your dreams.. serbia will become eu 2019, ukraine never

the few politicans who want you will be gone in a few years, nationalism is rising in the eu, and most ppl favour russia over ukraine in the whole krim thing

every time ukraine is in european news, its about you going broke, you dont paying gas bills, you stealing our gas, you getting money from eu we need ourself...
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>>58965632
>be like Switzerland,
>with your own opinion on everything

That's a god damn lie, and you know it.
We don't care about anything - at all.
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>>58964537

Didn't the MOSAD Jew who is your current head-of-state sell all your gold already?

Also say goodbye to your remaining natural resources. Gas, land, water everything.

If you had half a brain you'd side with Putin.
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Welcome Russia !
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Why does Ukraine want to join the EU, when they're already poor? I don't get it.
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>>58964537

Nii,

Budyt ploha yesly ukrayina piedyot vu EU
EU hoch tibye hrabuvat
Ukraiynu uuv syem nusha byt svabodne, nykavo doveriyut, nii Eu ii nii Putin
Yasna?
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>>58967373
Kek, I understand it perfectly.
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So ukraine will be last nail in coffin. It's good too, isn't it? And there'll be another unkukable country, so that kuk countries could learn.
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>>58967373
Damn it that's probably cave man level Ukrainian, I lived there for 1.2 years back in the 90's after the Soviets broke down, I was assigned to help them rebuild their business networks restructure them and such things. I barely picked up on the language and that's probably the best semi coherent paragraph could vomit out. Christ
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>>58964537
pay debts
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>>58966414
You did outlaw burkas tho
That's gotta take some balls in 2015
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>>58968030
Russian owes one man 50 billions. What it's 3 years budget.
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>>58968047
didn't frogs also outlaw them? are they brave and white now? lol
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Honestly I think west ukraine + new right tilted Poland should unite (and maybe hungry, slovakia too)

And say fuck eu and fuck putin it's the best chance they've got to put a foot down to the Jewish cuckery

Just look past the hassar domination on the Ukrainians side
And look past the slaughter from banderas and kmelnetsky on Poland's side
Ukraine and Poland have always been brothers, just look past the abuse both of you have suffered from each other I know that sounds har but think of it, a glorious exclusive transslavic union state (ETSUS?)

Think of the glory of combining trade ports from the blatic sea to the black sea
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>>58968186
What.
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>>58968834
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
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>>58969262
Good thing he has nothing to do with Ukraine.

Pay dembts.
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>>58969350
how much does Ukraine needs to pay for the gas that they used?
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>>58969599
They need to pay $3 billions that we lent them before the coup.
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>>58969702

You fucking svoliches are never getting that shit back stay butthurt suka

You mad because Russia's economy is going down the shit hole and your trying to drag ukraine down with it

Have you medieval idiots even fixed Crimeas power yet, Putin won't protect Russian citizens he can't even provide them with God damn electricity
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>>58969946

You're*
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>>58969946
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>>58968589
Rather won't work, of course what you wrote is a part of our foreign policy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giedroyc_Doctrine
but Ukrainian nationalism, historiography and literature are particularly anti-Polish. We simply belong to two different civilizations - in the beginning of their history they chose Russia over the Commonwealth and this is where they belong nowt. On the other hand another union - V4+Croatia and Slovenia would be quite reasonable and effective.
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>>58970069
>in the beginning
at the beginning, sry
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>>58965957
Don't you already have enough of your favela sluts?
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SLAVA JEWKRAÏNA!!!
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>>58970069

Yes I'm well aware of this, siding with Russia was a huge mistake on Ukraine's side...
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>>58969946
Nigger please. Compared to Ukrainian our economy prospers. Power has been restored long ago.

>>58970430
Siding with Russia is their destiny since we're basically the same people with common roots and history while Poland is a completely different Catholic culture.
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>>58969946
there wouldn't be a problem in the first place if amerijews didn't stick their dick in Ukraine
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>>58970624

Russia is a cancerous tumor that was severed off the back of glorious Kyiv when the mongol hordes attacked and became it's own living creature thinking itself to be separate from ukraine, Russians are just Ukrainians suffering from identity crisis
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>>58964537
Wow, you signed a contract to rip your own throat out, congrats.
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>>58971097
I see you definitely ate some Hohol alternative history. Or maybe just a diaspora who fled from his pseudo country.
Mongols sacked Kiev so hard by the way that it became irrelevant for the next 800 years.
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>>58970430
And I'm not saing that there wasn't any fault on "our" side, actually it's a well-established thesis in our classical historiography, see for example:
>the status of the peasants further deteriorated under the unchecked power of their lords, and in desperation peasants migrated east to join the Cossacks on the frontiers of the commonwealth. Besides the ensuing civil wars and invasions of mid-century, the products of the golden liberty were thus national weakness, irresolution, and poverty of spirit whose effects were made clear in the eighteenth century.
http://www.anselm.edu/Documents/NHIOP/Working%20Papers/MichalBobrzynski1.pdf

