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Hello /pol/
I don't usually come to this board but I've really been wondering. Why do you hate Hillary Clinton? Is it pure misogyny or what? Does it scare you that we're going to have a great black president and a great female president back to back?
I can see why that'd ruin your racist, bigoted outlook on life. Cya little boys.
>>57359553
Basically the most corrupt dishonest politician ever
Even Biden would be better
>>57359553
She's a bought and paid for corrupt politician who has helped cover up several of her husband's rapes. She's also committed numerous crimes
Obvious bait. That being said the fact that she's better than what the republicans have on offer speaks to how truly lost conservatives are, politically speaking, in the US
She ought to be in jail and she's running for president, she's the epitome of a ruling class snake
Hillary becoming president would be the final nail in the coffin of the US.
How retarded are you?
You don't take money from sand people shariastans and get to play the womyn card
She's a hardcore Zionist shill, lol
>>57359553
She is the most corrupt politician that is running. Dishonest, a bitch, accepts money from mudslimes, a shitty secretary of state, and she has early signs of dementia.
Any candidate would do better. Well.. besides Jeb that is.
>>57359553
Kill yourself, faggot.
Hillary is a hippy dyke, as if all the blood and shit from the kent state massacre congeeled and formed a human.
She stayed with bill not because she loves him, but because she loves power.
She is also a leftist, and as we all known leftists are indistinguishable from communists.
If you didn't like obama why would you vote for one of his advisors?
Benghazi, emails, dyke pictures, stroke, brain damage, stuttering.
Should I go on?
>>57359553
True honest answer?
SHE'S ANNOYING AS FUCK!
>>57359553
she's been involved in multiple scandals, shows no sign of leader ship, even if it's likely that it doesn't matter, she seems to have no accomplishments that she's carried herself. She cites factually incorrect information often.
Her and her husbands foreign policy has caused more blood shed than any one cares to admit.
She's seems like a terrible person, and her marriage is a fucking joke. She's the political version of the kardashians.
Something about Hillary Clinton seems very sinister
>>57359553
I don't hate Hillary, I just don't understand why I ought be excited for her when she has literally been on the wrong/losing side of single matter until the last conceivable moment.
She's against anything until being for it seems politically viable. That doesn't make her better or worse than any other career politician, but it sure as fuck means I'm not going to vote for her to be President.
This is a 9/10 imitation of a Hillary-voting smug feminist cunt. Good job, OP.
>>57359553
She couldn't be trusted with classified information when she wasn't the president, her being in power is a issue of national security.
>>57359553
So many shills in the last couple of hours.
I smell full damage control.
>>57359553
-She's a member of the wealthiest 1%--all from millions she scammed as a political puppet, scamming millions in exchange for political favors
-She's the ugly face of ugly establishment politics
-She's of, by, and for the collusion between big govt and big corp
-She's a shameless liar
-She's the most non-transparent politician in history
-She has stroke-induced brain damage
-She was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying and being unethical
-She lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary
-She lied throughout her Whitewater scandal
-She lied about taking "sniper fire" while visiting the Balkans during 90s
-She lied about Benghazi
-She lied throughout her email scandal and continues to lie about it
-She lied about being broke after leaving the White House
-She received millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs for speaking engagements
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan, and Citigroup
-She approved the sale of U.S. uranium to Russian nuclear corporations in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her "charity"
-She gave out eight Secretary of State's Awards for Corporate Excellence, and seven of them were given to corporations who donated millions to her "charity"
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from China, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Qatar, and the UAE
-She supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Turkey
-She supports illegal immigration
-She was opposed to gay marriage before, but then flipped and is now for it
-She was a lawyer who vehemently defended a rapist and who raped a 12 year old girl
>>57360814
lol'd
>>57359622
It's not like Nixon was our president or anything...
>>57359553
I know this is bait, but I want to answer honestly anway.
Clinton is Pure Politician. She chops and changes what she is for and what she is against to what is popular and what is not.
Twenty years ago she was against homosexual marriage, today she is not. Because that's where the votes are now. At least Sanders was for it from the get go.
