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>America has yet another mass shooting
>This is at least the fourth this year alone
>There hasn't been a single mass shooting in Australia in 19 years since, surprise surprise, guns were banned

When will Americans learn that their system simply isn't working? It isn't about muh freedoms, it's about the fact that the founding father's didn't contemplate "arms" as automatic weapons that could do more damage than an entire battalion of soldiers in their time.

Having a single-shot, powder charge rifle that required training to use is completely different than an automatic rifle that keeps firing the entire 30 rounds as long as your finger is held down, or a semi automatic pistol that you can conceal in your pant leg and take out 15 people with before you even need to reload.

Why can't Americans grasp this fact? Will they still be advocating the right to bear arms in 300 years when you have hand held rail guns?
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>giving up your right to bear arms because some retard with a double digit IQ managed to shoot some people not even on the Australian mainland
Man Australia really is the most c u c k e d nation on earth
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>>57303278

No but you have Abos stabbing 8 children to death. Get the fuck out of here.
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>>57303278
From my cold dead hands.
COLD DEAD HANDS
You want my guns, come and take them.
See what happens.
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>>57303278
>mass shooting
>20 dead
>every year tens of thousands are murdered
>mass shooting
>politically relevant.
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>Monash University shooting - In October 2002, Huan Yun Xiang, a student, shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five.

>2011 Hectorville siege - A mass shooting that took place on Friday, April 29, 2011, in Hectorville, South Australia. It began after a 39-year-old male, Donato Anthony Corbo, went on a shooting rampage, killing three people and wounding a child and two police officers, before being arrested by Special Operations police after an eight-hour siege.
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God gave us the right to bear arms, do you really want to deny God's will?
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Polite sage
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MONASH MASSACRE
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>>57303278
Fuck off you Victorian shitposter.
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>>57303805
>You shall sell your possessions and purchase a sword
>government says swords are banned
God > Government
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>>57303604

Your gun will be taken and you'll be thrown in ass-fuck prison, if not straight away shot to pieces by the fucking pigs, is what happens.

The "M-MUH COL DED HENDS" is my favorite thing to hear by idiots like you. You think your pissy little collection is going to do anything against trained US operatives in the event of an armed (might not happen in the first place though) seizure? You're going to be Swiss fucking cheese before your fat rolls even have the chance to jiggle from the impact, baby.
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>>57303278

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.

Go fuck a kangaroo and cry about how Australians let their nanny state treasonous government take all their guns away.

Fucking pussies.
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>>san bernadino

the problem is mexicans
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>>57303913

Beat me to it. I was just going to ask OP to post charts tracking rape and violent crime :^)
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>>57303278

If I ship you a couple jerrycans of petrol to huff will you leave us alone?
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>>57303278
Keep it up faggot and we will have a mass shooting in your country you weak bitch pussy faggot.
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australians can't handle responsibility, hence why they need laws 'protecting' them.

Similar to children. Must really suck not being free.
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>>57303278
Stay keked
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>>57303913
Correlation doesn't equal causation.
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>>57303278
>America has yet another mass shooting

It was Moose Slimes.

>it's about the fact that the founding father's didn't contemplate "arms" as automatic weapons that could do more damage than an entire battalion of soldiers in their time.

pic
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>>57303278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4
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Of course there hasn't been any mass shootings since gun control passed, the government is the one doing the mass shootings in the first place so they have a reason to ban guns, once they got what they wanted they didn't have a reason to keep doing them.
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There have been only two killings in the last 80 years with automatic guns in USA.
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>>57304126

>leftists dreaming of mass murder
>again

You people really should be institutionalized.
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>>57304798
* legally detained
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>>57303278
>>America has yet another mass shooting
>>This is at least the fourth this year alone

I had BBC on for the last couple of hours (because it's the only English language channel in my hotel) and a while ago they said there were like 290 (two hundred ninety) mass shootings in the US in 2015 so far.

This is according to a definition of "mass shooting" as one in which due to use of guns 4 or more people get killed or wounded.

It probably includes gang shootings which no one gives a shit about, but it puts things in perspective.
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Go back to Reddit please.

firearm related homicides in Australia was on a decline well before the happening in '96.

You cannot compare Australian law with American. It is written in to their constitution. Whereas in Australia Howard just needed more votes.

The issue is with the betas and mentally ill in America. I do not support stripping citizens of firearms, but I do support making sure those trying to obtain legally are level headed and have no serious criminal convictions. Drink driving charge isn't grounds to block someones access.

I wish we were a bit more like NZ with their laws. I'd love to own an AR so I can finally shoot a 3 gun comp. However my designated sporting pistols and large mix of longarms will have to do now.
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>>57303278
You've had multiple mass killings with arson since the ban. Eat shit.
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>>57303278
>America has yet another mass shooting
>This is at least the fourth this year alone
>There hasn't been a single mass shooting in Mexico in 19 years since, surprise surprise, guns were banned.

