You rage you lose?
Fuck you Kyle. Get out of Scotland ya SNP spaz
>>57308464
I though Britain was lost
Turns out that there is hope after all
>>57308464
Haha nah I'm having a fucking field day laughing at all the butthurt lefties on facebook
>>57309519
You can be right wing and think wasting resources on Syria is a bad idea too.
>>57308464
Tornado GR4?
I thought Typhoon FGR4 were 100% Air-to-Ground capable, at least our Typhoon are.
>>57308464
based Nimo
>>57309876
>destroying isis is wasting resources
>>57309876
Sure, but everything I see is
>muh poor muslims
>evil corrupt government
>racist government
>cameron is hitler
and so on
lets use surprise parties and gifts instead
>>57308464
>vote to go to war
>illegal
This is as legal as it gets.
RICHARD THE LIONHEARTED WHEN
https://soundcloud.com/spectator1828/hilary-benns-rousing-speech-in-favour-of-syrian-airstrikes
>>57310348
Everyone else is doing that for us, retard. The destruction of ISIS is not solely reliant on the supreme might of the British armed forces.
>>57310421
Regardless of whether or not we bomb, we need to be resistant to Islam and ISIS at home but thanks to decades of leftard moral relativism, people have little idea of what our values are/should be. People need a huge kick in the arse to get them into gear.
>>57310348
It is when you helped create it.
It's an illegal war.
>>57308464
What's wrong with being against western interventionism? Are you CIA?
>>57308464
bombing IS is pointless. expect they are actually bombing France and Belgium.
>>57308464
We bombed them for a while and they were still the same size.
Bombs empower them.
>>57308464
>>57310348
>this retard thinks his governmnet wasn't in on the plan to create isis to topple assad
holy fuck lol /pol/ really is bluepilled isn't it?
These pieces of shit would have us lie down and spread our arsecheeks for the shitskin bastards for the sake of appeasing and not offending them.
>Yeah bomb them
Well, what the fuck else should we do? Do you have a better idea? Do you want to do it Corbyn's way and talk to a bunch of fanatical retards and make them see the error of their ways?
>>57310508
It's not really. It's still considered an invasion of Syria, which is illegal. Assad didn't give permission to fly sorties in Syria, nor does GB have a UN mandate.
>bomb them and they become more radical
>let them in by the droves and they radicalize the area
Ain't no winning.
erry tiem
>>57308464
I love this argument that, if we attack them without instantly exterminating them, they'll fight back, therefore we should do nothing. How do these people make it through traffic -- oh wait these guys all rely on public transportation and decisionmaking isn't for them. I see.
>>57311029
>Well, what the fuck else should we do?
step 1: massive ground operations in the middle east. occupy everything with massive manpower
step 2: occupy for 500 years
step 3: release them in peace if they can manage it
>>57311067
Wasn't there a UN resolution literally like just recently?
>>57310110
They're are but haven't received integration of Brimstone missiles we want to use.
Currently, Typhoon can only drop Paveway bombs (Paveway II and IV) and no other A2G munitions so are less flexible than Tornado
>>57309876
1 or 2 nukes isn't much resources mate.
>>57311241
Mod program begins in the next two week FYI.
>>57308464
They're not entirely wrong though and I'd rather our army do the job they're doing in Syria or Iraq here in France where we are completely infested by vermin. Also, seeing how we're still helping 'moderate' rebels and trying to remove Assad, I seriously don't want either France or UK and especially not the US anywhere in Syria. We're only there to do the dirty work for the Gulf monarchies.
>>57308464
>A woman starts running the Lad Bible
>It becomes yet another lefty mouthpiece
These poor plebs don't even realise they're being played like a fiddle.
>>57311181
Desision making isn't for you if you use a car.
>>57308464
>Hendry
Scottish lad once again confirming they're a race of leftist keks
>>57309876
This. The situation in Syria is of the West's making (including Britain, France, Israel and USA ,etc.)
Now they're going to send troops to fight the Frankenstein that they created in the first place. While they bring in more rapeuguees and spy on your internet and install more surveillance to control you at home.
>>57309876
the only reason it is a waste of resources is because we aren't using big enough bombs, we need to get the price of a dead mudshit down to at least £10 / kill
>>57308464
>Killiing ISIS will make people join ISIS
WHAT IS THE REASONING HERE
I DON'T UNDERSTAND
>>57311228
No, that was just a statement that something needs to be done. It wasn't a specific resolution which would have allowed GB (or every other NATO country) to bomb in Syria.
