Why does he have such bad arguments, /pol/?
I like Bill but this was really poorly done and not thought out at all, especially when he tries to act like he's 100% right on the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPrw0NYkMg
>>57519955
You're starting to see he's full of shit. Now you know why American /pol/ is so annoyed by the shill guy.
The thing that I dislike about this video is that he doesn't give his own position.
He says that a zygote doesn't deserve the rights of an individual and that to feel that way lacks scientific understanding.
Okay then Mr. Nye... enlighten us with your scientific prowess. Tell us when the unborn deserve the rights of an individual. At three months? At six months? At nine months?
He just fucking whines in that video without giving a position of his own. Fuck him.
Who is this guy? Whats so relevant about some old science faggot?
>>57519955
His show is for children. The children are non stop victims of propaganda these days.
>>57519955
The abortion debate hinges on one point, and on one point alone. It is this:
When is a person considered a person?
If Bill Nye can describe the physical process by which personhood is bestowed, his methods for discovering such, along with freely distributing all of his research data so that this fact can be reproduced, I will be happy to accept what he says.
However, if all he has are scientific descriptions of different stages of development...
>At 3 weeks, this that and the other thing begin to form.
>At 12 weeks, this is occurring and that has finished developing.
>At 20 weeks, the fetus weighs approximately *** and the other part is nearing functionality.
.... then his moral argument amount to little more than a bowl of shit.
Morality is not deduced from descriptions of physical phenomena. Anyone who attempts to assert such is a fucking moron.
>But at 14 weeks, it weighs only this much, that isn't functioning yet, and the other thing is still in formation!
That is not a moral argument. Go fuck yourself.
"Global warming caused the Paris attacks" - Bill Nye
He's a fucking joke and should kill himself ASAP. He's tainting the name of science.
>>57521064
Did he really say that?
>>57521178
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-nye-climate-change-paris-terrorism_565ccdebe4b079b2818b810b
>>57521030
Bazringo. No one pro abortion ever answers this and the anti abortion people kinda answer it.
>>57521545
He really used Paris as an excuse to shill climate change, what the fuck
>>57519955
>Bad argument on abortion
>Bad argument on climate change
>Bad argument on race
>Not a biologist, meteorologist, or moral authority.
>Has been riding off a bachelors for 40 years
Why does anyone care about him anymore? He's just a leftist shill at this point.
Because he's a kids' show host.
>>57519955
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>science guy
>claims to be rational
Actual rational guy here.
Bill pls.
You're all but a dogmatic theologian.
>climate change causes X
Climate change is natural you dumb faggot. There is no scientist in the world that denies climate change because it's impossible to deny.
Do some actual science and study before opening your whore mouth.
>You can't tell somebody what to do
OMG this guy is retarded
>>57522133
>Why does anyone care about him anymore? He's just a leftist shill at this point.
You've missed the point of being redundant and answered your own question.
>>57519955
Listening to Billy Nye for science is like studying Naval Warfare from Captain Kangaroo.
Because normal Americans don't fall for the climate change caused by terror shit Anna the administration knows it so through some gov Veblen the stick bill out there because the millennials ducks love him and he's perfect for getting then to eat less up
probably bc he only has a BA in engineering and isn't qualified to comment on any of this shit
>>57519955
Bleeding heart faggots, kill yourselves. Babies are not something sacred. We are in no shortage of people.
>>57524327
You finally show your true self, Bill.
>>57524545
Bill is American. You goose-fucker.
>>57519955
DUDE
WHITE
SCIENCE
MAN
LMAO
>>57524730
Silly Bill, I know you visit the UK regularly
>>57520382
>enlighten us with your scientific prowess
Nigga has a bachelor's mechanical engineering
>>57520435
He had a TV show back in the 90s where he taught kids about science. Since 75% of current American popular culture is nostalgia porn, people will believe anything he says
Bill Nye is literally a puppet. He's not a scientist, but he has a false sense of authority among millennials because "muh childhood TV shows".
He's literally being paid to read a script to push an agenda.
>>57521834
Our answer, along with the Supreme Court's, is "until viability", which is somewhere between 23 and 27 weeks
When will you people realize that birth control and abortions equal fewer minorities?
>fertilized eggs are not people
>therefor it's nobody's business to say 8 1/2 month abortion is wrong
bravo bill, you fucking dunce. go back to fellating balloons on PBS, it's all anybody wants to see you doing.
>>57526338
This is quite literally the only reason I support abortion.
If a mother gets an abortion, she is ending the life of her child. There is no way around this fact. I honestly don't get how people can argue against this
>>57519955
All these meme scientists such as Bill Nye and Neil Tyson Degrasse feel that their claims about political and moral problems are more valid than anyone else because of >dude science lmao. Its honestly so retarded.
By the pro-abortion, murder should literally not be a crime
I mean, how dare we tell people what to do with their bodies? If a guy wants to stab folks on the street, who are we to tell him he can't do that? His body, his knife, his choice!