Whether or not you agree or disagree with it, you have to have more respect for the guy who was always for it, even when it was unpopular. You have to have more respect for him, because he genuinely believes in what he stands for. Clinton stands for getting elected. She doesn't see people, she sees potential votes.
America has only two candidates worth caring about, Sanders and Trump. Because say what you will about either of them, they're honest politicians. You might think one of them is a steaming bag of dicks, or think that they're both cunts in their own unique way, but at least they're better than Corporate Shillary, or Jeb (Insert Distinguishing Feature Here) Bush.
And anyone else is so fucking irrelevant to the discussion their photos might as well be doctored to a baby's face, and be referred to as Sir Not Appearing In This Election.
>American freedom politics
Pick 1
>American
>Freedom
>Politics
Look at the candidates, if i was an americlap i would eat that double-barreled shotgun aswell, no hope at all, even obongo is better than what you gonna get.
>>57361097
Have you met our lord and savior Emperor Trump?
Complete opposite. Hillary ATTRACTS manchildren.
>>57361164
Pretty cool guy but it's just a show to give hillary more votes, blind fuck
>>57359553
lol nobody is electing an old woman, and certainly not a sick old woman like Hillary, she has far too many arrows in her back already.
>>57359553
Cathy O'Brien
>>57361323
>let me tell u about ur politics
Clean up your own mess before lecturing anyone, yurrp.
>>57361323
Oh fuck off with that /x/ tier shit.
>>57361078
Nixon wiretapped one group of democrats. The modern democrats wiretap the entire western world. Not really comparable.
>>57361093
Absolutely this, thought this for a few months now. If reptilians were real, hillary would be one. She's a fucking disgusting snake.
Sanders is a socialist pussy old geezer, and trump is a douchebag blowhard bully, but at least they are their own persons and have some sense of personal values. I mean, sanders even let himself be keked on stage for his values, and someone like Trump isn't just a replaceable mask for a billion superpac doner lobbyists.
Sanders doesn't have a chance in hell though, just like ron paul didn't.
>>57361405
>>57361420
kek you so fat, i hate you guys
>My country
Free health blabalbablabablabablal so on you know the deal.
>>57361506
No one cares about your irrelevant, kebab-infested country.
>>573>>57359622
I would honestly give biden a handjob to be president over shillery.
>>57360675
>>57360632
>>57360610
>>57360578
>>57360548
>>57360519
>>57360468
Shit, Sequoia's against Clinton?
>>57361093
I couldn't agree more. Thanks Aussie; I feel like you understand the present political situation more than most of my own countrymen.
>>57361593
You will never be based
Spilling american blood for saudi and israel, which did 9/11 and you tell me my country is kebab infested.
you so fat americlap.
>>57359553
>Why do you hate Hillary Clinton?
Because she is a globalist pawn.
She has said publically many times that she supports G-Soros and his visions for the future of our country.
She also recieved huge donations from Soros to her PAC.
That alone is reason enough that all Americans should despise her and consider her a traitor.
She also just seems so disconnected from normal people.
I can't imagine her actually caring for the average American let alone valueing our opinions.
She just reeks of a superiorty complex and disconnection from the real world.
The Clinton's are a duo, and if you think Bill is the main player you are a fool. It wasn't Bill trying to enact legislation, nor the one who did the foot work. Nor was it Bill who objected to all pieces of foreign policy which was "interfering with my domestic agenda"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RqFXJ00zlk
Bill is a Rapist. (Not Monica, 2 women while he was Governor)
Both are likely murders or knowingly culpable of it.
Both have been involved in corruption. The horrific part... it wasn't deemed to be incorrect. It was deemed to be legal.
Honestly though, the Benghazi thing is a Republican bullshit meme. Utter bullshit.
Its a shame they haven't aren't reminding everyone of the Clinton's history in power and all the shit they pulled. You know that whole gays can't marry thing? Not Bush, but the Clinton's.
The best description of them would be servants of power.