Unfortunately Ukrainians seem to be rather unable to formulate similar statements criticizing their own national traditions. Of course they are still a "nation in development" so it's understandable to some degree, but it's also a reason why we can't forge any new union - it would demand some kind of mutual effort on both sides, in this regard modern Belarusian nationalism seems to be more promising, but unfortunately there are maybe 5% of those "real" Belarusians in today's Belarus.
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>>58970624
Your roots may be common, but then your cultural/political institutions were shaped by the Mongols/Tatars, while some part of Ukrainian political culture was shaped by the Commonwealth (even though they don't want to admit this fact), one can find many examples: to some degree Ukrainian Cossaks tried to imitate our "noblemen's democracy" - even today Ukrainians use our individualistic way of adressing people ("pan"), instead of your collectivist "wy" (although not always); for several hundred years many "Ukrainian" cities were ruled according to western laws etc. etc.
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>>58971373
>it would demand some kind
I sould probably use "require" instead of "demand", so sry.
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>>58971334

Kyiv was a sprawling rich metropolis before Russia even had dirt roads or books to read and toilets to shit in
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>>58964537
Inshallah, we must expand the borders of the prophet's caliphate (pbuh)
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>>58964537
Congratulations youre about to experience socialist usury once again.

This is what you get for trusting jews
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>>58972475
>>58971097
You are an Ukrainian expat?
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>>58974080

The fuck is expat?
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>>58974959
It's not a common English word?
>An expatriate (often shortened to expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing, as an immigrant, in a country other than that of their citizenship. The word comes from the Latin terms ex ("out of") and patria ("country, fatherland").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate
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>>58964537
I don't care. It's not like the European Union's gonna get any whiter.

>Waiting on Brexit.
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>>58971097
It's funny because it's true. Moscow's claim to the legacy of Rus is very dubious.
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>>58964537

>ukraine

no such thing
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>>58976020
Nice one kielbasa breath.
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>>58975549

My attorney has advised I do not answer this question
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Enjoy the enrichment. You're gonna miss being poor.
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>>58964537
I love Ukraine I don't want to see it crash
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BREXIT
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>>58976020

Stay mad my little pollack
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>>58976365
>the massacre of Polish captives by the Cossaks
well, nothing surprising
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>>58976464

Yep, they sought out polish noble men and royalties to slaughter in this incident in particular
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>>58964537
Some of you helped us to remove the kikes from ukraine, youre OK
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>>58968589
I don't think that will happen. But I think that there are some grounds to resurrect the Intermarium. V4 will probably be on board, and so will Romania. Baltic states might be interested in this idea as well. But Ukraine... now that's going to be a problem. I have lot of sympathy for Ukrainians, but I have this growing feeling, that ultimately, Ukraine's fate will not be decided by Ukrainians. Russians has too much at stake here, and Americans won't resist the temptation of cutting some sort of a deal with them.
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>>58976226
hohol diaspora btfo

your country is fake
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>>58977005

Shouldn't you be at a Burnie Sanders rally telling black lives matter protesters how sorry you are for slavery?
Or being castrated by a feminazi?
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>>58976757
I guess they were quite butthurted after pic related.
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>>58968030
No you.
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>>58968589
>west ukraine + new right tilted Poland should unite
THIS
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>>58972102
Ukrainians is fckn tatars and cumans with a mixture of Polish and Russian blood. Russia has every right to be the successor of Kievan Rus . Ukraine is a fiction country made by Lenin. It should be divided between the legitimate owners of these lands : Russians and Poles.

When ukrainian get smarter , he becomes russian
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>>58977510
keep dreaming subhuman. Ukrainians are based
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>>58977643
fake quote
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>>58977510

> this is what ruskies actually believe

Hahah, Stay in fairlytale dream land faggot
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>>58977643
>puerto rico
>calling others subhuman
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>>58970069
>Ukrainian nationalism, historiography and literature are particularly anti-Polish
Because Polish nationalism historiography and literature are _actually_ anti-Ukrainian
BTW 99% of Ukrainians don't care about nationalism and even don't now about the massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia.
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>>58977510
>Ukrainians is fckn tatars and cumans

Regards,1/3 Mongol 1/3 Siberian 1/3 Slav "Russian"
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>>58977510
>Russia has every right to be the successor of Kievan Rus
Why?
Russia was moskvia up to 16 century, stupid bloodthirst mongol mongrel principality.
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>>58977510
Russians should really stop thinking about new territories and start to develop their own country.
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>>58977643
All of these are clearly fit ethnic " ukrainian " . I'm telling you it as a half russian half ukrainian. All my relatives from Ukraine and all the people I know there are not emotionally stable and wild Slavo- Turks . They are mentally retarded brother of Poles and Russians .
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>>58972475
oh god how absurd

Russia and Ukraine are the same nation stop trying to separate them.

Also Ukrainian isn't a real ethnicity it's either Cossack or Ruthenian. Ukraine literally means "borderland" comes from the same word as krai (as in Krasnodar Krai or the Serbian "krajina").

I wish the Russophiles would have won so we wouldn't have to deal with this shit.

btw I am Ukrainian - American (grandpa is from Galizien)
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>>58964537
Watch this guy's vid to see what Ukraine's future will look like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsQz9VOzT0&t=54m6s

This guy has such got tier videos, seriously he drops Titanic sized red pills.
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>>58977918
we do not need new territories . I'm just surprised ,how Pole can believe in " Ukrainians " if he knowing at least Polish history
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Another russian Ahmeds try take shit about Ukraine and out history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Z_-HGaKXE
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>>58978215
*our
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>>58977364

That's cause we got betrayed by the tatars, which was a fuckin stupid idea to trust them in the first place.

