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who are you going to vote tomorrow /pol/?
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>>58799562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxDmP9fqdw
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>>58799562
The best girl
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>>58799824
That Madoka has a pretty unique symbol. What is that, nihilist party? Cult of Chaos party?
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Sadly you can't vote them in Catalonia.
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P O D E M O S

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>>58799562
Ciudadanos
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>>58799562
PP

>>58800276
Id vote for them but they just don't have a chance.
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>>58800309
> Supporting degeneracy
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>>58800276
> Spain's left of centre party is literally called Partio Libtardo
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Your people clearly are not universally invested in improving their quality of life so one might as well invest in the pizza pasta party...
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>>58800007
Podemos, aka "We can".
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VOTE FOR THE END OF SOCIALISM!
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>>58800570
Why? Why do you support communism, degeneracy, depravation and Venezuelation?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_yrT70BVw
Podemos is the second
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>>58799562
Ciudadanos
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>>58799562
I was going to vote for Podemos but then this hyperfeminist bitch of theirs came up and I was like "yeah, no". I just wanted to watch the world burn, but I guess it'll burn without my voting anyway.

This country's misery won't end with a party like the ones we can vote.
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Falange

:^)
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>>58799562
Considering how half of you are unemployed, I'm predicting a blowout victory for the socialists.

Enjoy years of poverty.
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>>58800989
/thread
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>>58800498
What?
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>>58801074
It's Australian jargon
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which is the free market party? and which parties are likely to win/what are their ideology, I know podemos is commie but what else is there?
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>>58799562
Who the fuck cares? Spain is a shit
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>>58801195
this
>>58800276

Has 0 change, and even if everybody vote them they will not win cause they were unable to enter in most regions.
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I'm voting for Aljubarrota t.b.h.
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>>58801265
but is our shit
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>>58799562

Ciudadanos.

Or PODEMOS irnos al carajo.
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>>58801074
Libtard is short for liberal retard.
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>>58799562
That movie was garbage.
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>>58801377
moor shit?
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>>58799824
>Mami
>PP
Worst party can't be best girl
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>>58799562
>who are you going to vote tomorrow /pol/?
doesn't matter, there aren't any nationalist parties in Spain. all your parties are pro-EU cûcks who will do nothing about the massmigration of non-whites into Spain, and the spanish birthrates of 1.3/woman.
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>>58800941
>tfw no primo de rivera husbando

why even live
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my recommendation is voting for the party that stands for catalonian independence, not because i support catalonian independence, but becuse it's the party that will cause the biggest headache for the most anti-whites if they get the more votes.
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We're 4 years late in Spain.
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>>58800989
Socialists wont win, the pseudo-commies Syriza style will do, which is even worse
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Podemos.

>lets fuck the system a bit.
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Pacma
If I have to waste my vote, better on something (good?) that I know they will never win
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I will vote Podemos. bye bye white race
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>>58802196
>spanish
>white

kek
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>>58802196
>bye bye white race
said the inner-city sheltered faggot as a nationalist caved his skull in
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>>58802383
sharia will rule Spain in 10 years inshallah, Al.andalus will return, each day there are more muslims here, just wait and see, for we too are also going to wait and see
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If Spain goes completely to shit will I be able to find a loyal qt catholic waifu to bear a litter of my potatonigger offspring?
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>>58802982
There arent any catholic girl left in the whole country. Women from conservative families tend to be the biggest sluts
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>>58799562
Do carlists still have a party?
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>>58802017
>Pacma
>Trabajamos por la defensa de los animales, el medio ambiente y la justicia social .
Time to kill self, anon
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>>58801502
>moor shit
You are talking about your country or my country m8?
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Is there any nationalist party?or only pro euro faggots?
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>>58803253
That's disappointing
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>>58803832 They exist, but are very minority.
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>>58803313
Surprisingly yes.
http://partidocarlista.com/
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I'm seriously thinking about not voting this time.
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>>58799824
So Partido Popular?
Dont do it anon. Go falange
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>>58799562

I'm not going to vote lol
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Are they right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxDmP9fqdw
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>>58801409
are you seriously this retarded

"liberal" means a completely different thing in spanish, liberal as in economic freedom, so it is a right-wing party, not a leftist one
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>>58805853
Yeah I know, it means the same thing in Australia. I was just explaining the joke mate, there is no reason to be upset.
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>>58800276
high five

I'm neither going to vote as there's no party at my comunity :/
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>>58801571
Lolwhat
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Libertarianism is not leftist nor right wing, it's a whole diferent level from totalitarianism levels (socialdemocracy included).

PD: Espabilaréis cuando vuestros padres descubran que no tienen pensiones en los últimos años de vida
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>>58800276
YAAAAAASSSSSSSS

Vote C's tho, for real.
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>>58806102
This.

