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At Brown University, a group of students have gone underground in order to have free and open discussions about topics now deemed too sensitive by campus crybullies.

And just so we're absolutely clear: Yes, Brown University is in America and not in, say, North Korea.

National Review Senior Editor Jay Nordlinger traveled to the university to interview two students, including founder Chris Robotham, of the underground group known as Reason@Brown. Robotham created a Facebook group for students who wished to discuss issues that should be allowed for discussion on the campus, but currently aren't.

Robotham says the students who meet underground to practice Free Speech (there are around 100 in the group now) are "more conservative than the general Brown population, which isn't saying much." There are members who support Donald Trump for president and members who support Vermont's socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders and anyone in between. Robotham believes most will be voting for the Democratic nominee next year.

Which should tell us something about the liberalism of the campus protesters — they are on the fringe.

One member of the group, Marie Willersrud, who is originally from Oslo, Norway, said the culling of Free Speech is "not what I signed up for."

"I have a lot of fun conversations with Americans except when it comes to politics," Willersrud said. "I find myself in a place where a large percentage of the student body wants to shut down debates that include unpopular opinions, and the university backs them. This is not what I signed up for."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/brown-univ.-students-create-secret-group-for-free-speech/article/2577388
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>>57235086
Wow, sad that it's come to this.
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>>57235086
>mfw
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>>57235086
shit, they've been outed now. wait for the SJWs to raid their meetings. or worse, infiltrate them and surreptitiously record their faces, so they can publicly shame them later for the hateful bigots they are.
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>>57235463
Oh yeah, their faces are gonna be all over tumblr.
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>>57235086
>facebook group
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>>57235656
d-do you think they'll turn their meetings into actual masquerades?

because that could be sort of lovely.
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>>57235768
inb4 guy fawks masks
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>>57235463
and try their hardest to expel them from school.
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>>57235086
What's with the Sargon of Akkad icon in this cartoon?
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>>57235437
I still kek at how Obama doesn't even get the big seat in the room
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>>57235086

>trumpfags and Sandersfags have to ally themselves

This is so sad m8. But is the first step to national socialism
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>>57235832
it was the guy who commissioned it
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>>57235799
i've had occaision to wear guy fawkes masks for events before.

they really don't conceal enough to protect your identity.
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>>57235086
I really wish someone would post the Ben Garrison original there, the one with the big guy, the big bane, and the master plan complex.
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>>57235832
he hired 'Ol Ben to draw it
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>>57235086
You know what? Fuck them. They're going underground to practice "free speech" and then they turn to enable those who would foaming at the mouth to take down their underground group. Fucking college kiddies have to be the most brainless and have the least common sense of any group of people, outside of animals.
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>>57235086
I can't believe how fast this is escalating.

I need to accelerate my plans.
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>>57236075

This.

Don't go underground. The fact that the topic even comes up is proof that you need to march.
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>>57235849
He could have had it if he wanted it I'm sure but he was literally just stopping by for a couple of minutes before he went to go play Spades with his boyfriend Reggie Love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXTv4CPGtu0
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>>57236110
Yeah, dude. Hurry up already
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>>57235437
is this during bin laden or benghazi
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>>57236340
Bin Laden.
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>>57235086
>Underground
>facebok group
Wow they are like real political dissidents please make sure to like and subscribe also answer my request on farmville!
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>>57236340
bin laden
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They made a discussion group with a trigger warning
SHUT IT DOWN
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Why are these clowns not shut down

I thought america was supposed to be about freedom
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>>57235832

He commissioned it from Ben "Empty My Nine on the Welfare Line" Garrison himself
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>>57236827
>they're just as bad as the libtards that are trying to remove free speech

They're freely debating, which is the opposite of what the libtards do. An open debate club is not a "hugbox".
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>>57236827
>they're just as bad as the libtards that are trying to remove free speech by enabling it on campus
No, the libtard crybullies forced them into this seclusion.

People who value logic and facts more than somebody else's feelings are being demonized in all sorts of ways. It's textbook fascism.
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>>57235086
>the students who meet underground to practice Free Speech


this is america in 2015
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>>57237068
Who'd have guessed it would come to this.
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>>57237105
You know trigger warning wasn't serious right?
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Somebody say something to give me hope.

I'm naked and afraid.
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>>57237283
PC popped up in the late 80s, early 90s, but who could ever have guessed it would come this far
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>>57237283
Sarcasm filter is fuzzy atm. My mistake.
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>>57237283
Yuri Bezmenov
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>>57237721
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>57237721
There literally is none. America was the last lifeboat of liberty. There is nowhere else to go.
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>>57235756
Looks like I picked a bad day to quit browsing /pol/....
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>>57235086
Garrison has become so fucking based...
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>>57235086
Show us the real version with the jews in it.
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>>57237874
My mother doesn't understand it. She just always tells me, "anon, politically correct is a tongue in cheek joke. Don't take it seriously."