>>57361093
exactly how i feel about clinton and how i can at least respect sanders, although i vehemently disagree with him. but i would also put Rand Paul in the "honest" camp, and he's who i would rather vote for, but unfortunately he doesn't stand a chance. i would never vote for Trump on principle, but at least he's showing the absurdity of American democracy.
>>57360966
To be honest, benghazi alone makes her unfit for presidency, to say the least.
>>57359984
JEB VERSUS HILARY 2016!!!!!
>you know in your heart that it's true
>>57362074
Enjoy your Blue Pill.
>>57359553
Well, let's start
>Her voice is annoying
>She's a terrible person
>She is corrupt
>She's a liar
>She's the same as Obama (his presidency was uneventful, one plus I might add)
>She's the company choice
>She only stayed with Bill because it helped her politically
>She helped cover up a lot of government shit
>She's not very good at handling money historically
>She has the charisma of stomach ulcers
Basically she's all the terrible characteristics of politicians rolled up into one.
>>57362273
>Britkek having the cheek to call anyone bluepilled
Absolut keklich.
>>57362551
If you seriously think that Obama is terrible then you really don't know shit about the Clinton Administration of the 1990's. Isolationist swine who only got interested in foreign policy towards the end, of which Tony Blair briefed the US press that the President was going to announce action to be taken in Yugoslavia within 24 hours. He then told Clinton that the US will be getting involved in Yugoslavia, because the US press believe that they will be, and if he doesn't he'll look like a coward... compared to the British...
Also most bombings were announced to coincide and thereby distract from political dilemma's.
Obama is pretty fucking average compared to the Clinton's. The Republican's have over hyped how terrible he is. If you want real incompetency, then just wait for Clinton. Fucking hell...
>>57363042
Obama's done plenty of terrible things, don't cover for his black ass.
>vastly widened the schism between Democrats and Republicans
>forced the le ebin climate change maymay
>inflicted Obamacare upon the country
>set race relations back by decades
>completely bungled the Middle East
>allowed ISIS to balloon in power
>pissed off Russia something fierce
>practically handed over the US economy to China
>forcing the US to take kebab injections against its will
>now trying to force TPP and gun control
Fucking horrible.
>>57363042
The clinton presidency was a disaster.
Thats why most 30+ year old people will not vote for her, unless they are completely retarded
lets not forget:
>clinton sold public utilities to balance the deficit, which doubled costs just to make him look good in the midst of his scandal
>he renegotiated with boeing/lockheed tripling the costs of deployment and giving them undo control for a private company
>he bombed the middle east, then conviently received millions of dollars for the clinton foundation from the towelheads he helped after his presidency
>lied about waco
>lied about ruby ridge
>lied about monica
>raped and molested multiple women
>was already diddling little kids with jeff epstein
>signed the graham leech baily act into effect, eventually creating the 2008 economic collapse
he was garbage and shes even more corrupt than he is/was
don't worry though, despite what the media shills she has little to no support irl
>>57363357
>>forced the le ebin climate change maymay
are you forgetting that Al Gore was clintons Vp?
Clintons presidency was when the climate change meme started, and according to al gore we should all be underwater and dead right now
Not that i don't agree that obama is shit
>bombs 5 countries
>wins nobel peace prize
>>57363625
I'm aware of that but Obama is REALLY going out of his way to force it. Back in the Al Gore days we were all laughing at and shrugging it off.
the clinton's--both of them-- are to criminality what Alexander the Great was the military conquest-- it just doesn't seem possible they got that far without getting killed by someone close or an enemy.
Even the Secret Service hate her so much it's considered punishment to work for her. HEr closest aides have come out in books and admitted that no one was allowed to talk to or make eye contact with her as she walked down the hall of the White house. She's an evil person and a dangerous person. Far more dangerous than Obama bc he at least seems to know what he doesn't know.
She thinks that bc her scumbag husband was president, she gets to use a non-encrypted email server to send and receive state secrets, and NO ONE would stand up to her.
I guess if you're a negro more interested in "rap" this doesn't matter to you, but it leaves people open to...not only state secrets, if personal information that could be used by agents of a foreign power for blackmail. and you can bet your ass it has been already.