Socialdemocracy is a Ponzi scheme
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>>58801265
then don't come here for vacations you little bitch
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Who gives a shit, any party we vote for changes nothing thanks to the jews of the bank of Spain not distributing the money correctly throughout the country.
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What's goin on spain is the following:
>European monetary policies to manipulate finance market
>Cheap credit made with magic for private banks
>Easy bussiness for private banks
>So easy they relax and make a lot of fucking bad deals
>Loans not payed
>No more loans
>All parts of the economy who were hyped due to more people taking credits deflates and dissapears
>Nobody undestands this yet
>Let's print more money
>will happen again

while in local gov at spain:

>crisis starts
>moderate-left party (PSOE) burns superavit while denying the problem
>estate debt reaches 100% PIB in few years
>future citiciens fucked up
>light conservative party last 4 years stopped the state from growing, paralyzing the debt tendency, still it's not getting fixed

>two new political partys selling hardcore wishfull thinking (both more estatists)
>spaniard revolution
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Which party will give Spaniards jobs?
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>>58806574
>>two new political partys selling hardcore wishfull thinking (both more estatists)

Isn't C's classical liberal though?
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>>58799824
WHO HOMU HERE
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If you aren't voting PP, you're a fucking shit. Literally begging for stagnation.
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>>58806752
No, it's socialdemocrat like the rest of them, it's even more centralist, that means more power to less hands, that's more statism, that's steping ahead of totalitarism

I'm exaggerating a bit with that, but the point is real, their motto is to make the estate more efficient so the government can interfere more with our lives.

Their plans are not trully liberal, they're just as any other socialdemocrat, regulates market with force to set up their delusions abot how human relations should be, freezing prosperity and rich creation, killing freedom.

Their party is the more toxic in the sense that will make the estate live for more years as they're not going to do as derp as the rest kek
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>>58799562
>The most qt pie 3.14 diamond in PP is literally a jew

WHY FUCKING LIVE
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>>58807212
>Artur Mas's wife is also a jew

WHY DIDNT YOU LISTEN?
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That's it, Fuck everything

I'm voting for Podemon, Spain is fucked, C+s, our only hope (from the ones with chances for winning) are confirmed goys:
http://www.eldiario.es/politica/Albert-Rivera-facilitar-Rajoy-abstencion_0_464053867.html
(For non-spaniards, they will not vote against PP/PSOE)

Crashing this country with no survivors, we deserve no better
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>>58807038
if you're forced to choose between that or going full yolo allahu akbar, then stagnating becomes reasonable

that's what democracy makes to society
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>>58807039
lets get out of this shithole
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>>58807038
The fact that you live in a corrupt shithole doesn't mean countries with a choice should
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>>58799562
I wanted to vote for EB but they are not in my province.

I will take a leap of faith and vote for Cs, hopping that they play the election results cleverly and don't just give it to PP for free.

Also kindly reminder that the only reason to vote Podemos is because you want to accelerate the fall so that an actual decent party arises from the country's ashes.
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>>58807906
>and don't just give it to PP for free.
What are you a retard? Cs is PP2.0.
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>>58807906
>and don't just give it to PP for free.
It's over m8, Rivera exposed himself

http://www.eldiario.es/politica/Albert-Rivera-facilitar-Rajoy-abstencion_0_464053867.html
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>>58807981
I like that they would fuck lazy state workers and bring real equality but fuck PP seriously
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>>58799562
Third Republic when?
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>>58808120
The problem mate is they would do not such thing. They will be subservient to PP because "muh National interest". You may as well be honest with yourself and you political views and vote PP.
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>>58807468
>I was going to vote for Cs but now Podemos is our only choice :^)
>eldiario.es
Nice try Pablo
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>>58808155
Tomorrow, seriously. But I hate that flag
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>Spain will never elect a falangist party
JUST
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In other news: Spain has elections.

>American
>doesn't care about Spanish politics
>foreign Spaniard fuck
>cares tremendously about American politics
Feels gooood.
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>>58808323
How can you hate this beauty?
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>>58808323
The Republican Flag? I think it is much better than the Rojigualda.
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>>58807981
>every party that does not give free money and wants to enforce socialist policies is PP
Nice meme. Precisely the problems with Cs is that they are not right wing enough. It's fucking sad when a 100% socialdemocrat party is the only half-decent one (from the majority parties), yet it's the one being attacked the most for being "too right wing". Our country is fucked.
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>>58808436
Youll care when we crash europe with no survivors. Greece almost did, now is our chance
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>>58808304
>not crashing this country with no survivors
This country is so fucked I'm now just voting for whoever brings the most lulz
I'd honestly vote ERC, but Podemos will make more noise

need more sauce? it's all over the news
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/politica/elecciones-generales-20d-primera-plana-ciudadanos-rivera-contra-podemos-centralidad-pactos-4761785
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>>58808323
Do the colors of freedom trigger you?
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>>58805170
yes, they are
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>>58808608
>>58808635
>BANEmind
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>>58807468
>that filename
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>>58808791

