>This Blacksmith is Tired of Hearing "Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams," so He's Settling the Argument Once and for All
http://cheezburger.com/76773121/video-jet-fuel-can-melt-steel-beams
You were wrong all along /pol/ why did you keep repeating lies to me making me look like a fool?
Well... I mean....even in that video he proved that jet fuel cannot, in fact, melt steel beams.
>>58588765
He just did it though.
>>58588814
jet fuel cant melt steel beams is a meme.
there is plenty of more evidence, starting from building 7
>>58588814
Well, he proved that it could make them easily bendable, thus affecting the structural integrity of the WTC.
He did not, however, prove that jet fuel could melt steel beams.
>>58588814
It didn't melt the steel beams though. It just made them more malleable.
>>58588986
Which means the jet fuel can't melt steal beams argument is retarded and is not valid.
>>58588814
No, they didn't melt, kid. He just weakened them.
>>58588931
>>58588986
that is melting you retards
>>58588683
You're kinda dumb for thinking that an airliner crashing into a building wouldn't compromise its structural integrity enough to collapse it anyway, bro.
And anyone who has ever re-ignited a fire by blowing on the coals knows that a fuel burns more readily when the surrounding gases have higher oxygen concentration, and it burns hotter, which is the primary principle of how a fireplace works.
I didn't even watch the video to have to explain to people how blacksmithing works. I've been saying this since the stupid meme started.
>Jet fuel can melt steel beams
>Leaving steel beams in a furnace is the same as burning them with JP8
Dumbass.
>>58589103
melt
melt/Submit
verb
1.
make or become liquefied by heat.
Did that look like a fucking liquid to you, shitposter? Because to me that looked like a malleable solid.
Yeah, let's trust some backyard blacksmith over tests done at Underwriter's Laboratories, the experts on fire damage, which showed that the beams would not be fatigued in the way claimed by the official story.
B T F O
Extra 300 degrees
Didn't melt
Small sample
Dissimilar environments
>>58588765
Amen brother. Amen.
>>58588931
the reason the meme even exist is the burn temp of jet fuel vs melting point of steel
every one knew the outcome before the vid was made. you can heat steel hot enough to bend with coal burning in a open fire and a billow but it wont melt
>>58588683
But how long was that rod in the furnace?
>>58589049
jetfuel does not burn retard
>>58588683
The pony said so.
>>58589306
Anon, I was making a joke. I understand that heating steel enough causes it to be more malleable.
Jet fuel can't melt steel beam.
>>58588683
Right, because one tiny little steel bar is the same as thousands of steel beams
>>58588683
>he thinks that temperature = heat
Christ what an ignorant fuck, that's why hes just a blacksmith.
>>58589103
That is not melting. This is pretty basic chemistry, let alone metallurgy. The colder a solid gets the more brittle it becomes, generally. This is something you should be encountering in your every day life. You might not have the vocabulary to explain this, but the inverse is true as well. The warmer a solid becomes, the more ductile it becomes.
Raising the temperature of anything by any amount makes it proportionally more ductile, while lowering it makes it proportionally more brittle. Try it out with chewing gum or something. Rapidly cool or heat it and you'll see what is happening to the steel on a smaller scale.
I'll repeat: that is not melting.
>>58589219
but what if, like, all liquids are just really really malleable solids
dude
weed
I'm sure the samples of Nano-Thermite found at Ground Zero, which burned more energetically than a sample of military grade nanothermite when tested, just happened there by accident.
>>58588683
"It's just 300 degrees hotter than jet fuel."
I find it interesting how the forging temperature of steel falls between jet fuel and the temperature of his furnace.
>>58589473
Beam fuel melt jet steel can't
>>58589056
But it does show that the jet fuel can't melt steam argument is not valid.
>>58588683
The only way we'll ever solve this is to build an exact replica andhave people in and out of it, working there for 30+ years with occasional maintenance. After all is said and done, we have a robot pilot the exact type of plane with the same amount of fuel into it. We'll need a few hundred volunteers to die here so we can have bodies burning and adding to the flames. If the tower collapses the same way it did on 9/11, then the theory is debunked and everyone but the volunteers can go home. If the tower somehow falls any other way, then the theory it was a controlled demolition prevails and the US has a shitload of explaining to do.
Until this experiment is made, both sides remain ignorant.
>>58589473
It can make them weak which in turn forces snaps due to pressure put against it. Stop being a retard.
>>58589900
It was a uniform downward crash that looked identical to a controlled demolition. The concrete was powderized as this happened. Nothing snapped or bent, it suddenly shattered and was spread outward in all directions.
>jet fuel cant melt steel beams
>everyone seems to forget the fact that a goddamn airplane flew into a building
Yeah, no way could a bunch of beams holding up the tallest buildings in all of new york survive that kind of damage.
>>58588683
Blacksmith..?
Inn 2015..?
Not sure I under stand correctly. Where does a blacksmith buy jet fuel anyway?
>>58588931
Well my whole definition of "melt" is fucking magma.
How was there molten steel at ground zero?
>take old known thing
>make shitty video of it
>WOW! STUNNING NEW KNOWLEDGE!
>front page of reddit, trillions of youtube views, /pol/ shitthreads all the time
Nobody fucking actually believes the argument this fatfuck tries to make fun of, it is and has always been a meme.
>>58590103
The source they cite in response to this is that it was claimed when the building was constructed that it could withstand a direct impact from the same kind of airliner.
So either Jews blew it up, or Jews sold them the building.
Which is more likely?
>>58590103
>The North Tower collapsed at 10:28 am, after burning for 102 minutes.
educate yourself, retard.
>>58590161
Photos of bars that the FFs sliced through with oxy torches
>>58589864
Great idea.
>Find a billioner who will build it
>muh jobs
>muh totalisator
>muh tv shows
>profit
>>58590161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JbnDXw-0pM
>>58590098
You are a fucking idiot lol
>>58590374
That's your argument?
>>58590113
Israel obviously
>>58590240
>These are your only options
No
Have you ever thought techs could be wrong? The levy in Katrina sure didn't hold.
>>58590254
So? Are you saying an airplane didn't smack straight into a building? Are you seriously saying that wouldn't have a significant impact on the structural integrity?