>>57359553
God this is the worst bait I've ever seen.
Sad that she might actually win using the tactic of "what are you sexist or something!?!"
>>57361078
>its okay to have corrupt politicians
Do you know how stupid you are?
>>57359553
>I don't usually come to this board
>>57359553
The day that Hillary Clinton said that women are the true victims of war when it is men who are conscripted and sent to die is the day she lost the last shred of credibility she had.
>>57363042
No, I was saying his presidency was uneventful, which is a good thing, and I'm also saying that due to her awful qualities hers is going to be uneventful as well. Either that or a complete disaster. I'm hoping for the second one so I have an excuse to move to Russia.
>>57364217
>Ugh, that was terrible. Yeah, sure, I'd much rather be a soldier in the cold rain after being forced like a slave to go to war inside trenches than a woman inside a warm house far away from war baking a pie after a long day of riveting.
>>57363042
Gotta agree with this, Obama has been stepping up his game lately though. He's been trying to incubate a planet of the apes style scenario on american streets.
Both Hillary and Obama could literally (not using that word in the ironic reddit way; I mean LITERALLY) could, and should be tried for treason and hanged as is the law.
>>57359553
She is americas Merkel.
>>57359748
I don't think any of you keks has a word in American politics
>DUDE
>2015
>>57364217
Well if we look at total casualties of war, soldiers are actually in minority but the way she said it was absolutely retarded.
>>57363357
>vastly widened the schism between Democrats and Republicans
Clinton's, 90's. Short term memory. This Schism has existed for a long time and the only way the Clinton's got around it was to pass bills that the Republicans wrote and then edited it slightly.
>forced the le ebin climate change maymay
Won't contest.
>inflicted Obamacare upon the country
The amount of money that your country pays for healthcare, from the Government paying for private healthcare, of citizens who cannot afford to pay, results in them spending more as a % than any other civilized country. It was a poor attempt to fix the crisis, first proposed by Bob Dole, in 1996 when he was running against Clinton for President. Shit system, but its better than nothing for those who are alive and has lowered many prescription costs.
>set race relations back by decades
Yes, because he has control over the police forces of the States, as well as pressure groups who are campaigning.
>completely bungled the Middle East
Oh shoo
>>57358459
Its been on fire for 100 years and will continue to be for a long while yet.
I agree that pulling out of Iraq was symbolic nonsense, however the US could do nothing in the face of Iraqi ghost Battalions, which didn't exist. Invading Syria wouldn't have improved anything, though I agree giving them weapons has made EVERYTHING WORSE. That said there is much more at stake than stability.
The Iran deal is a good deal, with the only caveat being that sanctions are removed before the first inspections begin. This was so the economic effect will be felt so that hopefully the current (more)Liberal Iranian party stays in power. They are inspected and the amount of Uranium they can enrich isn't research grade, let alone weapons grade.
>>57363357
>>57364556
>allowed ISIS to balloon in power
Allowed? No one could have predicted ISIS, happening in the Middle East in the way it did. No one. If you can find a source that says in clear terms that desperate groups would merge into a single organisation in the Syrian conflict in 2012 then post it and I'll eat humble pie, as well as listening to what they have to say.
>pissed off Russia something fierce
Whereas the Republicans want to maintain lovely cordial relations with Russia don't they?
>practically handed over the US economy to China
...you think that was Obama? So... what, thousands of factories producing everything that we own weren't around, being produced at lower costs since I was a toddler and able to read made in China through my see through plastic animal cup...? (I'm 22) Nice to know my milk was a hallucinogenic.
>forcing the US to take kebab injections against its will
The States that agree are letting them in, the States that are saying fuck off aren't having any. Charities can volunteer to allow them in, but at the same time Republicans have then removed state funding for all Charities that propose to do such. Hardly forcing.
>now trying to force TPP and gun control
All forcing of gun control has failed. Again, the States have enacted more gun control than Obama. The States have their own legislators and Governors who did that.
TPP, completely agree.
I agree with, 1 thing you said, and partially with another 2(being that I don't think they're necessarily bad).
