Ask someone who's father is a esteemed microbiologist who recently had a conference with top government officials about antibiotic resistance anything.
hint: we're fucked
it's pretty hard to catch anything when you don't leave the house. i think i'll be one of the few survivors of the plague.
Yeah, I've been saying this for years. States worry about global warming but it's the bacteria that's gonna get us.
>>57251496
All thanks to india and china.
>>57251496
Just say what you feel is important nigger. Why wait for stupid questions?
>>57251496
Is my country far away enough from the epicenter of the disaster for me to not to have to care?
Why do you think being related to someone who accomplished something while you have not makes you important?
I'll just move to siberia.
>>57251496
CLOSE THE PORTS
>>57251496
Pretty sure the problems with antibiotic resistance is almost common knowledge at this point.
Are viruses alive?
>>57251496
can you take viagra when you're taking antibiotics?
Will yersinia-chan make a comeback
>>57251496
you're fucked either way
not sure what you're worried about
Finally. Best news I heard all day, thanks faggot.
In the end it was the bacteria that did us in those filthy fuckers.
>>57251496
So how can a person be reasonably safe?
Wear a mask in public? Cook all their own food? Be ultra NEET?
>>57252119
Have a good immune system, be healthy.
The weak and the old are usually the victims of disease.
>>57251496
>hint: we're fucked
Until big pharma produces drugs with new mechanisms of action.
Unfortunately that's expensive and it's much easier for drug companies to SLIGHTLY change the current MoA, make a "new" drug, and push it for lods e mone.
I also hope your dad had more of a point that "we're fugged xXdDDdD" and focused on the fact we can handle antibiotic resistance in microorganisms the same way we deal with pesticide resistance.
>>57252180
I don't want my weak old family members to die.
This is like the /k/ommando nightmare: an enemy that bullets cant kill.
>>57251496
tell your dad garlic kills all antibiotic resistant bacteria, he can calm down.
>>57251496
Yes, I only wonder how long it will take.
>>57252301
The problem is that almost all antibiotics derive from other organisms, and are thus limited. That and the fact that big pharma is far more invested in the cash cows of cancer and HIV drugs.
>>57252119
Sorry guys I was away.
Yeah there's nothing you can do. America and China are the biggest problems for this, for more than one reason.
Buy organic food. Support farmers who don't feed their animals antibiotics.
>>57252301
Pharmaceutical companies have no interest in producing antibiotics.
>>57252501
Yes, the WHO are going fucking insane and my father was told that it's become so serious that it's now prime minister level seriousness.
In the UK or something we have 7 different committees dedicated to deciding where funding goes.
Antibiotic resistance was the first time all 7 committees unanimously have voted to fund significantly.
Is there an ETA on when this would begin to affect our society in a significant way?
>>57252301
Also, my father generally works on mercury and copper resistance in microbials.
He has unique access to a farm where they are probably the most strictly kept and maintained farm in the country because of university protocols.
He's seen unprecedented levels of resistance to even last-line-of-defence cephalosporins and almost complete resistance to conventional tricyclics.
>>57252839
It already is. Look at methycillin resistant RSA. That's killed many.
It won't affect countries like Australia, UK, and sensible European countries like France for a while, because we have really cut back on our antibiotic use, but China is already fucked tbqh family.
>>57252941
*methicillin resistant SA
>>57251496
Will it only get the shitskins, or also us?
>>57251496
Can your father not engineer them to only target nignogs and arabs?
>>57252317
>I don't want my weak old family members to die.
You aren't receiving inheritance?
It's time for the new anti-biotics
>>57252981
All of us.
If your uncle goes in for a routine procedure in hospital... at the rate we're going, he could die from an infection that even 100 year ago he'd have survived.
>>57252993
If only.
He's worked on some cool projects before, though.
He once worked for the UK "military" I suppose, where they took air samples 24/7 from around the UK and analysed them because all governments around the world want to know if they're under biological attack before it happens.