Then I send her links to articles about how out of control the SJW left has gotten. But she's too old to figure out how to click on links on the smartphone I bought her.
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>>57238355
That version would be lame compared to this. Finally, the sleeping goy woke up.
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>>57235086
This is retarded. Brown University is one of the freest places for speech that I've ever seen in the world. If you don't shove it in other people's faces too badly, then you can say whatever the fuck you want to there.
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>>57237874
It's the extreme opposite of Nazi Germany.

Every day I think that things couldn't possibly get any crazier and worse than they already were and things would slowly go back to normal. I am proven wrong every day.

The worst part is that The Netherlands is behind with 'social developments' compared to America. Your trends come flying over after some time. Stuff in /pol/ threads are the future and there's nothing I can do to stop it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAAeVU5jnHo

this is pretty good. America is scary
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>>57238228
Facebook banned Garrison for 24 hours for posting that.
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>>57235086
Lol this is nigger america 2015 people
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>>57236827
Nice, trying to steer the conversation, fuck you bro
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>>57238477
The extreme opposite of nazi germany would be anarchy you fucking loon

PC is just a different side of the same authoritarian coin
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>>57238355
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>>57238118
b-b-but i was a white ally, noble black man
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>>57238566

I'll have to keep this one in mind the next time my sjw friends mention safe spaces.

>So...like segregation?

Should be interesting.
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You know what's really frustrating? The group that hates the SJWs is very, very numerous, and also very politically diverse. Remember Gamergate? That was a larger movement than BLM, and it was largely in response to radical feminism. Also, try talking to your friends and family about some of the shit that's going on. I've seen some outright horrified faces at news like "shutting down men's day which was dedicated to raising awareness of male suicide because feminists complained". People also want a "white lives matter" in protest to black people refusing to acknowledge the real problem (that a lot of violence comes from blacks, and that the cop had good reason to suspect a gun), unaware that such a movement actually exists. I'd say that we're in the majority.

So why isn't there any marching? Not just with the recent behavior of colleges, which is definitely a major problem, but all over? A blob of faceless complaints and hashtags might be better than nothing, but by itself, it's not going to beat these guys. I understand that people are scared of the consequences of fighting back against political correctness and its own brand of bigotry and fascism, but the fact that there's a reason to be scared of speaking is the proof that we need to start pounding our war drums and making it so that policy makers can't ignore the counter-arguments.
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>>57236340
>benghazi

It couldn't be from Benghazi because when that happened Obama was in the Hamptons laughing at the consulate's cries for help over the phone.
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>>57238593
>The extreme opposite of nazi germany would be anarchy you fucking loon
>PC is just a different side of the same authoritarian coin
You are wrong and as cherry on the pie you finish with a personal insult. Don't enter a discussion if you can't behave. Go side with the SJW if all you can do is attack people.
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>>57235086
HOLY CRAP, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MY GF WHO IS A FRESHMEN AT BROWN HAS BEEN SAYING.

We both really enjoy talking about political points and niether one of us gets offended at anything us or others may hold as their views. We are red pilled on different things and some of the small differences in opinions dont bother either one of us. For example, I dont think the death penalty should exist anymore unless the criminal is prone to escape, like El Chapo. She supports it.

Anyways, she had been complaining that everybody there needs there safe space except for a few certain people who she hangs out with. Ill have to tell her about this, maybe she is already a part of this and hasnt mentioned it to me.

Its funny because she used the words "I have never felt so oppressed in my life." Neither one of us has ever been oppressed honestly.
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test
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>>57238621
Zyclon Ben strikes again
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>>57235086
CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
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>>57238910
Seriously how brain dead are you

National socialism is an extremely authoritarian ideology. Cultural marxism/neo-progressivism/whatever else you wanna call it (not liberalism because liberalism is not fucking collectivist) is an extremely authoritarian ideology. I'm sorry you can't handle the truth but your precious natsoc and this are very close to each other on the political spectrum. And the opposite of collectivism is individualism, and the extreme of that is anarchism. Got it?
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>>57239101
This. It's the horseshoe effect in action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
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>>57238621
They barely even need to be edited anymore
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>>57238621
Removed the faggy watermark.
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>in order to have free and open discussions about topics now deemed too sensitive

First order of business: why the fuck is my name Robot Ham?
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>>57238951
reddit go
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Lib here. I'm appalled by campus Nazis suppressing free speech. I'm the true liberal. They are fascists.
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>>57239101
you're an absolute retard. national socialism and communism were nothing alike.

have you ever even read about national socialist policies and positions? the two political systems couldn't be further apart than they already are

stop using that stupid alex jones political spectrum
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>>57235086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY
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>>57239101
>Seriously how brain dead are you
Insult

>>57239101
>I'm sorry you can't handle the truth
Personal attack

>>57239101
>Got it?
Suggestive

Typical sjw tactics.