OH FUCKING WAIT

>OK Brazil then?

AH NO.

>Glorious Multicultural South Africa?

NO.
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>>57304816
>posted on July 4th
triggered
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>>57303278
>This is at least the fourth this year alone

closer to 304th
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>>57305125
Media is a fucking cancer.
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>>57305185

Nigger shootings don't count.
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>>57305002
they're just sniffing the grass you biggot
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>>57303278
Tfw friend in Switzerland is forced to open carry a gun. Crime literally nonexistent
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>"it's been 19 years"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis
How about them gun laws, Australia?

>inb4 but it frequently happens less here
So you admittedly say that it does occurs and not impossible for you not to get shot by a mass shooter in your cunt?


The likelyhood of being a victim of a mass-shooting here is very statistically low. Being fearing fearful in both countries circumstances is irrational, and you're grasping for insignificant differences in numbers that are objectively minor in percentage differences, all to push a political point.
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>>57303278
We need our guns to defend ourselves from emus.
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>>57303278
Whether you like guns or not, this is not about making America safe it's about these traitorous cunts attempting to remove the Bill of Rights.
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>>57305430
Same here. pic related.
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France's gun laws didn't save them
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>>57305597
>posting the edited version
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>>57305590
Implying everyone constantly armed would prevent mass shootings
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>>57305521
>Heavily armed Switzerland.
>Almost zero crime Switzerland.

Nah I would rather be as safe as Mexico, a Liberal Utopia free of guns.
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>>57304816

But when rights actually carry out those mass murders, it's okay, right? You dipshits can talk about mental issues all you want as long as you avoid the fact that it's a two-part problem. As long as stricter regulations do not exist, mentally unstable pieces of trash will always be able to grab the nearest piece and go to town.

>dreaming
>actually describing the reality
>misses the point
>institutionalized

Don't worry, kid, you'll understand one day when you're older. You might even stop regurgitating the political diarrhea your parents shit down your throat.
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Australia pop.: 23.13 M

US pop.:318.9M

I WONDER WHY MORE INCIDENTS OF SUCH THINGS OCCUR IN PLACES WITH OVER 10x THE POPULATION
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>>57303278
>This is at least the fourth this year alone

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/01/2015-274-days-294-mass-shootings-hundreds-dead/
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Yeah I much prefer being a sitting duck in my own home..
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>>57305771
Implying it doesn't
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>>57305590

what is the purpose of linking the sydney siege?

He literally only killed one person. Cops killed the other person in the shootout
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i literally don't give a fuck. i don't live in a city or near niggers. my chance of getting shot in a mass shooting is nearly none
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>>57305125

More like this. Also sauce?
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>thinking I'm going to be upset that people in California are dying
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When you take guns away, the only people left with them are the government and criminals. Plus, civilians become more easy to control.

Yes, there aren't as much mass shootings with guns... but there are other weapons people use. Getting rid of guns isn't going to do shit about the fact that people kill other people. It's ridiculously naive.

Your little scenario about taking out 15 people... you're implying that those 15 people have no defense (guns). Of course they'll be easy kills. If 3 of them had weapons to shut down the shooter, then they won't be an easy kill, and lives could be saved.
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>>57304433
Cos Americans are so responsible. Another day, another shooting. And this isn't even counting the unreported gang shootings
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>>57305771
>Implying everyone constantly armed would prevent mass shootings
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>>57304711
So why ban guns?
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>>57305861
you should be safe in your basement neet friend.
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>>57303722
He gets it. If there are more murders per say, in a country without guns than a country with guns, what's the fucking point other than something to argue and complain about?
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>>57305825

And bordering a drug cartel shithole
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>>57305814
>But when rights actually carry out those mass murders

You are a fucking retard
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Illegal guns remain illegal regardless how the law is
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"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the 'Russian Revolution.' It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators."
~~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Russian dissident, author and Nobel Prize Winner. Read his books "The Gulag Archipelago II", “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” and "200 Years Together"
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>>57303278
the flaw in your argument is that our 2nd ammendment rights have nothing to do with personal protection of our person and property, our 2nd ammendment right was created because our founding fathers knew better than to trust a government so they created a right that allows us to be able to rebel and overthrow a tyrannical government. i doubt you care about history but history proves that you can control an unarmed population much easier (its why the tyrants always disarm you before they abuse you) as long as americans have guns there wont be any tyrannical abuse of americans (except niggers but nobody likes those fucking monkeys) because an abusive official will become a dead official faster than you can say "shots fired shots fired"
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>>57303278
>automatic rifle that keeps firing the entire 30 rounds as long as your finger is held down, or a semi automatic pistol that you can conceal in your pant leg and take out 15 people with before you even need to reload.
How come your talking about things you don't know anything about? I don't rant online about how kangaroos should be hunted.
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>>57305771
Never been a mass shooting at a gun show
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>>57303278
Fuck off.