>>58590240
>mfw conspiracy tards actually fell for the oldest salesmen trick in the book
>This baby can withstand anything you throw at it, how about a anti rust coating and extended warranty ;) ;)
I choose they got jewed on the sale
>>58588683
>This Blacksmith is so he's settling
this is what 10,000 pounds of jet fuel looks like when it burns all at once ...
>what jet fuel would be left to burn beams?
>>58590511
I bet they got the undercoating :^)
>>58588683
>link to cheezburger
>that has a link to youtube
Stop shilling for that cancerous site faggot
>>58589220
underrated post, will thumbs up again.
>>58588683
>>58588814
>>58588931
>>58588986
>>58589103
>>58589219
What if, WHAT IF, that is NOT really a jet fuel. What if they use other fuel to melt it, and they just tell us it is a jet fuel.
What if all of this is in the plan of CIA/Mossad, the video, the cheezeburger article, to make it viral so there's no more digging and stop the issue?
>>58590467
>So? Are you saying an airplane didn't smack straight into a building? Are you seriously saying that wouldn't have a significant impact on the structural integrity?
The impact did not knock down the buildings.
An object that is impacted by something does not an hour and 42 minutes later. There has to be another force to knock it down.
>>58590467
>Have you ever thought techs could be wrong?
Of course, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for their claims.
If I purchase a vehicle from you and you have paperwork saying that a vehicle is in tip-top shape to drive on the roads, and on the trip home the transmission drops on the pavement, I can hold you responsible.
>>58590551
Thank god an anon on pol just presented proof that all of the fule was instantly exploded. Good thing the video just showed that steel will loose almost all its structural integrity from sitting in a hot pile of coals for a few minutes, making the matter of the amount of fule irrelevant anyway, but emphasizing the importance of the quantity of burning materials
>>58590551
imbecile!
>>58590572
Undercoating is very useful in locales that use road salt to melt ice.
Road salt can melt steel frames.
>>58589556
And that's why you can't hop over a border right?
>>58590818
>Furnace
>hot pile of coals
Pick 1 mossad spic
>>58590783
>he forgot about the force of gravity
It's a constant force applied to a structure that was gradually losing strength. Is that so hard to understand? When the weight above the fire could no longer be supported by the red hot beams that were not cleared by the initial impact, it all can down.
>>58590836
it doesn't melt it oxidizes, if you ever lived near the sea and had a bike you'd see that the sea air will make it rust much faster than inlands
So now heat up a W36x230 and bend it.
>>58590551
what a miracle that all of the fire from the jet fuel happened outside of the buildings
>>58589662
Not only that, every single floor of the WTCs weren't being blasted by a furnace. To fall with little to no resistance nearing the lower floors that had no structural damage that were meant to resist falling is insane.
>>58589219
Is mercury a liquid or a solid?
>>58590783
Ok so according to Conspiritards planes have no impact on buildings or their integrity at all. A massive jet which slammed into the side of a building was just lolnothing for that building.
>>58590787
>Of course, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for their claims.
Ok, but don't act like it's some grand conspiracy caused by the illuminati and reptiles.
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>>58591210
Mercury is an element. It's state depends on the temperature and pressure of it's environment.
>>58591024
I was making a joke in line with the thread.
Good job missing it though.
>>58591238
>Ok, but don't act like it's some grand conspiracy caused by the illuminati and reptiles.
All I was doing was remarking on Jewish min-maxed Mercantile Skill.
Nearly all the jet fuel burnt up during the initial explosion though.
>>58590103
It was constructed with airplane crash in mind. Designed to take a direct hit, you know, the exact thing that happened on that fateful day.
So it was designed and constructed to withstand what happened. This alone raises several questions. However, it is all pointless to spend time on, as building 7 is the smoking gun that no one can hide and it has been all along.
Building 7. I'll just repeat that once more:
Building 7!!
Got it? No?
Building 7
Are you people aware Al-Qaeda took full responsibility?
Now why would they do that?
Most of conspiracy theories can be disputed with simple logic.
>Americans never landed on Moon
...and Soviets wouldn't expose that?
They would fake it 5 more times?
Believing such idiotic conspiracy theories is sure sign of being an idiot.
>>58591081
Well you would have to scale up the force applied. I think the top of a sky scraper ought to do it.
>>58591437
>get btfo on the two towers
>B-BUT BUILDING 7 GUIZE
Yeah there were also controlled explosions seen and if you look closely into the smoke you can see the most damning evidence :^)
>>58591393
>burnt up
That's impossible.
>>58591499
Lol.
So what if they took full responsibility? Have you not considered that maybe al Qaeda is a scapegoat?
>>58591206
>the lower floors that had no structural damage that were meant to resist falling is insane.
>the lower floors that were meant to resist falling
>a building is built in order to resist falling
>therefore it can never fall
They got structural damage from the top half of the building falling on them, you fucking retard.
>>58591437
Massive fires?
A huge slump seen on one side?( the one never shown by tards
>>58591735
>scapegoat
Word you meant to use is ''puppet''.
And yes I considered it, but it's not likely. In fact, it's almost impossible.
>>58590161
>How was there molten steel at ground zero?
there wasn't
>>58591437
Cars are designed to withstand head on collisions. And yet somehow in this world a few of them still break down after a head on collision.
Between the people who think only aliens are capable of building pyramids and people who think humans have magical powers over the laws of physics, I can't figure out who is dumber.
>building 7
You're a cuck who would believe Santa is real if someone on YouTube said it was a secret
>>58588683
This video proves nothing
>Doesn't actually melt it
>Didn't use jet fuel
>Not the same amount of metal inside of the building
>Not the same metal
>not the same amount of heat in that area at that time
The only way you'll ever know the truth if you purposely crash another jet into the a building like the WTC
>>58591861
>radical Islam is just the USA :^) ignore that they are trying to murder as many of as possible
>good goy it was all the evil gubment
>let all those muzzies in :)
>Where are images of the plane hitting the Pentagon?
You'd think a building with some of the most CCTV cameras on the planet would have a clear video shot of it... Just sayin'
>mfw when Building 7 did a complete demolition free-fall
>>58591437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqVIc0cJmQ
>it was just a few small office fires
How come his 'furnace' doesn't melt?