Your argument even proves my point. I don't see why you are raging against me.
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>>57235086
The cartoon is wrong: doesn't the M=I=C sell guns and ammo? Therefore they do not want to restrict 2A rights.
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>>57239215
This is exactly what I was thinking. Just in a circle or sinusoid. I don't know why finbro went nuts.
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>>57239461
The single largest consumer of guns + ammo is the government, the sporting sector is insignificant in comparison
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>>57235086

> like they couldn't post on delicious 4chan
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>>57238642
>Nordlinger points to a group at Brown that has protested a campus newspaper for allegedly perpetrating "violences … against Native and indigenous peoples, and broader communities of color." The reasoning behind this alleged "violence" is that the newspaper apparently has mostly white writers.


it's a crime to BE white
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>>57239310
Yet another butthurt natsoc who can't accept that extreme collectivism is cancer no matter which side you are on
>>57239422
>Typical sjw tactics.
Ironically the typical "sjw tactics" are to cling onto perceived insults so you can completely ignore the context of the argument, which is precisely what you did
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>>57238118
I don't get it. If the black guy was defending white rights online, how is this supposed to be funny?
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>>57239461
He's referring to the US military (which is ran much like an inefficient bureaucracy). Also, it's one gigantic safe-space for trannies and homosexuals if you haven't noticed already. This has nothing to do with the second amendment.
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>>57239520
300 million can't be insignificant, can it?
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>>57238951
Your gf is going to become a crazed feminist
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>>57239628
300 million aren't going to be replacing their expensive automatic weapons every 10-15 years
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>>57239553
>perceived insults
Okay so it's only an insult if I perceive it to be an insult. Way to go edgelord.
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>>57239567
The white guy was defending blacks online
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>>57238477
They are coming for your Zwarte Piet.
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>>57238526
Oh that's awesome
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>>57238526
This is true.
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>>57235086
Is crybullies a thing now? Would Ben Garrison have taken the next step and started his first meme?
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>>57238865

I also think that it's worth noting that my family as a whole trends towards left or left of center, myself included. We all voted for Obama, before the TPP shit.

Public health care?
Reform prisons to be more geared towards rehabilitation, not macho fantasies?
Protect the consumer?

Yes.


Remove free speech?
Turn universities and workplaces into daycare centers where discussion is censored?
Coerce artists because muh feelings?
The silencing of white men in discussions regarding gender or racial politics?

No.

The far left is the newly accepted group of racist and sexist oppressors. The smoke and mirrors that are trying to make this appear like a movement for equality need to be cleared away and broken respectively, and its proponents need to be treated like leftist-brand fascists that they are.
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>>57235463
This. Fools. Why don't they just come here, or maybe a better board.
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>>57236788
The issue with free speech is that to truly exercise it against taboos in public, you have to be willing to be a bit of a pariah. Most people aren't on board with that. Of course, you can always /pol/.
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>>57240325

Better question: Why don't they march?
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>>57236425
Probably a honey pot
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>>57240133
>Is crybullies a thing now?
Yea, he didn't come up with the word though.
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>>57238526
What absolute bullshit.
Fuck facebook
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>>57239856
Black Petes not allowed! Only white Petes!
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>>57239263
How is he faggy. He's one of our best hopes against progressives. Just left enough that they'll listen to him but just right enough that he's not a kek.
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>>57240421

Exactly. Let it go for a month or so, then the most inflammatory comments get released in a big list with names and pictures attached, as a "Wall of Shame". Then everyone involved has to go through the SJW struggle session.
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>>57240415
>CNN: hate protest of 50 KKK neonazis marches on campus of Brown
>Brown president: it is tragic that in 2015 we still have hateful bigots, and you can be sure that this university will not tolerate this intolerance.

It's like a bad harry potter fanfic, where dumbledore's army don't want to fight the ministry, they just want to talk about forbidden subjects.
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>>57240671
>Yea, he didn't come up with the word though.
that's mighty brave talk dissing the racial pain hurricane
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>>57240773
>We will not tolerate intolerance
>We are intolerant of intolerance
Fucking morons
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Why is non-emotional debate such a hard concept. I should wear a sign that says 'I will literally argue any position you ask me to' and hang out in the college square. Did five years of debate, competitive and demosthenian society fun stuff. Learning the merits and flaws of all sides is something completely lost on he current generation of liberal students.
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>>57239732
Offence is never given, only taken you fucknugget

Pointing out insults must have won you many internet arguments
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>>57240773
This really, the media is 100% on their side because the media is made up of former college liberals\SJW\crybullies\whatevers

They are true believers and they believe that they should use their power in the media to "End white privilege" and all the other stuff.