Undoubtedly Poland dominated ukraine for much of its recent history. This is because Ukrainians had to contend with Russians,poles, tatars and Turks simultaneously, anyone gets btfo when it's 4 on 1, no fucking shit

But this is why I don't get people criticizing ukraine for the bandera massacre or kmelnytsky uprising. Heaven forbid ukraine fights back against being enslaved and colonized and takes a stab back poland, I mean c'mon seriously?
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>>58978215
you correctly noted, Ukraine is out of history
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>>58977780
Many of the most prominent Polish historians, like Michał Bobrzyński aren't anti-Ukrainian, I gave an example here:
>>58971373
or here
>>58970069
writing about the Giedroyc Doctrine

And yes, en masse Ukrainian national culture is anti-Polish, much more than anti-Russian, see Mykhailo Hrushevsky or Taras Shevchenko, for example.
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>>58965369

Nice hidden rare senpai
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>>58978256
see: >>58978052
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>>58964537
We already got your first enrichment ready senpai.
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>>58978262
>Undoubtedly Poland dominated ukraine for much of its recent history.
Only if you accept a theory forced by Ukrainian ideologists that there were some Ukraine earlier than 1917.

>But this is why I don't get people criticizing ukraine for the bandera massacre or kmelnytsky uprising.
No one is criticizing Ukraine for the Khmelnytsky uprising, it was a legitimate civil war between two sides fighting to achieve their goals, it's only funny that they started uprising and ultimately joined Russia, it's like karma.

As for the Volynhan genocide, well, I'm not surpised that you don't undertand that wars are OK, but exterminating women and children is not OK - you are an Ukrainian, after all.
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>>58978920
>there were some Ukraine
there was
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>>58978430
let me redpill you how are doing in the Ukraine situation really is.
Supporters of Ukrainian nationalism in favor of Ukrainian independence from Russia and Poland, the majority of these nationalists actually Nazis.
Those Ukrainians that for Poland and against Russia is a lazy pieces of shit who blame Russia in all they troubles, and they think that if they "giving their own ass" to Poland then they immediately become a part EU, and EU will give them money simply for what they are for Europe. For example, half of the people participated in the protests on Maidan was sure that they joined the European Union in the coming year and their salaries would instant be just 3000 Euros instead of 3000 grivnes.
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>>58978262
>Heaven forbid ukraine fights back against being enslaved and colonized and takes a stab back poland
Actually what they did is they murdered defensless peasants and farmes that lived with them for years as neighbours.
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>>58978052
>>58978615

Like I stated before Russians grew out of kyiv

They are disenfranchised Ukrainians

However similar they may be they are not the same

A spade is not a shovel

Jumping back to the seventeenth century

Why would the polish treat the Ukrainians like shit, clearly they didn't treat them like their own people, not like poles. And they were not allied with or had anything to do with the Russian empire, they had to sign an agree ment with the Russians saying Cossacks (which were invented by Ukrainians) had to fight on their side, and later Ukrainians got ripped off by Russia.

Read a fucking book bruh
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>>58979226
Ukrainians as nationality appeared in the 20th century . Do you understand that?
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>>58979137

Haha, it's not like Poland didn't murder Ukrainians all the time for centuries

They were literally slaves to poles LITERALLY

Get fucking real
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>>58979083
Aнoн, я мoгy cвoбoднo пoльзoвaтьcя cpeдcтвaми мaccoвoй инфopмaции тaк нa pyccкoм кaк и нa yкpaинcкoм, тaк чтo извини, нo нe нaдo мнe пpocвeщaть, ни нacчёт coвpeмeннoй Poccии, ни Укpaины.
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>>58979384

Have you ever heard of something called the kyivn rus?

Or do they not teach history in mosscows schools anymore?
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>>58979465
нo ты пpoчитaл чтo я нaпиcaл? Tы жe пoнимaeшь, чтo этo вce yпиpaeтcя в "yкpaинcкий мeнтaлитeт" ? Oни хoтят нeчeгo нe дeлaть и пpи этoм пoлyчaть вce чтo хoтят. B этoм вecь yкpaинeц.
Tы пoйми мeня, я нe пpидepживaюcь пoзиции , чтo yкpaинa дoлжнa быть нa пoвoдкe y Poccии. Укpaинeц caм хoчeт быть нa пoвoдкe, пpocтo y зaпaдa. Bce их кpики пpo нeзaвиcимocть этo пpocтo лишь зaмacкиpoвaннoe жeлaниe cтaть чacтью Eвpo Coюзa и зaжить кaк нeмцы cpaзy жe. He o кaкoм caмo coзнaнии тaм peчи нe идeт вooбщe.
Я пишy тeбe этo вce бyдyчи нa пoлoвинy yкpaинцeм и я peгyляpнo oбщaюcь c poднeй oттyдa дaжe ceйчac.
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>>58979423
>LITERALLY
What are you talking about dumb fuck there was no slavery in Polish Crown, and ukrainian peasants were treated exactly like the polish ones. There wasn't even an ukraninan nationality back then, at least not like it is understood today.
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>>58979423
>Ukrainians
>real ethnicity
>muh kievan rus'
kek
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>>58979226
Ever heard of Novgorod the Great?
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>>58979722
here we go again.
Do u read some other versions of history? or only new ukrainian history 2015 year edition?
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>>58979226
>Why would the polish treat the Ukrainians like shit, clearly they didn't treat them like their own people, not like poles.
In the Pl-L Commonwealth neither Polish, nor Ruthenian peasants had many rights, but Ruthenian nobles had, generally, the same rights as Polish noblemen. As a typical person fed with nationalist Ukrainian propaganda you seem to think that modern nations existed before late 19th-early 20th century, but it's not true. Even in 19th century Britain many rich people didn't see anything wrong with 8-9 y.o. children working in coal mines.
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>>58980008
Russian history starts at 16 century, mate.
Ukrainian history starts at the hell knows where.
Ancestors of russans lived near moskovia.
Ancestors of kievan rus people lived near kiev.
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>>58979722
I think you are ukrainian. They constantly use this mantra , thinking that if Kiev in their territory , then it means they are heirs of Kievan Rus.
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>>58979722


see?>>58980329

>>58980346


just laugh loudly now
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>>58964537
My assessment of what you are is that you're a fucking retard.