>>57361078
Wasn't Hillary dismissed from the Watergate committee for unethical behavior?
>>57359553
If you think President Obama is a great president then you're literally too stupid to understand any explanation as to why Hillary is a terrible idea.
>>57359553
hillary scares everyone
>>57361078
>we had one corrupt president in the past
>corruption is no longer a factor in electing a president
are you retarded?
>>57359553
>Obama
>real GDP growth of -.43
>somehow considered a good president
Sorry Libs he fucking sucked and now you're not going to have a president for a long time.
Who gives a shit about the stupid emails
>>57364556
>>57364620
>Yes, because he has control over the police forces of the States, as well as pressure groups who are campaigning.
Are you fucking kidding me? Obama has been throwing gasoline on the fire ever since Zimmerman. "Obama's son" isn't just some /pol/ meme.
>completely bungled the Middle East
Yes, go ask Libya and Iraq on how they're doing. He's trying to do the same exact shit to Syria.
>Allowed? No one could have predicted ISIS
The Pentagon leaked papers that warned the administration that an ISIS-like group would take form in 2012. There is absolutely no fucking excuse and Obama's reluctance to actually strike ISIS is very telling about how he feels on the matter.
>Whereas the Republicans want to maintain lovely cordial relations with Russia don't they?
B-BUT THE REPUBLICANS is not an answer. I'm tired of hearing this shit.
>The States that agree are letting them in, the States that are saying fuck off aren't having any.
Have you been paying attention?
"The Obama administration warned states over the Syrian refugee crisis Wednesday, telling them in a letter they do not have legal authority to refuse the refugees, and states that do not comply may be subject to enforcement action."
>All forcing of gun control has failed.
He hasn't even started yet. Obama has made it clear his last year in office will be focused on gun control.
Now stop this damage control, it's fucking embarrassing.
>>57361436
>The modern democrats wiretap the entire western world.
Unlike Bush with his illegal war on Irak based on his lies about mass destruction weapons and Saddam hidding/helping Ben Laden even if the two never had any connection. Yep. Totally fight for freedom, not for petrol, and look how everyone is happy now in Irak! It's sure good to send your soldiers be killed for nothing when you will never be judged for lying to the people!
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/
Eh, I guess a democrat president having a blowjob is worst and deserved a trial.
>>57365178
>Irak
I'm onto you, Ahmed.
>>57363534
I decided to watch Christopher Hitchens on C-Span. All of them. Its very informative if you pay attention as you acclimatize yourself to the political reality that was being discussed YEARS AGO, as if it was happening today. I understand that raging Anti-Clinton is a novelty for anyone not old enough to remember them. I mean they oversaw the fucking tech boom. Look at it. Productivity skyrocketed, and people were squeezed more and more while corporations deregulated themselves, and 6 years(because he did shit in the last 2) of foreign policy planning just went to waste. Allowed a Genocide to happen too. The impeachment was a joke given what he'd done, vs what he was impeached for doing... oh, lied about a blowjob... woo. An utterly hollow victory.
There is 1 major issue I personally have though... Trump VS Hillary, Trump would win.
But the best candidate for actually reforming the corrupt system will go to waste if he doesn't manage to beat her for the Candidacy. Personally I believe its much more important that Democrats reject her, Democratic registered voters, as well, rather than in the Presidential Election.
>>57363625
*ahem*
>wins Nobel peace prize
>bombs 5 countries
Fixed. Its this detail that makes it funny. The incompetency of awarding that prize is just fucking glaring. Even he felt guilty taking it, and he's a narcissist.
Op posted and left
Sage
>>57365000
lol
people who die because those emails are supposed to be secret and she is too dense to understand that a normal email server is not secure enough for state secrets
>and that's why they have government email servers that are protected
so not only did she not follow protocol with state secrets, she also lied about it, and then tried to hide the evidence
that is criminal
the last thing we need is another criminal in the white house
i have never voted conservative republican before, but i would rather follow Trump than serve under Hillary
>>57360814
Some serious dsl
>>57365001
>Words
Woo lad. Strong argument.