The ones who aren't true believers know that racial and social strife sells and will paint it out to be a race war even if it's not.
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>>57240782
I was actually hoping the One Man Klan did come up with did. I'm not going to substitute reality with a fabrication so it flows the same way as my feels.
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>>57235086

Is the guy with the feminine big mouth that's yelling suppose to be anyone in particular?
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>>57240987
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>>57239533
Someone tip them off that the paper is white too.
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>>57238228
>>57238526
>>57239073
>>57239256
>>57240133
>>57240686
yfw Ben Garrison probably has become a poltard like all of us before him

>general right wing thinker but has his morals too
>cartoons start getting Zyklon'd by this "/pol/" thing
>discover /pol/ and be floored by the amount of "extreme views"
>but... can't look away...
>damn I actually agree with this shit..
>omg,..
>/pol/ was right
>Becomes Zyklon Ben
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>>57240773

Yeah, but isn't that exactly why marches need to happen? We've reached a point where people have reason to be afraid of open debate. They might not be thrown in jail, but they will lose their jobs, their degrees, and get expelled from their schools, which is basically just as bad. Events which the new fascists don't like are also being censored and shut down. We're looking at the start of mainstream systemic censorship, oppression, and injustice.

And it's not going to go away if people just hole up in their living rooms and wait for it to get even worse. That's what people have been doing in response to political correctness for the past 25 years, and you see where it's taking us.

The public needs to wage war on the current trends. If CNN wants to be a propaganda channel for the oppressors, then they need to be a target of the protests. The longer we wait, the tougher it will become to win the war. If we keep waiting, things might deteriorate to a point where the police come in and start throwing tear gas at us and putting us in handcuffs for hate speech.

"The only thing that's required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
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>>57241096
Your reasoning is childish and complemented with insults.

You didn't have an argument at all. It was just raging and nitpicking at trivial details. Which by the way you only did because you took my statement the way it suited you best.

Having a shitty day or something?
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>>57239263
I wonder if he sighs while drawing these cartoons thinking "theyre just going to edit a jew face onto this guy"
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>>57241488
you are so right, you fucking nazi

>1488 in your post
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>>57241259
it doesn't matter really, but we need to post going rambo on sambo's cartoon as often as possible when using it, it's super offensive to them
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>>57241540
Explain what is childish about it

Explain how it is nitpicking

I bet you won't
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>>57241653
Well, you're a Finn on /pol/, for starters.
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>>57235086
oh fuck I feel bad for her, coming from Norway and to such a fucking keked nation where free speech is limited so much rofl.

>tfw a comedian made a joke about our king on television
>tfw king probably laughed at the remark

If that happened in America you'd see so many steaming libfags demand the cancellation of the show.
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>>57241945
america has a king? stop sniffing paint
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>>57241653
Going on at an angle that's pretty much perpendicular to the discussion focussing on my comparisation of Nazi Germany and pointing out trivial details to justify your insults isn't childish or nitpicking at all.

But it's okay brother. You had a shitty day and probably another one ahead of you. Hope you feel better.
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>>57241653
its not, youre right
nederlands btfo
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>>57242043
read my comment again you illiterate fuck
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>>57242095
You literally didn't explain anything at all

I knew it
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>>57242043
You could deduce he was talking about the American equivalent of a present day European king.
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>>57235086
>tfw Brown student

Holy Shit how????? Where do I sign up???
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>>57241488
edmund burke notwithstanding, the individuals who engage in such a march would be absolutely pilloried. they would be crushed.

there is also a danger of the protests being too small. 10 guys saying "w-we want free speech" against a flash mob of a thousand useful idiots turned out at a moment over failbook and twatter (which conveniently ban and censor anyone who disagrees with those zombies) to overwhelm them will strengthen the enemy, not the other way around.

afterwards, the SJWs among their employers, professors, or administrators will fall all over themselves to ruin the lives of any protesters to the greatest degree possible.

and what's worse is if all that doesn't happen.

imagine that the anti #blackcrimesmatter movement actually gains support. it won't make the dindus go away. it will strengthen their resolve, and their delusional idea that there are countless covert racists in the country.

the natural conclusion of that is street clashes. that will make the /k/onflict look like peanuts. we're talking wiemar republic SS versus Bolsheviks fighting in the streets.
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>>57242205
you need to network via failbook, apparently.
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>>57236340
Hilary was asleep at her home during bengazi
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>>57242205
meet me on the quad at 1:35 am sharp
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>>57242298
3spooky5me you shitposting aussie
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>>57242370
suit yourself, if you decide to come, the password is sic semper tyrannus
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>>57242140
no

>>57242195
a hereditary sovereign monarch for life?
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>>57242446
Well which quad then? I'm assuming your using a proxy
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>>57242521
keeney
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>>57242560
You googled that didn't you fag, tell me the top thing on todays morning mail then.
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>>57242228

Obviously, the events need to be organized months in advance. If you just have ten faggots showing up to protest in front of CNN, that'll just make you look foolish.

I think that you're greatly underestimating the number of people who are tired of this shit, though. As I said earlier in the thread, look at Gamergate, which was largely a movement against radical feminism, and was a larger movement than BLM. Also, people tend to be outright disgusted when they hear what the crybullies are up to. The biggest problems would be advertising the counter-movements and convincing people that the ten faggot scenario won't happen.

Also, yes, this will get ugly. That's what tends to happen when you're trying to debunk what's currently considered to be socially acceptable. People in power and people who benefit typically don't like it. That's why it's called a fight. However, can you imagine what our country would look like right now if everyone cowered away from corruption and zealous authoritarianism the minute that things got dangerous? You'd be eating out of a gutter and going to work every day under conditions comparable to China's, not posting comfortable in your chair on the internet.

