Why are SJWs so self assured?
>>57359986
They control the media and the universities...and through the wonderful politically correct invention known as "Human Resources", they control the workplace too
>>57359986
>editing the name out
Hello newfriend.
>I believe in debate, but only in what I deem to be reasonable
literal autism
>>57359986
liberals are experts on subjects they know nothing about.
>>57359986
Did you forget what year it is?
>Han shot first.
GREEDO A GOOD BOY DINDU NUFFIN HE TRYNA GET HIS LIFE BACK TOGETHER NEED MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMS
>>57359986
It all stems from the way they were taught about credibility and using credible sources in school, on their school papers.
They were taught to conflate credibility with truth and that's the most dangerous logical fallacy you can possibly commit.
>>57359986
Literally.
Lucas said Greedo shot first & the special edition depicts it
vote in my poll
http://strawpoll.me/6165055
>>57359986
>that french flag
problematic
Also feminism & civil rights already ran their course, what rights are not equal among every red-blooded American?
>net positives for my arbitrary notions of progress
These autists never fail to mention Jew Wars. Why is anyone even excited for it? Don't they remember just how shitty the prequels were?
>>57360526
>implying Han, a white male and therefore a murderer by definition, didn't shoot first
Why not just blame everything on illegal aliens, shitlord
>>57359986
Because Social Justice is a highly dogmatic new religion constructed by the NWO to replace the old ones.
>>57359986
they paid a bunch of shekels to learn it.
>>57359986
Pic related.
>>57359986
Because they haven't been humbled by the real world yet. All their life they have been taught by leftist public school teachers and leftist media so all they know if 'their side' of the argument.
Then they leave school and wonder why the real world isn't the colorful playroom they grew up in.
Then they seek to change the real world and are annoyed that people that don't agree with their retardation exist.
I have never seen a leftist win a single debate in defense of their ideology.
>>57359986
The Holocaust obviously happened, but there shouldn't be laws against talking about it.
>the climate change is real
>>57359986
SJWs are gaining too much attention offline. They should start in niche goeums on the internet where they belong.
Clearly this person is not interested in debate, because after any reasonable level of debate any truth should be self evident. The only reason they think they are open to it at all is because they don't adhere to logic, and their faith is absolute in whatever they were taught. You can't debate with these people until they have been deprogrammed from their indoctrination.
And sadly these people are allowed to vote.
>>57359986
Isn't this a political trick.
Asserting your view in a list things it doesn't have in common with?
I could just call it a false-flag, but there's a more concrete term for this type of bullshittery.
Confirmation bias?
>>57361252
>Stay in niche forums
Phone is secretly SJW
>>57359986
Because they're idiots.
SJWs are just contrarians
>>57360882
>>57360107
These certainly have some truth to them. What impresses me the most is their obsession with empathy. By never questioning its value, they've turned it into some sort of buzzfeeling. They never question its value even when it could be harmful.
It also helps that there are subjects dedicated to advancing these politics. Social sciences that express them in a scientific manner. History courses that apply moral sentiment to past human action. Art and Identity Studies courses using pathos to make you feel for supposedly oppress groups.
Smart people are able to say that the earth is round because the ocean visibly curves; that the holocaust was real due to overwhelming physical evidence, witness statements, and the bloody obvious opinions of Nazi leadership at the time; that climate change is a reality due to ice core samples and global weather observations; and that blacks as a group have lower IQs than baseline in most countries.
What's more, they might come to learn through argument that the world is actually a slightly squashed oval and not a perfect sphere; that some of the individual stories of supposed holocaust victims are laughably bad, and that Germany was hardly alone in causing widespread pain and death amongst civilians, but became as popularised as it did due to prominent Jewish-American public figures; that climate change models consistently overestimate the impact of climate change due to pervasive bias in the field; and that some specific groups of blacks and some specific black people are more intelligent than certain white groups and certain white people.
>>57360808
Pottery
>>57361833
the ocean has no curve you are blatantly wrong. hundreds of experiments have proven this. most famous, bedford level experiment.
>>57359986
Most of them are spoiled and sheltered college kids being supported entirely by their parents having never had to work for themselves or be out in the real world. I know because I used to be a leftist, though not a sjw. I graduated right before this sjw shit took off. Most of the sjw crowd are coming from a place of honest and sincere ignorance. With a little time they'll grow out of it.
>>57362042
Walk out your door, drive to the beach, and look at the fucking ocean for five minutes, then commit sudoku in shame.
>>57359986
idk but it sounds easy as fuck to be a leftshit
just say muh current year and everyone sucks your dick
>>57361833
>Holocaust
>real
What has become of /pol/
>>57361833
>holocaust is real
TOP KEK
>>57359986
>Open for reasonable debate
>Opposing ideas aren't reasonable
What an oxyMORON
Because delusion is great fodder for self-assurance
>>57359986
Truth does not fear investigation, if something is so obviously true than let its truth shine against criticism.
>>57359986
they're not. they just hide in echo chambers and egg each others' ignorance on
they will learn the hard way
so be it
>>57360489
Made me kek
>>57362169
Get fucked cunt, I've been here since /new/.