>Libya
The UK, was the main pusher for Libya. Obama initiated the attack with 112 cruise missiles launched simultaneously, mainly because of Cameron's pushing (we don't have that kinda capacity, because the pig fucker scrapped half our navy prematurely). We then took over, fucked the country up and left it to its fate.
>The Pentagon leaked papers
I believe I said if you can link it? I'm waiting.
If you can produce then as I said, I'll eat humble pie.
>Republican's
Politics occurs within a sphere of acceptable options which a leader can take. Taking it on the chin, or bending over and taking it from Russia would have risked Obama plummeting from power faster as the Republicans on the other end would have taken up the big man macho stance and called him weak.
What is your criticism of Obama then? He exactly did he do wrong, and how would have you avoided it? Unless you suggest something then your arguing an imaginary hypothetical that no one else can see.
>Migrants
Texas. They've given no funding and refuse to take them, as it stands there is no way around this.
As far as enforcement action goes, that would go up to the Supreme Court. The principle being contested would be, do International Treaties supersede the rights of the States? (the answer is no)
>Guns
He can't pass an executive action as this would get canned immediately.
It would require a legislative change. Good luck with that.
If anything is passed, I cannot imagine it would be anything more than background checks, and closing the gun show loophole. I cannot imagine the Republicans being such pussies with complete domination of the legislators to just allow him to suggest legislation to them.
I'd rate Obama's Presidency as a flat average performance. Complete meh, stick to the Status Quo.
>>57360276
>nothing whatsoever
Come on, at least make it believable ; with such hyperbolic expressions, it sounds like sarcasm
>>57359553
>Hillary scares manchildren
Of course she does - she scares everybody!
>>57366778
>Words
Yes, words. The President's words have a lot of weight and to argue they don't is fucking idiotic.
>The UK
The UK is not a leader, it is a follower. This may come as surprising to you.
>If you can produce then as I said, I'll eat humble pie.
Get your fork.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aDciHCejA
>He exactly did he do wrong, and how would have you avoided it?
First thing, to stop this completely bullshit attempt to topple Assad and then make efforts to remove ISIS permanently. Instead the US is meddling in the ME for no legitimate reason (hurr assad is a meanie!!1 is 100% nonsense) and demonizing Russia for merely protecting its longtime ally.
I do not buy into this notion of barging into countries and forcing democracy on people who do not give a shit about western values. America has too many internal problems to worry about "liberating" some kebab on the other side of the world.
Doesn't she show early signs of Alzheimers? You bet one should be scared by have an alzheimer president.
>>57367644
>UK
The US preformed few air operations in Libya and left most of the fighting to the British and the French, leaving the theater soon after the conflict began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Odyssey_Dawn
13 days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ellamy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Harmattan
A lot more done.
Europe was the main pusher for this one because we had gripes with Libya, as well as the French needing a distraction.
>Fork
First off try linking the source:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/
Secondly, I'm searching for the actual source, as there is nothing in particular that would allude to the fact that a state could be formed in Syria. A State hasn't formed in Libya and a parellel would have been drawn between the two. Still searching, will link the document when found.
>Liberating
pfft. We're going after the oil. Not even to steal it but to influence the flow of the oil infrastructure in order to foster our own advantages.
US Russia relations would still be shit due to the Ukraine. And this was in fact what most of the sanctions were enforced on Russia for... but sure address the other theater. The first proposal is completely sensible, and I would agree. Drop the Assad nonsense, that was a pipe dream at best.
>Democracy
First
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk-zAnosyrk
I linked this before, and I'll link it again.
>>57358459
Pipeline Geopolitics. The Democracy gig id a fucking facade to fool the plebs into making them believe that soldiers lives are worth the actions they are being sent towards. Soldiers are professionals who kill destroy or support stuff while being shot at. If they don't like it, don't join the army. The obligation an army has to its soldiers is only that it doesn't put them in unnecessary, or negligent situations where they will die needlessly.
>>57369069
>we're going after the oil
Of course, but the story fed to the masses is that these dictators need to be stopped because they're bad.
