What's the worst thing Vladimir Putin has done? I like him, but for some reason most Americans default to RUSSIA BAD OMG because of poor public school education.
I mean his party controls almost all of the media and he and his puppet alternate being presidents
he's essentially a king if you hate that kind of stuff
Assassinated some people
I like him though
Old skool
>>58708626
He's a manlet
>mfw Putin lead the way for Russia to become Democratic/Capitalistic
>mfw people after all these years still default back to 1970's Russia when they were still our sworn enimies
>>58708752
Every american should hate that concept.
>>58708930
Why? He doesn't rule over America, different countries have different values.
>>58708869
russia is far from being a free market you dipshit.
>>58708626
He kept a failing factory open against the business owners will so the employees could keep their jobs.
Literally more leftist than sanders. He'd rip our constitution into pieces.
>>58708978
Despite this he's set up a path that could make it a capability in the future.
>>58708971
In the sense of the word? A monarchy is opposed to everything a democracy upholds. No one should have that much power, its the same as supporting a theocracy. Todays monarchies are meme tier.
>>58708971
This.
You want an oppressive leader to control your enemy.
>>58708752
>he's essentially a king if you hate that kind of stuff
I don't. I may be biased because my dad's family is from Russia. He seems like a very pragmatic leader who has his people's' best interests at heart.
>>58708802
>>58708827
Yeah that's nothing to hate him over
>>58708930
>>58708971
>>58708998
It's not America though.. we don't have to share laws and government templates
banning homosex got people pretty riled up
he fired some dudes and sent a guy to jail once
He assassinates his political rivals, censors the Russian media, he fucked up Russia's economy by spending $50 billion on the Sochi Olympics, banned NGO's, and his government is corrupt as fuck. He has sold so many weapons to middle eastern dictators as well, effectively starting wars, then bombs poor people and acts as a hero.
He banned Finnish cheese
>>58709071
Yeah sure maybe after a century when his chronies have all died out and their children are addicted to krokodil. Everyone seems to think putin got rid of oligarchs, when in reality he just propped up his own. The Russian economy is suffering because the lack of diversity.
Absolutely nothing, he's Russia's Trump
>>58709131
>Dont have to share laws and government template
Agreed, doesnt mean I wont despise the form of government and what it creates. You're a fucking fag to be arguing for monarchy. No shit they can do whatever they want, the point is that we dont need to get a long with them either.
>>58709238
>your entire post
ayy
>>58709136
faggots are not people tbqhmdf
>>58708626
Almost all the normies I know view putin as cool and badass
>>58709330
Maybe he doesnt assassinate people, but his cult of personality does.
>>58709238
So...he's Obama minus Sochi?
k
>>58709136
> nationwide law banning distribution of materials promoting LGBT relationships among minors
that's not the same thing as banning homosex. lgbt parades are gay and disruptive. the suicide rate now is higher than it's ever been in the US, so it's really not helping anyone
>>58709238
obama has done all of that
>>58709329
this sounds like blind hatred. a lot of people are happy there right now
>>58709387
TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS ARE RACIST FASCISTS AHH SO STUPID IDIOTS
>>58708626
He made Russia great again.
>>58708626
Holocaust.
>>58709273
>lack of diversity
Sanders...Please
>>58708752
So why does he hate Obama? They sound like they would get along just fine.
>>58708626
Assassinates alot of his political rivals, suppresses freedom of speech
Nobody I've asked says they hate Putin. Americans are just leery about Russians because we had the nuclear apocalypse aimed at each other for half a century. Pretty understandable if you ask me.
>>58709729
He's right on the economical diversity though. The current establishment knows jack shit about economy, even though they may be good in other fields.
>>58709909
>Assassinates alot of his political rivals
nothing wrong with a good ol' fashion assassination
>suppresses freedom of speech
in what way
>>58709917
What the fuck are you talking about?
Andrey Illarionov played an important part in 13% flat income tax and openly opposes putins to continue financial stability
>>58710011
Look I love Putin too and fear a world where the US has no political rivals but pretty sure putin has the world record for murdering journalists/reporters etc. Also the sheer amount of corruption oligarchies are pretty bad too.
>>58710158
You don't look at Saudi, Turkey, and Ukraine do you?
>>58710090
And yet, we've seen substantial industrial growth in the chemical sector only. I'm not even talking about light industry here, when we fail to refine our oil properly.
>>58708626
having opposing politicians and journalists killed. As much as the guy may be right in some issues I can't look past that.
>>58708752
I think Russia needs some more time to convert.
Another form of government just won't work there.
You need kinda authoritarian 'democracy'.
>>58709762
he only respects his equals
obama is a certified kek
>>58710158
>>58710361
Is there any actual evidence?
>>58710354
no shit, the entire economy is based on it
Same way that canadian dollar is also based on the price of oil
You cant change that shit now no matter how many experts you put in place
You either double-down or go bankrupt
Fly into Turkey apparently.
Asshole supports seperatist movements in abkhazia and south ossetia
>>58710598
Zero.
You guys have to remember that USSR failed real hard.
If not by people like Putin, Russia would have been split in hundreds of small countries by now.