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

I refuse to give into hysteria. This entire generation is just one big emotional hysterical fucking train wreck.
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>>57303278
Learn to read statistics, Convict. Your shitty country saw an increase in gun crime after the ban. America's violent crime and homicide are still dropping like a stone, and have been since the late 80s. This is the death throes of the liberal gun-confiscation movement. Your way was tried, and it failed. Utterly. Complete humiliation. The fact that California has had more of these mass shootings than Texas is really just icing on the cake.

You will never take our rights, and I will buy a new gun every Tuesday from now until the sun burns out in the sky, and you have NO fucking way of stopping me, and if any of you ever try, I will get in a van and hand my SKS collection out to random niggers on the street in Compton long before you faggots get the chance to round up my arms.
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San Bernardino is an empty desert shithole with nothing but a Amazon shipping center and some spics. I live in the same county and I avoid going there at all costs. It's not like it happened somewhere important.
https://youtu.be/5iIX0WhGQHA
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It's not even the guns that are the problem somehow americans have a gene different from the rest of the world they are fucked up mentally more then any other country.
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>>57305825
You forgot to count the huge amount of niggers you have
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>>57306674

Kangaroos ARE hunted. We eat them.
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>>57306420

>m-muh racism
>m-muh sexism
>m-muh exceptions
>m-muh #notallwhitemen

Not so fun when you're on the end of the strawman is it? Simpering fucking invalid. It'll be a joyous day when this era of dying backwards-thinking scum is just another dusty BTFO page in our country's history.
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>>57306833
>America's violent crime and homicide are still dropping like a stone, and have been since the late 80s
1994. We're about at half the violent crime rate we were in 1994, still dropping too.

>You will never take our rights
Of course not, he's Australian.
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>>57304126
>You think your pissy little collection is going to do anything against trained US operatives in the event of an armed (might not happen in the first place though) seizure?
>not knowing the number of armed trained civilians, a reasonable percentage of which are ex-mil.
It's like you look into a mirror in the morning and say "how could I possibly be more stupid today?" And then turn on your computer.
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>>57306156

>Implying people won't protect themselves in a mass shooting.

It's not about preventing mass shootings. it's survival of the fittest and protecting your own life.
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But fellow shitposter, it happened in California and California has even kekier gun laws than we do.

Oh and for the record, only east coast city faggots actually pay attention to federal gun laws in Australia. Like every other person in SA/WA owns a gun, most of them illegal by federal standards, and nobody gets shot.
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>>57307502

Your tears of impotent frustration are delicious.
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>>57305607
she looks comfy tho, look, that gentleman is convering her with a little bedsheet, nice people still exist
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>>57303538
this tbhfampai
>>57303722
and this
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>>57303278
The same people who spread this #NotAllMuslims bullshit are the same people who think all gun owners are dangerous and crazy.

They think a conceal carry permit holder will just randomly pull his or her gun in a heated argument and shoot, because Rachel Madcow told them so.

They think semi-auto rifles are the same as fully auto rifles.

They think .50 bmg is scary.

They think the "shoulder thing that goes up" is a barrel shroud.

They think that an 80% lowers are "... A ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30 cal clip, to disperse 30 bullets in half a second. 30 magazine clip, in half a second" (Kevin De Leon)

Maybe if our legislators weren't entirely full of shit, and we didn't know any better, we'd be like you. But we aren't. You kangaroo-fucking faggot.
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>>57308424

I don't know much about guns but sixty rounds in a second sounds a little unrealistic.
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>>57303722
Occasional mass shootings are a national tragedy.

Daily murders are par for the course.
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>>57308976
>I don't know much about guns
back to tumblr
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>>57309282

Triggered
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>>57307502
You even admit you're strawmanning and you argue anyways.

You're beyond hope.
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>>57303278
We have plenty of violence through other means, we also don't have as a high of level of dindus.
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>>57303278
>Will they still be advocating the right to bear arms in 300 years when you have hand held rail guns?

Fuck yes we will. And we will be shooting them while you sit around getting raped by your mudslime overlords.
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You know that Americans can't own automatic weapons (unless they were made before the 80s), right? They've been illegal for a long time now. But don't let that get in the way of your narrative
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>>57308976
950 rounds per minute is a high estimate for a comparable fully auto rifle. That motherfucker was saying 60 rounds per second, making it 3600 rounds per minute. So you, claiming you know little about guns, can spot bullshit. Congrats.