>>57311663
>>57311324
Not going to happen though. Hence close the borders and let the slavs handle it.
>>57311342
But they'll take months to integrate and get pilots qualified to use them - each pilot has to to have taken a training package on recognising and identifying ground targets and conducted a bunch of live firings within the past 12 months to be permitted to use air-to-ground ordnance.
It's the same reason they weren't allowed to self-designate targets for their Paweways with the Litening laser pod in Libya
>>57308464
The are partly right though. Obomba and parts of NATO has said multiple times (since Russia went into Syria with planes). That the plane-"tactic" doesn't work at all, it only strengthens IS because more and more mudslimes get frustrated over time.
So yeah...
>>57311067
>assad did not give us permission to invade therefore we shouldn't
This is actually about hitting IS.
what a joke the UK has become lmao
>people actually against bombing ISIS
>Be in RAF.
>Have leftie friends for some stupid reason.
>"Oh yeahy! War!"
We have been at was for years you stupid cunt! All this is is acknowledging it and fighting back!
>"I thought we lived in a democracy!"
>397 to 223
We do you stupid fucks! This is how it fucking works!
what's wrong with leaving our forces at home, to defend the country from Terrorists?
I just don't understand why we have to go there... sure that makes us more vulnerable to ISIS attacks, because now people are just going to be focusing on Syria.
>>57311159
>i was weapon trained in england
Sure sure.
>>57312652
>sending a few planes
>we're defenseless!
>>57312240
What do you think they've been doing the last 12 months? The OCU squadron at Coningsby has been evaluating and training for Meteor, Brimstone & Stormshadow on Typhoon.
At current rates, the Typhoon will take over from Tornado full time from 2017 with integration taking place up until that point.
>>57312944
TES not OCU sorry.
>>57310348
ISIS is working for Mossad and USA.
40 G20 countries caught funding and supplying ISIS
You goyim really think this war is about ideology?
Lmao.
>>57312877
yeah, that's what they're saying now... but later they will continue sending more and more out...
I mean, from what I know there have hardly been any terrorist threats to the UK since 7/11...
>>57311784
It said "whatever needs to be done". Which includes bombing
>>57312652
I would rather the fight happened over there than here, jsut sitting back and waiting will bring the fight to us quicker. Hitting them at their heart will make them rush to defend it.
>>57313146
Dave prevented 3 alone this morning m8
>>57312546
and in which country does IS operate and who is still considered the head of this country?
You can't just invade Syria, that's not how it works. You can only invade it, if you have the permission from the UN or if you're acting in self defense.
>>57313323
Yeah but.. nothing is happening here... The only way something will happen here will be because THEY are here...
>>57312617
>Aussies not bombing ISIS
You're one to talk, Steve.
>>57312617
Every country has them Bruce, the majority want strikes against IS. Don't let the few hundred standing in front of Parliament and the lefty Twatter mobs fool you
>>57313222
Any military agression has to be specifically authorized by the UN. That was not the case.
That was just a general statement that they condemn the attacks in Paris carried out by ISIS.
AY MANG LMAO
>>57311324
it's a lot of human resources
for the japanese at least
>>57313585
we have been bombing them since september
>RAAF Hornet strike jets will target Islamic State training camps and command centres in eastern Syria when they begin cross border bombing missions from Iraq within days.
>Australia has undertaken its first successful airstrikes in eastern Syria against Islamic State targets
>>57311159
What a stupid bitch. She would have tried to disarm him and fumbled the gun.
>>57313475
Their main centre is currently in syria. Or are you out of the loop. And I didnt say anything about ivading, just bombing the shit out of their strongholds. And you don;t need the UN permission to invade, you can ignore them easily. As for acting in self defense, if attacks happening in your country are shown to have been coordinated in another then you have the right to attack.
You seem to think the UN matters, its just a collection of tinpots.
>>57313831
SEND
HELP
>daily reminder Cameron said that Ramadan is a british tradition
They are going to bomb some buildings to show they are the good guys, but "refugees" are going to your country, and you are going to be forced to accept it. He also said multiculturalism is a failure, but also did Swede, Merkel and the jew of Sarkozy, but look what are they doing!
Don't trust that shit.
>>57310807
Bane?
>>57313493
SO the government should just allow a few of these plots into fruition then. I am sure you think MI5 are making the plots up anyway.
>illegal war
What keked up liberal thought of this phrase?