>>58710598
>>58710765
Everytime someone in Russia is super critical of putin they are thrown in jail or get shot. I guess thats all just coincidence
>>58708626
>Implying American media will stop hating Russia with a different president
>>58710820
its the what if
You can save them from the biggest disaster but because you let a city burn people will only focus on that
Nothing you can do
Until it actually happens people will complain
>>58710912
How many people? There are thousands of journalists in jail in Turkey and thousands on death row in Saudi Arabia. Journalists in Ukraine are killed every month as well.
>>58708626
Russia is a shithole and he isnt fixing it
>>58710912
You know house of cards isn't real right?
This guy openly opposes almost all of putin's decisions yet he got promoted to be his economic advisor
But I guess that's all just coincidence
>>58710695
Literally who?
>>58708626
>I like him,
mfw I can't figure out if your an edgelord or just poorly informed
>>58711042
What about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSbGbjtXtQ
Hour long Frontline special.
>>58708626
He don't want to suck America's dick.
>>58709084
But Saudis are our friends, Obama told me so :^)
>>58710912
>Everytime someone in Russia is super critical of putin they are thrown in jail or get shot.
Stop chugging propaganda. Open and outspoken enemies of Putin and Russia are still allowed to fucking leech the tax money, never mind being jailed.
>>58708626
Russia was in even bigger shit before him. All he did was take from everyone else and give to Russians.
But he only gives just enough to Russians for them to not rebel, but not enough for them to have a normal life.
He also rigs every single election in Russia and most surrounding countries.
He's like a twisted imperial Robin Hood.
And most Serbian people wouldn't mind him as the overlord of Serbia, not realizing that even our politicians are better than him.
It's a damn shame that Serbian pro-Western right wing was destroyed and demonized in WW2.
>>58708626
¡Jeb!: Trump can't be political on a world stage
¡Jeb!: Putin is a cruel and savage dictator
... Yeah well done hebbe.
>>58711085
NEVER GET MARRIED
>>58708626
The absolute worst thing?
Banned foreign adoption as a revenge for Magnitsky act. Thousands of sick orphans are already dead and are going to die soon.
>>58711182
Russia, your last decent leader was Peter the Great. Everyone since was some incompetent pushover or murderous dictator. Your country is a joke
>>58711085
I like Putin.
>>58711316
Peter the great was a murderous dictator. During his reign Russia was depopulated by 20%
>>58711316
Peter the Great personally tortured his rivals, so there is that.
>>58711366
>>58711373
I stand corrected then. Russians sure love killing other Russians
>>58711143
What about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54odJUbGAHw
An hour long documentary on why refugees should be allowed into europe and how their all scientist
Its almost like it was made to invoke an emotional response
>>58711266
oy vey
Seriously though, fuck off shlomo.
>>58711412
US presidents don't kill their people, just millions for people around the world.
>>58711412
>Magnitsky act
That's because Russians never respected the sanctity of life.
Serbs were literally the non-murderous civilized version of Russia before WW2.
>>58708626
Who gives a shit? What has he ever done to us? Let him do what he wants in his country, and we can do the same. If you go looking for enemies, you will find them.
>>58711524
What is with you commies and whataboutism?
The topic is criticism aimed at Putin. It does exist, because it's inevitable as a leader, and deflecting is kind of silly.
Anyways, you should watch the video, even if you really like Putin. Then perhaps you could formulate a proper response.
>>58708998
>He kept a failing factory open against the business owners will so the employees could keep their jobs.
You say it like it's bad thing. Imagine, a government looking out primarily for its people.
Putin is alpha as fuck, anyone from my country who hates him is a leftie weak fuck who has been brainwashed by our biased media and SJW's.
>>58711669
I'd rather not base my political views about a man when the title screen is clearly an edited picture of him as some sort of supervillain
If you can give me hard facts on paper, great, otherwise it's just fear mongering propaganda
There's even a party dedicated to taken down putin
I dont see them getting shot on the street for protesting at his every speech
Read up on it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Russia)
List of crimes Jewtimir Pootin hasdone against Russia.
Gave couple jews control over all the countries natural resaurces (Miller, Sechin,Fridman etc) and is giving nations budget money to his jewish friend Rottenberg for nothing which in turn resulted in capital flow of 1Trillion right into
USA banks
Destroyed Russias industry and made it fully depending on oil prices.
Sank Kursk.
Destroyed space station Mir.
Destroyed Nuclear trains.
Destroyed Nuclear warhauses.
Let in 10 million immigrants from
central Asia.
Made laws to protect immigrant
and muslim feelings.
Let's look at genocide of Russians
under Pootins reign
20 Million abortions
10 million deaths
170 died when Pootin ordered to
gas Moscow theatre.
118 died during Kursk dissaster
As result of poverty millions of Russians have retreated to drug usage and alchocolism. Russia has one of biggest AIDS rates in the
world and is one of heaviest drinking Nations on earth.
As far As I know healthcare in
Russian education has lover financing than net worth of Pootins daughter whichves in fucking Gayrope of all places.
Likewise kids of almost all Russian politicians and oligarchs live in the west.