>Freedom

>Believing any form of government is freedom

That's why spanish republicunts are so utterly dumb. Franco's regime was shit and authoritarian, but before that the republic was a shitfest as corrupt as the one we have now.
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>>58808635
These are the facts:
>Cs will vote NO against Podemos
>Cs will not vote either in favour or against PP/PSOE, something they have maintained since the fucking beginning and hasn't changed, and will not pact

And then you put an article from eldiario saying that Cs supports Rajoy, which is false. What the fuck do you want them to do? If they make a pact like in Andalucia they get criticized for trying to do something, if they decide to abstain and not pact with anyone then they are "in favour of PP". Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

And in any case, PP can't do shit with all the votes that will go to PSOE/Podemos who will vote NO.
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Is it true Galicians don't post on /pol/ because they would be visually represented by the Spanish flag?
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>>58799562

Please redpill on Podemos

Is it like Syriza ?
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Espanols!
I'm travelling to Asturias and Galicia this summer to do the northern route of Camino de Santiago
how bad are the "refugee" niggers there?????
ill be with my wife sleeping outside and your country is sadly /nogunz/
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>>58809172
>we are not responsible of 4 more years of PP because we did nothing to stop them :^)
Ignoring the problems while claiming to be the solution is pretty contradictory t᠎bh f᠎am
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>>58809263
I'm Galician and I post in /pol/, i think it would be worse for the Vasconians
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>>58809325
Yes, Syriza with some extra Venezuela chavism
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>>58809398
Niggers are not bad. be careful with moors and pay lot of attention to gypsies.
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>>58809325

Exactly like that.

It's an experiment funded by the government and manufactured in universities, specifically Complutense of Madrid.

It is the state's attempt at creating a "third party" where people fed up with the existing two could go.

Take for granted what I say is the truth.
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>>58809618
damn there are moors and gypsies there?
i'd be travelling almost exclusively along the northern coastline of your country.
that's pretty sad desu you shouldve kept them out
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>>58809263

Galicians are the Australians of Spain.

Expert shitposters both online and irl
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>>58809398
Galicia is fuckin paradise, not a single sandnigger here.
In main cities we have a few blacks selling wristbands, cds and fake sunglasses, on the street, but they are not a problem.
Be careful with gypsies though.

Enjoy your trip, Galicia is gorgeous on summer, and if you can, go to the north coast, those cliffs are breathtaking, also people is really friendly, and food is godtier.
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>>58808791
The colours dont fit. I rather have the rojigualda with the republican coat of arms in the middle
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>>58809674

The north is the best place in Spain, and Asturians are one of the most based, chill and down to earth nice people I've ever met around the world.

Not a lot of gypsies in Austurias, but A LOT in Galicia. Be very careful. They are more obnoxious, dangerous and bad mannered than your country's ghetto niggers.

Also no muslims whatsoever, but be very wary of gypsies.

Niggers in Spain are extremely rare, and they never interact with people, except for selling stuff in the street. Most of them are african and very poor, so they stay low key to avoid conflicts with the police. They are generaly bros when you talk with them.
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>>58809398
Really, it's not that bad, niggers are mostly cool people and arabs are in the South mostly

I'd rather worry about gypos and canis, just don't look like a tourist and you should be good, tag along with someone who talks spanish so you don't get scammed
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>>58809674
>>58809674
Is worst on the south of spain, but there are moors all over the country. and two kind of gypsies, the landgypsies, and romanians.
Both are shit.
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>>58809650

That's depressing.

Are people really voting for this ?!
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>>58809935
>>58809868
>>58809840
>>58809780
thanks for the feedback guys, i'm half galician and half asturian but born here in the US
im thinking of relocating there in 2018/19 so we can fight in the race war together
are most of these gypos armed in your experience? what are good weapons to hike this huge 1000km distance with that your guardia civil wouldnt give me shit over
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>>58802017
good decision

i'll never understand why some think it's better to vote for shit as long as shit gets seats instead of something good or OK whether they will win something or not

i voted for their sister party
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>>58809325
More or less.

They started talking about not paying debt, but then in Madrid (where they got a major elected) continued reducing it using the plans of the previous conservative party and the media even bragged about it as if it was good. The major also inflated the numbers on child poverty so that it seemed like she was doing a good job.

