>We don't have terrorist attacks
>We got guns to protect ourselves!!
Did the Americans say.
14 americans killed. Can we finally all admit that guns obviously don't do shit and their laws are retarded?
If guns don't do shit, there is no need to abolish them.
>>57368364
>some Dutch faggot cares about American gun laws
You live a very fulfilled life, don't you?
>>57368634
well except school shootings
>>57368736
by that logic /pol/ would be bretty dead
>>57368364
GUN FREE ZONE IN COMMIEFORNIA
>>57368364
Hold on anon, this attack happened in California, not America.
Last time Jihadis tried to attack a real state like Texas, they got BTFO before they even made it in the building.
>>57368364
Does owning a garden hose make you as capable of running into a burning building as a firefighter?
>>57368995
Cali is not USA?
>>57368364
Let's not ignore the real root of the problem: islam and immigration.
Guns are just a tool
>guns completely legal for 200 years
>almost no mass shootings ever recorded
>suddenly mass shootings become common after columbine and as mounting racial tensions and a shit job market create a lot of disaffected young men
>"GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM"
yeah whatever faggot
>>57368364
Or simply just ban muslims from owning a gun...
>>57368364
They attacked a bunch of disabled brain dead people.
They probably didn't even acknowledge them when they started shooting
good guns :DDDD and nice freedoms :DDDDD
>>57369449
Pesky constitution won't allow it. Fucking leftist paper
>>57368364
Jihadis are waking up to the realization that assault rifles work better for mass killings than bombs do.
>>57369449
I don't like the precedent that would set, where rights don't apply to people deemed security risks.
Of course the precedent is already set in the states by Japanese Internment in WWII.
>>57369206
This isn't fucking europe where a bunch of suits in the capital make all the rules. The american states have a degree of autonomy and that means laws are different depending on the state. Texas has lax gun laws while California, also known as Commiefornia, has some of the harshest gun laws in the US. So if anything this shows that restricting gun ownership doesn't stop anything
>>57369206
commiefornian here. commiefornia is its own republic.
we just pay the us taxes(aka protection fees) because we're too pussy to own guns ourselves.
if the retards at the Inland Regional Center had guns this wouldn't happen
>>57368364
>14 americans killed.
versus 130+
>>57369585
I also watch thunder00t
>>57369647
>>57369545
Can shops just deny them service under freedom of religion? And have it as an unwritten agreement not to sell to muslims.
>>57369647
And, we won ww2 and didnt have to deal with subversive japs, now, the worst we get is gayfag George Takei.
>>57368364
If everyone had a big ass pistols on them, would mass shootings still happen, or would the gunman be shot down immediately?
That said, I think a lot of people hold guns to too high of a standard, countries without guns don't magically have no mass murders, they still manage with sharp objects.
Mass murders are going to mass murder with whatever they can find.
>>57369457
Thought they attacked work mates not the patients
>>57369081
Yes.
Anyone can run into a burning building, its easy.
>>57368364
California has some of the strictest carry laws in the country. It's illegal just to be in public view with a firearm outside of a locked case or while not being used for hunting or target practice.
1. Commiefornia has stricter gun laws than half of Europe
2. Those terrorists shot up a Christmas party for retarded kids who have no hope of defending themselves
3. The building where it occurred is a gun free zone
>>57368364
>Commiefornia
>Having guns
Kek, great joke! Got another one?
>>57368364
There would be no shootings if there were no niggers and kids didn't grow up seeing all the white girls fucking loser wanna be gangster shitskins
>>57368763
And this wasn't a school shooting.
It was done by mudslimes in a state with extremely strict gun laws.
Fuck off retard.
>we can't surrender our guns or else the government might attack us like Hitler in ww2
And ironically it's the other way around. It's the citizens the government needs to worry about
>>57369943
>3. The building where it occurred is a gun free zone
This doesn't make sense to me. If the building was a gun free zone, then how did the terrorists get a gun in there? Didn't they see the sign?
>>57369952
I'm a californian. I have a .357. Laying right next to my pillow as i type this.