>>58710914
I don't think that will change I just wanted to know who the US would be getting in bed with if a Trump-Putin bromance forms. I like both of them right now, but know relatively little about Putin that doesn't have a liberal spin to it
>>58710912
that's bullshit liberal logic. an opponent of putin's could have just as easily done it to frame him or cast doubt on his morals. a crazy person that likes putin could have done it to gain his attention. those are both very plausible. coincidence doesn't cut it
>>58711038
america's not too great either we have monkeys roaming the streets
>>58711085
I'm 27-ish and my father's side immigrated from there so I feel some Russian pride. I was just curious if he'd play nice with the US or if there was some sort of moral reason (I'm Christian) to dislike him. Nice Katy pic
>>58711220
That's stuff I did already know about Russia. I didn't know about all of the "assassinations"
>>58711266
Wait so foreign countries can't adopt Russian babies? Any way around that I've been thinking of adoption
>>58708626
He's Russian.
>>58711656
It's more about forming an alliance with him and reigning in NATO to end it. I think a Trump-Putin alliance is the best shot of dodging WWIII and having peace time for a while. I'm curious to see how Trump does with North Korea and China
>>58711945
hey fuck you asshole i'm half russian
Putin is an autocrat if you look at his individual political power. If you compare his power to other presidents he has unilateral power in policy decisions.
>>58711881
He also saved russia after the collapse of the soviet union
But I don't expect gypsies to be grateful of anything
>>58711971
>i'm half russian
I'm so sorry for you.
>>58710616
Yes we can.
>Blew up entire apartment complexs to fuel war against Chechnya & Georgia
>Kept government money instead of staving off starvation in St. Petersburg.
I could go on but the point is you are naive if you are puzzled as to why many dislike him.
In my opinion he's ruthless, conniving and shady as hell. That's exactly the type of mentality required to become a dominant figure in that political landscape. He's a force to be reckoned with.
>>58712059
>fingirl1.jpg
They don't sell bebs! here.
>>58711994
Elaborate? How exactly? What has Putin done for Russia?
>>58711881
It's literally NOTHING compared to what Obongo did.
>>58711994
Nice gypsy detector.
>>58711908
>That's stuff I did already know about Russia. I didn't know about all of the "assassinations"
Putin is a dictator. Assassinations come with the territory.
And don't compare Trump with Putin or expect a bromance. Trump is a man who genuinely cares about his people. Putin only uses his official policies to make them vote for him. In reality, he doctors the statistics to make Russia look safer, less Muslim and more Christian. In reality, Christian:Muslim ratio is much lower in Russia than in EU, even with all those immigrants.
The way Putin handles Mudslime-infested places is:
1. Put his man in charge
2. Pump the place with money
He intentionally made it so as soon as he is gone, the whole country starts to crumble, so he would be celebrated as a good leader.
We already had one like that and dumb people still like him.
>>58712151
Elaborate. What exactly has Obongo did?
>>58712134
why cut off at 2008?
>>58712207
>we
>>58712279
Didin't had as good one as yours. Thank you.
All it took to lover oil prices and Russian economy is as small as it was when Pu just took over.
>>58712293
We as in Serbia as in Yugoslavia as in Tito.
>>58712134
He started by slashed taxes to benefit business, he also renationalised key sectors, starting with the breakup of political foe Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s Yukos oil company in 2003
He set the standard to oil and made it boom, while in the long term thats not the best idea but its still better then total economic ruin which is what would have happened if it had been anyone else
This
>>58712409
Why cut at 2014? In 2015 Russia GDP is as small as when Pu just took over
>He set the standard to oil and made it boom,
Since when does Pu control oil price?
>>58709136
He banned Conchita Wurst-style propaganda. How do you fancy seeing Conchita Wurst EVERY TIME YOU OPEN A FUCKING NEWSPAPER, huh, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes
>>58712452
1999 Oil price per barrell 20 dollars
2013 Oil price per barrell 150 dollars.
>>58712279
>>58712335
>>58712335
Nice meme mate. Most of that move is simply because you denominate everything in dollar. Other than that it "only" took entite europe and the US a fuckton of stupid unneeded measures against Russia.
Enjoy your 10 last years as reserve currency.
>>58712452
And what about 1990-1999? What about 2014/15?
see
>>58711220
>>58712207
>>58712339
>>58712527
https://youtu.be/PDiMlO0YydA?t=1m11s
>>58712538
Clearly that was Putin and not OPEC.
>>58712335
> All it took to lover oil prices
> what are economic sanctions
Lithuania, please. You will be back with Mother Russia soon.
>>58712582
you are agressive one? Aren't you?
>>58712499
Because that's as far as my snipping tool would go
He made it boom by making people take russian oil instead of competitors
Its easy to criticise now because you can see many countries who have done the same having a lower GDP, but when it comes to the two choices its either that or Russia not existing at this day, today
But sheep will never be happy with the grass they have
>>58712564
>And what about 1990-1999?
Putin wasn't in office until 2000
>>58708752
>Almost all of the media
Well about 50% of it specifically, that's including the media sector of Gazprom which is also state owned too obviously.