It will happen slowly, it will happen in the shadows, subtly. Your media will start using words they didn't before, from angles of approach they didn't before. Your schools will start using books that teach history from a slightly ''different angle'' than bafore, the people who are uplifted by the establishment as ''popular, famous people!'' will start being different from the type of people you're used to.

And before you know it. 15% of your population will be made up by non-white foreigners, your schools will be teaching that whites are evil and responsible for everything bad in the world, and that we've inherited our forefathers sins and that we must pay for this by opening up our borders, your women will refuse to marry and have children, your churches will be fined for hate-speech if they claim homosexuality is wrong, and you will start seeing pride parades.

Oh wait, you've already had the first pride parade in the history of Ukraine earlier this year, approved personally by your ''revolutionary leader'' Petro Porosjkenko, the ukrainian ''patriot'' who ''didn't'' sell out his country.
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>>58979794
A извини, я eщё paз пpoчитaл мoй пpeдыдyщий oтвeт и oн фaктичecки мoг кaзaтьcя cлишкoм "нeвeжливым", я тoлькo хoтeл cкaзaть, чтo мы тoжe пyтeшecтвyeм пo Укpaинe, и нeкoтopыe дaжe пoceщaют Poccию, тaк чтo для нac этo нe кaкaя тo чёpнaя дыpa, кaк для aмepикaнцeв, нaпpимep, Извини oшибки, нo y мeня нeт pyccкoй клaвиaтypы.
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>>58980559
>Your media will start using words they didn't before, from angles of approach they didn't before. Your schools will start using books that teach history from a slightly ''different angle'' than bafore, the people who are uplifted by the establishment as ''popular, famous people!'' will start being different from the type of people you're used to.

they have it already, but they believe that it is the voice of freedom , not Russian propaganda
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>>58980610
Heт пpoблeм. Я тoлькo нaдeюcь, чтo ты пoнял, чтo имeннo я имeл ввидy.
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>>58980717
voice of freedom and not Russian propaganda*
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>>58980759
You are that anti-EU/NATO Swede? If yes, then what do you think about this organization? Are they relevant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45LXttugBE
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>>58964537
We send you sandniggers.
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>>58980991
Very good organization. But for some reason they went full retard and supported the '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''revolution'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' in Ukraine (because they thought it was a nationalist revolution, like I guess most people did at the time). I think now they've distanced themselves from that though, so it's fine.

Good organization.
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>>58964537
Great,another third world country to the collection.
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>>58981142
I found this video accidentally and I was pleasantly surprised that some Swedes protest against this Jewish mass murderer - a very nice initiative, especially since some judge from Uppsala refused to extradite him to Poland.
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>>58964537

Prepare for enrichment Ukraine. Your grand children will look around at the black and brown faces and wonder why you didn't just stay out, and stay friends with Russia
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>>58964537
Leave your national sovereignty behind, and please send us Ukranian qts
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>>58964537

Why your country wants to join the EU is just beyond insanity. You guys are going to get fucked in the ass mega hard by the Jewish Elite and Merkel. Just saying.... Holodomor round 2?
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>>58965773
Was that the one where hohol betrayed everyone and became bitch of Polska and then got slaughtered by hohol bitches of Russia?
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>>58981450
>Volynhan genocide
We've got alot of that in Sweden. You know about the Aschberg family? A jewish family which turned stolen silver and gold from baltics into pure gold and silver, and sold it to the soviets. After the collapse, they fled to Sweden and became a prominent family in Sweden. Today, the patriarch of the family, Robert Aschberg, is part of the swedish establishment and is host to many TV-shows. His most recently famous one ''Trolljägarna'', which looks up people who wrote '''''''''''''''racist'''''''''''' comments online, goes to their home and ''confronts'' them, on NATIONAL TELEVISION. Literally thought-police.

We've got tons of those fucking jews in this country.

In the year shift from 2014 to 2015. An inquiry was made to SÄPO (Swedish secret police) to release secret documents which had the real identity of Gestapo, KGB and other jews who fled to Sweden after the collapse and who holds prominent positions in Swedish society today, and whom also had these jobs while they were KGB and Gestapo agents. The decision? The public will not be allowed to know the information in them (Sweden Democrats only party that voted in favour of letting the public access the information), AND the information was destroyed permanently.
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>>58964537
Ukraine will officially become bankrupt state in a week.
Of course EU will gladly accept second Greece.
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I have no idea why I greentexted ''Volynhan genocide'', but ok.
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>>58981450
There's tons of these people in Sweden. And swedish police is absolutely clueless, they LITERALLY went out recently and said they don't have time to respond to emergency calls because they're too busy implementing the governments new policies of checking ID's on immigrants arriving from Denmark.