>>57362323
>several Nazis literally tell you they ran an extermination camp
>other Nazis are convinced and write about their disgust and shock
>"t- the- I- they were tortured"
>evidence of pogroms in Poland
>"j- just youthful high spirits, same as any soldier"
>mass graves full of corpses
>"muh typhoid fever"
>mass graves full of corpses with bullets in them
>"muh communist traitors, deserved it, better dead than red"
>Hitler's own book with multiple references about how much he hates Jews
>"muh deportation"
>aktion T4
>"fucking retards subhuman scum, Hitler would never order Jews killed though lol"
kek
>>57359986
What you consider reasonable is completely arbitrary from an objective perspective. "Reasonable" just means this idiot will move the goalposts when necessary to avoid any real dialogue i.e. any subject that might make him question his "faith". He says he likes "debate" but how can you debate if you're unwilling to talk about ideas you're opposed to?
A better argument for why some things are not worth discussing is because there's so much evidence supporting one conclusion. In other words, no matter how much you discuss the topic you will always come to the same conclusion and learn nothing.
Proposition: Earth is round.
We can prove this with multiple methods such as
>Going into space and looking from orbit.
>Going so high into the atmosphere via plane you can see the curvature of the Earth.
>Traveling in one direction until you wind up back where you started (Magellan).
Hell, Eratosthenes, a fucking ancient Greek from 100 BC, demonstrated it by comparing shadows in different locations.
What this guy is doing is a bullshit cop-out to avoid questioning dogma. Pretty sure this is a logical fallacy but I can't be arsed to look it up. (I think he's begging the question). He assumes that the conclusion has already been proven. I imagine he will refuse to look at the evidence to see if the conclusion actually is correct because he believes the conclusion is already correct. Then he'll call you a bigot as he runs off into his echo chamber.
Every argument needs to have supporting evidence no matter how obvious the correct conclusion is.
It's fucking babby's first science lesson.
>Feminism/civil-rights/"social justice" are net positive forces
>i like to whine on the internet about non-issues i will never act on irl and act as if my uneducated opinion matters for a minor self-esteem boost
my sides
>>57362508
well said
>>57359986
talk to an SJW.
They are all affluent, all young, and all sociopaths.
What do affluent millennial sociopaths want? To feel something.
SJ is a complex self-contradicting series of ideas that are acceptable, all other ideas being made unacceptable and should be punished. That white male oppressor just said "women arent oppressed" so I as an "enlightened" feel that surge of moral superiority and get to experience the thrill of calling him out and the smug superiority that comes from calling him ignorant.
Social Justice is like manners being laid out for a low-functioning autist.
>>57359986
Translation:
- I believe that there should only be discourse about what I personally view to be a "reasonable idea/philosophy".
>quick, let me deem anything that I disagree with or am personally offended by as not "worth discussing"because I already made up my mind, I am right and you are wrong.
This is pretty much this piece of trash's argument. The earth is not even "round". no, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S FLAT, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT round.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-is-not-round/
>>57359986
>Han shot first
Will you people get over Star Wars? It was just a children's movie targeted at kids to sell some toys and movie tickets. People still talking about Star Wars as more than it seems just need to grow up. You've outgrown Star Wars. It was never meant to be a lifetime obsession.
>>57359986
>what i think is reasonable, if you disagree you're wrong and ignorant
so enlightened
>>57359986
They lack an in-depth understanding of their own positions and have near to no understanding of opposing positions since they've only ever seen them mocked by their cult jesters.
>>57361252
>question marks at the ends of statements
I hate upspeak so fucking much.
>>57362657
>literally no empirical data/factual points as well other pointless bullshit
people were clearly killed, particularly by the einsatzgruppen in the east under orders from himmler, but the traditional holocaust narrative is a load of shit
you're right though, confessions begotten from beatings and family threats which yielded such statements as 3.5 million killed at auschwitz claimed by rudolph hess and blood geysers claimed by eichmann are clearly unarguably correct.
>>57363231
>the traditional holocaust narrative is a load of shit
That's a much more defensible position than "the holocaust didn't happen", and as such I'm not going to argue against it.
>>57361027
https://youtu.be/7dxsVSzL4HE
>>57361833
>holocaust was real due to overwhelming physical evidence
>overwhelming physical evidence
For some reason I am reminded of an old DC comic Hitman.
I wish I had the panel saved.
It went along the lines of
>main character sitting at bar talking with someone
>bad guy comes in
>main character has bantz with said someone
>bad guy "any last words?"
>main character "I love star wars"
>shoots through the underside of table, killing bad guy
I miss Hitman
>>57364400
The holocaust as it's presented didn't happen at all. There isn't even any documentation of the "final solution"
People died of typhus and starvation. It's likely some illegal massacres took place but there were no fucking gas chambers or three million. Likely more poles were worked to death than jews in camps.
>>57359986
They aren't. If they were then they would have no problem debating any of those topics.
Their problem is that they aren't sure of anything. Their views are incredibly weak and they know it deep down. They fear being challenged because it would force them to cope with the reality that their opinions are paper-thin.
>>57360337
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/587901038562279424
>>57365713
Oh, why am i not surprised.
>>57365713
>moviebob
Well that explains the Star Wars thing.
>>57359986
Facebook is a hug box.
Seriously deactivate it other wise you are going to see how libtarded everyone is around you.
>I have friends who are racist IRL
>On social media they are the complete opposite and join in on the hug box crap.
>>57359986
>Why are SJWs so self assured?
They're oblivious to hyper-pluralism.
>>57361162
Well, to be fair they would be right, technically. The climate does change, in both directions. Climate itself is basically a synonym for change.
However, if we're talking about the catastrophic bullshit they keep preaching, you're right.
>>57359986
Why saying this shit with out flag?
>Tfw before 11/13 those sporting this flag were the ones called fascists by the left.
Fuck you Jewkerberg!