>>58708626
Caused a currency crash while distracting the public with claims that he is the best judo fighter to ever defeat a bear and lion in wrestling
>>58712234
*Wasn't able to build WORKING website for 5 billions (I checked that shitsite personally, performance is pathetic, design kinda ok, but usability sucks really hard)
*I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but after repeating million times during his rallies some idea - 'we wont do X' - after some time or some years his government does exactly opposite of what he said (I guess it's ok for some people and politicians, but it's not ok for me)
*Supplied arms to terrorists together with Shitlarry Clitor.
*Were totally reluctant to supply defensive stuff to Ukraine
*Can't say anything good without teleprompters
*Can't even lip sync with HIS OWN speech
*Should I mention fucked up Iran deal?
*How about US prisoners in Iran?
*Screwed Israel (I don't like jews, but I like Israel)
*Mudslime friend
*Acting like a beta faggot, slow as shit whats related to ISIS oil bombing
*A lot of stuff... a lot
>>58712564
Yeah its clearly fair to judge him on his performance right after the collapse of the soviet union. I bet if Obama came to power in Russia in 1990 hed have made the ruined country great again in less than a yeae by introducing a 20k per year obamacare system.
2014-2015 really cant be taken into account as there was a huge joint venture of europe and the us sanctioning russia while they did nothing wrong in ukrain.
>>58712610
What kind of santctions? WHat exactly has west done to Russia? Most of sanctions are mostly done by Russia, mainly not buying western stuff. Big deal.
>>58708626
Because propaganda. Putin is best thing that happened to Russian in a century. And he is not opressor, Free medias exist, he doesn't need to jail his opponents because there is literally noone close to his popularity.
The only true claim of this thread is that he is somewhat authoritarian. But hey its the way we like it, there are advantages to that anyway.
>>58712680
Well luckily USA is not a dictatorship and Obongos power is very limited and he is soon going to leave the office.
>>58712622
So now because i dont believe putin magically raised oil price denominated petrodollars i am aggressive. Wot.
>>58712722
+15
>>58710912
Yeah this isn't true, there are cases but those are complicated cases. It's by no means anywhere near all
>>58712757
So that wasn't sarcasm?
S-sorry.
>>58712629
>>58712697
>show a statistic when he was in office
>not show those before
ever since yeltsin came to power, russian economy was in upward trajectory. this will be obvious if you show the statistics from that time. and then if you show the 2014/2015 statistics, they will also show a plummet due to his imperialist tendencies that caused the sanctions.
make no mistake, putin is a corrupt kgb agent, nothing more
>>58712772
You are not even russian, what do you, brainwashed garbage, know about my country?
>>58712795
Litteraly the only difference between Yeltsin and Putin is oil price.
>>58712720
Is this kid for real or is lathowinua known for slavtrolling?
>>58712720
People who dont buy russian oil, which in turn lowers the amount of GDP and money circulating in Russia
>>58712722
Is he keeping a balance or the scales are tipping to some particular side? Authoritarian-Democracy?
>>58712823
I know enought.
>>58712774
>there are cases but those are complicated cases.
no kidding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
>On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome. Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.
>>58712795
>ever since yeltsin came to power
this is the first time I have seen someone come to the defense of Yeltsin
>>58712795
Sanctions were caused by butthurt murrica because putin wasnt ok with usa installing a non-democratically elected puppet government in ukrain. Literally everyone including the dogs in crimea wanted to go back to russia as theyd be discriminated as fuck under the new rule.
>>58712059
What you said is true, but honestly he's the lesser of the evils involved on the world stage right now.
The US has military supremacy all over the planet with bases and nukes facing fucking everywhere, it constantly spies on its own people and has goals of complete global Orwellian control through clandestine black ops and control of the drug trade.
Israel insists on building an apartheid state while simultaneously forcing the push towards multiculturalism in Europe and generally destabilizing the middle east in hopes of bringing about their own little apocalypse. Both aforementioned countries have been involved in plots to stage false flag attacks against their own people killing thousands to set the stage for further land-grabbing and profiteering with public support.
Europe is totally on-board with the whole "wipe out all our fucking culture" idea Israel keeps pushing and houses/sympathizes with/funds terrorists. Aids the US in their goals of global domination.
China is just an emotionless industrial machine that wants to devour the planet.
Russia seems rather quaint and innocent in comparison to the amount of crimes other countries have committed against their own people and others.
>>58712860
>look guys i can post le +15 meme too
>this makes me le epic expert
Upvoted.
>>58709910
America and Russia have no reason to be enemies now. What motivation do the Russians have for hostility towards America? Ideological? Communism and the Cold War have been over for a long time. The Cold War was thawing out by '88. Yet many American anons still seem to think that Russia is The Enemy, as if Stalin or Khruschchev were still in charge and Red Dawn might happen tomorrow.
>>58712967
Okay, let's engage in Debate. What exactly has Putin done for Russia. How is he saving it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52IyzVZTHY
>>58709238
>Taking a Strayan seriously
Although hes partly right
>>58712899
that's because it takes at least 10 years for the measures required to rebuild a failed economy to take effect on a large scale.
probably even more in case of russia, because it's so huge.
the only way to know which measure worked is to look at who did what.
yeltsin was the one who jump started the russian industry. putin is the one who solidified his power over it.
i can't find it anymore, but there was a great study that projects how well off russian economy would be if yeltsin policies continued, and it's even if we don't count the fact that russia would also have a much bigger stake in the western markets.