>>57310807
>>57314456
You don't get to bomb Syrians
>>57314150
>guarana antartica
THIS HAPPENED HERE
AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY FORINERS THINK WE ARE SAVAGES!!!!!
>>57313831
lost
>>57314150
Poor girl is going to die in childbirth.
That depresses me.
>>57314925
>Poor girl is going to die in childbirth.
Not necessarily
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
>>57314527
Well no, I'm not dumb, I mean I don't know everything, and if any military / secret service say they stopped a threat in our country then good job!
But we don't need to extend it by sendings planes to Syria... there is literally zero point to this at all. And nothing anyone says will make me see differently.
You're literally just sending people to risk their lives just to bomb a few little huts and then claiming it's to defend our country.
We can literally just sit back, let everyone else get along with it, while we just look after our own.
How many times has any country succeeded in wiping out terrorism? Zero... because it keeps fucking happening.
Lmao Cameron is a literal Saudi shill and you faggots are eating this shit up. If you think the 7 Tornadoes are gonna contribute to the defeat of ISIS you're actually retarded. Your entire media consists of paid shills. It's the only way I can believe these people spout this drivel. I don't see what else it can be.
Read some of these Telegraph articles (by Con Coughlin), for example. Read these and tell me with a straight face this man's pockets aren't being lined with sweet, sweet, Arab oil money.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11931884/Now-is-not-the-time-for-Britain-to-annoy-Saudi-Arabia.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11929624/Cancelling-the-Saudi-prison-contract-is-a-victory-for-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-Isil.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12001862/Heres-a-comprehensive-strategy-for-defeating-Isil.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/12013896/The-Russians-had-it-coming-to-them.html
>>57314150
omg NO
>>57310889
i really can't believe people are actually like that, i refuse to believe.
if that happened to anyone that i know i wouldn't be able to keep a straight face while being in the same room
>>57315224
>there is literally zero point to this at all.
LOL!
>>57310348
You've got plenty of brown people you should be killing on your own land. No need to fly to other countries to kill theirs.
>>57308464
Haha that Nimo guy is such a fucktard.
Muh wellfare state!!!
Lots of the budgets of West and North European countries already goes to welfare and shit. Defense budgets have been decreased almost everywhere in Europe the last 60 years.
People are so fucking dependant on the government nowadays. Litterary a bunch of useless fucks needing their monthly allowance by the governement to be able to survive.
>>57313105
40 G20 Countries?
What the fuck am i reading!
>>57315571
Nice to know you can greentext.
>>57314393
Their main centre is in Mossul, Iraq. Even it wasn't, it still wouldn't matter. Raqqa is part of the Syrian State, look it up on a map. Throwing bombs on a sovereign nation is considered an invasion, you don't need ground troop for that.
As for self defense, ISIS isn't acting in Assad's name thus their actions can't be attributed to him or Syria. Resolution 3314 clarifies what is considered an aggression: "The sending by or on behalf of a State of armed bands, groups, irregulars or mercenaries, which carry out acts of armed force against another State of such gravity as to amount to the acts listed above, or its substantial involvement therein."
This is not the case with ISIS. In conclusion article 51 of th UN charta does not apply and any foreign involvement in Syria (except for Russia's) is ilegal.
Yep, just seen this posted on kekbook.
I am the blue guy btw
>>57316071
>CHECHNYA BE LIKE MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN MOSCOW NAWMSAYIN
>>57316071
>all that caps lock
Lol
>>57316071
>BET YOU WOULD VOTE FOR PUTIN AS WELL
probably would desu
>>57314527
The plots are coming into fruition on your home soil m8. Your couple of Tornadoes won't make a difference. Worry about the cancer at home before you pretend to deal with it overseas.
>British don't want to waste the money it takes to bomb brown people in the desert
i share your pain. our fucktarded career politicians have run up trillions of dollars onto the taxpayer to bomb brown people in the desert because the billionaire jews and arabs who bankroll their political careers demanded it
>>57310889
>I developed erectile a few weeks after the relationship opened.
Holy fuck, my sides
>>57316071
lol he mad
>>57311159
I'm sure if she tried he'd have dropped her like a bad habit.
Fucking soft bodied, soft minded people don't get it.
This is the only time when I go on kikebook.
>THIS ISN'T WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS REEEEEEEEEE
>LISTEN TO US SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES WE ARE RIGHT STOP TRIGGERING ME DAVE
Fucking love it, all these butthurt leftie tears, happened after the election too.