In general, their plans to solve the economic situation in Spain is to give everyone free money and to rise the minimum wage, with obvious consequences in a country with 25% unemployement. The public funds will come from taxing the rich and magically solving all corruption in the country.

Their approach to immigration is to eliminate all border controls and give nationality to everyone that sets foot here, coupled with more money for them and the opportunity for illegal aliens to vote.

Their approach to gender issues is to consider all violence of men against women mysoginy by law justified by the Patriarchy, give more money to women for no reason and all around make lives for males way harder. They also said that the solution to Siria is a peace council, which should use feminist ideology to dialogue.

But people vote for them because they protect immigrants who didn't pay their mortgage in time from being kicked out from their houses.
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>>58809428
What should they do, in your opinion? If they proposed a pact with PP they would be lynched.
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>>58810100

Yes, most people in Spain, specially young people are extremely sjw liberals (pro abortion, pro "tolerance" , pro feminism etc...).

Then PSOE caters to old farts that are traditionally left and PP caters to the right wing retards (that are no more educated than the leftists) that are also abundant but not as many.

Podemos will become the second or third power after the elections.
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>>58810218
Nevermind.
Gypos are fuckin retard. They must have some jewish master as they are only good with the money.
their most effective card is that you cannot do anything to them for two main reasons:
I)That's racist payo
II)they move on packs. if you touch one, the pack will fall over you.

but if some day they see themselves in a open war, and they find resistance. They'll fall like leaves.

God, my english is awful...
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>>58810218

Gypsies are armed with knives and sticks, and attack in gangs.

Bring a folding knife, I brought a knife with me when I did the camino. You could also pick stones or a stick or maul on your way.

Gypsies are cowards, if you can get one of them bad, the rest will flee. I doubt you will be shanked but they will definately threaten you if they want to rob you.
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>>58810218
You will walk through forest and rural areas mainly, so no problems with people, I would be more scared about wolves and wild pigs.

Also, they rarely use guns here(I guess is because they cant even buy them), they prefer knives or simply their hands, but don't be scared, I never had a problem with them, just try not to provoke a single one, because if one is mad, then 10 appear from under the rocks.

>Galicians are everywhere in the world.
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Populism always win to democracies, that's just how it has been designed to be, to allow organized groups of idiots to tyranize everyone else with their wishfull thinking/delusions/ideologies.
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>>58799562

Pedro
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>>58810218
a gypo with a gun would just shoot himself accidentally, they are that retarded, also quite cowards, totally harmless if they are alone

Get a knife, there's quite a strong knife-culture in the north of Spain, bonus points for being practical in the trip, get another one as a gift to your relatives!
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>>58810637

Va a ganar el PP, pero sin mayoria.

Luego Podemos y luego PSOE y los demas.

Calling it now famalam
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>>58810660

Paco is a more stereotypical name, remember it for next time
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Trump
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>>58810327
we don't have a real pollitical option here, is really sad.
You have to choose between the bad and the less bad.
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>>58810690
My bet.

PP
C's
Podemos
PSOE
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>>58810218
You will love Galicia. Went there over the summer.
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>>58810735
I think he means Pedro Snachez...
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>>58810823
>>58810690
lel

Now let's be real

PP>PSOE>Podemos >= Cs
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>>58810775

I'm not voting lol

tengo cena de navidad esta noche and I'm going to get drunk as fuck
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>>58810823
I hope
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>>58810319
Vote against them (obviously also Podemos and PSOE) become the leaders of the opposition and win the next time, lots of PP voters will have naturally died by then (not that death prevents them from voting PP, but still)
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>>58807038
You know nothing Mexico. There aren't any good choices, and amongst those, pp is not even the lesser evil. I will vote podemos or ciudadanos, not because of conviction but because it will fuck up bipartidism, which is at least a sweet thing. Anyway, pp will probably win, but they will be forced to enter in a coalition with c's, so at least it will be interesting.

To my fellow countrymen in this thread, how likely is the formation of a big leftist coalition? Psoe+podemos+iu? Would they have enough votes?
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>>58810690
PP/PSOE/C's are populists too

What the heck, it's not only podemos, it's just that it in partiular goes with more wishful thinkin vnzla style

the rest push the same policies as every other peasant country in the world does

why coudln't we mimic singapour
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>>58810238
holy shit what

i voted for by mail for them because i'm tired of PP and PSOE and to try new things and at least have a laugh but
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>>58811069
It would make it impossible for anyone to rule in Spain, since every single combination (except PP+PSOE or the hell-spawn PP+PSOE+Podemos) would be brought down. And repeating elections seems a waste of time because I don't see the numbers changing too much.
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>>58811069
This is true, in Galicia most PP voters are either dead or terminally ill old people that cant even place the vote. A fuckin joke.
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>>58810238

Thanks.