>>58712909
you're not fooling anybody, ivan
>>58710912
You must have plenty of cut and dry examples to show us then.
>>58711759
How fucking ignorant are you? Putin created a 1% which owns 99% of Russia's wealth. There is no middle class. Putin is worth an estimated 325 BILLION USD. This is looking out for his people? He uses them to make himself money, he sees them as slaves.
>>58712967
russia save me please
I have pretty recessive genes so i can make pretty little blonde girls for you!
>>58713054
>le savior meme
>i'm an expert on what you think
>>58713076
Who would I possibly want to fool as Belgian?
The red-pilled version of Crimea was all over /pol during that time. You must be new here.
>>58708752
>controlled media
>puppets being president
How is this any different from the USA?
>>58709238
"No."
>>58713118
The 50 richest people of the United States have more money than everyone else together.
> How fucking ignorant are you? Putin created a 1% which owns 99% of Russia's wealth
You'd fit right in mate. Maybe your countries should merge.
>>58709238
And he made Russia recover from the abyss that was the 90's.
>>58713178
>The 50 richest people of the United States have more money than everyone else together.
This site is 18+ family
>>>/zeitgeist/
>>58711553
Great argument, gaylord.
>>58713178
Actually Russia has far bigger wealth inequality than USA
USA is at least pretending to care with Proportional taxes and with fighting corruption
>>58713143
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/05/putins-human-rights-council-accidentally-posts-real-crimean-election-results-only-15-voted-for-annexation/
it wasn't this, was it?
>>58711220
Wow, a Serb cuck.
>>58713076
>yeltsin was the one who jump started the russian industry.
>i can't find it anymore, but there was a great study that projects how well off russian economy would be if yeltsin policies continued
did you forget about 1998?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis
>>58711908
You can't adopt in Russia and anyway Ukraine is a better choice.
>>58713043
Did you forget all of Putin's complaints with the current state of affairs in regards to US foreign policy? A bromance between Trump and Putin wont be viable if Trump refuses to cut back on military spending and the number of foreign bases and nukes they have.
>>58708978
Neither are we, dipshit
>1999
>non-petroleum exports: $42B
>total: $70.6B
>2013
>non-petroleum exports: $170B
>total: $507B
Might be better but at least we won't collapse. It's not the 90s anymore. Stay comfy /pol/.
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/rus/all/show/1999/
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/export/rus/all/show/2013/
>>58713223
Ok I exaggerated, let me use the real numbers:
The 20 richest Americans have more money than the poorest 50% together.
That's still 20 people having more money than almost 200.000.000 people.
>>58713118
There is a growing russian middle class, Putin is the only reason there is one
>>58713254
Didn't know you had excel in that buffer country.
>>58713270
Nigger. The onlky reason there was a crisis in 1998 because of low oil prices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxGNZb9iEVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlLWJYVMo9I
>>58713178
>>58713254
You goddamn idiot.
>>58708626
proxy war in ukraine
>>58713118
It was on the news, it must be true.
'murica
>>58713392
Do you credit Yeltsin with the recovery?
>>58713254
:((((((
>>58713118
>Putin is worth an estimated 325 BILLION USD
lulno. Let's consiuder events since 1989.
Yeltsin almost killed Russia with the 'shock therapy' of privatisation. Putin dragged them back from the brink and stated building a competitive nation.
>>58713401
Please subscribe to your platinum obamacare contract where you'll pay 20.000 a year before getting anything covered.
>>58713359
I am not even Lithuanian, so I don't really care, but Lithuania at least has history. Belgium is just lol
>>58713270
>implying it wasn't sabotaged by putin
>>58713267
>wanting independence and freedom
>cuck
only a britbong can be this retarded
>>58713435
Sill smaller than in Russia nad goverment at least pretends to care. In Russia no one even pretends to care.
>>58713303
So?
>>58713260
>forbes.com
>forbes.com
>forbes.com
Check your sources.
>>58713435
Also USA at least has exuse. 40 million niggers, 40 million spics. Really think I care about poor niggers and spics?
>>58713459
>implying I support niggercare
>imying I disagree with the way Putin runs things
>>58708626
He did nothing to make economic independent from oil-prices. The result is 70 rubles per dollar.
>>58713485
You're a Pro-Western whipping boy even after what they did to your nation. You are the epitome of a cuckold
>>58713485
even with that implication how is that in favor of Yeltsin?
>>58713465
>>58713498
Putin cares more about Russia than Obama will ever care about the USA. This is why the US is losing their world power #1 status rapidly. They are cucked by israel and "our arab friends".
Hur dur isis beheads people they are demons. Let's give the beheading maniacs of Saudi Arabia billions guise, sounds like good plan.
At least Putin is saying things as they are.
>>58713570
Dumb armugment. UK has fought bozens of wars against France, Germany and many other nations yet is still part of of EU and NATO etc.
Outside western world there is nothing. With who should Serbia be friends with ? Nigeria? Chad? India?