>>57310670
Britain can, believe it or not, make a huge impact. We have the best and most accurate missiles, accurate to 2 metres.
>>57316906
>defacing historic works of art
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>57317301
2 metres on the ground or on a world map?
>>57316492
I would vote for Putin before most of our politicians, that's for goddamn sure.
If he wants to immigrate, I'll vote for him for Senate, no problem.
>>57316071
thats anti-rage
pretty hilarious
>account locked for disagreeing with too many lefties, even though I didn't say anything inflammatory
>not getting verification code
ebin twitter
>>57311159
Triggered.
>>57317301
>£105,000/unit
not for long lmao
>>57317259
You are literally bluepilled if you support Hard Lad Dave
>>57316071
Kek'd. All-out caps mode.
The irony with people saying you don't fight fire with fire is that you actually use explosives to stop an oil fire. Poet.
>>57316071
link plz?
I want to tear into this bitch
So what exactly do these hippies want us to do about IS then?
WATCH YOUR TONGUE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IF YOU LIVE IN SCOTLAND OR ANY LIBERAL COMMUNITIES
I RECOMMEND THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS FOR THE COMING DAYS UNTIL THE SHAME TRAIN IS GONE
#notallscots
>>57317684
I support Nigel over Dave (voted for Nigel in the election)
But I prefer Dave to fucking Jeremy.
>>57308464
There's nothing worse than this new trend of Lefty Patriotism.
God just make it stop.
>yfw they will be scrapping the glorious tornado in 2019 and replacing it with american trash
Its been fun Italian and German bros
>>57317436
2 metres on the ground - he said most accurate for a reason.
It's just a shame the weapons they're attached to are shit, but our laser tracking is top class.
>>57313831
I feel dead inside now.
>>57316906
holy fuck, tits aside, all of them are ugly as fuck!
Why is it only the ugly ones call themselves feminists?
>>57318828
Because they're desperate for a shag.
>>57316492
Putin>Cameron anyday
>>57318439
Afghanistan seems like it's more than 2 metres away from Iraq
[cult intensifies]
>>57318218
At least Jeremy has the balls to stand against it, even if it's for the wrong reasons. Intervention in the Middle East does not work as we've seen so clearly over the last 15 years so why must you blindly march to war again? (I know your contribution won't make much of a difference but this is setting a horrible precedent).
It's very clear Cameron is another puppet like Blair. He refuses to acknowledge the Islamic cancer at home and continues to do Washington's/Riyadh's bidding at the cost of British tax pounds and potentially lives. Any sane person can see supporting Assad is the only way to truly defeat this. Anything else is acting on the behalf of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
>>57319316
>at least he has the balls ... for the wrong reasons
>>57310889
>A little over weight but in good shape
Stopped reading right there
>abandon plans to topple assad
>cooperate with the syrian army to cut off isis supply and smuggling routes
>use bombings as a method to enforce containment
>isis runs out of money and supplies
>has nothing to offer prospective recruits but hardship and death
>eventually dies like a flame without oxygen
>we all agree to never again arm and train mudslime extremists
How about it, lads?
>>57319750
Saudi Arabia wouldn't like this fám.
>>57315813
Typical Aussie shitposting. How is this a surprise?
>>57319231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahA9S-f2Vlg
Serious question - Are the MP's that voted against this motion 'Terrorist Sympathizers'?
I'm inclined to believe Dianne Abbott's line of reasoning is 'We iz white dey is black'
There were a lot of people protesting in Manchester today.
key moment in this new NATO campaign is no cooperation with Russia or SAF
This is the start of ww3, expenct nukes next week fools
>>57320396
Sounds pretty average
>>57320360
Comrade Corbyn had to interrupt the session because it was that time of the day to roll out the ol' prayer rug
>>57310348
>not seizing saudi assets in the UK
>not shutting down faith schools and backstreet mosques
IS is just a front
The real enemy has already claimed its stake on our streets.
>>57308464
Kek, people don't want another war..there's no money, morale of troops low, fucking Christ democracy is such a fucking shit system. Democracy is going to get us all killed
Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki will only prolong the war and create more Kamikazee fighters!
Serious question to people who back Cameron - why?
>>57320396
about 1000, not many
also Manchester is one big whingeathon
>>57320788
best of a bad bunch
except Farage, but he doesnt stand a chance of having any power
>>57320788
muh democracy m8. people are useful fucking sheep and forever will be
>>57320788
>Serious question to people who back Cameron - why?