What's the immigration situation in Spain ?

Is there a good right-wing ?

We have the same issue in France with party like "Front de gauche" but no one is voting for them anymore because of their main contradiction in their speeches, which can be sum up by :

"Against Banksters, for Immigration"

This is always the same bullshit in those so-called Anti-Capitalist parties, they promotes exactly what the Capital want. Replacing the average people with submissive voters fed with submissive people from third-world.
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>>58811255
but there's the consecuences of your peasant decision
congratz
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>>58811405

kek

I mean *fed with benefits
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I've never seen so many Spanish flags in my life
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>>58811405
>What's the immigration situation in Spain ?

we have gypsies, romanian gypsies, moors, niggers.

>Is there a good right-wing ?

No. both, right and left are filled with retards
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>>58811079
>how likely is the formation of a big leftist coalition? Psoe+podemos+iu? Would they have enough votes?
very unlikely, we don't have anyone as based as Le Pen to justify them from getting together, also IU kills all hope of gaining the central vote so it's a no-go

And of course, not close to having enough votes to outmatch a PP+C's

>>58811330
It's still better than 4 more years of Merkel's pet boy in government
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>>58809263
What? Of course not.

t. galician
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>>58811562
This, even I would like to vote a more conservative right-wing party I can't because they are so damn idiots onboard PP.

I wish falange would get more representation.
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>>58811405
right wing is VoX in spain, it doesn't reach enought voters to be represented anywhere

just like 'merica libertarian party here (p-lib)

every socialdemocrat policies consist on messing up the market and then blame the market

that's how things are since stone age, we can't quit trying
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>>58811747
>>58811748

pls, do not fool yourselves.
Left is filled with brats, but right is not any better "muh empire, muh glory holy trinity and virgen de la macarena, privatize the whole thing ASAP"
Etc
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>>58799562
>PP is trying to take you out from the shithole Zapatero put you
>Spanish economy is recovering.
>You will fuck it up giving everything to Venezuela-backed Podemos
I always said that Latin America degeneracy has nothing to do with "Iberian heritage", but after t. Antonio Barbosa and with the risk you will also screw it up I can say that I was damm wrong.
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>>58811255
The worst part is that I'm not exagerating. Read their programme, specially the part on immigration which is hilarious.

Ahora a disfrutar de lo votado :^)
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>>58811450
yeah i guess i should follow politics if i'm going to vote

i just watched 5 minutes of the debate on youtube and el coletas was the one who least embarrassed himself. it seemed to me that he understood what he was saying instead of reciting a monologue
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>>58809650
Any proofs or articles on this? It doesn't make much sense desu why would the big parties sabotage themselves?
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>>58812038
>Spanish economy is recovering.
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>>58811255
Read their program, starting from page 214. It's not even funny.

Although, nobody discusses this in the media...
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>>58812076
Because the big parties are just moved by money, the real dealers in Spain are banks, Electric corporations and telecomunications.
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>>58812038
>Spanish economy is recovering.

Confirmed for retard.
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>>58811906
privatizations actually improved the service quality here. The only thing that wasn't good was the price we sold them, but I think we didn't have much of a choice in that regard.
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>>58812169
>>58812226
Yeah... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-26/spanish-economic-growth-slows-in-third-quarter-as-imports-jump
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>>58812073
He is very charismatic, and has a campaign based on SJWism, gibsmedats and dank memes

Better read what you vote for next time, that's exactly how a retard ends in power
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are there any falangist party?
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>>58812073
so you're saying to me you're not judging the proposals but the candidate's appeal and confidence?

Holy shit, that's how islam radicals get new ppl, seducing idiots like you with confident non sense, as they lack criteria or intelligence to understand anything

those idiots are a good reflect of you who vote
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>>58812073
That's the worst part, Pablo Iglesias (as well as Alberto Garzon) are excellent talkers but their ideas are fucking shit and literally ruin countries, more than this socialdemocracy ever did. That's the problem with opposition parties that haven't touched power in a lot of time, they have it easy to create a safe discourse by simply criticizing the others.
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>>58812433
it's recovering in a rate that would take 100 years to go back to 2007 circunstances

and this is a fact
is it good or bad?

well, let's compare to singapour, from fucked up poor country to master tier of the world in three decades
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>>58811255
Damn he couldn't even finish his phrase, podemos sjw police works fast to prevent any form of patriarchal thought crime, rip anon, you won't be the same after your reeducation
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>>58812433
>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-26/spanish-economic-growth-slows-in-third-quarter-as-imports-jump
>bloomberg
Sounds trustworthy