>>58712849
I'd say he doesn't tip, he doesn't even keep balance, he let the things go their own way, to develop. You know after dire 90s ideology of having food and stabile future currenty is what most population likes.
>>58712869
Why would they kill this guy? All he could have known is at least decade old. Putin did not benefit from his death. But you know who did? Berezovsky, the guy Litvinenko was working for. They met in London prior his death.
Berezovsky suddenly killed himself later in London just after sending letter to Putin where he asked for forgiveness and a favor and permission to return to Russia.
>>58713563
Who needs the economic, when you're preparing for ww3?
>>58713513
http://old.president-sovet.ru/structure/gruppa_po_migratsionnoy_politike/materialy/problemy_zhiteley_kryma.php?print
>>58713570
i'm not pro-western, i'm anti-putin. europe should be united and all european nation should fight for their cultures instead of destroying them in order to prevent being russified
>>58713613
Putin cares more about Russia than Obama will ever care about the USA.
You are right. That's why Putin let Jews controll all the nations national resourses to couple of Jews who send all the money that belong to Russian people to banks in Europe and USA. It's because Putin care about Russia his daughers life in Europe. It's because Putin cares about Russia he has sank Kurks and destroyed MIR. It's because Putin cares about Russia he has destroyed Nuclear Trains and Nuclear Warehauses. It's becaise Putin cares about Russia he has deindustrialised it and mate it dependent on oil prices. It's because Putin cares about Russia there is genocide of Russians going on in RUssia,
>>58713585
i'm not saying that yeltsin is perfect. he was weak compared to putin. but that's an even bigger problem: he's strong and smart, but all he cares about is himself.
>>58713118
>How fucking ignorant are you?
Uncalled for rudeness. Surely your excellently researched argument precludes the need for anger?
>Created a 1%, no middle class, it's 'estimated' the tyrant Putin stole all the monies.
Got any proofs you'd care to share with us, friendo?
>>58713465
Cool story bro.
>>58713819
Great argument kiddo.
>>58713613
>Putin cares more about Russia than Obama will ever care about the USA
I'm Russian and I'm so fucking tired of blue-pilled idiots like you
>>58713738
So Putin made a good 10 year long bet on oil and won.
>>58708626
better dead than red
>>58713834
Your argument is somehow thinking that "Lithwanonia" has a longer and bigger history than Belgium.
We both got cucked over 9000 times during the centuries but at least we got some cool Caesar quotes going for us.
>>58713899
And now that oil price is low again? What now?
All the money went into western banks, not into making Russia great again or something...
>>58710456
This is the exact reason why democracy in China just doesn't work. Too many people, too many smart people, too many people with too many ideas. You only need to look at our history to understand why we need to stay united.
>>58708626
He hurt some folks.
Russia will die in the future because in 20/30 years the age of oil will be over.
Beslan
>chechen terrorists
>800 grade school kids hostage
>STORM THE PLACE I DON'T GIVE A FUCK
>>58709238
He doesn't assassinate political rivals,
media is censored in every country,
Russia's economy could easily afford Sochi, and most of the funds were rebuilding roads, plumbing and other things that needed fixing,
NGOs that take money from other countries get banned in the US too,
selling weapons to middle eastern dictators is done by everyone except australia because you can't weaponize kangaroos,
he didn't start Ukraine, Chechnya, Georgia nor Syria,
and Al Quaeda is not poor, despite what John Kerry tells you.
It's funny because Putin has had fewer people assassinated than Barack Obama but because Putin is "alpha" they only attack him for it.
>>58713992
Fuck off back to China ChingChongDongLong.
>>58710695
People have a right to self determination. If they didn't, then Georgia would be rightfully a part of Russia.
>>58713285
So you see that there's no fundamental reason why America and Russia have to be enemies. The tensions are being caused by American/NATO expansionism. But why does NATO have to expand in the first place?
>>58714131
Kek
Being this bluepilled RT fanboy
It's almost 2016
>>58713563
Putin has revived our civil aviation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7OZBrcCE_Q
Russia is slowly waking up.
>>58714199
and kosovo and montenegro would be ours
>>58712125
kek
>>58713715
>all european nation should fight for their cultures
If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle
>>58708930
Not really, there is a reason why the founding fathers wanted America to be a constitutional republic rather than a democracy.
>>58708802
really. would you order to kill some shitty opposition nobodies unknown to public when your support is around 80% ? they were taken out by their NATO partners because they were ineffective otherwise
>>58708752
>>58708930
why dont u since all ur media is controlled by jews
>>58714434
s around 80%
>>58714199
Georgia
Rightfully part of russia
wot?
2500 yo civilization part of 250 yo empire after 150 years of affiliation?
That the kind of retards who post here.
>>58713303
Socialist scum, please.
>>58714265
It's nearly NOT the current year.
It's nearly a new current year
>>58714199
>People have a right to self determination
Except Chechnya?