Consider this: If you don't fight, the only possible outcome here is defeat.

"Freedom isn't free."
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>>57242670
staff forum on pathways to diversity and inclusion
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>>57242446
MEIN Negger
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>>57242791
Holy shit that's online as well. Ok answer this, you got one minute. What do we call the ugliest building on campus
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>>57242960
your house
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>>57242768
>organized months in advance
fine. so you get 15 people instead of ten, and the enemy has ten times what they otherwise would have.

face it, people will simply not demonstrate the way you seem to believe they will.the proof? they already don't. this brown group is the largest resistance so far, and it is explicitly covert.

>look at Gamergate
good, look at gamergate. it was utterly defeated, and is proof that the media blindly promotes the side of the SJWs. outside of breitbart, there was zero support for the good guys on that one. go home gamer girl.

>can you imagine what our country would look like right now if everyone cowered away from corruption and zealous authoritarianism the minute that things got dangerous?
yes. you're living in it.

>Consider this: If you don't fight, the only possible outcome here is defeat.
"marches" aren't going to get you anywhere. if they did, the communists would have taken over sixty years ago, and there would be no republican party.
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>>57242960
anon, please.
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>>57243010
Looks like your lying you shitpost king
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>>57236371
>>57236440
But bin Laden died in 2002
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>>57240280
The best thing is that not even the shit Obama promised happened.

-Redefined unemployment so he could say the economy was recovering when it was actually getting worse
-Obamacare, enough said
-Still at war in the Middle East
-10x worse than Bush and the Patriot Act
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>>57243018

Gamergate's big mistake was that they stayed behind the safety of their computers on the internet. They don't make their voices heard at conventions and the like, even if it meant gathering out in front instead of inside. They didn't gather outside Ubisoft, EA, or Intel when they gave lip service to the SJWs. They didn't forcefully push their way into "debates", so as to make sure that SJWs couldn't control the narrative. They certainly had the numbers to make sure that they weren't drowned out, but they didn't make good use of them.

GG is why I'm so insistent that you can't win this fight using the internet alone. People NEED to leave their houses and show up to events in person.


>"marches" aren't going to get you anywhere

Marches will get you everywhere. They were the main tools of feminism and black activism, and they continue to be their choice means of making their point now that they've turned into the oppressors. Marches are why we're facing this problem to begin with.
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>>57239263
The faggy watermark came from the guy who commissioned Garrison to draw this. He spent his hard earned patreon pounds on it. Show some fucking respect.
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>>57243411

The problem is that the Republican congress wasn't about to follow him. They'd go against policies just for the sole purpose of opposing Obama. As such, we got a bunch of terrible compromises that nobody likes.

I won't say that he could have been a great president, but he could have at least gotten America a proper public health care system if he had a Democratic congress.
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>>57243428
>They didn't gather outside Ubisoft, EA, or Intel when they gave lip service to the SJWs
why would they? the coverage would be "a dozen misogynist nerds whine outside intel." the shots would be as unflattering as possible, showing pale, anorexic, or obese men either with pimples, or balding.

gamergate's real fuckup was antagonizing the press. of course, they were spot on in their criticism. the press is universally corrupt. the thing is that they also circle the wagons to protect that corruption. and so, press coverage was universally one sided.

you know, with other controversial issues with which their ideology disagrees, they'll at least put on opposing representatives, if only to provide a foil for their main argument. not with gamergate. the anitas and zoe quinns, and those who agree with them just asserted that men are evil on the internet, and there was no other interpretation given.

by the way, marches never advanced any cause. not a feminazi one, and not a black one. all they do is galvanize the base, and let people who already agree with the message point to the march to encourage one another.

the real reason those movements have become normalized is that they seized the commanding heights of the culture. specifically, childhood education, academia, the popular arts, the courts, and the lawmaking apparati.
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>>57235086
Well fuck, we knew it was coming
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>>57242140
>telling someone to read something
>calling them illiterate
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>>57235086
>have to hide to exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL rights

>STILL voting for the Democratic nominee next year


dumbfucks NTR baka desu oniichan
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>>57235086

When you've gone too far left for Norway and Sweden you are fucking looney.
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>>57235086
first rule of Free Speech club is we're not free to talk about Free Speech club
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>>57243756
>gamergate's real fuckup was antagonizing the press. of course, they were spot on in their criticism. the press is universally corrupt. the thing is that they also circle the wagons to protect that corruption. and so, press coverage was universally one sided.

I think the clearest proof of that is that when the Mizzou SJW nuts turned on the press, they finally started getting negative press coverage.

In fact the no-press shit spread to other campuses after that and so did the hitpieces from the media.

