I'm working on a theory about Trump.
The media has tried, over and over again, to destroy Trump's candidacy. It seems every week they roll out some new "gaffe" and then sit back, waiting for his numbers to implode. But it never happens.
Trump's electorate just doesn't give a shit. They don't care what he says, they don't even seem to much give a shit about his actual, concrete policy positions.
My theory is that Trump's candidacy is almost entirely propelled not by Trump, but by what Trump's election will do: totally blow up the system. In other words, people aren't voting for Trump, they're voting to burn the whole fucking thing down. Trump's just the crazy son of a bitch who saddled up to be the guy pushing the demolition handle.
Thoughts?
Next you're going to say Trump isn't unique enough to be God-Emperor.
Then we're going to have to put you down.
I think you should stop trying to be an armchair psychologist.
The media can't scratch Trump because they no credibility left. Even normalfags know they're corrupt.
Protest vote is a thing.
Trump is also a very good orator. His profession is to convince people. He is rather good at just that.
>>57249176
This is exactly why this ride is of so much fun! November16 the dawn of great future.
>>57249289
No man, he's the guy who throws the off switch on the Golden Throne.
every political junkie alive wants to see how far this can go
Trump is a true wild card candidate
>>57249378
>Trump is also a very good orator. His profession is to convince people. He is rather good at just that.
which is literally the only responsibility of the President while his 8000 underlings do actual work.
>>57249176
The media has gobbled Obama's cock for 8 long terrible years. Fuck what they have to say on the matter. Trump for emperor!
>, they don't even seem to much give a shit about his actual, concrete policy positions.
Was following you till here.
You need to do more research. Trumps policies are sound as fuck.
Wouldn't kill you to spend 20 minutes on his site.
Though it will take you much longer to actually read his tax plans.
>>57249546
Dont think OP is saying anything about trump's policies ,merely that his electorate don't give a fuck about his policies
>>57249378
>Trump is a very good orator
He talks like he's high
>>57249617
Eh, whatever. It just feels insulting when people just chalk it to people who are "dumb as fuck and only want a wall".
There is much more to it than that as hard as it is to believe.
>>57249546
I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm saying that most people don't give a shit what they are. All the polling shows his electorate is breaking their previous voting habits on what they self-described as "really important" issues.
>>57249631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55NxKENplG4
He's a shillary plant. And before you assume otherwise, no, I do not support kike Sanderstein. I actually want Trump to win but Trump himself doesn't even want to win.
>>57249617
Trumps electorate is one of the more conservative and conscious groups. They don't vote on a whim which is why they don't randomly change their views when the media blows some comment out of proportion. Very few people have their voting decision effected by "gaffes". They just hope the candidate they like the sound of wins the popularity contest.
>>57249791
What is he going to make the Establishment run third party?
Trump is literally a genius and the god emperor of mankind, whether he's working for himself, some noble goal of making America great again, Shillary or the Jews is unknown.
He's really fishy, no matter what. Some people think he's a joke. Other people think he's Hitler. Then people are basically worshiping him as a hero who will make America great again.
I think a lot of it is white Americans have been called racists for something every day since Obama was elected, and now its starting to work against the media. Average American is just plain tired of political correctness and hearing about how shitty they are just for being white.
I saw a poll the other day for my state and only 6% of people surveyed said black lives matters was the most important issue in the state and my state is way more than 6% black
>>57249176
>57249176
People love Trump because he is a New York guy that gets things done. He is straight out of the 80s, doesn't have time for bullshit, games the system and gets things done. He is crass and abrasive but he gets to the point. He is also a Seinfeld character.
>>57249378
>Trump is also a very good orator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4osI1p8-kG8
>>57249176
pretty much why im voting for him. plus we need to keep spics out. they ruined my once all polish neighborhood. its nothing but drunks,druggies, prostitutes and single moms with 6 kids just so they get more on there welfare card.
>>57249176
I don't care. Don't you get it? None of us care. But it's not just that. Look at the politician, the middleman, the white collar man, your fellow man.
He's a horrible fucking creature. An awful human being, pure evil given will. And he tries to pretend he's not every single day. He'll lie to you day in, day out, when both of you know you're fucking horrible.
Trump, that's it man. Trump knows he's a fucking monster and he won't even try to hide it. He goes "I'm a fucking terrible guy, and I'd do everything I ever did again."
I'll vote for that. Why not? It's better than "I'm totally not a terrible guy :^) I won't fuck you :^) I have your best interests in mind :^) I wasn't bought :^)"
>>57249176
Is this your new method of shilling?
