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How do i refute this?
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>>57521177
call them c.ucks
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>>57521177
What is there to refute?
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What the fuck does a 9 year old have to say in any political arena? A really smart 15-18 year old, sure. But a 9 year old just learned to stop eating paste like 3 years ago.
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Ask why there aren't any dindus/mexicans in the Youth Parliament
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You mean the whitest, genetically closest nations are the best places to live in the world? No shit?
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>>57521177
>9-18 year old representatives
lol reddit literally has a say in their government. Trudeau might be reddit- tier, but at least he's 43 years old.
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>>57521177
You... well you don't. If its factually true why would you even think of it?
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>>57521296
That's percentage at 60% of median income for each individual country? How is that a meaningful statistic to compare?
Isn't poverty in absolute terms more important?
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>>57521177

because their country isn't overrun with dindus/snackbars/spics

it has literally nothing to do with any of this shit. you can have all this nice shit when you live in an ethnically unified nation
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>>57521177
Talk to anyone from Finland who will tell you its complete bullshit.
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>>57521457
>Finland
>White
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>>57521177

so you want children to live in poverty?
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>>57521177
Compare Finland's Immigration policy to that of the US, and you will see something quite interesting:

>The granting of a residence permit requires that your income is secure

>A secure income means that you have a sufficient income to fund you and your family’s stay in Finland. You can have income from, for example, employment, private enterprise, own capital or pensions. The level of income is calculated from your net income, i.e. income that remains after tax and employer’s and employee’s pension and insurance contributions.

>http://www.migri.fi/moving_to_finland_to_be_with_a_family_member/income_requirement
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>>57521177
Wait 5 years and the immigrants will ruin everything.
Or the finns will get pissed and drive them out, in that case you can just tell them they're based.
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>>57521177

Because those things only work in racially homogeneous white society. Wouldn't work in America because we're multicultural.
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>>57521520
Of course not. Numbers are irrelevant compared to my feelings. And all I can feel is envy.
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>>57521343
It's probably educational
Obviously it's an acceptable range of ages, not a mandatory nine year old must attend
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>>57521177
>lowest CHILD poverty
top kek. who cares? congratulations, the most unimportant demographic in your economy is reaping the majority of its benefits
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the finnish are white and nationalistic

thats what would help the USA
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>>57521520
It's useful to measure inequality
The proper one would be relative poverty, wealth against cost of living in the country
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>El Gibsado
>sandnogs would rather go to Germany
Nah mate I don't think so.
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>>57521528
>>57521725
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>>57521541
Thank you for correcting my American companion. This is terribly embarrassing, I can only imagine what you must think of us.
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>>57521296
thats what the left gets for trying to have a "war" on poverty
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>>57521177
Of course their child poverty isn't low, they're pouring all their resources into free shit for everyone.

We'd be doing well too if we emptied our social security into welfare, doesn't mean that it's a sound economic policy.
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>>57521177
Just tell them that the graphic used to say Sweden until multiculturalism took over.
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let them know that it isn't true

youth unemployment in finland is sky high
there is no basic income for minors, wtf
youth parliament? never even heard of it unless it's like a student government at schools or something

there is parental leave and child care is bretty gud but you shouldn't have to make shit up just to point out low child poverty
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>>57521520
I imagine they go by median to account for the different costs of living in different countries.
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You could always ask them where that graphic gets its sources.

Also without a planned economy how does one guarantee jobs to people under 25?
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>>57522130

its more sound than social security and welfare being different
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>>57521935
Yeah and that spike the year Reagan was elected is just a coincidence.
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>>57521935
Poverty staying down except when recessions hit?
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>>57521849
inequality is meaningless if your poor are doing well.
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>>57521177
It's not free. It's paid for with tax dollars. So individuals who do not have children have money stolen from them in order to pay for other people's children to have free shit given to them.
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>>57521935
But the economic opportunity act started in 64 and ended in 1996.
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>>57521520
>>57521528
I'm convinced it does not matter what you're economic policies are, as long as your country is all white, it will work.
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Because they reproduce at half the replacement rate, therefore concentrate all the wealth to few children.
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>>57521725
Multiculturalism is a thing here and we have one of the highest living standards on the planet, what now burgers?
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>>57521177
>free child care
>basic incoome
>guaranteed job
>youth parliament
Rest in RIP Finland. How could responsible male adults grow up in that sugar coated hellhole
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>>57522581
Poor is a relative measure. By ancient standards we're very rich. It's about improving the future for our kids and everyone else. The economy exists to improve everyone's economic status, not just a small demographic.