Just coincidence, right?
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>>57239215
No, this theory is stupid. The left/right dichotomy has always been stupid. Nazis were viewed as leftists prior to WW2 and Hitler going full Hitler. Leftists just call everyone who disagree with them Right Wing. Sowell wrote about it, and so have many others.
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>>57241565

Fucking kek probably every single time.time
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>>57243971
left or right is bs
the radicals are bad on either side
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>>57238477
Read up on the Khmer Rouge

it's the high water mark for marxists and absolutely what these SJWs are most like

I went to the killing fields and S-21, it's insane that right wingers are shut down by invoking the Holocaust but the progressive left aren't shut down by the Cambodian genocide... when it was more recent
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>>57235768
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>>57241084
Show me the first step, sempai
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>>57243924
there used to be an adage in this country. "you don't pick fights with people who buy ink by the barrel." the implication is that they'll have broader influence on public opinion than you will, and will turn it against you.

people don't really say that any more, though. the press won't let them.
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>>57243756

The press was the main target of the criticism to begin with.

> the coverage would be "a dozen misogynist nerds

As if that wasn't the coverage that we ended up with. By not going out in public, we ensured the narrative was going to continue unhindered.

>dozens

We could have dwarved Project Chanology protests. I'm sure of it. And since people were actually angry, it would have been more than just one or two events.

The press is dangerous, but it's not unbeatable. You don't think that the press didn't side against black activists or feminists when being a feminist or black activists was actually dangerous? You don't think that they didn't face several propaganda machines who tried their hardest to smear them as some of their opponents? They gave such a loud voice out in public that they were noisier than any propaganda piece that tried to smear them, and eventually, the press was forced to play their message straight.

So here's my question: What's your alternative? Do we just accept that we're powerless and that the white man is destined for legally enforced silence? Without even trying? I think that your great, great grandpa who participated in a sit-in strike and fought the police to win a seemingly hopeless battle against millionaires (early 1900s millionaires; basically our billionaires) is rolling over in his grave at your cowardice.
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>>57235437
>posting the edited version
Get a load of this shill.
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>>57243564
I like Sargon personally, but I'm not a fan of watermarks in general. The work should speak for itself, it doesn't need your logo feces on it.
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>>57244348
>You don't think that the press didn't side against black activists or feminists when being a feminist or black activists was actually dangerous?
of course not. just look to history. the press printed pictures of the rapist emmett till like it was going out of style. they fomented the controversy to the benefit of the radicals, they did not work to suppress it.

no one in my family was so faggy as to ever have participated in something as gay as a "sit in." that's complete hippy bullshit that never accomplished anything. nor do people actually clash with police just because their a little bit offended.

do you know what motivates people to pull out their pitchforks and their torches?

starvation. hopelessness. a sense that they'll die if they do nothing, so fuck it, might as well die doing something.

none of which is present in the #blackcrimesmatter movement. they're pretenders. they're just being uppity blacks because they think they'll be allowed to riot.

it's just that the whites who hold their leashes are just as neutered. they're pretending, as well. being just as phony to maintain a veneer of civil society which hasn't been real in black inner cities in decades.

high minded free speech notions are nowhere near immediate enough to cause anyone to do anything about them. but even if they were, marching would be the exact wrong thing to do.
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>>57239303
>hey guys I'm le atheist gay rights supporter, but i'm totally redpilled, trust me, I hate SJWS

>>>/r/eddit
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>>57243808
illiterate
JˈlJt(ə)rət/Submit
adjective
1.
unable to read or write.

I see the "stupid american" meme is alive and well
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>>57244616

In the late 1800s and early 1900s, our working conditions were very similar to China's. We were paid in peanuts, factories were dangerous, and we had to pay for our own materials from our already lousy checks. Furthermore, the quality of products were dangerously bad. The sociopaths in charge really gave no shits about anything other than fattening their wallets. Muh free market, you say? Good luck with that when almost every other employer is doing the same shit. You need to eat.

Sit-in strikes played a vital role in breaking this status quo. It shut down the workplaces until the owners agreed to negotiate pay and safety regulations. Afterwards, unions were formed to ensure that the same thing didn't happen again. And so, the middle class was born.

>the press printed pictures of the rapist emmett till like it was going out of style.

The *modern* press loves showing those tragic pictures. You'll also sometimes see racist news reports showing the bigotry of the era.

>starvation. hopelessness. a sense that they'll die if they do nothing, so fuck it, might as well die doing something.

The prospect of losing your career over looking at a girl or trying to make your city safer is starvation and hopelessness. It's already happening, but we need to stop it before it becomes even more wide spread.
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>>57237874
Next time you crop a poll or statistic, kindly include what the question was about in the first place.
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>>57245440
View of America
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To make another point about Gamergate's failures: Despite the size of the movement, the only way that non-gamers learned about it was via their friends and family telling them. The way that GG fought its war made it very easy to cover up, and to smear them on those rare occasions that they mentioned it, even though their numbers were so goddamn huge and spread over several major websites.