>>57251496
>we're fucked
Yup.
How much of it is down to overuse of anti-biotics in animals
>>57252762
My dad is the prime minister, he says your dad is full of shit.
>>57253091
Massively. But also, people don't realise that dumping hazardous waste into our oceans does far more than kill off wildlife.
It's also a breeding ground for microbials to get resistant to heavy metals like mercury, which means they'll be almost unkillable if we don't work hard to stop it soon.
>>57253126
My dad only works in white countries :^)
>>57253164
What does your dad think about engineered bacteriophages? Are they too far away from usable to be relevant?
>>57253164
We are here on a visit. He told me your dad is a kek and has been prepping your mom for a tour to the mohammed horror show.
>>57253164
Any other tips than buy organic food?
As in keeping healthy by being fit etc must be an advantage.
Adding vitamin/mineral supplements to an otherwise healthy organic diet, wearing gloves in public, obviously washing hands before eating etc
Anything else?
>>57253322
if you get cut, ALWAYS rub alcohol on it.
>>57253322
Well we're not living any differently because of it.
Just make sure you're meats well cooked. Stay as healthy as possible to be able to fight off infections without antibiotic help.
Only use antibiotics if you really need them. If you have a wound, saltwater and TCP it.
>>57253126
The prime minister of Argentina is a woman yes?
Sorry kid your dad is a raging faggot cock gobbler
>>57253387
Thanks Straya, you're my greatest ally.
>>57253271
Sorry, I don't speak dindu.
Can you try speaking in Falklandish for me? :^)
Why was it not fucking obvious to people that overusing meds would cause the viruses to mutate..
>>57253429
On alcohol: don't use like 90+% alcohol solution.
The most effective IPA concentration for disinfection is 50-70%.
Sounds weird, just trust me. Otherwise the membrane around microbials is actually hardened too quickly with ~90% alcohol and it doesn't kill anything.
>>57253521
Because of Chinese farmers
>>57253457
Play dumb all you want, but she's taking the full jihad train bareback while your dad talks about antibiotics.
>>57253164
So how much is due to everyone be extremely cleanly all the time (in white countries at least)? I remember seeing a a sci-fi (actually Mass Effect I think) where there was an alien species that always had to have super special on or else they would die since they were so cleanly they didn't build up a resistance to anything. Are they us?
>>57251496
I'm gonna leave this here
>it was posted by a WHO official
>>57253551
Its not just the chinese. Did you not notice how reliant people have gotten to meds when they get a cold? I blame leftists, those fools are the softest bunch.
>>57253164
I remember this hitting the papers a few years ago, when we still had two effective ones left. They were saying developing new ones was going to take up to 30 years.
I only caught a little bit about this latest panic, but it's China wots finally done it right? Is it just a single strain of an MRSA like bacteria or are other illnesses evolving immunity? I don't know much about this topic so apologies if I've fucked up my question.
>>57253611
Not much, really. It's retarded American and Chinese farmers who are desperate for profits literally throwing antibiotics into your animal feed.
The problem is, there are only so many ways antibiotics work which are safe for humans, and even if antibiotics are "animal use only", they still work the same way.
>>57253628
I know these posts are trash, but they still scare the fuck out of me. You can't see this coming...
>>57253680
Yes, mainly China. Blame America, too. People are too reliant on antibiotics and take them for fucking colds and shit.
And yes, MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus) hit UK hospitals a couple of years ago. Methicillin is a last resort form of penicillin. If you're on methicillin usually... then you're fucked. It's reserved for the WORST infections, and SA was resistant to it.
It's only going to get worse, too, btw.
>>57253628
>big nations
>iceland, greenland
>>57251496
hmm why is the US not using antibiotics on their chickens and are using chlorine instead.
>>57253812
Also forgot to say that hospitals are fucking awful for this kind of shit.
Not to mention that they STILL... in 2015, don't burn their sewage.
If we continue at the rate we're going, it won't be long until there are levels of medications in your water that will be having therapeutic effects on you.