>>57369774
>14 braindead disabled killed
Ftfy
Each one is only worth 0.1 of a person.
So they only they only killed 1.4 people
>>57369922
Need to ban guns altogether and need to have id over 21 for knives and forks and under 21 can only use plastic knives and forks with adult supervision
>>57369863
Shops can deny purchases for most reasons. And while I agree that whoever is over 18 years old should be legally able to own and carry guns I still respect the right of stores to choose who to service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSVs9sC0pd8
>>57370115
Hahahahahahahahahajajajajajjajajajajajajajajajakajjaja
Fuck out of here, peasant.
Canada has better gun laws than California.
>>57370229
Only because you huys get autonuggets. We have pistols.
>>57368364
no because they could have simply brought a bomb to the party and killed everyone anyway
the problem is terrorism
>gun free zone state
>get shot anyway
LMAO
>>57370223
Don't you have a wall to be building for us?
>>57370357
>why aren't people that are prepared to commit murder following our gun laws? :(
Do anti gun people really think this or are they simply lying for social brownie points?
>>57370454
Sorry you must have me mistaken for a spic, im a Spaniard.
>>57370599
Let's say hypothetically the 2nd Amendment is abolished and guns are illegal everywhere in America.
Now, how will this be enforced?
Will the government break into homes and confiscate weapons? Will there be a laughable GUN BIN, Britain-style? Will they destroy all ammo manufacturing companies and hope everyone just runs out of bullets?
In the end, criminals will still be running around with the guns and shooting people. Liberals can't get rid of them no matter how much they whine on twitter.
>>57368995
Traitor. You're a disgrace to this country.
>>57369206
Clearly you don't have sufficient understanding of the way states in the US relate to other states and the country as a whole. This clearly invalidates your opinions on the rest of the issue, to be frank.
>>57370944
Why is he?
Isn't it understandable you guy don't like cali?
The same way I don't like London?
>>57370357
>Law abiding gun owners choose to follow the law and not carry guns in the building.
>mudslimes decide to break the law and murder a bunch of law abiding citizens who they know will be disarmed.
>Cleary it's the fault of the gun owners for choosing to follow the law.
>>57368364
Their laws,why should we even care and who are we to tell them they're wrong?
>>57370994
And that's why liberals are retarded.
They think passive aggressive signs will stop criminals.
>>57369890
You know what mate? Around here you need to have a really good reason to have a gun, and, apart from the ocasional 'husband-shoots-cheating-wife' case, I can't recall a time where there were shootings or any problem with firearms
It can be a rather cultural thing though.
Besides, mass murderers aren't mass murderers until they manage to murder masses, which gets easier with guns... No?
>>57371133
The UK once had a higher gun ownership rate than modern day USA.
We never had any problem with gun crime then either.
All of our gun laws were implemented over fears of gun crime rather than real gun crime.
Mass murders (which make up a TINY fraction of all murders) will happen regardless. Police response time will never be good enough to prevent them whatever weapon the attacker uses.
In China, one of the great police states, you get knife massacres with the same death tolls.
Should we then ban knives too?
Only professional chefs with a good reason to use a knife should own them.
Other people can use a guillotine fixed to a counter.
Or a more realistic control, as envisioned by our lawmakers, force law abiding knife users to have their knives chained to their kitchens so they can't take them out.
>>57370039
Which is precisely the way any free nation should be.
>>57371684
>>57371133
We also have gun crime rates comparable with some US states in London.
>>57368364
Guns seemed to solve to the kebab problem in California and Paris
>Be liberal commie
>Ebil automatics are banned
>Guns are for killers
>They bring guns into gun free zone with a banned gun
>lmao americans and their guns
>Forget about when they tried this in another state with guns
wew
>>57371133
Unless you close your borders and instill a culture of utter subordination to the law (Japan) gun control is basically useless. Gun laws in my country are among the strictest in the world yet everyone can just buy some smuggled in AKM, Makarov or vz. 61 for a pittance. On average there's like one violent crime committed with a legally owned gun per year from a population of ten million and yet the EU thinks us law abiding gun owners are the problem. You just can't win if you try and appease gun grabbers since they aren't logical.