What's the alternative, lad? Chairman Corbyn?
>>57311509
Fuck, that one actually made me mad.
>>57321121
>>57321214
>>57320788
I meant Cameron's vote lads, sorry.
>>57321510
>>57319750
>we all agree to never again arm and train mudslime extremists
I wouldn't count on it.
>>57317301
>implying the sandniggers won't sprinkle the bodies of dead kids all around the crater no matter where the missile hits
>>57320499
I know if the nukes fly I will likely end up dead, but something about those mushroom clouds is just so fucking appealing. I would love to see them popping off in the distance
>>57321824
That would be all well and good if it was the genuine intention. We both know the root evil lies in Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and until that is addressed this is completely and utterly futile at the very least.
>>57322119
same desu fampai
>>57313105
>40 G20 countries
>that flag
Everything is normal In /pol/land
>>57321824
farage hitchens / 10
Fucking weeaboos.
>>57312944
Noooo, not the tornado! I don't want to live to see the day they retire the tonka.
would love to think we would work with russia and remove kebab for real, but we all know somehow one of our jets will get shot down with a s400 and hence nato can truly enter and begin ww3. thanks obongo
>>57308464
How about you bomb the Hadjis who are the actual threat? You know like the ones invading your countries and raping your women...?
Oh but that would actually fix the problem, so let's just obliterate some random shitskins half a world away.
I fucking hate the people who rule us.
>>57322768
why does this make you rage
it's just somebody weebing out on their own time in their own space, not bothering anyone
sure it's cringeworthy but it's not rageworthy
>>57322119
the spooky part about nukes is not dying
the spooky part is that some of these fucking japs managed to survive very close to GZ.
That was a 15 kiloton nukes, some Russian ICBM mounted nukes are 550 kiloton or 20 megaton to name a few. the radius where the people will be toasted but will not die will be disastrous
>>57323350
weeb detected
go cry into your body pillow faggot
>>57316071
Oh god, this wanker's essentially a far-right conspiracy tars who votes labour. The Devil's own work.
>>57310889
KÜCK
>>57323458
autist detected
go infringe on other people's rights faggot
>>57322768
gibs me dat
>>57322887
I share your feelings, but its been 40 years and she's gone out in one hell of show.
Now we get Tornados raining down Brimstone, Paveway and Meteors. I feel that's a suitable replacement.
>>57315398
Damn those are vile
>>57318423
I bet they'll end up binning the Typhoon and keeping the Tonka, with the Lightning taking over from the Typhoon. Because we won't want to spend the money to replace the Tornado.
>>57310778
>illegal war
i bet youre one of those there are no borders for countries faggots
>>57323565
>strokes it to japanese cartoons
oh yeah, i'm the autist here
>>57316071
red guy's first name is Muhummad, isn't it?
anyone notice the lad bible becoming more political?
its got a wide audience of young people, so it makes sense that they're probably being paid to promote left wing propaganda
>>57308464
Did those FUCKING SCOTS vote for the bombing?
>>57323977
>implying I do
>implying you don't
get out fagtron
>>57324009
Thats a fairly neutral post though
>>57323453
Oh god think of the mushroom cloud
Im sweating with excitement
>>57324173
>implying i do
>implying you don't
get out nerd
>>57324255
You DO realize the Tornados will get shot down the moment they attack anybody thats Hezbollah or SAA/NDF
>>57324276
>mirroring my argument
stop stealing my tactics you fucking pleb
>>57320788
Better dead than red. I'll never vote labour, after Blair's lies, Brown's financial ineptitude and Corbyn being Corbyn. I grew up with Labour, my mum has voted labour before, and as a result I feel horrified by leftie moronicism.
>>57324429
>using an argument that easy to mirror
lol learn2debate faggot
>>57319316
>Intervention in the Middle East does not work as we've seen so clearly over the last 15 years so why must you blindly march to war again?
Intervention worked perfectly fine.
Do you want to know why we're back now? Do you want to know why Afghanistan is still a shit hole and why Iraq is a failed state being taken over by ISIS?
Because spineless centrist government caved to the leftist pressure groups who said we shouldn't be there.
We aren't fighting ISIS because we went into Iraq, we're fighting ISIS because we left.
The job never got done because the "pacifists" wanted us to leave the religious warlords to fill the power vacuum as long as it wasn't "white imperialists" trying to rebuild the local government.
>>57318197
Touché coulé !