>>57253628
>Board /x/ - Paranormal
>>57253812
>antibiotics for a cold
I mean im a well educated man, my parents are doctors. But everyone knows this basic shit.
>>57253924
I don't even know what you're saying, Ibrahim.
I said I don't speak dindu!
>>57253864
Actually plasma waste converters are going to be a HUGE help for medical waste.
Look into it
>>57253628
I saved this aswell when I saw that thread
>>57251496
Honest Question how fucked are we in reality?
I have deliberately not used anti biotics for at least a few years, mostly for gut health and I have not been sick at all in this time, I believe the anti biotics were causing more harm than good and I was constantly getting ill prior to that.
What is more likely to fuck our species up, flu? Ebola? Some other super bug? What's on the horizon?
>>57254038
The saying "I'll believe it's a crisis when they start acting like it's a crisis" is in effect.
The WHO are shitting themselves. They've issued multiple of the highest level warnings they can issue.
David Cameron has expressed concern, and we're facing what appears to be a genuine global disaster if nothing is done.
>>57252455
Everybody ignoring this.
honey, garlic, pretty much any fermented food like saurkraut, apple cider vinegar, grapefruit seed extract, colloidal silver . . .
The only people who should be panicking are big pharma and big government and big fat fucking retards who don't understand nutrition.
Everybody else is gonna be fine. All 10% of us.
>>57254248
Is it finally karma for the fats?!
FINALLY?!
>>57254248
How many of the retards in this thread take a vitamin pill everyday and don't know that all of our food is undermineralized because of mineral depletion in the soil and your body can't even ABSORB vitamins without minerals?
How many?
>>57251496
What up bruh, I'm just getting over being sick with a 24 hour flu myself. Nice and comfy right now, no work today.
Anyways, I don't personally use antibiotics often. Will my body be able to fight off these new strains, or can neither the human body nor antibiotics fight off the infection?
What kind of disease are we talking about anyways?
Will vaccines for measles and smallpox stop working?
>>57253628
>spread West across Russia
>from Italy
Either that's a retarded child playing pretend.....or it really is an ignorant leftist WHO insider.
Either way he is far too stupid to trust. Everything will be juuuuuust fiiiiiine
>>57254329
No, even better:
Karma for the stupids.
That means all of the fats and ALMOST all of the skinnies.
>>57254472
I'm naturally skinny though, you mean the ones that take vitamins and meds everytime they get a cold right? Or am I fucked..
>>57253707
The Chinese farmers may do it on a more massive scale, but the Doctors and Idiots in my country piss me off the most.
Drs will prescribe AB for anything and they don't express the importance of finishing the course of treatment, so amerifat discards half her AB as soon as she's feeling better. God damn I can't wait for 28days later to happen
Innawoods when? In all seriousness OP, I assume the best course of action for when this shit starts hitting is to head out away from large crowded areas? My uncles got a little farm that should work perfectly. Also, I'm scared tbqh f.am
What really amazes me is how people act when they're sick. I remember my university days. It's was a period when we are preparing for our exams, so it's somewhat good to go and study, but you can easily do it all at home. But no. We had shits coming in with a high fever and coughing on fucking everyone. A week later when exams do hit, it's 2/3 of the auditorium with the same fucking symptoms because some chavs can't stay in bed for 2 days.
Same for my workplace. working in an IT sector, you can easily take your work and do it at home. But no again. People keep having this mentality that they just can't get sick right now, and even if they have a fever they will keep going until they practically faint. Then not only do you have to clean up their mess because their work is of worse quality than heavily intoxicated, but they also get most of the other people sick.
Or better yet, I know a fuckton of people who take antibiotics for like 3 days until they supposedly feel better, then stop, because "it's bad for my body to keep taking them for any longer, i'll get better on my own and i'm ready to go around town ;^)". Ye, thanks for making your strain fucking immune to that particular antibiotic.