Why should the spanish care about "alleged growth numbers" when people are earning less money while paying more? meanwhile corruption cases pop every month and nothing is done
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>>58812620
critics without any empirical based-analysis at all, which is important

their debates are just modern myths fighting
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>>58812797
>when people are earning less money while paying more?
take some BCE propaganda for that anwser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKxCW40_v8
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>>58812522
Yes, they are various in fact, some are a complete joke (like promoting race-mixing to soften their image), but they get so little votes that they are completely irrelevant.
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The ETA
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>>58813258
they are retired and the basques already have all they could want from madrid
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>all this podemos parasites browsing /pol/
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>>58812967
>BCE ensures prices are strictly regulated to prevent Euro inflation
>doesn't take into account the living standart
When did people think that a shared currency between countries with such different living standarts could work?
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>>58812726
At least you are still growing. See what Podemos supporters did with Venezuela. See what Podemos supporters are doing with us. Maybe you'll be choosing the worse of two evils
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>>58799562
How do most Spaniards feel about their Royal Family?

I know commies hate them...but how about the general population?

Just curious.
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>>58815193
You don't have to be a commie to hate them

The UK seems to be the only country where muhnarchy is mostly accepted
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>>58815280
I like the king.
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>>58799562
Blank.

Good way to fuck up the left without having to vote for the retarded right.

I would vote for Democracia Nacional, they were the best option for me, but they are not going to participate.
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>>58815193

At least the king is not as corrupt as his father, he is exactly the opossite of a cuck, he is not a manlet, he is able to breed white children, and every leftist is butthurt about him.

So he is mostly right on my book. Would fight for if he even decided to take over the country with the army (which he actually wants for what I know, I am a familiar of some military generals who actually know him personally)
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>>58815193
ROYAL LOLIS MUST BE PROTECTED
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>>58815193
New king is a pretty cool guy.
I would support him taking the control of the country if Far left party (Podemos) finally wins
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>>58815671
This, democracy is an elaborate joke, a combo of meritocracy/aristocracy is where it's at

>>58815893
Kek'd
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>>58816019
We all would.
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>>58809792
That is because you are a Royal Cuck. Republic matters. Death to the Rojigualda and all forms of monarchy.
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>>58815671
>At least the king is not as corrupt as his father
Moot point, the king can't be corrupted since he "owns" everything and is above the law so it doesn't matter

Also, corrupt =/= irresponsible

>he is exactly the opossite of a cuck, he is not a manlet, he is able to breed white children
He has no opinion of his own, he just goes on TV and says everything is fine while the country is being fucked from all sides, sounds like a cuck to me

>and every leftist is butthurt about him.
So, you like him because certain people don't, you are exactly what is wrong with democracy, defending not what you want, but what other people don't

Also, remember that if something had happened to the king, one of these may have been our beloved king, how can muhnarchists defend this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_de_Marichalar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C3%B1aki_Urdangarin
One a drunken irresponsible fag, whose son shot himself in the foot, offense that would cost the custody to any father
The other, the head of the biggest known corruption scandal

One of the few things in which I envy the french
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>>58816019
Wasn't this the plan all along though? Vote for podemos so they bring the civil war apocalypse we all love and deserve?
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It doesn't matter who wins, multiculturalism, lgbt, feminazis, welcome refugees etc will continue.
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>>58816370
this is so sad, society is totally brainwashed.
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I hope Podemos win this election, so they can get a dose of Patria in their country.
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>>58815193

I'm loyal to the King. Quite a few filthy traitors in Spain though
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>>58816352
I dunno man. I think this time they would win
>>58816611
Por qué no te callas?
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>>58816370

Not true.

Ciudadanos "han enseñado la patita", they talked about both immigration and feminazism and not in a positive light.

Remember a week ago with all the VIOGEN law scandal because Marta Rivera said that women should receive the same punishment as men for marital crimes?

Remember when Albert Rivera said that illegal immigrants shouldn't receive welfare and free healthcare?

Remember when Garicano talked about increasing border defenses in Melilla against African jumpers?

They are rapidly getting shut when they talk about this, but they throw hints of their true intentions, they just can't say it openly with an (even more) intense campaign against them. Spain is literally a leftist hellhole dominated by their political correctness standards, the Sweden of southern Europe.

Everybody is against C's, NOT AGAINST Podemos.