>>57324569
you did it first dork
>>57324574
What's the long term plan for intervention here? Cameron hasn't put anything on the table other than 70,000 moderate saints.
>>57324673
did not!
>>57310889
>if your happiness is dependent on your spouse it's a bad thing
This is so fucking stupid. Pretty much everyone in a stable loving relationship bases their happiness off their spouse. That's the point! They make you happier than anyone else in the world, and losing them would make you sad.
How delusional does someone have to be to believe deriving your happiness from being with your spouse is somehow a bad thing.
That's not what codependence is. Not even close.
How sad of a life do you have to live to tell someone that it's wrong for them to base their happiness off of their spouse? How awful must that person's relationship with their SO be to make it where they cannot understand that that's perfectly normal to base your happiness off your spouse.
>>57311029
Well, Britain could have started off by NOT FUCKING UP THE MIDDLE EAST POST COLONIALISM.
And as more recently, by not fucking funding and propping up ISIS as a means of destabilizing the region to both get access to the oil pipelines and to hamper Russia's strategic goals in the region.
But now, let's just secretly throw tax dollars at them, and then turn around and get more tax money to bomb them and cause further problems in an already volatile region.
You know, for a board that claims to be "REDPILLED", you sure all are lacking in a sense of realpolitk and fall blindly for ideology and propaganda just like the stupid lefties you all hate.
>>57323695
Christ, the B-52 was designed in '47 (I think). Besides, my dad worked on the auto-pilot when he worked for Marconi in the 70's.
>>57324574
>Because spineless centrist government caved to the leftist pressure groups who said we shouldn't be there.
BULLSHIT. The USA never wanted to win there in the first place. The use of islamic terrorists to enact social change is the latest jewish weapon that the puppet masters in washington are using to change the middle east.
>>57311509
That one's pretty good.
>>57324731
did too
anyways I'm done shitposting, have a wonderful evening anon
>>57318018
>I'm against war
>So I'll gladly let the enemy roll over me and pretend it's peace because it's only war when you fight back
>>57324751
>Well, Britain could have started off by NOT FUCKING UP THE MIDDLE EAST POST COLONIALISM.
Islam has been trying to conquer Europe for 1400 fucking years, Ahmed. The only time that region was remotely stable is when the Mongols were running the show.
People need to read their history and realize that this has been an ideological war ever since that schizophrenic pedophile Muhammad stumbled out of his sand cave.
>>57324751
surely you will be banned, you know, since we are JUST LIKE LE THE SAME AS LEFTIES
>>57324723
>>57324574
I do agree with you btw, I should have been clearer. Western-style intervention doesn't work. You either do it or don't. Half measures in the form of fucking shit and getting the fuck out only make things 100x worse.
>>57319231
What I don't get is, why do they have to make up shit?
Why say "Ze" when "They" works perfectly fine?
It sounde retarded, but just use they, don't force your fucking special snowflake complex on everyone else thanks
>>57324751
Middle East fucked it self upm everyone loves to go on about muh expolitation when talking about colonialism but really the natives should have been smarter cutting deals with a group of people they had no previous contact with
never lose never choose to
>>57320788
I'd back Sharia Dave over Chairman Corbyn for the moment because he's the better devil of the two, but Farage got my vote in the election.
>>57322768
God i fucking love it.
>#SyriaVote
Are you guys seriously in favour of Western governments bombing Syria? You are aware that the end goal here is to remove Assad, right?
>>57324815
The Vulcan was designed in the 40s with her first flight in 52. Crazy huh?
>>57325003
The fuck are you talking about? First off, the Mongols were one of the primary reasons Islam fell off so hard.
Before the sack of Baghdad in the 1200's, Islam was in a fucking GOLDEN AGE and was a world center of arts and science and innovation.
I realize this isn't /his/, so actually reading up on what happened in the past isn't necessarily required here, but goddamn it sure would help prevent you from talking out your ass.
And the "ideological war" doesn't fucking matter to anyone with actual power in this country or in the ME. Ideologies hardly matter in most wars other than to rile people like you up to the leader's cause.
>>57325126
What are you even talking about? Did you even read what I posted?
>>57324574
Aha. You think Iraq and Afghanistan were rousing successes?
Door to door raids on unsuspecting Arab men, women and children. Forced containment camps. Over a million dead from collateral damage and counting.