It's made from the same steel as his gay little bars.
Pic related I made myself from a Butane bottle. It will burn jet fuel forever & a day without meaningful damage.
How come he point-loaded the second bar, pushing it sideways. But gripped & lifted the first causing it to twist out of its seat?
How come he's clean, & his workshop is a fucking mess of cardboard, plastic containers & homosexual overtones?
Why does he think pretending knowledge on the internet will make him seem cool? He's a fat retard & his allegory is fucking stupid.
Structural steel works best in tension. Hot or cold.
>>58589666
dem trips....
>>58591861
>scapegoat
scapegoat
ˈskeJpɡəʊt/
noun
1.
a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.
No, I meant to use the word scapegoat.
>>58591938
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=molten+steel+at+ground+zero+pictures
literally 2 seconds.
Also wanted to throw in
Nothing is more blue pilled than this conspiracy. You're basically saying muslims dindonuffin
>>58590551
If all 10,000 lbs of jet fuel burned instantaneously on impact it would've leveled all of lower Manhattan. That's an absurd amount of energy being released all at once. On par with nuclear detonation.
But that didn't happen because jet fuel doesn't work like that you fucking retard.
>>58589103
Its actually super heating the metal which all industrial steel is required to be able to handle under a maximal load value in order to ensure safety and integrity of the structure in event of potential vulnerability due to fire, explosion or other damage.
Buildings are literally built with steel that is made to be able to withstand being super heated while under a maximal load.
>>58592170
hey look it's hot steel, but i'm not seeing these pools of magma you're talking about. surely you must mean some other picture.
>>58592190
>On par with nuclear detonation.
are you fucking retarded it would be less than 1/3200 of the hiroshima bomb's yield. most of the jet fuel did burn simultaneously
>>58588683
There you go
>>58592170
>the only metal in a building is structural steel
>if you see any molten metal, it must be steel
t. you
>>58588683
He admits that his furnace is 300 degrees hotter than the jet fuel burning temperature. It can be a hell of a difference.
>>58592158
I have to hand it to you, that's some bad ass metal work.
>>58592586
Big difference between the weight of his pinky finger and that of an entire building.
>>58592338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE Molten metal pouring out of building.
>>58592452
b-but the building lasted way longer than that and they found thermite on ground zero not to mention that was an increase in temp not a spike like the initial explosion was
>>58592634
I know nothing about the materials, but the strength plotted against temperature plot could be not linear. IDK, it may be.
>>58588683
tfw i know this guy
i cant believe this is going viral.
>>58592607
This t︂b︂︂h f︂︂a︂m s︂︂m︂h
>>58592733
this is indisputable evidence
all metal in a building is structural steel
the pipes, the wiring, the frames of the doors, even the screws in the desk
all structural steel
so if you see any molten metal, it must be melted structural steel
>>58592787
>they found thermite on ground zero
Thermite is literally rust and aluminum.
You know that right?
>>58588683
Jet fuel can't melt dank memes.
>>58593065
how to make rust from a burning plane and aluminum powder from an explosion ? oh and the building was new so doubt there was rust present
Jet fuel may not melt steel into a puddle, but it obviously can weaken it enough to collapse a building, which is the point here. Thread over, 9/11 conspiracy theorists confirmed for being literally fucking retarded.
>>58592960
https://youtu.be/Xy_jMrJGF9M?t=2m11s
>Steel and concrete
:)
>>58592607
Cheers mate.
Not so badass that I can find anyone to buy the fucking thing.
Seems they're good for a summer market only. They were going for £250+ in July, but I had no bids at £100 this September.
the tight cunts
>The rough edges make character
The steel doesn't have to melt.
Steel isn't just steel. There are countless kinds of steel alloys, and on top of that there are various heat treatments we use on steel that make a massive difference.
Here is something you can do at home. Go buy a box of nails, a hammer, and a blowtorch. Your goal is to turn a nail into a chisel by pounding the sharp end into a chisel head using the hammer.
Try pounding the nail into shape. Guess what will happen, absolutely fucking nothing. The nail won't budge or change it's shape. Why? Because the steel used to create the nail was heat treated as it was formed so its molecules line up more uniformly, thus giving it superior hardness once it cools. This is why you can't shape the nail with your hammer.
Now take your blowtorch and heat the nail up until it has a glassy orange glow. Once you've done that, quickly quench the nail in water and once its cold, try to form it again with your hammer. Guess what happens? It forms under your hammer blows. Now try to use it, and watch it snap against a hard surface.
>B-b-but its the same steel! How could it have snapped when it didn't snap before?
Because you heated the metal back up. By heating the steel, you caused its molecules to shift out of their rigid structure and by quickly cooling it you made them settle in a weaker, natural formation. You robbed the nail of its heat treatment and thus made able to be formed.... and very weak. This is known as annealing.
Jet fuel does not burn hot enough in open air to melt steel (although inside a jet engine, it does. But thats not the point.) but it DOES burn hot enough to anneal the steel. Once annealed, the main steel supports of the towers might as well have not even been there. The steel does not have to melt for it to fail, retards.
Although I must say, I find Building 7 to be very suspicious.
911thology.com/nexus1.html
>All skyscrapers have their lowest foundations approximately 20-30 meters beneath the surface of the Earth. So therefore it is easy to calculate the position under the skyscraper where you would need to position the "zero-box”. This is the precise location from where it will expand its upper cavity which is in the direction of the lowest subbasement of the building.
>For example, in the case of the Twin Towers, their lowest underground foundation was 27 meters beneath surface. A 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear demolition charge was positioned at a depth of 77 meters below surface (or 50 meters below the underground foundation). A thermo-nuclear explosion at a depth of 77 m would create an extremely overheated cavity whose upper sphere would expand to the lowest underground foundations of the tower it intended to demolish. However, it would still be short of reaching the surface of the Earth by 27 meters - so the surrounding structures would not to be affected by the destructive factors of the underground nuclear explosion, with the possible exception of radioactive contamination. The Tower being demolished then loses its foundations completely and is sucked into the overheated cavity whose internal temperatures are hot enough to melt the entire Tower. The nuclear demolition schema of WTC building # 7 and that of the Sears Tower in Chicago were calculated in the exact same way.