>>57528297
*pro-abortion logic
![World_map_with_tropic_of_cancer[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xxoiNnP.jpg "World_map_with_tropic_of_cancer[1].jpg")
>>57526338
seriously.
we're at 7 billion people and counting, and only about 7 million of them at most are actually worth a fuck to society at large.
not only should PP receive federal funding, it should receive complete funding to the point where every county has enough facilities to offer unlimited free abortions, and we should fund PP expanding into every country south of the tropic of cancer.
drop a 100 billion dollars a year on providing abortions for the entire world.
>>57519955
>nobody likes abortion, but you can't tell people what to do.
Alright, let's just get rid of all laws then.
>>57519955
>can we stop telling women what to do with their bodies
When they stop murdering our children.
>>57519955
>this was really poorly done and not thought out at all, especially when he tries to act like he's 100% right on the issue.
Sounds like every liberal darling scientist in a nutshell
>>57529620
>our children
I hate this term.
Your children? Since when does your neighbor's kids belong to you?
>>57529620
>caring about aborted niggers
D E G E N E R A T E
Bill nye may have gone full retard of lare, bit he was dead on when he wrecked the creation museum fag.
>>57531245
>when he wrecked the creation museum fag
For him to wreck Ham would require him to even win the debate. His first mistake was challenging him to a debate in the first place, and nothing came out of it whatsoever. The worst he did was shoot some insults at Creationism before the debate took place, and Ken Ham just laughed them off and thought nothing of it.
>>57529722
>Our countrymen
Would you say the same for this term?
Don't play stupid.
>>57519955
>Nye's reasoning hinges on a water shortage in Syria, which researchers have blamed on climate change. As Nye explained, the shortage has stunted farming and pushed young people to look for work in more densely populated areas.
Usually people speak of the strategic importance of the Golan as a natural barrier which divides feuding Israel and Syria; however, the significance of this territory with respect to the economy and population are also exceptionally great. The Golan Heights, seized from Syria, are a geographic diamond in Israel's crown. They consist of a flat mountain plateau (about 1150 km2, with a length of 60 km and an average width of 25 km) covered with fertile soil. The greater part of them are at an altitude of 1000 meters above sea level, thanks to which they have a particularly favorable climate. The Golan Heights are rich in water sources (which is rare in the Middle East) which flow into the Sea of Galilee. It is here that the legendary Jordan originates. Up to a third of the water used in Israel comes from the Golan Heights.
>>57532507
>Would you say the same for this term?
Yes. Stop being a fuckwit and thinking you own people.
>>57521064
>>57533100
Meant to link to this.
>>57519955
I used to like this guy back when I first heard of him, since it can only be benefitial to teach kids science plus his shows were 90s as fuck, but then the fag went political, which is where it all turned to shit like it does.
>>57521030
>When is a person considered a person?
this isn't rocket science.
if you're pregnant, don't get an abortion.
instead of promoting abortions, we need to be promoting sex education and basic morals.
PSA to all women: don't let a dude fuck you without a condom unless you're ready to take responsibility for your actions.
same goes to men. if you don't have a condom, just jack off. if she says she's on the pill or it's a "safe day" she's fucking lying and trying to trap you.
>>57519955
>Why does he have such bad arguments, /pol/?
Because he only has a bachelors in Mechanical Engineering.
Bill isn't even a scientist. He just plays one on TV.
>>57531960
Bro. C'mon. Ham got destroyed. He looked ridiculous.
>>57533105
No one is claiming ownership you fucking idiot. I say "my dad", but I don't own him. It's implying we have some sort of connection/relationship.
Fuck I didn't think I would have to give you an English lesson with this shit.
>>57519955
>tfw i'm halfway to having the same degree as bill nye.
>>57519955
He played a quirky character on Babby's First Basic Science Show to pay his bills many years ago. This does not make him a good or credible person.
>>57521030
The abortion debate actually hinges on whether legalized abortion will cause good consequences or not. Whether or not we call the fetus a person is irrelevant.
Look at the people having abortions...
Do we really want them breeding?
>>57533663
I know. Since when the hell is abdicating personal responsibility a right? If anything, when you abdicate responsibility, you should be given less rights, because you obviously can't handle them.
>>57534334
>it's legal to kill people who haven't done anything wrong as long as the consequences are generally good
Think about what you said.
>>57534062
Your dad IS your dad.
But a child that is NOT your child is NOT your child, dungwad.
>>57534444
The welfare system encourages naggers to be dependent and have more children they can't raise.
If you're calling for a final eugenic solution of these bums, let's not beat around the bush.
it's funny how liberals agree with stormfags on killing off minorities. proves they are racists themselves but just don't like to admit it.
>>57534585
The thing is the consequences are generally not good.
Abortion gets rid of unwanted children, many of which grow up to be criminals.
>>57534585
This is why I support voluntary but encouraged sterilization.
This way, no one has to die, AND we can greatly cut the number of unfit people making problems. Hell, I even support paying them. Give them free pairs of air jordans or some shit to get snipped/tube-tied. Or with poor white people, free walmart gift cards, or with kebabs, free diamond-encrusted Ferrari pens.
etc...