The good thing about people holding signs and chanting out in public is that people will see what the movement is about and possibly meet some of the representatives, regardless of what the press has to say. Furthermore, censuses taken of GG shows that they weren't the socially conservative fat white male basement dwellers that Kotaku would have liked you to believe. People passing through the streets of Atlanta would have seen a racially and politically diverse group of men and women. It limits the press's power to control information.
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>>57245299
i'm sorry to say that is a largely revisionist view of history. sit-ins never helped changing any poor working conditions. militant picket lines may have, but even then they were at best marginally effective.

unions, also, were largely overrated. what changed things were individual toughs who weren't afraid to crack the heads of scabs. they were opposed by police, the army, or the pinkertons who were called out to bust them.

incidentally, the middle class existed long before the progressive era. they were called the bourgeoisie.

if you think the modern mass media is different from media in the past, then again you are misinterpreting history. the zimmerman coverage, for instance, is classic yellow journalism.

getting fired in our contemporary era is not the same as starving to death because of a scarcity of grain.
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>>57246096
and you're vastly overestimating gamergate's numbers. who conducted your so-called surveys? sure, it was a large number of the people who actually are the consumers in the industry, but that's still a tiny subset of the population as a whole.
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>>57246103

>parts of history that don't fit into my world view are revisionist

Nice talking to you.
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>>57236110
YURI actually rules. R.I.P. now though. Whatever.
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Between Jews, legacies, niggers, spics, intl students, afletes, how the fuck is there room for a White kid at any ivy league school anymore?
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>>57246180
>parts of history that are explicitly written by communists to distort what happened are fact

don't let the door hit you.
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>>57244856
Did you genuinely not recognize the joke or do you just pretend to be humorless?
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>>57246358

Let me give you a few statements that the "revisionist" argument can be compared to:

>As a man, you're inherently blind to the fact that you rape.
>As a white person, you can't understand the suffering of the black man.
>Only someone who hates women would disagree with this.

It's a fallacious means of shutting down the argument and dismissing all possible (perfectly valid) counters that your opponent might present to you. People could post a carefully made 300 page document based in fact, and you'd just claim that it was all revisionist. There's no winning.

As such, continuing becomes useless the moment that "revisionist" enters the discussion.
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>>57246813
oh, you could compare anything to anything. i could compare your post to a pile of shit. i'd probably have a more apt comparison than yours, too.

but i am dismissive of the communist narrative. you sort of assert that consumer goods were wildly unsafe in the past as though that's an absolute fact. if pressed, you would probably cite upton sinclaire.

but if conditions were as terrible as you seem to say they were, there would be none of us left. you say that sit-ins and public marches magically changed society. even though none of those things EVER had the effect you attribute to them.

you really need to stop suckling at the cultural marxist teat if you want to understand what really happened. who controls the present controls the past, as the man said.
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I heard a great quote on the radio today, "How are you supposed to know what someone is offended by until they're offended by it?" Sums it up pretty perfectly, how the fuck can you reasonably make laws protecting people from being offended?
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>>57243068

>these are the people that go to Ivy League schools

No wonder brown is fucked. Jesus Christ you're retarded.
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>>57239310
So sorry Ameritard but you're wrong and Finland is right.
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>>57247325

They want you to break the law and then they can cash in on the guilt.
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>>57240773
>It's like a bad harry potter fanfic, where dumbledore's army don't want to fight the ministry, they just want to talk about forbidden subjects.

Throw in the newspapers saying that anyone against the ministry is evil and you have actual Harry Potter.

J.K Rowling predicted this shit.
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>>57238477
Thank God our culture is a bit more resistant for cry baby attitudes, and we have a lot of writers / comedians that will boldly lay down the truth. But still , scary If it gets momentum. Even say a #sexism2015 thing on one of the national television shows, luckily just briefly.
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>>57243617
>if he had a Democratic congress.
>if
uh, dude, brush up on recent history
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>>57238477
>The worst part is that The Netherlands is behind with 'social developments' compared to America.
what? you people have prostitutes roaming the streets, and marijuana brownie cafes.

i know it's true, i saw it on eurotrip.
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>>57241364
Pokemon red-pill
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>>57235086
Shoot me in the face
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>>57235086

We Les Miserables now

Do you think we'll get a musical in a few hundred years lads?
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>>57243920
"Yeb's dead, baby. Yeb's dead"
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>>57248230
Fun fact, marijuana here isn't fully legal. It's in a bit of a grey area.
It's fine to sell it in a coffee shop and such, but growing enough to sell in a place like that isn't. You're still only allowed 5 plants I think it is per person and there isn't really any exception.
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>>57248732
Oh, so it's only FIVE plants per person. Well, that makes it all okay then.