It's also important for long term stable growth.
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>>57522847
>The economy exists to improve everyone's economic status, not just a small demographic

and that is exactly what has happened. The poor in america live incredibly better lives than they did 100 years ago.
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>>57522847
>Poor is a relative measure
No.
>The economy exists to improve everyone's economic status, not just a small demographic
Which is why the absolute figures are what matter, not relative.
>everyone gets poorer
>rich loses more
Splendid achievement, equality marches on!
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>>57521177
>1 year paid parental leave
true
>free child care
true
>basic income for minors
true but its meant for parents to take care of their child
>guaranteed job for anyone under 25
not true. About 20% of people under 25 are unemployed.
>youth parliament with 9 to 18 year old representatives
true but nobody cares about them
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>>57521177

The whole goddamn country has 5.5 million people. How do people realistically assume that a working model for a country with a population the size of Houston would be a viable model for a country of 320 million?
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>>57521177
From left to right 1, 2, 3 are somewhat true.
But I don't know where the fuck did you pull out numbers 4 & 5.
They don't guarantee you a job here. most students struggle to be employed, due to companies trying to take advantage of you, by trying to have you work for free for experience. Also our student support is tied to your income, make even few euros too much and poof they will force you to pay all of the support back to gov.
We have youth political parties but not a"youth parliament", at least not one with any pull on matters.

"Basic income" is granted to anyone over 16 and unemployed but you will have to sing up for employment programs or you have to prove that you are retarded enough for autism bucks. There are strings attached.
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>>57521177
serius what is this bullshit?
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>>57522708
Greece
Croatia
Latvia
Portugal
Romania
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>>57521177

The pic is full of shit and the pictures themselves aren't from Finland.
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>>57523206
>"white"
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>>57521177
you don't

It works as long as the population is native
It'll soon crumble to absolute shit, just like it did in Belgium
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>>57522609
Meanwhile in US kikes and multibillionaires ramp up all the money, well, atleast the money didn't go to children
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Becuse they're mostly white
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1st and 2nd panels are true. The 3rd panel is misleading. Yes, you are paid some money for having children, but this money is not given to the children like the picture and the text might lead you to think, but for the parents. The parents, of course, may choose to give the money to the child, but are in no way obligated to do so. 4th panel is straight up bullshit. The 5th panel is true but they (luckily) don't have any kind of power.
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>>57523112
>>youth parliament with 9 to 18 year old representatives
>true but nobody cares about them


jesus christ that's actually true??? I thought that was some bait. top kek.
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>>57523206
>Blacked
>Gypsy/Jew
>Gypsy/Jew
>Spic/Moor/Kebabs
>Gypsy/Jew

FTFY
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>>57523442
There are +100 youth "parliaments" on municipality level, and yes, i'd guess nobody gives a shit about them
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>>57521177
The only two ways to reduce child poverty is to raise their allowance or repeal the ban on child labor. If you're not willing to do either of those then you'll have to settle for a world were children can't afford to buy their own legos
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>>57521177

>Youth Parliament

At first, I though this was fucking bonkers. However, I soon came to realize that it can be a VERY useful tool for informing children as to how their government works, which can make them better citizens.

Interesting.
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>>57523296
that's croatian president. she doesn't look white to you nigger?
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>>57521381
Why would they have either of those in Finland?

Niggers maybe, but Mexicans?
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>>57523206
He said white you dumb fuck.
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>>57523014
It hasn't happened much in the past few decades unfortunately
>>57523081
>poor is a relative measure
Absolute poverty is 1.25 dollars a day, relative poverty depends. First world countries talk about the second when we say poor.
>absolute figures matters because we're trying to improve everyone's economic standing
You can use both figures, what's the difference? I assume you mean it's still economic growth for the poorer if they grow in absolute terms. That's true, but it's about maximising growth for the majority, which can't happen with economic inequality.

See 95% of wage growth in America post recession going to the top 5%.
>everyone gets poorer
Money just disappears now? It's used to fund government policies like education and healthcare.
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>>57521177
1 year parental leave is for mothers only. Men get a week or a month (I think), because of patriarchy.

Free childcare, no. Heavily subsidized, yes.

Basic income for minors. Yeah, sort of. If you count in government aid for child care which is generally directed to the caretakers or financial aid for studying, which are still income based.

Guaranteed job? Absolutely not.

I forgot youth parliament exists. Essentially a sideshow as even the actual parliament doesn't seem to have any say in the things of the way the country is run.
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>>57523081
That's equality to people now, if everyone's life sucks then everyone is doing better!!
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>>57523296
>>57523461
>>57523662
>let's change the definition of white to those countries that are successful
Might as well say successful countries are successful
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>>57523112
>>guaranteed job for anyone under 25
>not true. About 20% of people under 25 are unemployed.
Yeah, I didn't understand that one.