>The Big Think
Bill Nye sounds like a bumbling fuck in this video, nothing about it made me think.
>>57534588
Our children (i.e. our next generation). So yes, our children. Not in the literal sense of having a child.
>>57534783
>It's okay, officer. Statistically, this unwanted 1-year-old would've become a criminal 17 years from now.
>Ah, I see. Move along.
>>57535422
Abortion means unborn.
>>57535525
You just said whether the killed thing was "a person" was irrelevant, since the debate is about whether killing them would have good consequences. >>57534334
That's not what the abortion debate is about, because very few people actually put the end above the means.
>>57519955
He's a washed up meme from the 90s. Literally shit tier scientist. Shit tier TV host. Divorced, stupid, alone, and approaching the end of his life. His greatest accomplishment? A grass car and an obnoxious theme song.
What we are witnessing is a desperate and lonely man desperately trying to salvage some value out of his life. He does this buy claiming to be an intellectual (he's not and knows it but other idiots saw him on TV and assume he only tells the truth).
Now he posts videos on 'big meme' with a white background. He talks about 'science' but really its just liberal politics. Truly pathetic and we should feel sorry for him.
Bill Nye the propaganda guy
Shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill
>>57537606
saved
>>57537831
You're 100% on point, anon. It's difficult to watch sometimes. Even when he's only doing the science shtick and isn't overtly following a leftist narrative. You can tell his worldview is backwards and unworkable in a lot of ways. He sort of sabotages himself by being too idealistic and naive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7GOO7Y96Y
Like in this video where he awkwardly tries to navigate through a conversation with a couple of dindus. They hate his quirky humor. They don't find the space frontier to be important at all. They just want gibsmedats, Bill obviously can't accept that liberals - especially black liberals - would be this stupid. But he has to keep going, because he's made a living off of this bullshit.
>Can we stop telling women what to do with their bodies?
So he's okay with legalizing the use of all drugs and allowing suicide as well? To say otherwise would limit what women can do with their body.
>>57528618
For the same price you could just carpet bomb the entirety of Africa and the problem would be solved. Along with saving trillions in aid money
Abortions a really fucked up issue.
>>57519955
he's not a doctor
he's just some guy with a bachelors of arts in engineering.
>>57531960
Yea but it allowed reddit and the rest of the fedorafags to circle jerk about it for months
>HURRR DURRR STOOPID CHRISTIANS
>>57524980
>Nigga has a bachelor's
Stopped reading right there
>>57534334
>Whether or not we call the fetus a person is irrelevant.
Bullshit. If the fetus is a person and you rationalize away its rights on the basis of whether the consequences will be good your own rights can be rationalized away on the same basis.
>>57519955
who is this man and why did he become 9gag/tumblr?
>>57539829
I think people should have the right to do it but it should not be celebrated of course
>>57519955
I don't want to break anybody's childhood but... Bill Nye is not a real scientist.
>>57539470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lro8_kVeLDM
Its very very sad. He just rambles science facts. Bill Maher even tries to shut him up nicely. We're going to have pictures of pluto! and global warming is real, oh and by the way creationism is wrong. I feel bad for him.
Truly a pathetic man.
>>57540306
btw the pics of pluto 'that would change the world' came out and nobody gave a shit.
The abortion industry proves to me only men genuinely care for children.
A child to a woman is a means to an end. A woman would not abort the child of a man who indulges her physical & financial wellbeing.
"Stop telling me what to do with my body" - no, we're trying to make you feel shame since you lack the moral compass to feel guilty.
So why is this guy held as an authority on anything? His logic is retarded and he isn't even a scientist.
>>57541068
people are really that stupid anon.
>>57540306
It's time to rethink your life decisions when your job is to be a hyperbolic sperglord who continuously flubbs his TV spots.
I first saw Bill Nye in the nineties on a show called "Almost Live". With no further ado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxh5mPsZw4
and Nye himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otkW4TlgC5w
>>57542001
first clip 7/10
second clip mfw/10
>>57519955
Who the hell is making the argument he's complaining about? More liberal logic of... "This is what your thinking!!"
He uses "Logic" and NOT ONCE does he suggest using condoms. What is cheaper a abortion or a condom? Also as we talk about a "healthier" society can we bring up disease prevention? Condoms help there too.
How about the importance of family structure? Simply people helping one another and helping to raise strong children. As people have been doing for thousands of years right along with those books ole' Bill seem to want to disregard.
I understand we need Abortion it's a great meter to measure stupid and irresponsible. I don't want to pay for other people's reckless lifestyles but it is they who are the threat to a healthy society NOT people who take on responsibility.
Condoms work better than no condoms.
>>57540812
Much of the criticism of abortion comes from Mothers.
Problem is the left keeps selling it as the "womens choice", disregarding what said choice would say given a few years.
>>57544049
Cut dicks don't feel shit with condoms.
Oh look, another issue relating to babies with no choice in the matter.
>>57545450
I got a cut dick I would never go without a condom.
>>57541111
Based
Bill Nye "the holocaust denying" guy
Bill Nye "the jew hating" guy
Bill Nye "the oy vey" guy
