Okay pol
How do we remove the 1.4 billion kebeb from the planet?
Obviously we cannot kill them all, but their religion needs to be destroyed at the foundation and cause most muslims to leave Islam.
So how do we destroy that foundation and make Islam a turn off for people?
>>57525286
Assassinate their radical leadership and corrupt the rest with video games and pornography.
Best solution with least loss of life.
Actual education.
Get world leaders and celebrities to admit that all religions are bullshit and poisonous.
Basically get everyone to subscribe to based Hitchens.
We cant. The best thing we can do is to pack them all onto space shuttles and Columbia the shit out of them. Or just fly them into the sun, since we don't want their filth scattered everywhere
>>57525375
Except for the radical part. that sounds kinda familiar.
>>57525375
But would killing off their leaders lead to more radical leaders?
>>57525445
So turn everyone into a Fedora? Interesting.
>>57525286
First ban Wahhabism and Salafism.
These are the two most cancerous forms of Islam.
Wipe out every other religion and faith based philosophy. Once they are the last assholes left, the shame alone will make things right.
Fucking faith based feel faggots.
>>57525286
I'm going to reply half seriously because this is something I'm interested in, but right now the first thing to do is to create a group dedicated to the study of Islam and of liberal (classical) values in order to form people who can effectively challenge Islam in a variety of social situation, including in formal debate.
One of the first duty of the member of such group would be to be conversant in the doctrine of Islam, since you cannot create an opposition group based on ignorance.
Such a group should have a
1. A manifesto / declaration of principle
2. A decentralized organizational structure (some of its cell and members will be destroyed or killed, respectively)
3. An education program designed for its members
4. Objectives that can be measured
The first objective of this movement would be to acquire mass, ie. member, by ignoring some of the critique it would receive from the general populace. The point of the first phase would not be to convince every body that Islam is bad, but rather to turn people that are currently apathetic but sympathetic into members which can effectively proselytize. Said member would have to create local cell of the group, all of which would have, as a first goal, to acquire mass.
The second stage will mainly consist of using this mass to counter information campaign currently being waged by the Islamist. This mean influence operation and lobbying targeted and people and group of influence. Other, more socially oriented event should also be organized.
There are two other stages concerning international action, but it doesn't matter.
>>57525701
But wouldn't all the fags cry that the US has freedom of religion?
Remove bagel
>>57526003
>>57526023
I think this is interesting and worth exploring further.
Freedom of religion needs to end.
That is the dumbest fucking thing in the whole constitution.
>muh beliefs!!!!
>muh beliefs in spite of OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE!!!
EVIDENCE FAGGOTS.
>>57525564
Possibly.
And if it does, as long as you just keep the same strategy going until no new radical leaders step up, you solve that problem too.
It's a win win.
>>57526023
>liberal (classical) values
You're a fucking retard, these people have lived in deserts and bred with their sisters for thousands of years now. They are incompatible with western civ, mass deportations and anti-islamization is the only solution.
These hajjis aren't spontaneously organized and funded. They clearly have state sponsorship--The Saudis. Cut off the head of the snake and the body dies.
Crippling strikes against Saudi industrial, military, and civilian infrastructure. Confiscate all financial assets. Then clean up the random lone wolf attacks that happen in the aftermath.
Nothing short of Ender-style annihilation.
>>57526295
On principle it's a good thing, it's just that the liberal concept of multiculturalism is giving civil rights to people who are our not equals. deus vult desu senpai
>>57526191
The word "phases" being used here is a bit misleading, as it implies that they succeed one another temporally, but they will most likely all overlap to some extend, depending on the local conditions of the location the group is operating in.
Phase three consists of the creation of material, written in arabic and in languages used in muslim majority country, to be disseminated in said country for the purpose of bringing the ideological fight to the shore of those who are bringing it into our homes. This should be explicit and declared, and should cater to the sensibilities of the youth of these countries.
