Why aren't you a based liberal, /pol/?
>>57350066
>abolition of slavery
lol
>>57350066
Fuck off i like guns
At least half of those are patently false.
If liberalism is so great, why do you have to lie every damn time you try and make a point?
>>57350066
>>57350066
90% of those are either wrong, or Liberal ideas themselves.
>>57350919
This 100 fucking percent!
The constant twisting and bending of reality would not be needed if their shit was have as good as they claim.
>>57350066
>implying winning means that you are/were right; morally, politically, economically, or by any other way
>implying
>>57350066
I hate how words formerly full of meaning like "Conservative" and "Liberal" have just been turned into huge, vague blanket categories that get used as buzzwords.
>>57351532
welcome to the 21st century desu
>>57351532
Liberals actually believe shit like "conservative means you just support the status quo".
>>57350066
LoL you crack me up
On just one point:
More Republicans voted for the Civil Rights bill then Democrats. And the Republicans that voted against it did so because they wanted the law passed at a state, not federal, level. The democrats voted against it because, well, they were all segregationist.
>>57353161
Once upon a time, there were a lot of liberal republicans.
There were conservative democrats.
It is not that way anymore.
So your statement shows a lack of historical understanding.
The document does NOT say Republicans vs Democrats.
It says conservative vs liberal.
It's a difference in ideologies NOT political parties.
>>57353161
It's interesting how Americans always think in terms of Democrats and Republicans instead of actual political affiliation like left/right, progressive/conservative etc.
You guys desperately need more parties.
>>57350066
Defending is inherently a losing position. It doesnt matter how many times you win defending because they only have to win once on offense.
Most of the things "liberals" stood for do not have much to do with liberalism.
>>57350066
>liberal
Exactly, liberal. Not progressive marxist.
>>57354050
The republicans of the 1950s were investigating Hollywood for communists, blacklisting leftist sympathizers, supported capital punishment for suspected spies like Julius and Ethel rosenberg, supported Joseph McCarthy in investigating leftist sympathizers in government positions, supporting UK and French colonialism, supported south Africa and rhodesia, violently overthrowing left wing governments, sometimes democratically elected, supported right wing strongmen like Peron, advocated using nuclear weapons in Korea and Vietnam, I can go on.
Those were the same senators and reps that voted for the civil rights acts.
>>57350066
>If you define Conservative as "someone who dislikes change" and liberal as "someone who wants any change whatsoever", all change is heralded by the people who want change.
Wow, its fucking nothing. The "liberals" of today would be viewed as filthy degenerates by the liberals of the 1960s who would be viewed as champagne socialists by the liberals of the 1800s who would be viewed as authoritarian assholes by the liberals of the 1700s.
>>57350066
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2009/01/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified.html
>>57350066
>thinks any revolutionary war era person would put up with the liberal bullshit of today
>rest is a product of tyranny by majority thanks to the 14th, 15th, 17th and 19th amendments
>>57350066
This black/white thinking demonstrates your ignorance. You are a liberal because you want to live in a perpetual childhood with no consequences. That being said, the Tories (or conservatives as you put it) were a regressive political party. What you don't understand is those same oligarchs came back under communism.
>>57350919
They don't consciously know they are lying. thats the thing.
They are so brainwashed and indoctrinated, they don't know simple logic and reasoning from right and wrong.
>>57350066
>going along with it until gay rights
This is why I can't do liberalism anymore. Promoting homosexuality is wrong.
>>57350066
I'm half and half