I'm just happy it's been 10 years since the last time I was really really sick. I get a small fever and a sore throat every once or twice a year. I instantly take 3-5 days off if needed and spend 99% of the time in bed, getting better, drinking tea, eating fruit, garlic, getting lots of sleep. That's all there is to it.
I'm not saying antibiotics shouldn't be used, we really need them, but these days you can cough once and you will be prescribed a full weeks course. Most of the time without any blood work, "just to be sure" and it ends up being fucking nothing.
Medicine abuse that leads to fucking the entire world up really boils my blood.
This sort of shit is why I love living in Tasmania. We might get a lot of shit, but we're so irrelevant that any happening is very unlikely to reach our shores.
Well guess what, I have a bacteria resistant immune system that adapts and becomes more capable of dealing with every bacteria it encounters over time.
It also works on Virii, which for the most part have always been immune to anti-biotics.
The old and the weak will die, this could be the purge we need.
>>57251496
Would it be incorrect that the following picture is our current problem? Do we save all just to be bread out in 50 years, or let it kill most people, giving whites a chance in the long run?
>>57251496
Are you cute?
>>57251627
Because he's a NEET spastic, roleplaying on the Internet.
>>57254727
I'll be sure to make a special trip down there if my eyes and ears start bleeding.
>>57253164
How long till it kicks off, I hope it HABBENS late.
>>57253322
King Denmark of Doubles II. Checked
>>57254846
Likewise buddy
>>57254727
see: New Zealand
>>57254708
but you gotta realize most antibiotic use is on livestock, and that true to form the current chinese debacle was spawned by antibiotic use on livestock
the general purpose, low-dosing of antibiotics on animals that arent even sick needs to be outlawed imo, its a serious public safety issue. seriously, its standard practice to feed them constant low doses because it increases growth rates.
here have a source
>>57254846
>>57254972
No virus could possibly be as bad as the plethora of inbred fucks down here anyway. It's such an issue that our state hospital keeps a register to make sure people aren't inbreeding.
>>57253628
I'm hoping so much for this. All the naples terroni niggers will die
Sorry, I was eating.
>>57254349
It will vary from strain to strain.
Literally, I mus stress... stay healthy. Eat LOTS. You're 100x better off eating too much and wearing it off doing exercise than not moving and eating too little or eating shit. Lots of fruits, lots of veggies.
We're just talking about infections. This won't be ebola 2.0. It'll be a shitty way to die because you'll get sweaty, hot, run a temp, and get septicaemia and die.
>>57254248
>comes into antibiotic resistance thread talking about antimicrobials
>doesn't understand antibiotic resitance
Keep rubbing garlic on your skin when you have a chest infection, retard.
>>57254629
There won't be a "habbening". That's what's so annoying. It's a silent killer. We'll go on fine for years and then one day you'll realise you're going to die from a shitty chest infection because doctors have been silent on the fact that antibiotics no longer work.
>>57254708
Humans are unfortunately innately selfish.
Sucks, but it's true.
>>57254764
Tell this to the MRSA patients.
Oh wait, you can't. They're dead.
>>57254803
Maybe
>>57254932
Like I said anon, unfortunately there will be no habbening because the public are retarded and don't understand.
>>57254708
Also.
Crush garlic with olive oil and rub your nose. Instantly relieves a running nose.
Honey mixed with fresh fruits and nuts, add full lemon slices. Grate some lemon peel. Eat that shit.
Full meals if possible with lots of extra fruits.
Tea, you can mix it up since it gets hard to stomach. Helps you get lots of fluids, herbal tea is the fucking bomb.
I eat garlic quite abit, helps alot with a sore throat. Garnet fruit is amazing when you have a sore throat, especially with those small puss things.
Don't go around town when sick, actually stay in bed. Rub your feet with spirit or rinse them in a hot bowl of water, then ut on some socks and back to bed.
There you go, you just cured yourself of 95% of illnesses that an average person will get. From simple a cold to the flu.