>>57249330
Trust nothing this faggot says.
Trump is a plant working for the Clintons who offends women, spics, niggers etc. in order to deliver their votes to the Democrats, ensuring a democratic victory. Keep supporting Trump you dumb fucks and Hillary is guaranteed to be your next president.
>>57250547
It doesn't work like that. They never voted R anyway. If he just riles up the white vote, he can sieze what where Romney short came.
>>57249788
Trump Master Wizard confirmed.
>>57249888
Trips of truth!!
Trump will win the nomination but lose the election.
His negatives are insanely high, much higher than Clinton's. When push comes to shove on election day people aren't going to vote for Trump. They just like to say they would in polls for the keks..
>>57249176
>In other words, people aren't voting for Trump, they're voting to burn the whole fucking thing down. Trump's just the crazy son of a bitch who saddled up to be the guy pushing the demolition handle.
Kinda like that but simpler.
These smear jobs are despised by regular people and it's very typically associated by traditional politicians deep in political circles.
Trump simply does not play by their rules and this makes him the underdog candidate. Combine that with his charisma and willing to say things others can't, and you've got your 2016 election winner.
>>57249176
He's unstumpable because the masses are guided more by emotion than by logic.
The Conservative voters love him because he's epic and doesn't give a fuck about the leftists. the Liberals hate him because he's "RACIST" AND "MUH IMMIGRANTS".
This is why Democracy doesn't work. The masses are stupid and can't make rational decisions. I'm barracking for him because it's hilarious.
>>57249176
>they're voting to burn the whole fucking thing down.
I read his tax plan and I think it's really good. So I disagree with you.
But this is what your post reminded me of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4XenU6tyI
>>57249176
People are not that aware.
>>57249895
That's good because black lives don't matter.
>Trump's electorate just doesn't give a shit.
Are you dense? Could we be enjoying it any harder?
>>57249176
youre right
Its more important to send a message that special interest money doesn't control politics
His positions are irrelevant
They just happen to also be really good
>>57249176
I want this. Guess I'll have to vote for trump
No, if you had any intelligence or perception you would realize that everything you just said is insanity.
Trump has genuine care for America. If all he wanted to do was act down a path of nihilistic destruction he would have just done coke and whores in the 80's with the billion he made by the end of the 70's.
If you knew anything of his life, of his upbringing, of his family, of his values, of his work, you would know he genuinely cares about uplifting America and believes in the dream. His tax plan is all about the low and middle class. ZERO% for the 0-25k bracket on income tax, because he knows that they are 45% of the returns filed but barely 1.5% of the income tax revenue, so taxing their income is just a burden anyway. He strongly desires to vehemently protect the 2nd amendment, and wants UNIVERSAL concealed carry licenses that work in all 50 states. He wants to utilize his negotiation, charisma, energy, intelligence, and overall ability to start fucking over Mexico, China, and others that are currently fucking us. He WILL get that wall built.
All of you dumb failures that can't understand the magnanimous charisma and grand plan of Trump are simply inferior minds, stop trying to comprehend something so far above you and just accept that he is the last true hope for greatness.
Its the same thing with SD
People are just tired of the other parties ignoring or even causing problems that they vote for "that" person or party, and when they have taken that step there is no going back, why would they?
>>57249176
Yes.
That's always the reason for support of beltway outsider candidates.
Also, they never win because the machine is too entrenched.
It's all hopeful bullshit.
Trump's personality draws people in, but his policies make them stay.
Republicans are more into this primary than previous years, both because the candidates are interesting and so we don't end up with another socialist retard like Romney as the candidate. Trump is also making the field more entertaining which makes more people interested in politics.
Trump's policies are also sound. While he isn't specific on a lot of things, the foundation is sound, and his reputation regarding economics shows he can probably turn shit around. He also is strong-headed enough to not pussy out when they Dems and their media shills start throwing a shit fit. It also shows the Republican elites what the voters want, so they can either change or be kicked out of power.
There are a lot of reasons that people are going to vote Trump.
Will Trump publicly and personally execute Bergdahl?
>>57249176
Dang, you finally figured me out, im ultimately voting for scorched earth
>>57249176
That would imply the average american voter is intelligent enough or would care enough.
Nope.
Trump 2016 little bitches.
>>57256794
So is it going to be Merkel again for you or what?
First day:
>No Muslims celebrated, RACIST liar!