How do you guarantee jobs?

That's such a stupid statement to make.
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>>57523135
Because the meme counts employment regardless of pay.
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>>57521177
BTFO by actual Finns...fuck off back Reddit.
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>>57523727
Forgot pic
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>>57523809
>socialism
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>>57522708
Ukraine tho.
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>>57523804
Those countries were never white you chink piece of shit
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>>57523461
sadly,croatia is infinitely more white than the usa at this point. we have absolutely nothing to be happy about or shit down on euros
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>>57523442
They hold no power over anything. I think it's mostly just for young kids who are interested in politics to get a chance to get some experience.
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>>57523809
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffi.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNuorisotakuu&edit-text=

School or job.
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Because its got a population less than NYC, with a population that small I dont doubt you can easily do these things. Now try it with 300+ million
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>>57523727
>Money just disappears now?
It's called a thought experiment.
>You can use both figures, what's the difference?
One is worthless, the other isn't.
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>>57522815
Sheep don't count.
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>>57523594
Model UN and that shit does basically the same thing
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>>57524024
I see.
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>>57521177
1 >father gets 9week unpaid leave if he wants it
2 >someone has to pay taxes
3 >thats cool where i can get it?
4 >is it real job or some stupid courses so you wont be unemployent?
5 >those kids are just eating cookies and drinking juice they got no real power

what is this kikebook shit doing here?
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Easy for bernie to preach but that fuckers from fucking vermont tiny state in size and population, try this shit in illinois or california, texas?
They mean well but if they get into office they will wreck our economy
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What is there to refute?

There are NO shitskins in Finland. Their short hedas do not have the capacity to learn the language.
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>>57522515
spike? its not a spike when it used to be 30%
>>57522560
poverty was already going down until it was stalled to make a perpetual voting class dependant on a nanny
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>>57521769
>From a 2014 article, pic related

It may have been on the education note, but it is sliding my friend. I can only guess as to why?
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>>57522515
>year Reagan was elected
>1968
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>>57524344
>vermont tiny state in size
Vermont is more than 10 times smaller, nigga
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>>57521296
Israel.
>send money to gods chosen
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>>57524638
Compared to us states,
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>>57521177
The bottom of society is doing better. But do you aspire to be at the bottom of society?
That's the American difference. Europe says, don't work and you'll be taken care of. America says, work hard and you'll achieve beyond your wildest dreams.
We're going to make America great again. If you don't like it get out.
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>>57521296
>using income inequality to designate poverty instead of relative living conditions for the poor
U.S. "impoverished" live really well compared to others, except those whom are hobos, who usually would need to be in an institute to live well.
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>>57525259
This as well. It's hilarious hearing Bernie Sanders supporters babble about how free trade and skilled immigration make the American poor worse off. Well if you really cared about the poor you would realize the American "poor" aren't so poor at all, and you're hurting the real poor people around the world.
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>>57521177
Accuse them of being on a slippery slope to the next Soviet Union. When they insist that they're not Soviet socialists, scream about No True Scotsman and insist that all socialism is the same.
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>>57521830
>child quality of life
>not important
You sound like a cartoon villain.
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>>57521177
Really? Finland will guarantee a basic income and employment to everyone not already employed in sub-Saharan Africa? Well, very nice of you Swamis, and here I thought your success was a textbook case of ethno-cultural homogeneity.
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>>57522581
The poor of today's America have things like heating, electricity, and refrigeration that weren't available to the poor of 100 years ago, but that doesn't negate the fact that poor people in America still struggle to make ends meet and aren't generally the happiest people around.
In traditional "primitive" societies like the Inuit, everyone is at the same economic level, that is to say what Westerners would probably consider poor. However, people of such societies definitely aren't all-around miserable by any means.
Happiness isn't just tied to absolute wealth, which has changed historically with technological innovations, but is also connected with relative wealth, class exploitation, and the presence of factors like strong family and community units.
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>>57523081
>hurr if the rich lose we all lose
Margaret Thatcher pls leave
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>>57521613

OP, respond
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>>57524982
Nice strawman you got there. The hay harvest must have done well my friend.
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>>57521177
Just accuse them of being racist - works wonders for the left and no facts required.
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>>57521177

They have a higher population of whites. Just like all the "socialist" countrries that bernie bots look to when talking about how great it would be for us.
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>>57521177
Because niggers, jews, and catholics are almost nonexistent.

True White Protestant nations are prosperous.

Want to really make America great again?
Drive those three classes of vermin into the sea.
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