You can just come here, it's open season on these mass murdering jew cunts asses. Just go to their home and fuck them up, there's literally NOTHING stopping you.

Come here, kill them in the night, take Finlandsfärjan to Finland, then on land get back to Poland. Easy peasy.
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>>58965773
>remove hohols

always smiling when watch this vid
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>>58980991
Nice, I heard about this protest but I didn't know it was swedish nationalists who did it. Based nords bringing heat to the kikes once again.
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>>58964537
xoxol NO.
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>>58977918
>my mfw Russians today act just like the Mongols did
>my mfw they go on doing mindless land grabbing leaving nothing but shit in their path

Thanks Soviet Union
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We don't need a water
Let the mf**s burn...
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Ukraine is fake, their entire claim of being the real 'Rus' comes from 'Kievan' being in 'Kievan Rus', and Kiev being the capital, when it was only a mudshit settlement before it was captured by the Rus, and made capital which used to be Novgorod. They're confused Russian/Poles and Mix. Same as Belarussians.
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>>58981833
That Stefan Michnik wasn't involved in the Volynhan genocide, he was a Stalinist judge during post-war era - many of those nice Jewish communists fled to other countries after the dead of Stalin;
this one to the UK:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Woli%C5%84ska-Brus
this one to Israel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Morel
this one lives in Sweden:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Michnik
but there were many more

>Robert Aschberg
Yes, I saw some news about him, as for the rest of your post (that part about public information) it's quite surprising because I saw some articles about your laws related to those issues (when and how one can demand information from the state) and at least in this regard it looked quite transparent.
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>>58982596
and lot of them is fckn turkroaches
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>>58982060
It's especially nice considering the situation in their country, I mean - some of them are students etc., yet they weren't afraid.
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>>58982655
>and at least in this regard it looked quite transparent.
Lel, that's just propaganda. It's not transparent at all, the public knows nothing, and that's of course not even thinking about the fact that most whites are by default brainwashed beyond hope and reason.
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>>58982738
Of course, considering the past owners of southern ukraine and crimea, before Russia conquered it.
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>>58982655
Look what I just found, quickly doing a google on Stefans name:

http://www.dn.se/arkiv/nyheter/jag-trodde-att-jag-tjanade-mitt-land-69arige-stefan-michnik

DN (Dagens Nyheter), is a swedish ''news website'' with close ties to the U.S. The Editor-in-Chief is a JEW called Peter Wolodarski, pic related. The interviews title is: ''I thought I was serving my country'', oh sure you did Stefan, sure you did.

The entire interview is basically ''he dindu nuffin'', ''he persecuted cuz he jew!''
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>>58982738
the fuck is wrong with his ears?
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>>58982903
yes.
and most stupid thing is that many Ukrainians consider Turkish attributes such as the stupid hair, moustache, and curved swords - is their culture. So I try to prove in this thread that Ukrainians don't exist. There are a mixture of turkroaches, russians and poles, and other part of "ukrainians" is just russians, poles and belarusians.
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>>58981321
Next it'll be Syria, the Jewel of the European Union.
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>>58978177
I didn't take any side, I only refered to your proposition about dividing Ukraine - let's say there is some big happening and we take the west and then what? Considering their traditions, then we have millions of potential terrorists in our country, our HIV prevalence/murder rate becomes several times higher etc. No, thanks.
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>>58980329

You are aware that this verision of history is only teached in Ukraine... you are aware that every University from NY to Tokyo laughs at your thesis?
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>>58964537
You are more than welcome!
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>>58982655
>>58983186
OH MY FUCKING GOD
>När de var som flest, år 1954, tjänstgjorde 200 000 polacker i statens säkerhetsapparat och ytterligare 125 000 var frivilliga reservpoliser. 29 procent av landets ledarskap efter kriget betecknades av säkerhetspolisen som judiskt. Det hävdar sociologen i Lund Jaff Schatz i sin bok "Generationen" som är grundad på intervjuer med tidigare polska kommunister bosatta i Sverige.

>- Det var en mycket känslig situation för toppledarskiktet, säger Schatz. Det fanns en fruktan att en så stor andel judar skulle stärka bilden av att kommunismen dominerades av judar.

>En statsstödd våg av antisemitism där myndigheterna lastade judarna och judiska kommunister för landets olyckor nådde sin höjdpunkt i slutet av 1960-talet.

>- Tidningarna var fyllda med lögner om sionistiska sammansvärjningar. Det var fruktansvärt, det var värre i Polen då än under kriget när vi svalt. Under kriget trodde vi att vi var på den rätta sidan även om vi var utan mat, minns Stefan Michnik.

TRANSLATION:

>''The newspapers were filled with lies about zionist congregations. It was terrible. It was worse than during the war in Poland when we starved. During the war we thought we were on the right side, even if we were without food''

This DISGUSTING FUCKING KIKE is calling post-war Poland ''more terrible than the war'' because of ''jewish conspiracy theories'' in the media, and that ''those lies leaped the risk of perpetuating a jewish world conspiracy and jews dominating communism.''

He also says that about 30% of the countrys leadership was jewish at that point, and they level no criticism at that.

Wow. Wow.