>>57309282
>I know everything there is to know ever
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The problem with the USA isn't gun laws, it's the fact our entire culture has been subverted by the mass media to breed greedy psychopaths and murderers.

banning guns wouldn't stop anything anyway since leftists like Obama, Lee, Feinstein etc routinely do black market deals to sell guns to criminal cartels (Fast & Furious selling to mexican cartels, Lee selling to Chinese Triad) and terrorist networks (Obama's unflagging support for the "pro-democracy" organizations known as ISIL and Al-Qaeda). as I said, greedy and deranged psychopaths.
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>>57310438
And to add to my own post, that rate of fire being sustained is unrealistic. Your shit would melt.
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Hey Jim Jefferies.
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>>57304126
>against trained US operatives
I'm a trained US operative. I'm ashamed to say that our shooting qualifications across all the armed organizations is terribly sad. The average joe has marginal training at best. The vast majority of people that carry guns for a living go to the range a couple times a year to take an entire day to barely pass a very low standard shooting qualification. Seriously. Seriously. You'd be very surprised to know how much "trained operatives" suck by and large.
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>>57312069
And not only is shithead's Eotech on backwards, the fat bald dick head behind him has an 870 proped across his cover with his support in where his cheekweld should be. What is sight picture? I could go on and on about all the cringe worthy shit I see at the range all the time.
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>>57303278
>convict land talking about being civilized
Legalize guns and lets see how many Aussies shoot up people.
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>>57303278
This one is a mudslime shooting ISIS related. Time to remove kebab not guns.
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>>57303278
>some of you flags are alright, don't go to America tomorrow...
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>>57312069
I'll continue.

Please, please, please, for all things holy, quit thinking just because someone is in the military, or law enforcement, that they even know which end of the weapon the bullet exits from.
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>>57312069
Aaaand more. This guy is so fucking bad ass he shoots his own foot in a classroom full of elementary students, and continues his lecture about how professional he is at guns.
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>>57303278

1) The right doesn't change because technology evolves. The whole "flint-lock muskets were the standard back then" is not a very sound argument considering how ballistic weaponry has evolved over the years.

2) This shooting took place in a state with one of the strictest gun laws in the entire nation. Their laws are very similar to Canada's gun laws and some European countries too. Waiting periods, psychological background checks, police background checks, etc...

3) Your country didn't ban guns. They are restricted meaning you can still get them. There is a lot of legal paperwork, evaluations, etc... that a law abiding citizen would have to undergo which may take months. Matter of fact, violent crime has not been reduced by the increase of stricter regulation. Like every other country, there is a black market for firearms. They are either smuggled in or illegally manufactured.

4) Your knife murders, assaults, robberies and other various crimes went up. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia According to this, in 1996 there were 104 gun homicides and in 2012 there were 40 gun homicides.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/knife-killings-on-the-rise-in-australia-as-gun-murders-fall-says-new-criminology-report/story-e6frg6nf-1226581896001

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/tbp/tbp045/tbp045.pdf

Suck my balls.
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>>57303278
I'm all about guns. I've been shooting military smalls arms(AR's, AK's, insert mag fed military autoloader here) since I was 12. Thank God for it here in the US. I fucking love it. However comma, I'm all about responsible gun ownership. There's about whole fuck ass ton of people that have no business with them. The Chinese invented the firelance to shoot people in the face with and guns have continued to evolve to shoot people more better. Guns are purpose built to blow a mother fucker away, period. That carries a great and heavy burden upon the person that chooses to own a gun, or fucking should. Unfortunately that's not the case. I'm not a fan of having the government get in the private affairs of people, but I would support an educational system that really taught people what guns are all about and how to use them properly and responsibly. And I really don't feel comfortable with any ol' fucker buying a gun without first proving they knew what they were doing with it.

It's not restrictions and bans we need, it's education.
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>>57306140

Ha. Poor Australia. Had such potential. Now just another burden country for the US and China to have to carry.

Thanks for staying special.
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>>57303278
preach, look at how much safer it is in gun-free Paris
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>>57303278
So you're trying teh say they were ignorant bastards? What did man rely on before guns - explosive knives? Multiple rounds of rocks? Maybe teflon-coated headbutts?
Arms encompassed the world - and were passed down to the next generation - and the idea that there would always be likeminded people ready to take up the next real fight to defend FREEDOM (NOT AMERICA) in any form and against ANY oppression(s).
>The other stuff sounded cool too, but was probably just filler - tax laws and shit.
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>>57317218
liberals on suicide watch
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>at least four

Ah, i see you only pay attention to the occasionally reported media ones when the news suspects a white person did it.

Niggers have mass shootings every hour m8, keep up to date you pleb.
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>>57303278
>have organized crime so bad it can not be stopped

This the life of an aussie
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>>57303278
>tfw hundreds could be shot and America would still never give up our gun rights
Feels good to be free
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