First week:
>Ok it was dozens in New York, and dozens in New Jersey, and a few in Texas, not thousands!
One month later:
>Why don't Muslims have the same 1st Ammendment right to celebrate anything they want to, even 9/11?
This is how cultural marxism works, people. It's real. Your country is at stake. Wake up.
NYPost has deleted the original:
http://nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/32549.htm...
but it's still available on WaybackMachine: > https://archive.is/s3oio
CBS has tried to claim it has no stories in it's archives verifying Trump's statements, but the following clip was found in a private VHS collection recorded off TV broadcasts that week:
https://youtu.be/3auKMHkZJnQ
Dan Rather on Letterman (skip to 12:33)
http://www.visibility911.org/video-dan-rather-on-david-letterman-1-week-after-911/
Mayor Rudi Giuliani
https://youtu.be/hdk7snHe0kM
The media really IS this controlled, this Orwellian. Don't be manipulated.
>>57249176
Trump is simply a troll for Hillary. Trump supporters are lazy, ignorant troll supporting trolls.
>>57257009
Division tactic
Trump 2016!
>>57249468
This. People automatcally think that a new president means the whole government will change. While it is a step in the right direction, it'll take several presidents like Trump to change it.
>>57257109
It truly does sadden me bro. Its like you all took half red and half blue.
>>57257198
Why even vote, amirite?
It's 2015!
>>57257009
You people just keep on pushing that line.
Kind of like the guy last night saying "hay guise I'm at the rally, what should I ask Trump because I'm a Trump supporter and I want to make him look good so he can lose to Hillary!"
I still can't understand how this is convoluted nonsense is supposed to hurt Trump or help Hillary or, I don't know, is the thinking somehow that this would aid some other candidate?
>>57256396
I understand bro. Trump is genuine about helping America.
Media has been shilling blue pill bullshit for so long that they've actually worn out their welcome. Not here in Canada obviously, since we just elected the king of liberal media kekolds, but in America people may have actually woken up a bit. FOX is trying desperately to validate Ben Carson as a candidate and Hillary's supporters 100% don't even listen to news at all. Trump has made a big enough impact and told everyone to fuck off enough that the people see him as someone who can change the downward spiral of toxic bullshit about both white people and everyone else. Black Lives Matter has only served to make people look up actual stats on police "oppressions" of dindus and people now see them as the enemy. Trump has succeeded because he's failed to tow the line of bullshit that's been spread since the 60's about whiteness being a toxic entity, and that dindus aren't actually liable for their own shit behaviour.
>>57257393
They're desperate as hell. Everyone dem and rep alike fear Trump and the change he is going to bring. Trump will destroy Clinton and we all know it... best hope to keep business as usual is to have Clinton vs one of the bought and paid for reps.
>>57249176
I think it's more than that.
When Rubio, or Bush, or even Sanders (possibly not Clinton) looks to the future for motivation, that see themselves in November, surrounded by supporters, having aced all the focus groups and exit polls, watching their vote counter hit 270 early in the night, and then giving a speech to their voters. In other words, they imaging a future where they've played the election and won.
Trump looks to the future and he imagines himself in the Oval Office. Maybe he's giving an address to the nation. Maybe he's striking a deal with China. Maybe he's drafting a bill. Didn't matter. He sees himself ruling the nation and ALL its people, not winning the election.
That's why the rules don't apply to him. The election is not his goal, it's a means to an end. He doesn't have to follow the rules to get rewards he doesn't want, like favor with the GOP or whatever. He's after the hearts and minds of the people, and he'll get them.
>>57257393
The thought is this. We have always spoken of the pol/iticians being owned... Trump is an owner (small as he may be in the grand scheme). He has chosen to own Hillary many times. He likes the NSA. He wants a wall (a fucking wall that can be used against us when we try to flee a crashing system some day). He cannot beat Hillary.in fact probably the only Republican that can't. So I don't know, maybe we should actually have this convo instead of someone simply responding to this with 'faggot, kek etc".
>>57257529
I can't wait. I hope Trump crushes Clinton. As of this point the liberals say it's near impossible for Trump to win the general but something in me says Trump will win the crowd over when he is 1v1 vs Hillary. He is the one who will make her look like a joke.
>>57257680
I agree on all points other than that he's had had past relations with Hillary. However, that's no excuse for not securing the borders (and that includes drawing up plans for the Northern one as well depending on how dude weed lmao's quota goes), so therefore it would be incumbent upon an anti-Trump fellow to make a counterproposal -- a useful conversation as you suggest.