The fourth phase, which is merely a restatement of the first phase, is the acquisition of mass in those non western countries which are not muslim majority country. Often, these country have not been contaminated by the sort of cultural relativism which currently prevents the west from taking Islam seriously and, as a result, challenge it. For instance, there is almost no doubt that some form of alliance or association with various groups in India and other part of Asia should be possible.
Furthermore, this outreach should not limit itself to foreign national of other countries, but should also seek to reach minority community in the west and, if possible, make them prominent figure of the movement. I do not see any reason why the Indian or the Chinese should have any appreciation of Islam what so ever. The fact of the matter is that the movement will have to be multi ethnic if it is to survive.
This is not only so for tactical reason, but for ideological reason as well. The movement will be as inclusive as impossible, and will focus on content of character rather on vulgar nationalism. All people with the right ideas will be welcome, to the exception of muslims.
>>57526487
Total defeat worked against the Japanese.
>>57526361
I don't think you know what a classical liberal is.
>Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has a right to, but himself.
John Locke
>>57525286
Force them to become Shia.
Bankroll Iran to conquer the Middle East.
>>57526108
well yeah, that was kind of the point.
when you ask a question that stupid, you get an answer that stupid.
or did you take this whole thread as serious discussion...?
>>57525286
Fuck off, Sam Harris. Making Middle Easterners leave Islam won't solve anything. They're just violent by nature; the violent religion they've created for themselves is a manifestation of their racial character. All we have to do is keep them out of white countries.
>>57527042
Try explaining property rights to a dunecoon who lives in a tent on sand and rapes his nine year old nephew every night
I think people forget that contemporary Islam is far more radical than its medieval variant; there's such talk of them being "stuck in the middle ages" that it gets lost in the shuffle that the Islam we know today grew from the teachings of Wahab, bolstered by support from the Royal House of Saud in their bid to subdue competing houses and conquer Arabia in the 1700's.
Arabia under Saudi monarchy is a religious/governmental complex. In many ways, you could say that the Wahabbi radicals were almost playing the Saudis, rather than the other way around.
The Saudi leadership would have to be dismantled for Islam to return to normalcy. But they're supported by the US, so good luck with that.
>>57527546
You would not have to participate in the movement.
The movement would have as an implicit or explicit supposition that "all men are created equal", although this does not imply that they necessarily stay equal throughout life.
The movement will be inherently non racist, but will be Islamophobic by definition.
There are few question in life that cannot be answered by searing blasts of nuclear hatred
>>57527809
I don't have much faith in social/cultural engineering. Their faith is predicated on superiority anyway, I don't see the point in trying
>>57527179
Why the fuck would we do that?
>>57525286
planes and tanks, drones and tactical nukes, the initial strike is the most important, you have to hit the largest population centers at 3am in the morning and tell all the police/reserve in western world to be on guard.
also you have to temporarily shut down the media and telecommunications coming out of htese shitholes
then you have to go in and secure hte oil supply as quickly as possible
all in all its pretty damn difficult
pakistan is the most difficult to deal with, they have nukes aimed right at india which has billions of nonloopooers, i know that not much of value would be lost but i guess for the purposes of the question, you would want to try and minimize the loss of non mudslime shitskin life.
the other way is to turn them against each other and make them do the majority of your work for you, arm iran and saudi arabia and let them go to war all over hte middle east, no holds barred, no warcrime tribunerals, no rules of engagement, just give them a timeline and say it has to be over by year x.
>>57528286
>I don't see the point in trying
There is two point. One is that you might be wrong, in which case we could convince some people to be our ideological allies in various region of interest.
The second is that you are right, in which case our best effort will crash against obstinate, stubborn, stupid and inarticulate resistance, at which point we will use these induced responses as propaganda points elsewhere.
Nothing is lost. If you cannot convince someone of something reasonable, then you have at least shown to somebody else that this person was not reasonable.