>However, there is one additional factor that needs to be taken into consideration during the calculation of the nuclear demolition of any skyscraper. This is the actual vaporized granite rock inside the cavity. How is all that former granite rock, which now exists in a gaseous state, supposed to escape from the cavity? In fact, a picture of the physical events after an underground nuclear explosion is quite interesting. Let's consider it.
>>58593361
>9/11 conspiracy theorists confirmed for being literally fucking retarded
No, actually.
The only point is "debunked" here is that jet fuel can't melt steel beams. It has nothing to do with was the whole thing planned by the CIA, was there explosives (just to be sure it goes down) etc.
>>58593352
>living in a dry climate
As someone from Florida if you leave anything out for 5 days that shit is getting ruined
>>58593065
Umm....no. See >>58589713
>>58593352
>How do I make aluminum powder from a building containing considerable amounts of aluminum and two aircraft made almost entirely out of aluminum
>How does rust form on ferrous structures that are literally less than five miles from the ocean and all of its high sodium content?
Rust can form on ferrous structures in less than a week, sooner considering the proximity to ocean air.
>>58588683
>cheezburger network
Fucking kill yourself.
>>58588683
>300 degrees hotter
>didn't melt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
In 1993 the first 6 floors got destroyed by an exploding van.
The building didn't even shake.
>first 6 floors.
>>58593581
i know that's
true from your stand point but this is within the building itself, what is the water gonna instantly oxidize the heated metal into rust (looks up anyway just to be sure)
>>58593716
(looking up also)
still thermite is on the table and i guess i lost since it would be hard to prove even if both of your posts where within 100% possibility of happing from that exact situation, even if both cases wherent possible it would still be hard to prove wether it was from the enviroment or the situation(checking all sources though)
>>58593599
>no source
Um........ liek...... ok...... omugawd......
You type like a faggot.
>>58588683
its a meme
>>58593971
And a successful one at that.
>>58588683
There's already a video that counters this guy's points
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYPhXA2zHCU
>>58588683
>300 degrees hotter than jet fuel
>didn't melt
That's exactly what we were saying. Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, it may weaken the structural integrity of the steel, but the problem is that there WAS molten steel.
>>58588683
>>58588683
All my evidence suggests that if a plane hit the towers then they would have been knocked over. It was definitely a missle
All the 9/11 Conspiracy theorists BTFO.
also that guy is based he needs to run for office.
>muh planes
>>58593352
Oxy fuel cutting speeds up the oxidation process (literally turns steel into rust/slag instantly)
I'm a welder so I know a few things about steel
I think the jews were involved desu, but the idea they HAD to use thermite is fucking retarded
HE MISSED THE POINT! WHERE IS THE PART THAT SHOWS US HOW HE IS USING JETFUEL TO MELT STEALBEAMS?
now mr Blackssmith should show us how to make his STEELstick glowing using jJETFUEL in an UNCONTROLED setting WITHOUT adding EXTRA OXIGEN...
He also missed the Part where an underground Bomb destroyed the Foundation of the Towers.
>>58588814
he heated it HOTTER than jetfuel would and it still didn't melt LOL
>>58594396
I've been staring at this image since you posted it and I still don't understand it
>>58591675
From a mechanical and civil engineering standpoint, 9/11 was a very significant event and one that has changed tall-tower structural architecture incredibly, and in tall towers like the Twins (which were incredibly tall), there was a shift from distributed columns in a single tower, to several cores around each other, as can be seen in the Burj Khalifa.
>WTC Twins
Impact would have collapsed several support columns, but due to the structure of the WTC Twin towers, it wouldn't have caused an imminent collapse.
>The towers should've survived a fire!
A standard office fire, spread evenly across a floor with only very slow spread to the other floors, and quickly attended to by the fire department, was only expected to leave the twin towers around an hour to evacuate the whole building before a collapse. It is a testament to the engineering of the building that it lasted as long as it did under the conditions it was under.
>BUT HOW
The crash of the planes into the towers distributed a large volume of jet fuel incredibly un-evenly over several floors.
This would mean that the intensity of the fire, and the temperature and heat output of the fire, would differentiate severely over very short distances, resulting in yield level stress (meaning permanent deformation of the metal) in the structural members and more importantly, the floor joists, which in the WTC Twins simply sat upon brackets on the structural columns.
Continuing deformation would end the contact between the floors, which held most of the tower's load, and cause them to fall upon the lower floors. The shock load would lead to those fire affected floors to break out of contact with their own brackets and continue falling. The total load would increase as more floors collected, until they hit the unaffected floors, which wouldn't be able to handle the load of the 17 fire affected floors, even without a shock load. This leads to complete collapse, as the structural members get dragged down too.
>>58593528
most retards don't know they are retarded
Thr argument of "jet fuel cant melt steel beams" comes from structural parts of the twin towers completely melted down in the rubble
>>58594654
>But why does it topple?
That would require a horizontal force in the first place to produce that turning moment, and for the only place to suffer structurally compromising yield to be at the very base. With a structure where 95+% of the volume is air-space, there is nothing that causes sideways movement, and no reason for anything other than a near-freefall.
>But WTC 7
WTC7 and the Twins were constructed significantly differently. The Twins were a multi-column steel only, while WTC7 was a steel-reinforced concrete tower, largely ignored by the fire department, with a history of a faulty sprinkler system, and it is known that it was hit by debris. The reason that people don't know about it is because WTC 7 is very small compared to the Twins, which are everything that people associate with the WTC.
>So what happened? Who dun it?
Just as with the assault on the USS Liberty and so many others, the 9/11 attacks were an Israeli false flag, hence the many reports of middle easterners, who turned out to be Israelis, CHEERING at the attack. Demolition conspiracies are a created conspiracy made for the sole purpose of painting disbelievers as tinfoil crazies and "Truthers"
>>58593926
Here you go, you ignorant cuck:
"Nanothermite Residue: What was that? A report by several scientists, including chemist Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen, showed that the WTC dust
contained unreacted nanothermite, which – unlike ordinary thermite, which is an incendiary – is a high explosive. This report by Harrit and his colleagues, who included
Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, did not appear until 2009, [26] several months after the publication of NIST’s final report in November 2008."
26. Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, and Bradley R. Larsen, “Active Thermitic
Material Observed in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009/2: 7-31
>>58594654
In free fall?
>not this discussion again.
>>58588683
>doesnt use jet fuel
>uses a furnace
>uses a 1/2 inch rod instead of a structural I beam
he didnt prove shit
>>58594654
You see, the acceleration of gravity on earth is at 9.8 m/s. That means if you drop an item from 100 meters up, it will travel towards the ground at 29.4 meters per second after 3 seconds and 58.8 m/s after 6 seconds. The object will accelerate until it reaches terminal velocity which is the point where air resistance cancels out additional acceleration.
What this implies is that if there is ANY resistance, such as for example, when a steel beam "noodles", the acceleration CANNOT be 9.8 m/s. Especially with an entire building collapsing and "pancaking" in on itself, it would encounter the floors it is collapsing in on and therefore slow down, right? When the man in the OP is bending the heated steel, there is still resistance. You can imagine an entire building full of steel pillars, furniture, concrete and reinforced concrete would generate a fair amount of resistance.
Now look at the footage of the WTC buildings.
Let's not even get started on how the airplanes supposedly traveled much faster than physically possible, only one plane was supposedly ever spotted by the onlookers and how a building that was never hit collapsed. Or how only the people in the Pentagon involved in investigating a 2.3 trillion embezzlement case from government funds by corrupt officials in the Pentagon died together with all the evidence of said case.
The best one is how they somehow found an intact passport of the guy who flew one of the planes a few blocks away from the twin towers.
>>58594597
The alu wing cuts 17 fucking inches of high quality steel by subsonic speed
Armor piersing shell uses heavy mettals at supersonic
>>58593485
long as post and you don't understand the meme.
there was literally liquid metal seen at the site. structural integrity of steel at whatever temperature is not the issue.
>>58589200
>JP8
Aircraft maintainer detected
>>58593467
Karma punishing you for making a cuck wars propaganda material
>>58594799
>nanothermite
>something that hasnt been developed yet
You may as well have just said plasma cannon
>>58594396
Mohs scale of mineral hardness
2.5–3 gold, silver, aluminium, zinc
.....
4–4.5 steel
.....
7.5–8 emerald, hardened steel, tungsten,
I must admit, the part of the story where 3mm of folded sheet Aluminium sliced through 50mm+ thick H & box sections was the funniest.
Even the wing tips chopped dat twin tower to pieces.
>>58589219
Is pure lead liquid or solid?
Because the answer, in room temperature, is liquid
I'll say it again:
>300 degrees hotter
>didn't melt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
In 1993 the first 6 floors got destroyed by an exploding van.
The building didn't even shake.
>first 6 floors.
>>58589158
How many planes crashed into wtc7 again?
>>58595178
>jet fuel won't melt steel beams
>but controlled demolitions explosives that last for a fraction of a second will
>>58595333
Who knew you could take photomicrographs of something that doesn't exist?
>>58588683
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>>58595800
Who said it didnt exist? I said "developed" we can create antimatter but it doesnt mean we've developed antimatter bombs does it?
>>58588683
Why did it fall in freefall then?
>>58595767
do you feel proud of this post? made a strong point, do you think?
i never said anything about explosions. good job defeating that strawman though.
>>58595767
The toothfairy did it, with the help of Michael Jackson.
>>58595413
Materials that are harder tend to undergo fast fracture easier when you apply stresses greater than the failurr stress of the material.
In this case, a wing "slicing" is avtually a crack forming and then enough stress being applied to the beam to make the crack extend through the material.
Now that's not the full story of how materials can fail but it's one possibility.
As for the whole jet fuel heat issue, as long as the heat is high enough as a proportion of the melting point of a material you can get fatigue occurring as the material work hardens and anneals at the same time until it reaches a failure threshold.
>>58595413
Hello there
>>58595294
I embraced it sir. My ex was star wars mad so I mostly made it to piss her off.
Also, Lord Buddha can continue to kiss my ass. I will never accept it. What ever it is.
http://www.burnedbydesign.com/4/vader-burners.html
>>58589219
So you even know what a liquid is?
Protip: glass is actually liquid. If you doubt this, a quick google search shall show you
>>58595919
I'd say the samples found at WTC are pretty good evidence of deployment. Shit's not antimatter, but nevertheless rather more exotic than the thermite used in applications like continuously welded railroad track.
>>58592158
Why do you pretend the same? Your stove isn't under any significant loading whereas the support beams for the wtc were supporting a building and had just had a very heavy plane smash into the side of the building.
>>58588683
I don't think that video says much really. The 'get a job' remark at the end is very shill like also.
Here is arare 9/11 video that shows the temperatures reached in the WTC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRexj74WoeY
How did people come to buy into this bullshit anyways?
>>58589900
that isn't melting you sack of shit.
melting is turning from solid to liquid. just because steel turns malleable at high temperatures doesn't mean it is melting when it is malleable.
>>58594841
>>58594978
Near free-fall, as in close enough.
First off, please stop with the pedantry and technical definitions of freefall under acceleration of g.
Second, what you define as "resistance" is what you are taking as an arbitrary quality of you can perceive and discern from footage, rather than the quantity of the building's actual acceleration, and throwing up a copy-pasta in response to a single word, rather than your actual understanding of what I said, or any understanding of metal deformation under shear stress and shock loads.
The "Resistance" as you would call it, on the movement of the fire-affected floors, is minimal because the brackets on the steel pillars, the only things holding the floors in place, have deformed so much that the entire floor falls. As a SECTION, the "resistance" is somewhat high, because of the slow movement and thus kinetic energy of the moving mass and the fire affected SECTIONS accelerate at a much slower rate that picks up over time.
The "Resistance" that you believe would be encountered is near irrelevant by the time the sections would hit the non-affected portion of the tower, and the shock load of 17 floors upon another, as that combined mass, falling through what is 95% air-space, continues near practically unabated.