>>58708626
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
Yuri Felshtinsky, Litvinenko, David Satter, Boris Kagarlitsky, Vladimir Pribylovsky, and the secessionist Chechen authorities claimed that the 1999 bombings were a false flag attack coordinated by the FSB to win public support for a new full-scale war in Chechnya, which boosted Prime Minister and former FSB Director Vladimir Putin's popularity, and brought the pro-war Unity Party to the State Duma and Putin to the presidency within a few months.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23] According to the theory, the bombings were a successful coup d'état organised by the FSB to bring Putin to power. Some of them described the bombings as typical "active measures" practised by the KGB in the past. David Satter stated, during his testimony in the United States House of Representatives,
"With Yeltsin and his family facing possible criminal prosecution, however, a plan was put into motion to put in place a successor who would guarantee that Yeltsin and his family would be safe from prosecution and the criminal division of property in the country would not be subject to reexamination. For "Operation Successor" to succeed, however, it was necessary to have a massive provocation. In my view, this provocation was the bombing in September, 1999 of the apartment building bombings in Moscow, Buinaksk, and Volgodonsk. In the aftermath of these attacks, which claimed 300 lives, a new war was launched against Chechnya. Putin, the newly appointed prime minister who was put in charge of that war, achieved overnight popularity. Yeltsin resigned early. Putin was elected president and his first act was to guarantee Yeltsin immunity from prosecution."[155]
>>58714486
I rank your reading comprehension 0/10.
>>58708626
>PUTIN
Worst thing he has done to America? is he cucked Obama so hard, i think he actually cried.
He has not really done anything bad to america. Countries have their own best interest at heart, and he has done same thing america does. Do your own interest so you gain the most.
Americans just dont like him bc he kind has cucked america geo politically some.
Elect Trump. He respect Trump's greatness, and knows Trump wont take it in the ass like Obama.
>>58714546
Well, the majority of the population of Chechnya were Russians until after the Chechnyans were done with their genociding. There's a whole lot that can be said about this sort of thing, but I'll just keep it down to:
> PEOPLE have a right to self determination.
>>58714486
So Israel does not have a right to exist then? It's only existed since the 1940s, if I recall correctly. Surely it should be arabic clay. :^)
Oh yeah, and just because you've earned a reply:
>>58714265
Nothing I said was untrue though.
>>58714434
Gaddafi had 99% support a few month before they literally tore him apart.
Ceausescu had 100% support a few month before his execution.
Justice is coming soon.
Not that I care, I don't like Russian liberals.
>>58708626
Putin is a Russian ethnic nationalist.
His only concern is improving his position by improving the position of Russians. This means he has no problem invading any nation that happens to have Russian inhabitants, like George and the Ukraine.
I am for ethnic nationalism when it is White nationalism. Putin is not a White nationalism. He is an Ethnic Russian nationalist. He gladly weakens majority White countries if it will improve the position of Russians as exemplified by his vocal support for separatist movements in the USA and Europe. In his mind a balkanized Europe and America is a good thing because it improves the position of ethnic Russians.
tl/dr: he is anti-White
>>58708626
We were up-river with a tour group looking at all the natural beauties here when I spied a young Vladimir Putin hiding in the shadow of a tree near a gravel bank. I swung the tour-boat around so we could get a better look, and all the tourists exclaimed and took pictures. It’s not too unusual to see Putin in the spring. That’s the time he migrated through here to his summer stomping grounds up North.
We were in for a treat today. The guy jumped out of the shadows suddenly, leapt into the river, and wrestled a seven-foot sturgeon onto the gravel bank. I blinked in astonishment. I didn’t know Putin liked sturgeon. As we watched, he belted the big fish with a rock to stop its flopping.
Right at that moment, a big black bear came stomping down the bank on the opposite shore looking for a snack. The bear took one look at the ol' Vlad with the sturgeon, sitting on the opposite shore, and leapt into the water. In the blink of an eye, that bear was across the river and wading out of the water, while the tourists babbled and took pictures. The bear shook itself dry like a dog, and then jumped onto the back of Putin, beating on him until he ran away from the sturgeon, leaving the bear to sniff in triumph over the large fish.
Well, I thought that was the end of it, until Putin came running back down the hill holding a dead tree in his hands. He started beating on the bear and the bear was whomping back at him something fierce. Fur was flying everywhere; blood spurted out like a geyser. I don’t know where it would have ended if I hadn’t waded in there and broke it up!
>>58714696
Putin is a Russian ethnic nationalist.
Which is why he let in 10 million immigrants from central Asia and has made laws to protect their feelings and which is why he has banned RUssian nationalism, put all Russian nationalists in prison and why overall all the Russian nationalists hate him?
>>58714781
These memers won't get it.
>>58714781
And no Russian nationalists are not paid by Americans and no revoliution in Ukraine was not nationalistic. Russian nationalists are self fundet and Revoliution in Ukraine was by pro EU neo Liberals
>>58714101
the paris attack should've taught you that you can't negotiate with mudslimes
>>58714101
They were shooting them en masse inside the rooms. The longer the wait the more bodies pile up.
>>58708626
I don't get the putin haters. Do they actually believe that someone else could have done a better job?
This man salvaged russia from irrelevance and remade it back into a world power even with the worlds most powerful nation shitting in his milkshake at every turn. I genuinely believe he does what he thinks is best for his people.