My point is that the ME meddling is unjustified and proving to be more of a hassle than its worth (except to those profiting from it like Clinton)
Obama is complicit with it just like the others. Whether he is the puppet master means little, he still allows it to happen.
>>57359553
Outstanding work Troll Faggot! well done!
>>57361303
>Calling Thatcher evil
She was the best thing to ever happen to Britain and brits know it. Moviebob should go back to playing with his ponies and shit
>>57369404
Having the Iraqi Oil fields pumping again halved the price of oil. I wouldn't underestimate the effectiveness of controlling the flow of oil.
The justification is pure Machiavellianism that if you don't old the power, someone else will, and they will hold it over you.
The question should be is the fight worth the effort? Rather than is it justified? The Fight to remove Assad is, we agree retarded. Fighting, however over the prospect of increased Kurdish regional power, and the loss of power in all countries with Kurdish land would massively benefit the US. Also the problem has now been created and we need to look at destroying the ISIS forces. For a time, the US bombing wasn't too serious and more defensive, whereas now the first target of the French was the Oil Fields, because this will hurt them massively.
Right. Found the cunting Document.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf
The opening points of the General Summary are massively understated and wouldn't bat an eyelid from me.
AQI, ie Al-Qaeda are stated to be familiar with the region at an operational level, as well as being part and parcel for the foundation of the Rebels. Well... there's one fucking huge red flag.
Al Nusra is mentioned managing to "Operate" In hind sight that's stupidly vague, in several major cities.
Border tribes may join, along with call for war, bla bla. This is common.
Statement of the obvious.
They then outline the borders stating its mostly Sunni tribes, Red Flag, Allied forces used to encircle the border guards. Here is displayed the exact troop count guarding the border, and redacted is likely the at War troop count. 3 Brigades for 600 miles. Of whom some may have been Marching on Paper...
>>57359553
Why do I hate the woman who supported the attacks that made Syria and Libya into fucking hellholes full of ISIS terrorists?
Geez, I don't know.
>wanting someone who was literally NTR'd as president
>>57359553
Because if there is on thing I cannot stand it is a liar. She has flipped flopped on everything she has said to gain more votes, everything she does is pre planned (she went to a college to meet "real Americans", all of whom were preselected and had scripts), etc. I hate her. Hell, I respect the kek Sanders more, he might be a beta kek, but he is a beta kek with his own fucking views.
>>57369404
>>57372233
NOW THIS IS UNFORGIVABLE:
Prediction, the Regime will survive. That's moronic and suicidal to then spout out bullshit about removing the cunt from power if you have a good idea that he's not budging
Proxy War confirmed. No Secret there. Both sides divide their forces in area's for long term grind of attrition,ie Syrian supply lines. And sympathetically they foresaw a similar situation to Libya. This is pretty much the most sympathetic statement to my view so far. Its their best hypothesis
Turkey fund ISIS? Who'd have thought
Borders not guarded by Officials may be a threat
...But they don't stop there
"IF THE SITUATION UNRAVELS THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA" and... as if this wasn't enough of a fucking hint "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS WANT"
And to be fair to the Document, though this threat is grave, they put all emphasis on the conflict dragging in only those from the region, rather than eluding to any sort of long distance migration from other countries to this Caliphate
"DECLARE AN ISLAMIC STATE ... IN IRAQ AND SYRIA"
Well fuck
To contrast the report with what happened, the Worst Case Scenario occurred, and it occurred very clearly as they predicted, though more successful at occupying the territories in Iraq than anyone had ever thought possible
The two Area's where the report doesn't predict what happens, is with the massive global recruitment drive(that's just frankly impossible to predict). The other understatement is that they do affirm that the most likely scenario is a Libya scenario where everything falls to shit and it just turns into one giant proxy war
Fucking hell this is one giant meta kerfuffle
And this is why I bother with these threads. If your wrong and you meet the right person you can actually torture out exactly how your wrong.(It took fucking ages to find in the search system the site has)
I Completely concede the point
>>57372587
And Clinton will be a continuation of that bullshit.
Trump is the only way out of this mess.
>>57361303
Every line in this is wrong except for "bugger"