You are overestimating to an unsurmountable degree the effect that irrelevant things, such as furniture (somehow assumed to have a structural property) and concrete (found solely at the bottom levels of a WTC Twins style tower) on movement of an agglomerated mass, while ignoring how significantly easily steel brackets, already near yield after nearly two hours of heat, can be deformed, just by equating a modern skyscraper hit by a plane with a steel beam being heat treated by a blacksmith.
>The rest
Tinfoil supreme, no wonder the Israelis can get away with it so easily
>>58595413
>Mohs Hardness
>Not Young's Modulus
>Implying that the outer curtain wall of the Twins was a structural element
>>58596101
If the planes would be wooden on 911 what would we see?
>>58596330
>I'd say the samples found at WTC
Which was actually found to be bullshit and they were asked to prove their claims years ago, yet we hear nothing since.
>>58596662
I'll post it again cos you're too thick to understand simple rules of physics.
You see, the acceleration of gravity on earth is at 9.8 m/s. That means if you drop an item from 100 meters up, it will travel towards the ground at 29.4 meters per second after 3 seconds and 58.8 m/s after 6 seconds. The object will accelerate until it reaches terminal velocity which is the point where air resistance cancels out additional acceleration.
What this implies is that if there is ANY resistance, such as for example, when a steel beam "noodles", the acceleration CANNOT be 9.8 m/s. Especially with an entire building collapsing and "pancaking" in on itself, it would encounter the floors it is collapsing in on and therefore slow down, right? When the man in the OP is bending the heated steel, there is still resistance. You can imagine an entire building full of steel pillars, furniture, concrete and reinforced concrete would generate a fair amount of resistance.
Now look at the footage of the WTC buildings.
Let it sink in. Like a distilled, you shouldn't rush it.
>>58588683
Only idiots believe jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
>>58596923
It would in fact come to a complete stop.
>>58597039
Only steel beams believe idiots can't melt jet fuel
>>58594978
Screen cap this, Newfags
And I'm sure that explains the buildings collapsing at freefall speeds in their own footprint.
And I bet he could explain how micro-thermite can be natually occuring in old buildings.
I bet this walking anus thinks the holocaust happened too. What a rube. What a buffoon.
>>58597097
Yeah just like every other collapsing building in the entire world... oh wait
>>58597138
What? Jet fuel doesn't meltses it burnses.
Freaken' ordinary car fuel can melt steel beams, let alone jet fuel.
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>>58597097
>>58596923
>Unable to understand simple rules of physics
>Said to an engineer in response to an engineer's analysis of what occurred
Are you an australian on holiday or?
>>58596101
>Now that's not the full story of how materials can fail but it's one possibility
The planes would have pancaked. Left a huge dent & broke several columns for sure. The main mass of the plane- minus engines possibly. would have lost all its momentum before penetrating the building fully. Then simply fallen to the street below.
The masses of redundancy built into the towers were absent on the day. I reckon Ayy lmao tech personally, but that's another argument.
>>58596177
Gut morgen bruder
>>58596422
>whereas the support beams for the wtc were supporting a building and had just had a very heavy plane smash into the side of the building
At which point after a hour or so all the remaining sides completely gave up all pretense of mechanical connection & turned to dust while falling freely to the ground.
If the towers had collapsed 'properly' then the upper half would have sheared off & tipped over to the side or something. Collapse into footprint x2? gimme a break.
>>58597255
Welp, seems like you can't melt jet fuel, you must be an idiot or a steel beam if you believe idiots can't do it.
>>58597398
funny how 9/11 threads always have several resident structural engineers.
>>58588683
Jet fuel can melt steel beams.
WTC 7 collapse symmetrically from sporadic fires
JFK killed by stray bullets from miles away
JUST BLUE PILL THE SHIT OUT OF US SENPAI
>>58596248
>Protip: glass is actually liquid.
Proptip: No it's not. Don't parrot everything you hear in your 4th grade science class
>>58588683
I didn't see any molten steal in that video. The argument was never, that the structure of the building couldn't have been weakened by the hot fires in the building.
So the question might be, has there been molten steel like some eye witnesses said or hasn't there been? If there has been molten steel the question still remains, how did it melt?
Maybe kinetic energy can melt steel, I seriously don't know and don't really care but it's still true that:
>Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams
and the dude in the video is clearly a fucking idiot who doesn't even know state of matter.
There isn't just structural resistance which in itself is enough to stop a collapse but also inertial resistance. Even a body of mass at rest in a perfect vacuum at zero gravity will put up resistance. Let's say a 100 KG mass is moving at 9.8/ms towards another 100KG mass that is stationary, at that moment when the masses collide and combine the velocity will be immediately reduced to 4.9 m/s. In other words even without structural resistance just the inertial resistance will cut down on velocity.
Yet we saw everything turn to powder and then fall down in pile of dust.
>>58596795
Whatever faggot. We'll have a fight right now I get a Steel bar & hard hat you get an Aluminium one.
You can get your little sister to show you how to swing it if you want I heard she has talent.
>>58589158
Considering the towers were specifically designed to withstand a plane crashing in to them, I find it odd that a plane crashing in to them would compromise the structural integrity.
>>58590942
shush Ahmed, you should be praying right now
9/11 conspiracy theories are so dumb.
>>58597565
Can confirm.
I learnt Isambard Kingdom Brunel the crack back in the 1820's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt1oTYhcgo
>>58597921
Because the core was, probably, partly pulverized by the presure made by thermo-nuke and sank into hot cavity where it melted.
>>58588683
Another sponsored Propaganda.
Some people just want to believe in demonstrations etc.
He admitted the metal he put hot in anvil was 300 deg hotter then burning temp of jet fuel.
Let me show you Carbon Steel Graph Pic related.
This shows difference between steel temperatures when it change states according to amount of carbon in structure.
More Carbon in steel then steel becoming more bridal harder but it melting faster. almost pure Fe witch is used to do construction melting at 1500*C aprox 2800*F.
If steel was hotter about 300 deg more ten burning temp of kerosene witch is on free air 1030*C when you add that extra 300 deg you will get 1330*C where the steel he shown was about 2% carbonated then the steel parameters was in Ledeburit or over, then steel losing it's structural strength.