Wake up, retards.
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>>58816307
>if something had happened
>if
>if

If I had wings I would be a fucking angel, if yadda yadda
Surely, democracy guarantees that no retards who could fuck up the country gets ever elected. Plus, when one million retards vote they become a super-intelligent hivemind who can do no wrong and would never be swayed by demagogy or populist tactics. Praise democracy, the system that was never intended for large populations, but it works anyway because everybody says so!
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>>58816307
Forgot this

>One of the few things in which I envy the french

Yes, you should envy them, their republican system is so stable they are already in the fifth version, and now it's in the perfect form for cockblocking the rise of any nationalist party as you might have noticed in their last election
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>>58817089
>Democracy's execution is flawed
>That means muhnarchy is the ultimate form of government :^)
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>>58817359
>muh democracy
>muh "only viable option"
>fuck stability and tradition

Kill yourself.
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>>58816019
Better a Monarchic patriotic dictatorship than Podemos desu familia.
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>>58817359
it is
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I remind you that Podemos is second in all electoral surveys made only a few days ago.
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>>58817503
Going back to the Old days of absolute monarchy. If only we could...
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>>58817074
Nice try but I will not vote parties that support things like this.
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>>58817522
My fucking God...
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>>58799562
VoX.
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>>58817590
R-really?
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>>58817304
>>58817464
Yes, democracy is flawed, and it's abused as "tyranny of the majority" instead of it's original purpose of "make every voice heard and reach consensus and compromises"

Does that make muhnarchy good? No, it doesn't, it's libtard-tier reasoning

Pic related: another reason not to defend muhnarchy, because retards are everywhere and you can't kick out a king
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>>58817774
Problem? It's not like Spain is a beacon of enlightened democracy anyway.
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What do the Spanish here think of their monarchy?
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>>58814505
what exactly happened in venezuela with podemos? i don't follow these things
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>>58817806
That guys still ruled better (through ministers) than an elected official such as ZP
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>>58817522
>san miguel
jesus christ
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C i U

i

U
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>>58818096
>still better than cruzcampo
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>>58817669

Small changes like the ones mentioned before can stop this leftist tide we suffer and eventually turn it around.

You just have to be smart, Spain is a country where 88% of the population supports gay marriage (I "kinda" support it, in a way, why not... I'd prefer the "gay couples" definition tho), literally the highest percentage in the world along the UK, a highest percentage than Sweden for example.

You just can't go around pretending to win elections without giving some concessions.

There are "important" things and IMPORTANT things.

Besides, it's not about getting married with Rivera or praise C's as the saviours of Spain, he is not a nationalist, but he is patriotic and redpilled enough on some subjects to be the best vote option right now.
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>>58818153
>>58818096

Best spanish every-day beers:

1: Estrella Galicia
2. Estrella Damm
3. Mahou (?)
4. ....
99999. Pisscampo
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>>58818153
as always the north is the best at everything
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>>58817806
Always using this retard as an example, but in the long list of kings,we had, they were more than a few outstanding leaders. Now, in our short democratic history, find one who could compare to them. How would you make democracy a viable system? Imagine restricting the right to vote only for those who were landowners and who could understand basic political and economical concepts (democracy original form)? Im-fucking-possible, riots everywhere. We're better off betting for a good leader than waiting for the tyrannical majority to grow a brain. Former is way more likely.
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>>58818485
fuck i forgot

>>58818419
mahou is ok
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>>58818096
Estrella galicia is way better, and it's not even good
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>>58818577
A simple test about who takes part on the elections, so people have to know who defends what
Something simple to filter blind voters and ensure people know who they are and who they are not voting

Also, something, something, historical bias, something
We only have evidence that kings where good guys who dindu nuffin because saying otherwise was a death sentence, Carlos II especially got the shaft due to being the last of his dinasty, so his history was written by a different dinasty who gave no fucks about demonizing him
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>>58818485
Andalusia is the best at tapas, siesta and religious fanatism.
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>>58819084
>No proof=proof

Vete a freír esparragos
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>>58818223
thanks for explaining your ideas. I like Cs though They support too many things that I hate. I will probably vote Podemos and wait the answer of the king, army, etc Let's see...
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>>58819387
>wait the answer of the king,
don't be delusional, he can't and won't do anything other than talk
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>all these spanish flags
Let's change that
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Votaria a podemos. Sus medidas economicas me gustan, me parecen muy necesarias para recuperar nuestra soberania respecto al capital internacional, peeero no quiero que se llene españa de mas moros y demas basura humana. Tampoco me gustan las feminazis.
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>>58819387
>C's ve en Israel su modelo de I+D

Man, don't get blinded just because it's Israel.

First of all, Israel deserves some recognition, it's an isolated but succesful nation in the middle of a desert surrounded by enemies that despite everything tops the world on innovation.