FUCK these people. Oh my GOD. FUCK THEM, FUCK THE JEWS
FUCKIGN DISGUSTING PIGS
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>>58983216
his ears had heard Ukrainian TV
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>>58964537
Soon you are going to be enriched and your women are going to be blacked by the immigrants
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>>58983332
the same story from our side. Crimea was annexed because it is more russian and it is a strategically important military point.
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>>58983186
>http://www.dn.se/arkiv/nyheter/jag-trodde-att-jag-tjanade-mitt-land-69arige-stefan-michnik
Thanks, I'm google-translating it right now.

>>58982857
>>58983186
BTW, if someone learns Swedish, is he also able to read Norwegian/Danish?
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>>58983360
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>>58983664
>BTW, if someone learns Swedish, is he also able to read Norwegian/Danish?
You will be able to read and understand norwegian best, danish second best.
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>>58983360
Wut? Did not understand a shit tвн.
Probably I need to know the context))))))
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>>58982311
>mfw you say "my my face when"
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>>58983973
I'm too angry to write longer posts coherently

TLDR: DN conducted an interview with Peter Michnik. (DN is a classic jewish propaganda newspaper, pic related is the Editor-In-Chief), that conducted an interview with Peter Michnik where the entire interview is basically:

>He dindu nuffin!
>He a good boy!
>''I thought I was serving my country''
>''Jews controlling communism? h-haha! n-no! jews m-made up 30% of polish leadership b-but they didn't c-control communism i s-swear!''
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>>58969350
They'll pay their debt right after we pay back China lel
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>>58983973
>>58984070
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>>58983360
>He also says that about 30% of the countrys leadership was jewish at that point
The number was even higher in so-called "Stalinist terror aparatus", its chief was Jakub Berman, his "assistants" were Jewish, etc, etc. But it was not only in post-war Poland, for example during ww2 there were many happenings like:
>The Koniuchy (Kaniūkai) massacre was a massacre of civilians carried out by a Soviet partisan unit along with a contingent of Jewish partisans under their command during the Second World War in the Polish village of Koniuchy (now Kaniūkai, Lithuania) on January 29, 1944.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koniuchy_massacre

Interesting fact - according to many sources, Yitzhak Arad (the director of Yad Vashem from 1972 to 1993) participated in this massacre.

The only positive fact now is that the Jews won't succeed playing that "eternal victim" card in Poland, especially since many new books about those happenings are published each year.
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>>58983911
Thanks
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>>58984048
>mfw when that was the joke
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Alright let me lay it down for all you fucking morons

Ukraine is one of the ONLY true European nations
http://hubpages.com/travel/Cucuteni
^ get fucked bitches and cry about it
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Ukrainians have always been free.

Even under polish, Russian and Mongol occupation there were always free men living in camps in the woods , they would raid their occupiers frequently.

And they think ukraine was "conquered" HA! Maybe the land and serfs but never the true ukrainan people. They always did as they pleased.

We are sarmats, an ancient people who settled the lands long ago, proto- slavs, we breast feed and mothered Slavic culture into existence. The Romans revered us as great gold Smith's and warriors.

History, science will show We domesticated hourses. We were of the first to ride chariots.

Why are white people called Caucasians? Because they come from caucus tribes that settled in ukraine first.

Almost any European culture was at one point a tribe that came from the caucus and settled in ukraine.

Every european is just a pseudo Ukrainian, everyone ignores this fact.

Hitler fetishized aryans, who themselves where irainian/caucus tribes been at one point dweled and feed themselves in ukraine

Your "white-ness" is measured on how close you are to Ukrainians in descendance.
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>>58984070
>>58984101
But what did this guy do?
>>58984168
In USSR jews were the total majority in the beginning in the apparatus. Then their number decreased drastically, but still their numbers in power is fucking astonishing for less then 1% of population.
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>>58984775
>we
>we
>we
))))
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>>58983186
Pic related is the chief of propaganda in the government of communist dictator Jaruzelski, Jerzy Urban/Urbach, now he owns a semi-pornographic newspaper "Nie".
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>>58984881
Literally evil. Demonspawn.
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>>58984796
There was one American study written by a historian who did his math and he concluded that the Jews were the last persecuted nationality in the USSR (if you were Jewish you had the best chance to survive, if you were white-Russian or a pop, well, statistically speaking you were fucked) unfortunately my book cathalog is very chaotic so I won't find it right now.
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>>58985228
Lel it is easy to belive.
Though I doubt some churkas from churkastans had lower chances to survive.
They just had no power.
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>>58984866
It must be some pasta, I refuse to believe that he is serious.
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The EU lost it's purpose as a economic union when it mass accepted eastern euro shitholes just so russia didn't influence them again, and then it became a joke with Bulgaria and Romania joining, and it stopped being funny when they let Croatia which is just private property of a handful of people in power, and now they want to put Bosnia, Serbia and Macedonia in too and these could be barely considered countries, at least by European standards
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>>58985425

See

>>58984718

Read it and weep
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>>58985781
>The EU lost it's purpose as a economic union when it mass accepted eastern euro shitholes
Well, it's over 100 million new consuments.
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>>58985425
Yea, probably some fantasy.
Did not read it till the end at 1st after saw "we" two times.
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>>58985781
This.We even forged the requirements to join the EU and it was fairly visible but they accepted us anyway.
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>>58985894
Yeah, a 100 million "consuments" who can't afford cigarettes let alone normal produce made by west euro countries.
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>>58985868
Yes, yes, "Tripolie", they had some ancient civilization more powerful than Ancient Egypt, but all their buildings were made of wood so we can't see their pyramids etc. I know this narration wery well.
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>>58983362
Rofl ... i lost

