fun fact: if the EU federalised or joined together in unison we would have a higher GDP than Canada and America combined. Europe would be the most powerful state in history
Roman empire 2.0
>>57373580
Literally governed by the EU Commission who are unelected and can propose any sort of legislation nearly unopposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs
>>57373580
pls use new map,Croatia mising
>>57373580
But you would have to stop sucking American cock for that, which automatically makes this plan a no-go.
>Federalised
Why does it have to be a federation? Why can't it be a confederation?
>>57373580
I mean thats les of an idea and more of a final goal,if yurop dosent fall apart United states of Europa is what EU will become.
And it would work too! if it wasn't for all these fucking 55million + Muslims!
>>57373580
And if you lube up your anus the dick that Ahmed inserts in it every night won't feel as bad before..
>>57373580
Roman empire 2.0 = Roman collapse 2.0
>>57374753
If the gadamn ruskies didnt throw a wrench in the Ukraine plan,that wuld mean 45 milion Orthodox to offset that 55 milion muslim,and if serbs arent literal incarnation of /pol/ thats another 7,Montenigger 0.5M,and norway an their fucking fish 5 mil
>>57374321
I wish France was missing...
>>57373580
We were strong because we were competing with each other. Now, we a running a race with our 27 ankle ties against the best sprinters in the world.
Greeks aren't germans and french aren't estonians. White people aren't arr rook same. We aren't niggers.
>>57374342
Too true. The American cunts are literally occupying Europe with their bases and we still pretend we have any choice in what's happening.
>>57374990
It collapsed due to moral degradation and massive influx of foreign migrants who had more in common with invading barbarian hordes then classical Roman/Greek civilization
Sound familiar?
>>57373580
It would be fine and well if methods to achieve their EUdSSR weren't disgusting and bound to fail.
Look up the kalergi plan.
Multiethnic empires in Europe are proven to fail again and again.
>>57375328
Pay debts
>>57375226
I get your sentiment,but you are nuclear nation wee fucking lack nukes to be safe,funny thing cople of months ago in an old wherehouse in Zagreb some workers found 400kg of uranium,maybe Tuđman had plans
>>57374753
>it would work
if it would work they would have done it already. governments are too different. UK for the most part also values its currency
>>57373580
why does UK hate EU?
>>57373580
>Roman empire 2.0
Because 1.0 worked out so well, didn't it? Fuck off you filthy casual shit
>>57375889
>Because 1.0 worked out so well, didn't it?
It did for a thousand years.
>>57375783
I find it ironic since churchill spoke about US of Europa
>>57375921
That's because they had functioning sewer systems
>>57375963
>I find it ironic since churchill spoke about US of Europa
That's news to me tbqh.
I think the UK is afraid because if they join EU it will be just one of the provinces, and at the moment they do not have enough leverage to dictate policies like they used to.
>>57376080
1/10, try harder PooLand.
>>57375770
And US was built in a day,no civil war or something different groups of loud separatists today eh?
>>57375783
It's undemocratic. How would you feel if half of your laws were decided by people in Thailand that you didn't vote for?
And it's clear that they want to import the third world to replace the white race.
>>57375921
>>57376121
POO
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>>57373580
but you would have dick and balls hanging over your back
>>57376121
and quite vehemently saying essentially that we are gonna destroy ourselves without uniting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln4SRnt4VE0
>>57374753
youre right we need the 55 mill jews we killed, so sad.
>>57373580
Fuck off commie.
UK does not need EU and their filthy refugee terrorists.
>>57376161
>go to war with EU
have fun
>>57376188
>It's undemocratic. How would you feel if half of your laws were decided by people in Thailand that you didn't vote for?
You don't care about democracy or not, UK is not joining EU because it will have no real power then. Don't give me that BS about democracy.
You loved "undemocratic" methods when you were in power.
>>57376285
lel, so they knew they weren't going to be able to stand against USA, or USSR, they had lost the military might and hence started the covert operation to conquer Europe. Ironic, now they're the ones running away.
a European confederation based on European tradition and values would be a super power with only the USA as its equal.
In the end this is what we must do so that we can bring order and peace in this world. Be uniting and bringing our enemies to their knees.
>>57373580
we should drop the EU and balkanize to oblivion
>>57376523
DESIGNATED
>>57376474
War with EU,you missed me defending the idea of eu and saying that US and its different states didint loved each other from day one and some still dont
>>57373580
Kick us out first please and then go and unite if you want.
Fuck you, we'll keep our nationality and we don't care if we have to eat dirt.