200 deg less and Anvil will go up as previous demonstration. He proves nothing.
There is bigger problem to explain Structure as Metal Frame has another aspect not taken to consideration, is interlocked and supporting concrete or is in concrete, this giving a different heat absorbing pattern, temperature is sink in places where is colder.
To weaken steel in this way you need a high temp on large area not in one point, because cold air lack of oxygen etc will dramatically drop combustion temp, effect of low oxygen burning is black smoke when not all products can be burned, we have alot of it ant both WTC buildings.
That's not any argument but just take amout of fule delivered by those planes count 10 % - 20 % left in building afted impact rest was just burned in huge fireball. calculate amout of energy this fuel can deliver, then take 4 floors and amount of steel and calculate how much energy is needed to put steel over austenite point.?
lets say there was 50 tons of steel over 4 flors.
I will make it easier and say to melt 1 ton of steel you need 550 KW/h
>>58588683
>http://cheezburger.com/76773121/video-jet-fuel-can-melt-steel-beams
BTFO
BTFO
BTFO
BTFO
>>58598189
You're dumb if you believe the 9/11 commission report. Pancake.
>>58588683
I remember making this argument 10+ years ago actually. You don't need to fucking *MELT* steel for godsake to reduce its structural integrity and load bearing capabilities. And when you consider how well steel CONDUCTS heat and the fact these fires burnt unrestrained for hours on end at 1000 foot above the skyline in the wind you can see how the heat would have been very intense and how it would spread up and down the steel columns to weaken the structure. Get over it, it collapsed under its own weight due to a raging fucking inferno.
I don't think it's possible for a truther to just drop their ideology and move on. They're committed. People like this just keep twisting reality and getting deeper and deeper into conspiracy.
These people are like Christians confronted with evidence that the Earth is billions of years old, that dinosaurs really existed, and that there are creatures on the planet which demonstrate the concept of evolution. Christians easily dismiss it as the devil talking, or that God left these things here himself when he created the planet.
Retards will always be retardin'.
If fire can't melt steel, they why were the steel columns originally protected against fire with asbestos and then later with Cafco Blazeshield?
Anyone who thinks those buildings were brought down by anything other than the two planes we all saw hit them is a complete braindead idiot.
>>58598420
The core itself was made with steel. Imagine a large truck's radiator. If you take a blowtorch and heat up the top 1/10th portion of the radiator until it "melts" and then take a hammer and pound down vertically you won't see any sudden "collapse" of the entire radiator. What you may see is a progressive crimpening here and there because the bottom 9/10ths of the radiator are perfectly OK.
Steel reinforced buildings have their steel holding up the structure in a similar manner, giving both tensile strenght as well as a certain elasticity to guard against earthquakes and internal building collapses. Where was the elasticity in those buildings from the steel? Nowhere to be seen. The closer you look at this the more ludicrous it seems. This is why every now and then you have people like this blacksmith spewing nonsense to try and sway people.
>>58597267
Tfw jetfuel (jeta1) is litterally diesel with an airworthinesslabel.
>>58597858
>"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
>"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
You also have to remember that there's plenty of shit inside a giant office building that can catch on fire.
What of the other structures that caught fire and were hit by ballistic missiles in the Balkans?
>REMINDER THAT THE "JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS" IS DISINFO BY THE GOV. TO DISTRACT FROM THE MORE INCRIMINATING FACTS ABOUT 9/11 LIKE THE SAUDI INVOLVMENT AND THE MANY IGNORED WARNINGS AND THE FACT THAT CHEYNE PROFITED IMMENSELY AFTER THE ATTACKS!
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0408/S00221.htm
>>58599229
Judy Wood.
Why doesn't anyone post/quote her? She's qualified, not mental & has gathered all the pertinent evidence & packaged it into a fascinating lecture freely available on jewtube.
>here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg
>It's tinfoil to the fuckn max.
Mfw you shouldn't put tinfoil in the microwave
>>58595598
That was underground parking when they park a van with 3 tons of potassium nitrate, Detonated it but it had no effect on building because it didn't manage to destroy any core columns just floors was damaged. that's why after renovation some floors was strengthen and didn't collapse. ruble failing down they was just cover with all ruble
>>58599418
"You also have to remember that there's plenty of shit inside a giant office building that can catch on fire."
- Plus the chimney effect of the wind blowing through broken windows and hot air rising, which would create a simple blast furnace, raising the temperatures much higher than jet fuel burning in an open pit.
>>58599420
You mean this?
>On April 21, 1999 NATO air strikes hit the building, setting the upper floors on fire, and few days later NATO repeated the attack. Several Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired at the building.[5] Despite the heavy damage, the building did not collapse and remained structurally intact. There were no reported deaths or injuries in the attack as the building was unoccupied at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U%C5%A1%C4%87e_Tower
>>58591835
You dont know how fires work apparently.
>>58591951
Cars are not made to withstand head on collusions, are you fucking mad?. It is quite the contrary, they are designed to crumble completely so they absorb as much force as possible during the crash.
You should not talk about what you know nothing of.
>>58592111
Fires dont level large buildings like that. Sorry you misunderstand. It is not hard to investigate these issues. Try it.
>>58599772
Probably because she spews all this BS about DEWs and she cannot back her claim up with actual physical evidence?
She showed some video of a piece of steel being warped by DE but I have yet to see a real demo of that tech. The video was probably fraudulent.
The 9/11 commission Report was the pure truth.
>>58589103
I'm not even a "truther" but no, that is not melting. And it does not explain the molten steel present on ground zero
>>58600165
There you go, throwing the baby out with the bath water. It's bizarre.
There's 2 hours of forensic evidence, 10 minutes of theoretical Tesla 2.0
I still think she's worth listening to, her perspective is valuable since everyone goes full retard one way or the other anyway.
Here's a new radio show of her likely whining a lot, from this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji24VJaFIfo
Have you seen the levitating frog hanging between magnets?
Enough of this foolishness. It was clearly those sneaky fuckin kikes.
GTKRWN
>>58600760
/thread
Everything will be good, goyim.