I keep on seeing references to thats its terrible ... care to elaborate Russiabro?
It can't be thaaat bad, can it?
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>>58985984
We had a free invitation from France sometime during the 70's, probably as ploy to move further away from USSR and eventually join NATO or something, tho back then we were at least somewhere there when it comes standard and economy.
Even I as a citizen of this country think joining EU would be a mistake at this point since our economic levels are too far away, but Shengen would be nice
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>>58984775
*smacks lips*
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>>58979423
The Polish peasants in Red Ruthenia and Volhynia were as much serfs and unfree as their Ukrainian neighbours up to the mid 19th century, so don't give me that shit.
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>>58986048
I don't know how it works in Bosnia but every year Poland itself buys from Germany products worth tens of billions Euro, now multiply it by all countries and by all years.
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>>58986381
well I watched the program about what Jesus was Ukrainian. That the Ukrainians are the most ancient nation in the world and that they built the pyramids. Good stories.
But it's their documentary. In the news they tells the same level stories.
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>>58986677
We need more of these

HALT BITTE
*chugs Stiegl*
SO YOU ARE ZAYING
*crashes F1 car*
YOU ARE ZAYING ZAT
*chain smokes*
EIN MOMENT
*gets shot by Serb*
WHAT YOU ARE ZAYING IS ZAT
*claims to be a victim of the Nazis*
ZAT WE WERE
*refuses to return art to elderly Jewish lady*
KAISERS UND SCHEISSEEEEE JAAAAAAAAAA
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>>58986773
what if the communists brought down the Soviet Union only in order to create a new in Europe?
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>>58986381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wejZOqPIeRA
Hercules, ancient Greek Gods, Genghis Khan and more all were Ukrainians.
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>>58986816
Have you seen ancient aliens?
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>>58987136
And Buddha, don't forget about him:
>Everything we know about the provenance of The Awakened One is wrong — at least according to deputy principal of Ukraine University, Dr. Valery Bebik, who stated in an article in the Voice of Ukraine newspaper:

>Everything is clear from the ethnic point of view. Buddha was a Scythian Arian, a member of the Budin tribe. The descendants of the tribe still live in the Sumsky and the Chernigov region of Ukraine, as well as on the neighboring lands of Belarus and Russia.

>Also Ukrainian, according Dr. Bebik: the ancient Egyptians, and Jesus Christ — who likely “lived 3,000 years before his canonical birth.”
http://www.lionsroar.com/was-the-buddha-ukrainian/
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>>58987136
Freud too!?
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>>58987291
well it says here >>58987136
that the Ukrainian language comes from Venus. It is included in Ukrainian shcool books.
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>>58987524
>>58987376
They dont have their own history so they create it as fast as they can. And with as much pathos as they can so that people want to believe they are an ancient most relevant civilization of fucking Gods.
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>>58987567
>>58987376
>>58987136
Ukraine confirmed for true master race
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>>58964537
>brotherhood
It's a sisterhood shitlord.
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>>58987036
It was a theory of one Russian dissident - the one who was accused by the British police of some crime related to CP.
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>>58987806
>>58987036
Oh, I found - I meant this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41Tdl5mvdg
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>>58987376
>Jesus Christ — who likely “lived 3,000 years before his canonical birth

Holy fuck so this Bebik guy's like the opposite of Anatoly Fomenko then?
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>>58964537

Nope.
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>>58987806
so...is Poland grabbed again?
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>>58987931
Kek, you know about Fomienko? How is this possible?
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Here comes your refugees, Ukraine.

Time to get enriched.
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>>58964537
You wish hohol, nobody here wants another leech, we're full. Keep sucking money from Russia instead, nobody cares about you parassites in the EU.
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>>58987895
in fact, internal policy of the European Union looks like very similar to the USSR.
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Is this a bait to localize the 14/88 true blooded ukranian americans on this board. Cause nobody is delusional enough in europe, to believe, that ukrain will ever become eu-member. Even if you would meat the requirements, which you do not, we germans and the french will cockblock you by strategic interest.
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>>58987895
>dat accent
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>>58984822
I cant wait till he throws your brothers out of my country.
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>>58988279
He gives some arguments, but I don't know a lot about him, except for one book about western non-violence movement he wrote - "The Pacifists vs. Peace", which is quite interesting.
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>>58988052
Why would any of them go to Ukraine?
Ukraine will stay as it is, in fact Ukrainians will flee to Germany.
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>>58971097
Well according to Ukraine's history some ancient Ukrainian tribes and shit were the European ancestors too. Literally North Korea tier education, worse than the US or Japanese onin terms of denial.