Afghani tribes barely even fucking recognise national borders. We just inserted ourselves into various multi-ethnic tribal conflicts, armed mercenaries and radicalised moderate Muslims through indiscriminate slaughter and you think we were on the onset of creating a liberal democratic utopia if we'd stayed for 5-10 more years? If anyone truly believes this is some noble venture for democracy you're a moron of the highest order.
>>57323722
That's only the beginning. There are articles like those everyday but Con Coughlin was the most blatant shill I've seen. You also have bullshit from the likes of Boris Johnson and William Hague.
The Telegraph is the only English paper I read, and that's because of the commenters desu. Their actual articles are a disgrace.
>>57325554
I used to think UKIP were a >meme party but they honestly are the only option. Has he voiced his opinion on Syrian intervention btw? The media have buried him since the election.
>>57311508
When will this sado-masochistic self hatred end? Suicide bombers arn't detonating themselves in crowded places to voice anger at western foreign policy, they are waging a fucking holy war.
>>57325771
My dad me a story once about him as a kid playing in the local park when this flew over. Back then it would have been like seeing a fucking alien spaceship or something
>>57325765
The Americans are already bombing ISIS in Syria. This is a big deal out of nothing. Also you do appear to know fuck all about anything.
>>57325780
>Before the sack of Baghdad in the 1200's, Islam was in a fucking GOLDEN AGE and was a world center of arts and science and innovation.
And it had invaded Europe before this point. I realize that you're a Muzzie piece of shit so just kill yourself.
Muhammad is literally a pedophile and a genocidal warlord who beheaded anyone who looked at him the wrong way.
>>57313839
Top kek! You actually believe UN authorization means anything. Especially for a permanent security council member.
The UN holds no power. They're basically just saying "we told them they could do that" to try and trick idiots into believing that they somehow had the power to authorize it. The country conducting the operation would've done so anyway.
The most the UN would do is wag their finger. They can't even sanction the UK because the UK has auto veto power on the security council.
None of the bullshit the UN passes is binding. Countries choose to follow it, but the whole reason the UN was able to be formed in the first place is because they neutered it where the powerful countries wouldn't be bound by it or give up any of their power.
The second the UN tries anything real against the UK, US, or France the UK US and France would pull out of the UN along with all their NATO allies and every other country would leave the UN because it'll just be the China and Russia bully show.
No one cares if the big bad UN says something is illegal. The "illegality" of it is just stupid. It's war. You don't fucking ask permission.
>>57308464
The first comment is pretty true, though.
>>57326318
>ISIS wants us to bomb them!
What kind of mental midgetry is this
>>57311509
Let's hope the republication of "mein kampf" changes this picture.
>>57315080
South and central America are pretty well represented among the youngest.
That poor girl who was raped by her father
>>57326248
But they could write a letter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TEvacFETvM
>>57308464
Yeah we should just "kill all the terrorists" with "bombs" like that's gonna work! I propose we all sit down and have a critical feelings intervention with Muslim radicals, and then do a series of silent protests with the hash tag #Beardsnotbombs. That'll show em!
>>57326058
So why do we need to help them? It's pretty clear that the West has no interest in getting rid of ISIS, because Putin made more progress in a few weeks than the US did in months. I can't believe that people on /pol/ of all places are in favour of the Neocon foreign policy; after all we've seen so far in that shithole of a region, you still haven't learned. If you're only supporting this because it pisses lefties off you're nothing but a contrarian.
>>57325185
>Half measures in the form of fucking shit and getting the fuck out only make things 100x worse.
Spot on.
Unfortunately I don't think there is a long term plan. Honestly I think this reaction is out of proportion honestly: this is nothing like Iraq at all. All Sharia Dave has done is extend the border of the current theatre of operations for airstrikes from Iraq into Syria because ISIS don't recognise the border between the two.
This move is 100% posturing
>>57325935
>you think we were on the onset of creating a liberal democratic utopia if we'd stayed for 5-10 more years?
I think fucking colonising the place would have been better than bombing it back to whatever the stone age considered the stone age and going "Oh, sorry chaps, actually we've decided we should have never come here, but good luck defending yourself against predatory religious warlords"
>>57326427
>bomb Syria
>ruin more lives
>ISIS arrives in and gives them a way out
Not much gymnastics involved here.
>>57314150
Gtfo, go to /b/, this content is not allowed here
>>57326427
If I was waging a war in the middle of territory that was "neutral", I'd hope to have bombs dropped and civilians senselessly slaughtered. There'd be a lot more people behind my "cause".