I have yet to come to any personal conclusion about Trump as yet. I even had tentative plans to vote for Hillary just to ensure that we get somebody who is completely incompetent and incapable of accomplishing anything and whom everybody hates, and also to avoid one-party control of two branches of the fedgovco. Also, as long as Larry Nichols is still kicking, he claims he can take her out after the Clinton machine uses its power to keep the Obama faction from pulling any shenanigans.
But, for the time being, I fail to see Trump as other than a positive force in the process regardless of whether he drops out or whatever else. I even think, as far as that goes, that many of the other GOP candidates have made good contributions to the discussion at large, even if they've been subsumed at this point by Trump's ability to trump -- at least we're not getting the full neocon line anymore.
>>57257680
>fleeing
>into mexico
>to escape a crashing system
my sides are somewhere around jupiter
>>57257966
To your first point, pull all troops home and position them on the border. Lay the rest off.
People like Trump because he's an empire builder. That's it.
>>57258077
That's a nice idea. I'm very much in favor of figuring out how to stop being the world's policeman.
However, the power vacuum resulting from such a move could potentially usher in a whole world of chaos that could completely obviate silly questions like whom to have as POTUS. I would recommend, "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski, as this very issue is one of his principle tenants for advocating for American Primacy. I don't personally advocate for American Primacy, but he raises a very good point and his analysis as usual is incisively insightful.
>>57257966
Agree with your last point. I guess I don't compare "evils". One is not lesser than the other to me. They all suck, except Paul. I know many will disagree but he is the beat option for anyone wanting independence from the fedgov. But trump has made the neocons at least lose ground. As for Hillary, she is a neocon.
>>57249378
did you listen to his rallys? he sounds like crazy drunk bum.
>>57258305
>germany
>critiquing leaders
so, are you excited for the extra syrians turkey is sending your way after you already paid them billions to look after them?
>>57258209
He is also one of them though. An evil fuck. We had an industrial revolution and never set foot on foreign soil. Every citizen ( well the real muricans are armed) so I dare anyone to invade.
>>57258277
Hillary is unquestionably a neocon. I have always had a lot of interest in Paul, and I was hoping he would have a stronger run. I always wanted to see a Paul/Trump ticket, although that hasn't been seeming very realistic.
Maybe Paul just isn't the right man for the job at this point in time; but we need people like him in Congress anyway, so I see it as no especial loss provided he continues exercise and amass power there. In my opinion, the Executive branch wields too much power these days anyhow. I don't want an empire run by an emperor, even if it's fun to make those kinds of references during all the campaign fervor.
It's actually really simple.
>>57258455
I Dr. B is an evil motherfucker. But that doesn't mean he isn't a smart motherfucker. It's a short book and worth the read. I disagree with his promulgations, but his analysis is not to be ignored.
In similar fashion, after reading Carol Quigley's works, I am better able to understand what had been being attempted through the British Empire and subsequent attempts at some form of world government. I think a lot of it is foolhardy and the wrong way to go, but there is much insight to be gained through a better understanding of what was intended and where it did and did not work.
>>57249176
>they're voting to burn the whole fucking thing down
basically.
i was thinking, what if it he is doing all this to create some reality tv series?
>>57258483
Good to see someone actually thinking. I agree 95% with what u said bro
>>57258708
i think you have to look a lot deeper into trump's life and psychology. he's old now, the fun and games (tv shows) are over. he's become hugely popular, it was all part of his plan for this, becoming president.
you have to see trump as having huge ambition, this is what he wants at this point in his life. this would confirm his greatness, his legacy, to himself, to his family... it's clearly important to him. i don't buy into any of the "he doesn't even want to win" theories at all. he's just going about things a different way because he's high intelligence, he's like a chess master who sees your move before you make it.
>>57258616
Yes. My point is that they are wrong. If we know where they stand, what they want, and we disagree... Aren't we supposed to fight it?
>>57250119
Honesty sells well, trudat.
Personally, I'm all for scorched earth and sipping on cocktails of buttmad liberals.
>we refuse to work for free shit
>>57249289
We will annex you first and bring you into glory for such great bantz. Canada is too soft.
>>57258934
you don't have to convince me. i'm not changing my mind, no matter what. he better run independent if he doesn't win the primary fairly. I've always voted, local, state, federal and I'll abstain for the first time if he isn't running. He's the last hope. Plus, no other republican could win. Trump pulls from all sides of the political spectrum.
regarding the reality tv series though... I, and I'd be willing to think many others, would like to see something that's 'behind the scenes' with his campaign. Plus it'll make him some $$ to make up for all HE has spent on his campaign.