I guess it's a good thing you're importing musli- I mean, entrepreneurs. When each one has 4 wives and five children by each, they can grow 105 plants for their hashish cafe.
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>>57248859
Per person/property. You can't say 100 people live here, that's why I have 500 plants.
If it's a commercial quantity, you're not allowed to grow it. Which makes it difficult for coffee shops to keep up with demand.
It's not strictly legal when they buy from their suppliers.
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>>57249002
Oh, no. I get you bra. The muz-I mean, entrepreneurs, are growing their plants in the closets in the four different homes their wives live in. At government expense. Because 3 of the 4 women are "single mothers." It's not illegal for a dutchman to have mistresses, right!
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>>57249348
NL offers a lot less than you think for them.
Syrians were spreading messages around among themselves not to come here. Much less chance to get in, much less in the way of benefits.
Besides, coffee shop owners are usually skittish around new suppliers and rather stick with long-time ones.
Shop owners lose a lot if they get caught and there's a lot of distrust between some communities already and that's even before all this when Theo was killed.
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What's going ON here?
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/pol/ BTFO
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>>57250059
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>>57250165

Even better

>pff... nothing personnel, kid
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>>57250317
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>>57236907
Top lel
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>like cmon
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>>57248710
Underrated post
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>muh gamergate

I hate Zoe Quinn but she literally didnt "fuck for review scores". How embarrassing to be such a mental midget, repeating a bald faced lie with not a single critical thought.
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>>57238566
No, see, Wikipedia clears this up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_space
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>>57249774
why don't you try watching it to get an idea of the context you fucking shitposter
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>>57250949
Where do you think I got the fucking screenshot?

Piss off Sargon.
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>>57235086
> undeground free speech
I guess North Korea can say it has free speech now..the undeground kind
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>>57238448
It's 2015. Come on.
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>>57238593
This.
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>>57251040
>Where do you think I got the fucking screenshot?
/pol/
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>>57239310
They were very similar, especially Maoism and Nazism. Stalinism had a globalist multi-culturalism angle added to it, because of the many Jews running the revolution and Stalin himself who was a racial minority.
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>>57247920
JK Rowling copied all her political settings straight from history books, it was almost lazy writing. What's happening now is nothing new and nothing that hasn't happened in various ways all throughout history.
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>>57241451
>"Not after what I've gone through." "I want revenge at this point."

reminder Ben Garrison literally wants revenge on a jew

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34292809
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>robotham
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>>57252740
He's just an edgelord
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>All these britfags and Yuropoors
>Not realizing that they literally invented this cancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUS_No_Platform_Policy
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>>57235086
I'm too important to read this someone sum it up for me.
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>>57235086
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>>57256535
are you srs ireland
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>>57235086

Well, at least there's some hope. The real solution is an extermination of the media that supports and enables these radical Leftist traitors.
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>>57256535

Bear rape
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>>57257034
not really just lazy.
>>57257222
Good.
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>>57237721
Close your eyes and pretend it's not happening.
I'm rich enough not to care anymore.
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>>57247244
>>57246813
there must be a difference of at least 30 points of iq between these 2 posters

>>57246813
don't bother, really. im not saying this site doesnt allow serious, rational and intelligent discussion. but in this particular ocasion your arguing with a loud moron with barely more than minimal knowledge of history and politics. he does not represent the entire userbase of this site
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>>57258506
>all this ironing in one post
nigger, you're barely self-aware
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>>57235086
>robot ham
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>>57235829
Phooey
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>>57235086
First day:

>No Muslims celebrated, RACIST liar!

First week:

>Ok it was dozens in New York, and dozens in New Jersey, and a few in Texas, not thousands!

One month later:

>Why don't Muslims have the same 1st Ammendment right to celebrate anything they want to, even 9/11?

This is how cultural marxism works, people. It's real. Your country is at stake. Wake up.

NYPost has deleted the original:

http://nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/32549.htm

but it's still available on WaybackMachine:

https://archive.is/s3oio

CBS has tried to claim it has no stories in it's archives verifying Trump's statements, but the following clip was found in a private VHS collection recorded off TV broadcasts that week:

https://youtu.be/3auKMHkZJnQ

Dan Rather on Letterman (skip to 12:33)

http://www.visibility911.org/video-dan-rather-on-david-letterman-1-week-after-911/

Mayor Rudi Giuliani

https://youtu.be/hdk7snHe0kM

The media really IS this controlled, this Orwellian. Don't be manipulated.
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>>57235086
>mfw Rhode Island fag
>mfw can't speak freely at Rhode Island College because Feminist club gets 88,000 bucks a year and making a club is impossible because budget for other clubs is miniscule
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>>57259397
>mfw
How to cope with all this knowledge? I can't let my mind absorb all this, I know too much, the world is crumbling around us and the majority aren't standing up to the governments and their treacherous spawn. Its saddening know our western civilisation will fall because of these people, why? How do you guys cope with this shit?
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>>57259688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaNYcZmu3to
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>>57238477

wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
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>>57259397
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>>57259994
REEE, No more redpill, give me that purple pill senpai. I'm going to sleep and when I wake up all will be good again
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>>57243756
We are all fucked here in america
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>>57261686
Not quite. We can still fight the liberals back. I want to start my own free speech group next semester at my uni too. Get all my red pilled friends on the action too.
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>>57237721

God bless you.
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>>57241451
/pol memes powerful

/pol can meme anything into being
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