Fucking good on him.
>>58714403
so that means we should all just give up and glorify a man who uses cheap tricks to gain political points and will lead russia and possibly the rest of the world, to its destruction?
what happens when putin dies and russia falls? make no mistake, the only ones motivated to rise to top will be muslims.
and they will also be the only ones with enough money, beside the jew oligarchs
>>58714991
>Do they actually believe that someone else could have done a better job?
Yes
>This man salvaged russia from irrelevance and remade it back into a world power even with the worlds most powerful nation shitting in his milkshake at every turn.
No. Putin did what little he did because western nations brought expensive oil from Russia.
>I genuinely believe he does what he thinks is best for his people.
If by his people, you mean Jews. Agreed.
>>58709253
BURN IN HELL PUTIN
>>58714991
russia was always relevant, my friend. the only way for it to stop being relevant is dissolution of russia and putinism will lead to it.
>>58714991
Yeah, sure.
Minimal pay in Russia is 100$ and it's widespread. Cost of living is Germany-tier. Great relevant nation for sure.
>>58714675
LOL, and jews claim to be redpilled on this board
faggot, Libya was taken over by foreign mercenaries who destroyed the infrastructure of richest country in the region
>>58714484
plz. butthurt Lithukek, this was a bug in their software. People voted for him and will vote again
show this shit to Ukrokeks you're in the same boat now, cannon fodder for ameripigs
>>58714594
>mudslime terrorism happened before and after that attack
>but apparently it was the fake one, for whatever reason
>implying mudslimes didn't terrorize russians for years before that
>implying the decision to fuck up chechnya wasn't the right one
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teppopиcтичecкиe_aкты,_coвepшённыe_в_Poccии
>>58715114
People vote in North Korea mate.
People alegedly used to vote in Libya.
>>58715113
They could crush your country like an insect and not even notice the military expenditure. I'd say that's relevant.
>>58715046
>Yes
Who?
>>58715114
>Be Russian
>Go to hospital
>Get AIDS
>Die
>>58714991
russiaboos never present any reason for being in love with putin
are you a cyberwarrior?
>>58715174
Hahahhaha. It's what edgy fedoras think on this board. I grew up on a Soviet Military base, man. It's Zimbabwe tier military wrapped in propaganda.
>>58715007
Russia didn't fall in the fucking 90s, Russia won't fall now >>58713301
>>58715136
Eh, Caucaisians have been stiring up trouble forever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Mansur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940%E2%80%9344_insurgency_in_Chechnya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_anti-Chechen_pogrom_in_Eastern_Kazakhstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechen-Slav_ethnic_clashes_%281958%E2%80%9365%29
Even tought duo to Putins incopetence war in Chechnya was costly and very poorly done. I did support it.
Didn't he do that thing where he blocked imports of foreign food?
>>58715136
Litvinenko just accidentally overdosed on polonium. Vlad was a good boy didn't do nuthin'.
>>58715159
are you retarded? i surely know better what happened here than some autistic Lithukek living under US propaganda for over a decade
>>58715179
>be Russian
>get surgery that would put Euro or Amerikek in debt
>get it for free. paid by state
You realize if you faggots start a new war Israel's gonna catch some nukes ?
I bet the ruling class in States are using jews as doomsday scapegoats, they gonna let you be blown the fuck out then celebrate with rest of the world
>>58715174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3OSjqR5tS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SCdAUy7AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFovzWAPSg4
He's an authoriatian dick, but he cares about his nation on some level unlike several western leaders/politicians. I don't personally like him but he seems to be good for russia, which is what matters.
>>58715220
I just give credit where credit is due. Pretty much every day he has to deal with america and all it's allies shitting on/sanctioning russia and they should have become another american puppet state by now but putin has managed to take a really, really bad situation and stay afloat somehow with enough juice left over to flew some military muscle.
>>58715368
Nigger. Maybe in USA, but in most of Europe healthcare in free
>US propaganda for over a decade
Unfortunetly most of my vamily is Vata so I constanlty am forced to listen to kiselev rambling non stop.
But overall I fallow independen Media
>>58715388
>but he seems to be good for russia
He is definetely not, read this fucking thread.
>>58715113
this. the jew speaks the truth for once
>>58715415
You are Right. 1 thousand year old nation would just become puppet of USA if not for Putin.
Well let's ignore Yeltisn
and the fact that Putin alloweed capital flow of 1 trillion out of Russia into USA banks
>>58708626
He started 3 wars, destroyed democracy, killed some opposition leaders and journalists, built autoritharian system, rule own country with bunch of jewish oligarchs etc. Also, he is a former KGB-officer and liar.
>>58713929
But Lithuania is an actual nation, Belgium is a freakish accident in which the hard-working Flemish are leeched off by lazy socialist Waloonians
>>58715368
Except we have Arrow 3 defence systems and 600 nukes with triad delivery system.
Your rockets are barely flying anymore.
https://youtu.be/azdttf8bz20
Bomb apartment buildings and invade chechneya.
Not that I like those fucks much either but that was clearly a setup to get him into office.
>>58708626
He's a Jewish oligarch communist, who worships the days of Bolshevism.