>>57376553
Yes Belgium,thats my idea also
>>57376612
it's not that all Europeans wanted you gone, but you leftist faggots rejected it where you could
>>57376523
We are already in the EU and have been for 22 years now...
Also you should be grateful. If it wasn't for us you would still be shitting in the undesignated shitting streets.
>>57376553
Well the current system is anything but that. It destroys tradition, fails to create a single actualy european conciousness and tries to replace europeans with third world shitters just like that Kalergi faggot imagined. Fuck the EUdSSR.
>>57376720
>Also you should be grateful. If it wasn't for us you would still be shitting in the undesignated shitting streets.
This is what hanz will tell you after he dictates your policies for 150 years and loots everything.
>>57373580
>He thinks 'GDP' statistics are more important than culture, heritage and sovereignity
>>57376694
We want ourselves gone.
>>57376597
that doesnt change the fact that it would cause a civil war. i dont care if the US had a civil war i think preventing future wars is important
>>57376775
That always bugged me how come that shit is hapening when you have people like Farage bieng eu parlament and making a spectical evry other week,its not like that euroskeptic are excluded besides eu structures wil have to change when number of countries goes over 30 i think so who nows how its gonna look ik 10 years
>>57376807
before that you were just looted by the neighboring village or sultanate, Britain gave you an upgrade. A way out.
Why no Norway?
>>57373580
If the only official language is Finnish and Finnish mongol culture is the dominant culture in Europe then I agree. Otherwise more independence less EU, thanks.
>>57373580
We'd also be black and muslim with zero heritage and culture of our own allowed. No thanks.
>>57377023
Because they arnt in the EU burger
Indeed. Unfortunatly we are shackled by nationalists whi secretly deep down think they are going to become an empire again when no one is looking.
What is particularly hilarious is what is going on now.
The UK is bombing Isis
France is bombing Isis
Germany mulls some stuff with troops and stuff.
But tell the nationalists about the idea of an EU army and they start whinning. Thus ending up with the situation of a bunch of mini-armies making their own mini-campaigns with a ton of duplicated chains of command and utterly inefficient logistics.
>>57377023
They like them fish,dont wana share i dont blame them
I agree to that if something like 2nd amendment is created to ensure we can topple the regime if they become too uppity. Otherwise, EU can go fuck itself and it's bans
>>57373580
>>57373580
too bad the jews know this as well
>>57377089
I know, why?
>>57377278
>we can topple the regime if they become too uppity.
this sure worked for the US, only thing the weapons are helping is them killing themselves faster, and this is coming from someone that like guns.
>>57373580
An empire filled to the brim with shitskins.
EU not even once
>>57377390
Fish,fishing is a large portion of their economy i bilive and they whuld have to share if in eu
>>57377482
v4 rite?
The EU won't last for another decade, so who cares.
The EU is a bunch of countries with not much in common.
>>57377390
they are not retarded
>>57374321
that's good
>>57377526
They would be better off imo, yes
>>57377581
Thats just wrong pal,every eu country shares part of their history with another,most not very plesent but nontheles.
>>57377522
Oh, thought you were joking at first
>>57373580
>implying the EU has any power whatsoever
>implying the EU would ever take serious actions to do anything other than keking Europe with sandniggers
>implying adding other country's GDP to a political union makes you a larger economy
>implying trade is reliant on political union
>Federal Yurup
This is all I want.
>>57377753
nice Steyr.
>>57374421
Because it already is one.
>>57377753
Half of that would be solved with federal europe with unifying army,
>>57377673
i cant tell if this is bait
>>57377941
To do what? Do you have any idea how fucking pathetic the EU commission is?
Hate to break it to you, but the EU is not the 4th Reich nor the return of the Roman Empire.
It's a paper-thin bureaucracy that is already cracking at the seams.
>>57378071
Okay let me elaborate,take Croatia,shares the same languge gruope with every other slavic nation,shared a nation with almoast every balkan country,was in the same country as Hungarians Austrians Chez and slovaks parts of Polands and Germans,part of Croatia was under Italy for some time part was concered by French,Is Katholic with Spain French Italy..And thats just a part i dont see how you are dont see that
>>57373580
>not wanting a confederate Europe which grants more sovereignty to each states.
>>57378161
So sad that the only thing those pathetic faggots accomplished is flooding western EU with shitskins for 30 years and pussyfying a sizeable part of he populatin with cultural marxism. This must be the most ridiculous, selfdestruckting attempt to seize power in history.