But the again, everything that begins with
>according to Ukrainian/Kiev
>Ukraine/Kiev claims
>the Ukrainian press reports
shouldn't be taken seriously as proven in the past. You are an imaginary country.
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>>58988738
Well, the EU want's to create some kind of compulsory system of dystrybution of immigrants, so let's say 2 million Africans come to Europe and then they are resettled to all countries according to their population, area and GDP. Ukraine's population and area are rather big so in this system they would be strongly enriched.
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>>58989314
>want's
wants
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>>58984775
WE WUZ SLAVS
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>>58964537
Rest in peace Ukraine. If you and the other former Soviet states banded together with Russia, you would be able to resist degeneracy. Divided you shall fall.
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>>58989314
>area are rather big
The largest in EU tвн.
And Africans will not go to Ukraine, because, you know, they will have the same quality of life in Ukraine.
Why would they stay in Ukraine?
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>>58964537
welcome, here's your complimentary 12.000 muslims.
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>>58989533
>Why would they stay in Ukraine?
Of course we are talking only theoretically, but as far as I know according to that plan all resettled immigrants would receive some benefits, but only if they stay in their country of destination. Of course in reality it can't work, but the EU officials are totally delusional, just like those Soviet officials that wanted to grow corn in Syberia, all that guy from Proletkult - Bogdanov, who wanted to unify humanity through some kind of blood transfusions or smth. like that. Socialism never changes.
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>>58976365
just another proof that ukrainians have barbarism in their very blood, they are also incredibly dumb and unable of reason thus killing innocent civilians is literally their biggest national success, one they still celebrate since they have no other achievements (they especially enjoyed torturing and killing children)

hohols and their descendants will always be nothing more than human waste, we know it, they know it and everyone else knows it, that's why they run to Poland so willingly and want to become Polish so much as to get rid of the innate filth they are born with

they are such a vile nation of pigs living in their own filth that not even Russia wants anything to so with them
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>>58989616
12 isn't that many
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>>58990160
As for now we have about 8000/almost 40M so it's all a matter of perspective. Ukraine has probably more of them but not that much more and they have bigger population too.
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>>58989999
>>58988666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySJ1Z5o8y5w

RUN POLAND. RUN
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>>58965957
> implying brazilian monkeys would ever import women instead of raping local favela whores

hue
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Oh please, Ukraine will never join EU. Last thing EU needs is another Greece.
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>>58990461
кэк, cлишкoм пoзднo, тeпepь мы вce бyдeм oбoгaщeны...
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It was ukraine.
Now it's mykraine.
-Putin
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>>58990009
and today these savages slaughter their own kind in the East of Ukraine.
my grandfather always said that the hohol is worse than a Nazi, because in addition his a traitor.
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>>58984775
>WE WUZ SARMATS

you guys are taught some #BLM tier bullshit in schools
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>>58990520
There was one big Jewish gang "exporting" young Jewish girls from partitioned Poland to Brazilian/Argentinian brothels so even today "polaca" means prostitute, at least as far as I know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwi_Migdal
>Zwi Migdal (Yiddish: צבי מגדל, IPA: [ˈtsvJ mJɡˈdal]) was an organized crime group involved in the trafficking of Jewish women from the shtetls of Eastern Europe for sexual slavery and forced prostitution. Mainly based in Argentina, the group operated from the 1860s to 1939.

>Originally called the Varsovia (Warsaw) Jewish Mutual Aid Society, the organization changed its name to Zwi Migdal in 1927, after the Polish envoy in Argentina filed an official complaint to the Argentine authorities, regarding the use of "Warsaw" in the name. The association's name was chosen to honor Luis Zvi Migdal, one of its founders.

>The Zwi Migdal organization operated from the 1860s to 1939. After the First World War, it had four hundred members in Argentina. Its annual turnover was fifty million dollars at the turn of the century.[citation needed]Its center was Buenos Aires, with branch offices in Brazil (Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo and Santos), United States (New York), Poland (Warsaw), South Africa, India and China[3]

>The Zwi Migdal Organization reached its peak in the 1920s: 430 rufian, or pimps, controlled 2,000 brothels with 30,000 women in Argentina alone.[citation needed] The organization's success stemmed from the fact that its members were bound by rules that were "based on order, discipline, and honesty." The network was well-organized and members cooperated closely to protect their interests.
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>>58984775
What a bullshit man, get a life and pay your debts.
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>>58967991
That's russian.
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>>58990698
Кoтoёб cyтeнёp, этo ты?))))
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Russian flag is much better desu, Ukranian colours a tad gay
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Я BИДEЛ CHЫ MИЛOPД, MOЙ ГEHEPAЛ, BЫ OПЯTЬ OБOCPAЛИCЬ!
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>>58992073
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLLPnnroeaU
Stupin thread.
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>>58977510
Let's not forget that Moldova needs the Ismail Oblast back.
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>>58967991
Cyka blyat
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>>58964537
The lack of Holodomor in this thread is surprising.
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>>58991417
>Кoтoёб cyтeнёp
Ч-чтo?
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>>58994761
Знaчит нe ты, бpaтaн.
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>>58994880
Hy a ктo этo?
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>>58994970
B /rus/ тpeдaх в /int/ cидит пoляк чacтo. Кoтoв пocтит.
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>>58995103
Aгa, я дyмaл чтo этo кaкoй-тo нoвый мeм вpoдe Alberto Barbossa.
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>>58995372
Toп кeк. Этo yжe cлишкoм для мeмa.
Хopoшo pyccкий знaeшь, вpoдe бы.
t. кoтoёб-cyтeнёp
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Ukrainians are literally niggers of Europe.

Pay debts to Russia.
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>>58995594
He тaк yж хopoшo, к coжaлeнию, нo я пpoживaл кaкoe-тo вpeмя в Poccии, тaк чтo oбщaюcь бeз пpeпятcтвий. Bceгo дoбpoгo!
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>>58996238
Удaчи, бpaтaн.
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>>58964537
Looks like Europe will be getting a bigger cuckshed. Congrats.
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>>58995820
Mein negger
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