>>57258991
>Aren't we supposed to fight it
Sure. But, at least for me, simple blind rejection won't do. I'd rather understand the situation well enough to motivate a superior solution.
It's like with the Federal Reserve. I don't advocate getting rid of it entirely -- that's what Andrew Jackson did, and it might have been a step in the right direction, but then the financial sector of the US was left at the mercy of a cartel of (mainly foreign-controlled) big banks that ran boom and bust cycles until the population was traumatized enough to accept the Federal Reserve Act in the name of stability. Rather, I'd prefer to see a nationalized Federal Reserve so that our country has a way to push back against cartel powers -- I'd also like to see more states adopt state banks so that they have a way to push back against federal and international powers.
For this reason, I think it's especially interesting to watch the ongoing discussions about a Grexit or the UK leaving or a V4 or whatever else. Obviously too big and overarching doesn't work. But a small power trying to go it alone will be the little fish in the big sea.
>>57257009
>run for president
>go far enough to be nominated by gop
>then ruin your chances of presidency and hand your spot over to an undeserving shrew that needs your existence to win
Nope, Trump simply has too big an ego for that.
>>57249176
>They don't care what he says, they don't even seem to much give a shit about his actual, concrete policy positions.
that's because his following is genuinely fucking retarded and they only hear what they want to hear.
>>57249176
That's it for me in a nutshell. Trump is an agent of chaos, a wrench in the entire corrupt system.
A Trump presidency will not be any worse than another 4 years of a career politician like Hillary, or a other 4 years of a political extremist like Obama or Bernie or Mike Huckabee. My expectations for our govt are at an all time low, so Trump can only meet them or exceed them.
>>57249788
Good video
>>57260022
i think his personality is very significant. he's not a weakling, he's someone who will be able to meet with other world leaders and be suitably intimidating just on a personal level. you see how he is in interviews? no one gets past him - "excuse me, excuse me" - he finishes his point, silencing the other person. his sons want to do it, too, you can tell, but they don't have the status to be so arrogant without reproach.
>>57249176
Yea mostly hit the nail on the head I think. I'm here purely to watch the world burn, and I want to see the absolute madman pull it off purely for the liberal outrage that will follow. Anything he does during his presidency after that is just bonus.
Its not like I've got much to go with in this country these days, what with it being the current year and all.
when was the last time we had a great president?
>>57261073
Eisenhower?
>tfw I can name more and know more about American presidents than Canadian prime ministers
Such is the life of the Northern Territories I guess
It never works because the only people who care about any of those "controversies" are people who would never vote for a non-far left candidate in the first place. Every single one is nonsense that no one gives a shit about, like that latest one about Muslims celebrating on 9/11, who actually cares?
>>57249176
If they really wanted the system to burn they'd vote for hernia Sanders
>>57249176
Do you see how the media machine is destroying itself every time it attacks trump? That's why we need him.
Trump is the only guy big/smart/savvy enough to put a stop to the corruption we have in our political system.
>>57249176
>Trump's electorate just doesn't give a shit
I agree, I really dont.
This also coincides with a widespread and unrecognized (at least unreported, go figure) distrust in the media.
It seems like everyday I go on CNN, there's an article saying "Trump needs to drop out" or "forget trump, the real race is rubio and cruz". Every goddamn day. What are they trying to achieve?
>>57263314
Demoralization. Bear in mind that we've been seeing WWII-era propaganda techniques being endlessly regurgitated the whole time, so this is no departure.
>>57249378
>protest vote is a thing
Can confirm. Vote in brazil is obligatory and we once voted a circus monkey and a rhino for the city council for the banter cause if you are an indecided vote, you kinda get pissed off to have to go there, wait in line for no reason. We constatly vote ex-athletes and clows as well.
>>57261457
We're going to annex you soon
Hang tight pupper
Most people are sick of PC bullshit.
>>57263314
>>57263469
They really are going for the "big lie" technique.
They're failing, hilariously, but they're trying.
>>57264722
I don't think they're smart enough to go for the big lie technique. All they're doing is sending out bimbos and male bimbos to try to take snarkey pot shots. There's no cohesive nor intelligent big lie being constructed.
I don't think they even know how to play their own game.
>>57265050
>I don't think they even know how to play their own game.
The alinskyites are too busy chanting "black lives matter!" in front of police stations and alienating moderates.