Don't take any fever medicine for anything below 37.7. If it stays like that for 3 days without getting better at all. Then start thinking about actual medicine, your body probably can't cope. Obviously you need some common sense. If you're coughing up blood, puking and on a high fever, or even a low one but still suffering from unusual pain, jsut get a check up.
It just baffles me how people waste their time at the doctors office when all they have is a sneeze and then proceed to die and ignore everything, when they're leaking blood out of every orifice.
>>57253387
Hydrogen peroxide is easier to get, cheaper and has the same effect. Rinse that cut good in it, and you're set to go.
>>57255069
Ye, I didn't touch on that subject. We are already getting huge doses of antibiotics from everywhere we eat. And I agree, it should be heavily regulated on how antibiotics are used on livestock and how it's handled afterwards. Since it just gets into the soil anyways and we are boned from crops.
Need to tackle both problems, both antibiotics from food and general antibiotic abuse.
how would the free market fix the issue of low dosing antibiotics to cattle?
>>57255297
>There won't be a "habbening". That's what's so annoying. It's a silent killer. We'll go on fine for years and then one day you'll realise you're going to die from a shitty chest infection because doctors have been silent on the fact that antibiotics no longer work.
You think they'll get away with doing that? Excuse is not to cause panic I'm guessing..
>>57255119
t. Sydnesider.
I don't know about you, but I'm not inbred, my dad and mum moved here from the Britain in the 80s.
>>57255150
BASED ITALIA
>>57255297
Answer me OP>>57254780
>>57255429
That guy is from Tassy.
>>57251496
Ive been following the gradual progression of this story for quite a few years after a relative went into hospital in 2005. We are indeed doomed.
It's not going to be worse than the black death. I bet people thought the world was ending back then but it didn't
Only 1.5 million out of 4 million people died.
You can't defeat life on planet earth
>>57252119
Head for Antarctica?
>>57255354
It wouldn't.
It's cheaper for farmers to just feed antibiotics to them and prevent them getting infections.
Because animals are designed now to grow retardedly quickly, it doesn't matter to them if the animals feel like shit from the constant antibiotic use.
The honest answer is that giving them antibiotics is cheaper than taking the losses from them getting infections and dying. That's the problem.
And antibiotic companies aren't going to increase prices because there's 200 other pharma companies happy to undercut them.
There's only a few ways to fix the whole problem that we can work out, btw:
Massively reduce population
Make feeding of antimicrobials illegal (if constantly fed, like we have atm)
Stop using capitalism
Have pharma companies that aren't profit-run.
>>57255423
Of course.
The fact is, that pharma companies don't want to make any antibiotics, ever.
Reasons:
Expensive to develop
They're worth nothing when they're being sold
They only work for so long
They have poor shelf life
Costs billions of $$ to safety test
Once patent runs out, the pills are worthless
The whole "pharma wants you on pills for life" meme isn't wrong. Pharma companies, like every other corporation, exists to give shareholders money. They're not in it for the human race to get better.
Giving someone 28 tablets to cure a condition that otherwise would send them to hospital for 3 weeks with supportive care just isn't more profitable.
>>57255297
Does rubbing garlic on your chest actually help chest infections?
If so thank you anon.
Any way I can possibly reduce the chances of chest infections in the future?
>>57252180
Unfortunately it isnt just the weak and the old who die. The 1918 flu epidemic infected half a billion and killed about 100 million, most of them the fit young and strong. It did not impact the elderly much. In 1918–1919, 99% of pandemic influenza deaths in the US occurred in people under 65, and nearly half in young adults 20 to 40 years old.
>>57255654
No, lmfao, it was sarcasm,
>>57254780
I don't even understand what this picture is trying to say.
>>57253038
not everybody is a greedy dutchman
>>57255429
My parents are brits too so I know I'm not. The inbreds are the convict-descended bogans in the poorer suburbs.
>>57255505
>That guy is from Tassy.
Tassy? Who the fuck spells Tassie like that.