>>57370861
>Now, how will this be enforced?
Realistically. Ban of sales of guns and ammo. Arrests and confiscation during car stops.
>>57372348
>What are illegal weapons
>What is smuggling
>>57371979
>Gun laws in my country are among the strictest in the world yet everyone can just buy some smuggled in AKM, Makarov or vz. 61 for a pittance.
Are you shitskin? Otherwise i dont think Ahmed will sell you a gun.
THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM :DDDDDDDDD
>>57372467
You can just ask anyone from balkan to hook you up.
Especially serbs and bosnians.
>>57368364
>protecting yourself in commiefornia
>outside of your home
>with a gun
surely you realize the irony in your post?
>>57368364
We'll be sure to arm people with disabilities next time. Sorry.
>>57372451
Things 99% of current gun owners will not gonna be involved in.
>>57372589
and that 1% will commit the gun crimes
>>57368364
>>57368364
In one of the most liberal states. Duh. Wouldn't have happened in Texas or Michigan
>>57372467
Why wouldn't they?
>Russia
That's funny since most illegal guns come from former Soviet satellite states.
>>57372658
Who cares? It doesn't matter. What matters is feeling good about what you did.
>>57372782
Top kek m8
>>57368364
I'm not sure you noticed, but California is the most (or one of the most) strict when it comes to gun control. I'm pretty sure there would be less than 14 dead if they were armed.
Why would you want to get rid of guns, even if you think that ideally people wouldn't have guns. The world is a warzone, governments hate you, they redistribute your wealth, they force open borders, arrest you for discrimination, kick you out of your home to make way for refugees...
Maybe you think guns are dangerous and you want them gone in the future, but why now? This would be like Poland getting rid of their guns just as the Germans started invading. You need to defend yourselves. Local regions are may have to start asserting control without federal permission.
>>57368364
Dude they'll never understand. This shit has been going on for decades and the frequency of it has been rising yet they still don't get it
>it's Colt, S&W, Remington, Browning etc.. keeping it that way t b h
As much as these burgerclaps think it's because of some obsolete twisted altruistic law or reason.. nope, it just isn't.
Not even close.
It's because of their money. The gun lobby is juicing these airbrushed eagle t-shirt wearing idiots and they're making tons of money hand over fist
This is what it's all about
They don't want to hear the truth
It hurts their pussy too much
>pic related
>it's /pol/ getting BTFO as usual
>>57373079
What is having a gun going to to combat all of that other than helping you go out in a blaze of niggerdom?
Police come to arrest you, what are you gonna do? Shoot at them? and you think they'll go away? No, they'll shoot you in the head.
>>57373197
>honestly believing this
o i m laffin m8
>>57373197
Gtfo of my country. You obviously are not an American. If you were youd know that the Bill of Rights are restrictions on the government, not the citizenry.
>>57368364
Australia why you use proxy?
>>57373843
>my country
TOP QuEK
>>57374316
Whats does it say on maps? America, thought so. And if you little brown fuck ever thought your balls had dropped and try and fight us for it, there will be even less mexico than we left you with last time.
>>57368364
>school shootings, any kind of mass shootings barely happen once a couple of months
>usually less than 10 people killed/injured
>in a country filled with over 300 million people
>on average, probably something less than 50 people per year being effected
312 000 000 and 50
>there are more people dying in pool accidents
>somehow this statistically insignificant thing is more important than the right of millions of americans to defend themselves with guns
I am getting pretty sick and tired of you leftists, merrilards or eurokeks. Id lock the topics related to your stupidity at this point if I had any mod powers. Serious cancer you guys are.
>>57373795
People united could do that. A small town could resist outside law enforcement.
There's a reason the death count isn't over 100. They couldn't run wherever they wanted, only hit 1 place and then ran.
>>57368364
Took place in a Gun Free Zone in a state that prevents citizens from conceal carrying and has a police force hostile to civilian gun ownership and the strongest anti-gun laws in the US.