>>57378161
It is a corrupt as fuck organisation whose only purpose is to descend each nation in it into communism and slavery
>>57373580
>Shits on the EU
>triple shits on the britshit
>>57378161
I agre,but your pesimisam disapoints,those are problems that can be solved man,and as poo in loo said,there is not gonna be another british empire,if you wont to affect the whole globe it will have to be thrue EU
Wow yeah an Union with Muslim lover PC subhuman Eternal Krauts and Eternal Anglos, while Swedish feminists preach about white crimes, no thank you :DDD Plus in the average German city there you have more Turkroach than in the V4 countries combined, topkek.
>>57378506
>if you wont to affect the whole globe it will have to be thrue EU
How about we stop caring about the globe and start thinking about our countries and people?
>>57378506
Why would anyone want to though?
I kinda just wanna grow potatoes and hunt moose in the countryside.
>>57377941
>europe with unifying army
America won't let you. Enjoy your NATO.
>>57375921
>It did for a thousand years.
Western Rome ceased to be good with the fall of the Juleo-Claudian dynasty
https://youtu.be/RWVgQYN37yk
>>57376844
They are. But in the end without those things we dive into endless chaos.
More importantly, Europe needs to unite to that it can become progressive together.
Eurosceptic parties, like PiS just elected in Poland, are taking us back to the Dark Ages.
First thing that PiS did after the Paris attacks? Reject all refugees from the Middle East.
The EU, united, evolves and progresses together, lead by the Commission. Apart, we return to the Dark Ages.
>>57378626
>>57378642
How that makes you any difrent than a hippie keks,dudes we must plunder and pillage to thrive and spread our infuence same as the US and fuck me if we cant do that bether than them
>>57373580
>browsing in catalog
>hover over pic
YUROS YOU MUST HELP TRUMP
>>57378609
Racist nations like Hungary do not belong in the EU.
I am glad that the European Commission condemned Hungary's racist policies.
>>57378679
There is a push its stil not taken serius we need a big bady to justifay it,and my russian friend your putin my just give the right incentive,but how to deal with with US well i am not shure,open to ideas
>>57378896
>we must plunder and pillage to thrive and spread our infuence
Who gives a crap about spreading our influence?
We have the resources, the workforce and the ability to compete on a worldwide scale.
It's not a dick waving contest with the US.
Look at the example of colonialism, which is under certain aspects similar to what you are proposing: it now gives an excuse for niggers to come here because huur we wuz oppressed by whitey.
>>57378998
You need to try harder to catch up to australian level of shitposting
>>57378896
moreover see >>57378885
In his case it is just b8, but many people think like this. Do you really want a centralized government take all the decisions for your country?
>>57378998
your are b8ing from a mile away,i hope you know thats obvius,comunisam will never be the solution,
>>57379146
No i wont both local and Federal gov.like US,And i dont have a solution for fed gov.EU president from UK i dont think french wuld aprove of that,there are kinks in my plan
>>57379051
Dude that briliant soft power make our selvs look like angels when in meantime buying whole countryis,it can be done but it must be done smart,more moderen less obvius
>>57379051
>>57379051
>>57379146
thx puɐןod you have the right idea
>wanting your country to be annexed by a larger body and become a province in a ~30 country superunion that is bound to collapse as soon as there is war or economic downturn
>wanting your political leaders to literally commit high treason and abuse their position of authority to cede control of the armed forces to foreigners
>all because you want to be part of some retarded empire/super power to compete with the powers that be without actually putting in work (raising birth rates, military investment) to do it because it would ruin the high quality of life you enjoy as a small independent country that has larger allies to protect it
>thinks artificially gluing yourselves to dozens of other countries with very different cultures and economies is a way to accomplish this
The EU schengen zone and common market are great, but European federalists are the most retarded people in existence and I wish they would stop asking people about their autistic pan-continental Yugoslavia plans and expecting different answers each time. Nobody wants it.
>>57379485
>No i wont both local and Federal gov.like US,A
And look at how much tension is there between the federal and state government in the US. It's not a perfect model, far from it.
As for your idea of "buying whole countries", it is basically a modern version of colonialism, and it gives people excuses to migrate and complain.
Think about it: why would we want to buy half of Africa? Just to have access to more resources? Now look at the repercussion: you are in charge of a bunch of lazy savages who will only whine and ask for handouts, making the whole social system collapse; as well as requesting full citizenship and the right to move and work everywhere in the union.
Is it worth it?
>>57379499
nice
Is it worth it?