What Rivera is talking about is the so called "Silicon Wadi", the Israelite version of Silicon Valley, which is an amazing cluster of innovation and development, we can learn from that.
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>>58816117
What republics you fag?
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>>58816307
Democracy is overrated. All systems suck ass and to think democracy is somehow better because you get to vote for your favorite cuck.
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>>58817359
Democracy is degenerate. You're a selfish lil cunt aren't ya?
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Welcome to communism comrades
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>>58817919
See
>>58815193

And last posts in this thread. It's a heated debate, some love them, some hate them, some want a republic for whatever reasons (could be communists or fascists, or maybe they like it better that way, no personal judgement). Personally, I think the current royal family is actually very decent, and given the chance, could make very good leaders.
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>>58817806
>because retards are everywhere and you can't kick out a king
You can't kick out politicians. inb4 "we vote em out." Once a politician..always a politician. So many people bitch and moan about how their presidents/prime minsters suck ass. Talk about impeachment...nothing happens. You think you upgraded from monarchy? Democracy is just a upgraded system from feudalism.
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Ciudadanos, Podemos can go to hell with his feminazism and pro ilegal inmigration
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>>58820196
No way, Israel have to be exterminated. If Usa and its European slaves supports me, I would be a successful nation too. I'm sorry but I love Hitler too much.
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>>58820625
Did you ser the video where he Tsipras ignored him in the european parliament? And now suddenly they are BFFs, topkek. At least Varoufakis stood by his ideas, that's why he got the fuck out while he could.
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>>58809325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D2a27dkPbQ
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>>58820954
*see, and I don't even know how "he" got there, damn
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>>58809118
Durruti pls...
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>>58820625
That's what you thinked first, now Greece still being the bitch of the Parlament
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Remember the plan tíos
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>>58820954
Yeah, it was better for both of them to break up.

>>58821264
Where do you think you're going? You're just following us in oblivion.
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>>58800309
how do you feel after syriza's letdown?
I voted syriza. How can we save ourselves from newliberalism?
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>>58821488

Hey, almost forgot to ask, where are your colonels? Is even a military coup still possible in Greece? What's the general political tendency in your armed forces?
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>>58821857
>What's the general political tendency in your armed forces?
fascist i guess

>Is even a military coup still possible in Greece?
Who knows. But that probably means civil war at some extend i think, not like the other time.
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>>58815193
They live well leeching off my taxes. Kings and queens don't belong to this century.
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>>58821488
Syriza make a "great" campaign for Podemos here when Greece was more fucked after they were elected, so i don't think so, and vote Golden Dawn the next time

Also how is going with the refugees?
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>>58822196
>vote Golden Dawn
kek

>Also how is going with the refugees?
Pretty chill, they come and go, people tend to forget we had a large number of immigrants since the 90s. So the recent influx is not a shock for the society like in N.Europe. most of them leave to germany anyway.
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>>58815193
Alright. Thanks anons.
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>>58822685
You have tried with Syriza and the thing still the same, you should try with another anti EU party i guess

It's good to know, i don't want Greece cucked like France and Germany
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>>58814042
lol you don't know too much economics don't you?

Sharing the currency is not a bad thing esentially, as in every international deal, for example, you buying a headphones, you won't have to pay a third party doing the currency exhange, which has cost

As long as that is not a bad thing, the problem is that they manipulate the amount of the currency, devaluating it, devaluatin your savings, the value of your salary and giving away money from nowhere to private banks, so they can keep giving credits away without caring for logical fiscal balances as any other bussiness in the real world

They don't prevent euro inflation, they cause market item's inflation due to arbitrary Euro deflation (more quantity of currency in circulation), so the interest rates are artificially low so every bussiness and citicien can base their lifes on bad decisions: taking loans for everything, so everything is fucked up so hard that the central bank MUST keep CHEATING and manipulating the amount of euros so the system don't fucks up

It's like a drunked man drinking more and more.

Good monetary policies do not exist. Money shouldn't be touched by estates, at all. They kill wealth and create economic cycles, systematic crisis and economic bubles. It will explode globally in few decades, as now every estate of retards are based on fiat currencies.
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>>58810823
>>58810880

same shit was predicted for Syriza.
Take it upon yourselves. If we couldn't do the difeerence, then you will have.
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>>58825800
Bo, you kinda missed the point, here. Euro deflation caused sustained drops in Greece's GDP, making them unable to continue paying debts. When Germany, who claimed that they only had to bleed the economy for it to do better (it never did), looked in, they say a mess...and wanted to clench a little harder around them.

Deflation and shrinking economies in the Eurozone after 2007 was primarily based in poor ECB response: Namely, "LET'S CUT TAXES AND CUT SPENDING!*"

*This is the exact opposite of what you should be doing.
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>>58824091
There's no solution through democracy and elections. We just have to be patient until the downfall.
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>>58799562
oh shit it's tomorrow?
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