>>57255710
How does that even work actually. I'm curious. Any reports or general approved reasoning why healthy and young died, rather than the elderly?
The only half assed personal reasoning I can provide is because those people tend to ignore illnesses and go around their day putting strain on their body and making it worse, but that's just me, so feel free to make fun of it.
>>57255626
> Massively reduce population
When you think about it, isn't it actually insanely profitable to not release any new antibiotics just for that reason. I can only imagine how many people would die from the common cold, plus the profit of what you stated later in your post.
I know i'm trecking into /x/ tier shit and conspiracies, but wouldn't this be the smartest course of action and the one that brings in the biggest profit overall?
>>57255654
Clean your bong water more often.
Considering that a lot of people have asked how to prevent infections in this thread, I'll post a few simple, basic, and effective treatments for helping fight off infections without use antibiotics:
If you have a cut that has got infected or you want to prevent an infection - Make a very salty water solution in a bucket, make the water as hot as you can tolerate (obviously don't burn yourself). Stick said limb into bucket for 15-30 mins up to twice a day. It will draw out the nasty stuff.
Optionally, add some TCP/Surgical Spirit/Dettol (don't but it in for as long if you add these).
Eat, eat, eat! Don't move if you've got an infection. Eat carby foods whilst you're ill. Eat bland but healthy things like rice pudding, potato, bread, pasta etc. Follow with fruit, fruit fruit and more fruit.
It's not so much about what you do whilst you have the infection, and more about how you live your life.
Eat well. Don't fast. Eat at least 3 meals a day (5 is actually preferable).
Lots of veggies, lots of fruit, and lots of berries and nuts. (not fried or salted).
Exercise is very important, as this helps with circulation.
Don't let this kinda stuff take over your life. Everyone needs antibiotics from time to time, just don't take them often.
>>57256122
No. Like I said, most don't work for that long, as they almost all work the same way.
Also, think about how many other antibiotics are available.
It's currently not worth their time to make them.
>>57251496
what about antibiotics taken for skin conditions ie. doxycycline, taken daily, is this the worst thing one can do?
>>57256427
Yes. Any use of antibiotics is bad, because you're just shitting out resistant bacteria which goes to a sewage plant which spreads it.
>bacteriophage treatment will become a thing in western medicine in your lifetime
>people will act as if it was groundbreaking and soviets didn't do that shit 70 years ago.
>>57255887
>Any reports or general approved reasoning why healthy and young died, rather than the elderly?
Because the young were on the front of the war, where environmental and sanitary conditions were awful and where people were packed all the time, while the old were in cities and had access to correct health services. Also, the immune system is mostly based on training your body, so the older you are, the more likely your body will have been trained for a specific illness.
>>57251496
Wow this is one misinformed and shit infograph.
You can't even get bacteria from an animal that had been cooked, you would have to be eating its shit or consume infected tissue raw.
>>57257237
You're retarded.
>>57255626
>Stop using capitalism
Could this crisis lead to Corbyn becoming prime minister? if he plays it right and has a contingent plan?
>>57257812
No. I mean worldwide, lol.
>>57251496
old + gay
Also, stop importing akmeds and niggers with their antibiotics-resistant tubercolosys. Problem almost solved.
>>57251496
Oi cunt, your faggot father would better not fuck up with my happening
>>57258164
do u want a fighte m8
>>57257237
E. Coli would like a word, ameriburger.
>>57258592
Aren't most e.coli contaminations from vegetables and such? I'm pretty sure he's right the only problem is it's relatively common for things like vegetables to get contaminated with bacteria
>>57259816
No, most E. coli contaminations come from badly cooked pork meat.
>>57251496
>>57251496
Is your dad Paul Nurse?
Yeah we are fucked desu senpai
My PhD was in virology, but I attended a lot of general microbiology conferences. Unfortunately antibiotic resistance is like climate change. People recognise its a problem, but until we are at the stage where the shit has really hit the fan we just wont do anything.