>>58601595
>10 minutes of theoretical Tesla 2.0
Which is all someone needs to completely discredit her as just another loony. Her entire premise is "zeta radiation can melt steel beams".
>>58601650
Have you actually bought the 9/11 commission report and read it thoroughly all the way through, if not how can you critique it?
>>58596866
[citation needed]
>>58603281
Book is based.
>>58588931
>>58588683
>>58588814
>>58588765
>structural steel is the same as all types of steel
>But the fire was at the top of the building! How did any of it below the fire collapse?
BECAUSE STEEL CONDUCTS HEAT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
You heat a steel beam up on one end, after a while the other end is going to start to get hot too. Keep in mind that these fires were burning for hours before the building collapsed.
So now the bottom of the support columns are heated up. Not enough to melt them. But enough that they're going to weaken. And then they have thousands of pounds of concrete coming crashing down on them.
Plus the fact that the entirety of the support beams are becoming warped with heat, the concrete around them is cracking, and they're supporting a 2000 foot skyscraper. How the fuck can it be a surprise to anyone that they collapsed?
>But there are other skyscrapers that have caught on fire and they didn't collapse!
Yeah, those skyscrapers didn't have a fucking jumbo jet crash into them at 500mph, did they? Plus, jet fuel, while not hot enough to melt steel beams, burns a hell of a lot hotter than building materials.
Just end this meme already. You're wrong.
>>58604386
He says structural steel in video.
>>58604386
He clearly pointed out that he was using structural steel in that video. Like he spent a full minute enunciating that fact.
Clearly you didn't watch the video.
>>58604810
If steel is such a problem when conducting heat why don't they build buildings where the structure is made of reinforced rubber that way the heat does not conduct.
>>58589220
>>58589220
>ests done at Underwriter's Laboratories, the experts on fire damage, which showed that the beams would not be fatigued in the way claimed by the official story.
[Citation Needed]
>>58589200
>mfw I was in the AF and my job was petroleum oil and lubricants
>literally POL
>I now browse /pol/
>>58604966
You're joking, right?
>>58592162
Dat flag
He invalidates the argument by heating the beam over 300 degrees hotter than jet fuel burns.
Sorry, but this guy is a fag.
>>58605232
Rubber doesn't conduct heat though so it would stop a building from collapsing straight down and a building would just lose a floor or two from jet fuel because the heat would not conduct. That's why the rubber handle on pans never gets hot. You just reinforce the rubber so it can hold tall buildings up.
>>58588683
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>>58588683
>it literally didn't melt
"Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams" is a forced meme to discredit those that question the official story.
Hell, I know from experience that burning pallets can make structural steel 2" solid bars sag.
Just like the flat earth and many other ridiculous conspiracy theories designed to make people with questions look nutty.
>>58603090
>Her entire premise is "zeta radiation can melt steel beams".
lolwut
can you elaborate please
>>58596009
Well just curious... what do you think did bring it down then?
>>58605837
But it bent proving his point that jet fool can't melt steel is irrelevant to thre discussion.
>>58592301
>Its actually super heating the metal which all industrial steel is required to be able to handle
>industrial steel
is this what you guys up north call mild steel, because the steel used to make i-beams is pretty cheapo
and fire resistance is one of steel building's biggest problems compared to wood beam structures. under heavy loads, i beam steel does not require a lot of heat before it starts bending like a noodle, which is why they're always coated with either fire retardant paint or cementious spray, and why fire supression standards keep rising
>>58588765
The steel at the WTC did not melt.
>>58596248
It's a solid, but not crystalline. Technically it's an amorphous solid.
It isn't liquid by any means.
>>58588683
lmao
>your arguement is invalid, Find a JOB
based
>>58596248
this is a myth perpetuated by fourth graders to be smartasses during science time
>>58606595
this guy is correct
at room temperature, glass will not slowly sink into a puddle, no matter how long you wait
>>58589049
>MELTING
>/melt/
>make or become liquefied by heat.
This does not explain the puddles of molten metal found at ground zero....at all
>>58588683
14 years later.....we are still chasing red herrings like a bunch of faggots
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
It Doesn't MATTER if jet fuel can or cannot melt steal beams.
>that's the shill tactic shitlords
Building 7
Thyroid Cancer in first responders
>need we say anymore than that?
>>58606847
>literally every bit of metal in the biggest building in nyc was structural steal.
>No massive network of copper pipes
>No system of AC ducts to rival a small city's volume
>No elevator shafts and doors and railings and filing cabinets and desks and lights and and and
>>58607022
steel
>>58606847
Pressure can also create heat sort of like friction so jet fuel heat + pressure heat and the friction of falling equals hot enough to melt steel.
Its a meme anyway. Only fucking retards believe 9/11 was an inside job.
I am an Ironworker.
Steel loses about half of its strength at 900 degrees.
With the type of structural loading that the WTC had, I'm surprised it did not collapse just from the impacting plane. Yes, it was designed to withstand a 707, a 757 and 767 is a lot bigger.
As a side note, my father in law worked on both planes that hit the the towers, and the one that hit the pentagon.
>>58588683
>whether or not it was a conspiracy, I DON'T CARE. What I'm concerned about is the retarded metalurgical things you guys are saying
fucking dropped
"I can bend a 1/2 inch steel rod using my black smith furnace, therefore you're all idiots and your arguments are invalid." - how sweet the irony.
FREE FALL. - Building 7. - Thyroid Cancer.
>>58606407
it was a single steel bar left in a furnace.. he didn't prove squat retard.
invalid argument. he said the heat he's using is 300 degrees hotter than jet fuel.
>>58606847
Maybe since heat makes steel amiable, when the tower flattened it made the steel flat in puddle like formations giving the appearance of melting when it was on mashed.
>>58589666
Liquid is not malleable. Ahahhaa retard America
>>58588683
So plz explain the rivers of molten steel that were still flowing a week after 9/11
>>58608453
The steel would have cooled off rather quickly and not be flowing, that was other metals like metal from computers and desks melted.
>>58608453
Clearly this is the result of a phased plasma beam from a CIA satellite. It's so simple!
>>58608900
No, it's clearly the work of Jewish wizards using magic they learned from the reptilian overlords.