>>57378679
>ivan thinks the same kikes that run the US arent behind the EU.
lol
I'm for EU, we just need to change immigration policy.
>>57379884
Ok than scrap the whole colonial idea with all that shit,than everything as statet above but Fortres Europa stile,as Trump says lets we also build a wall and let FRONTEX run wild,as for your critisicam of US style of govornance i agree,but you as pole surly ar not deluded enugh to think we can achive eutopian system
>>57380010
The US is the biggest supporters of the EU out there, I always laugh when EU supporters try to use the US as a boogeyman. All of the European countries stuck together under the same political umbrella means the President has less people to talk to or negotiate with when conducting diplomacy in Europe. It's just a matter of convenience for them. They're not scared of us, because they know that the EU trying to be anything more than a common market, open border system, and way of keeping wars from happening is a complete joke.
>>57380348
>The US is the biggest supporters of the EU out there
thank u for confirming what I just wrote.
>"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
>>57379732
Well if you brits vote no to eu in 2018 i think,than its done and we wont have to do this discusion again
>>57380314
>Ok than scrap the whole colonial idea with all that shit,than everything as statet above but Fortres Europa stile,
So basically we just need to have trade agreements between each other and a lot tougher border controls. It can be done easily, even without the communist EU to boss us around.
I'm all for cooperation aimed at creating a stronger Europe, don't get me wrong. I just dislike the EU for how it has been implemented so far
Also keep in mind that a centralized monetary policy offers very little flexibility to countries who have very different economies.
>>57379049
Europe has sold its sovereignty, it's a bit too late. Wait until US is keked I guess.
>>57380010
I have to believe in an independent Europe because otherwise it would be too sad. Fuck America and Jews. If US loses Europe, it would be good for Russia.
>>57380348
You are part right,you do know that US strongly oposes EU army,aswel Galileo GPS system witch wee are building.Ivan has a point
>>57380246
Can't effectively change immigration policy cause:
1. shitskin invasion is deeply rooted in EU policy since its conception (kalergi) as means to mongrelize europeans and distance them from their historical nations and ethnicities so that they accept the EU state
2. EU is way to much based on humanitarian bullshit pacifist principles that prevent consequent immigration deterants
Can't thrust those kikes.
>>57380715
The EU's immigration policy is decided in Western Europe, where the motto "we are all immigrants", borrowed from America, is used unironically.
>>57380620
Anybody with sense besides a few EU bureaucrats opposes an EU army. It's would new Austro-Hungarian army full of desertions, inefficiency, corruption, conflict, and language barriers (no, the average person in a non-British European military does not know English very well). Also who has the right to run the military of an entire continent? It wouldn't be Julius Caesar or Napoleon, it would probably be Merkel, Hollande, or some unelected female Scandinavian defense minister who doesn't even know how to properly fire a weapon.
>>57373580
>>57380914
Is there a posibility to offset you westren europeans?
>>57380977
How the hell does NATO function in the field than?
What if all us would unite under a political movement? like Generation identitaire?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJB-wjrGsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJB-wjrGsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJB-wjrGsM
>>57373580
>EU
>federalized
>>57373580
Who thinks this is a good idea? Fucking globalist faggots.
>>57373580
Federal EU would be a disaster.
>"Where do we put the refugees?"
>-Poland.
>"Where do we put the sweet middle eastern oil eurobux?"
>-Anywhere but Poland.
>>57381211
An alliance is not the same thing as a unified military. A unified military means combined units and central leadership. And it would have to be combined units because otherwise certain countries would suffer more battlefield losses than others (for instance, if Britain loses a division its sad but part of war, if Belgium loses a division half their military is dead).
Another glaring problem is the fact that nobody wants to fight and die for anything besides their country. If some far-off corner of Europe gets invaded by outsiders, there is not going to be patriotic European fervour and a raucous call to arms to defend it, nobody is going to care. Who wants to die for the EU flag?
>>57381522
Well i dont see a problem with firsth part of your argument since it makes sense,but the secend one is true an eurofile whuld say eu isnt mature enough to inspare people to fight for it,but then again didnt ukranians die under the eu flag just a intresting tidbit
>>57373580
I like the idea of a European Federation, but not in the form of the EU.
>>57382099
No, the Ukrainians died under their flag, they just put up an EU flag to try and get some support from the EU, the poor fools.
>>57373580
Can't wait to campaign for Leave.
Go your way Europe and I wish you well. We will look outward to the rest of the world
>>57382099
They did, EU threw them under the bus.