>>57326709
Dave just wants to be seen as a hard lad in front of his Eton #mates
>>57325771
I know, absolutely wonderful stuff. We need to get the Vulcan Mk.2 going.
>>57326750
>"Oh shit a fucking metal bird flying faster than sound dropped lightning on our house and blew it up"
>"Better join the bearded men with kalashnikovs they were trying to hit in the first place, surely this is the safe option"
>>57326318
It's very true. You know, I recommend /pol/ to read the book "The Accidental Guerrilla" - it covers why and how America and the west has more or less struggled with asymmetrical warfare in the ME and beyond and how to combat terrorism.
Ironically I got it from a recommendation on this board, but it doesn't seem like anyone here reads.
>>57326427
Think about it. What do we hear about when the west bombs or attacks anything in the ME? Civilians are hurt, infrastructure destroyed and the region is thrown into chaos. What does this lead to? People getting angry with the aggressors, who in this case they will see as the west. ISIS ranks then begin to swell because people then see them not as terrorist scum, but fucking heroes and saviors, or at the very least, a semblance of order against western aggression.
Most of the fighters the US encountered in Iraq and Afghanistan after 2004 were tribes and peoples who didn't follow Al Quaida or the Taliban, but allied with them anyway to preserve themselves from the west.
>>57311159
not to mention, that's a cop
>>57327094
>oh no there goes my livelihood
>at least I can earn a wage with ISIS
>>57312649
>Be in RAF.
Evening Lance, how's life in the Raf Reg?
>>57327230
>oh no there goes my livelihood
>do I join walking target practice or do I go to Europe to collect my free money
>>57327094
It's not unreasonable to suggest that men who've lost their families would join the only group able to give them the opportunity for revenge
>>57326702
You are a sanctimonious scottish cunt and you aren't sentient due to fetal alcohol syndrome.
>>57310348
we've been bombing ISIS for over a year and a half now, what have we actually accomplished?
>>57326709
Well seeing as colonisation isn't an option what does that leave us with? Permanent military occupation or leaving the population to fend against predatory religious warlords. You're really selling Western-style military intervention to me. Maybe we should have learnt from our intervention in Iran or the other various times we've left a power vacuum that gets filled by extremist ideologies.
>>57311159
>I would have disarmed this dude
There's a good reason that guy is in a holster with a wrap around it. So fuckheads like you don't attempt that shit. Second you start manhandling his waist he'll turn around and fuck you over.
>Partially trained
I'm assuming she thinks knowing that the trigger fires off the bullet means being 'partially trained'. I wonder if she even knows how to take it off the safety trigger.
>>57327392
But these are peaceful moderate Muslims.
Surely western intervention wouldn't drive them into the arms of dangerous extremists who pervert the name of Islam!
>>57327365
>my family has been killed by these foreign devils
>hmmm maybe I can go to their country and get my revenge while pocketing free money
I'm sure you can see no matter what the result it doesn't end well for us
>>57316627
The cancer will be all yours living amongst the pervasive radiation of your new glass desert.
>>57308464
They're right. ISIS hasnt much support of average muslim, but with West killing their people they'll eventually support ISIS. Maybe they would even create a true state.
Also, only cowards attack from air
>>57327435
Quality response mate
>>57327461
Senpai, assuming you're going with "Western-style military intervention as >go in >wreck shit >leave" then this is what I've been arguing against the whole time.
>>57314150
moar?
>>57324389
>France hates nonwhite people
lmao
>>57308464
>m...maybe if we leave them alone and allow them to consolidate their power they wont continue to follow in the footsteps of the prophet Mohamed, b..blessed be his name
top kek
>>57327879
I think the UK is being chemtrailed thrice-daily with aerosolized gaycum.
>>57327602
>>57327614
>Hairtrigger sanity of "peaceful moderates" flips shit into "join ISIS" due to Western intervention in Iraq
>Gets shown up for what it really is, escalates
>Brings the war closer
You just convinced me this is a good idea
>>57320788
because, fuck everyone else except farage
>>57327614
>Brazil
>Talking about anything military
When you upgraded from your mud hut barracks and semi automatic stick and stick, go get some fucking advice from argentina.
>>57327879
ISIS has clearly support of west and Israel. Thats Keep the muslim sight out of Palestine and help US to usurp the government of the rightfull president of Syria.
>>57311509
Can a kraut translate?
>>57328329
He is right, you know. We have no right to criticize the UK. At least we have a shitty WW2 aircraft carrier
>>57316071
>GENOCIDAVE
