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How powerful is Russia?
Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
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>>56985419
>How powerful is Russia?
Overrated desu senpai
>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
Yes but if they declared war on Turkey the west would fuck them up senpai
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>>56985419
Take the poo to the wall
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>How powerful is Russia?
Strong, but still overated.
They are rather can be compared to the West European powers then with murica
>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
Turkey, but not NATO
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>>56985501
implying they can defeat turkey desu.
kek desu.
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>>56985866
Enjoy your glass, roach.
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>>56985419
Russia can maintain and supply an army in action indefinitely, Turkey has to import most of it's weapons and munitions from overseas.
Russia in total war grew stronger against the Nazi's despite huge losses It managed to outproduce the Nazi's with all their German and conquered territories production capabilities combined.
Don't poke the bear.
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>>56985866
Russia would maybe take a lot of casualties, but they would still stomp you sandniggers into the ground desu.
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>>56985866

implying you aren't crapping your pants already mustafa
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>>56985419
Depends. Turkey the country? Sure.
A turkey? No.
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>>56985866
Even armenians defeated you keks 3 or 4 times and they are about as stronk as the local police.
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>>56985419
The Brazilian military could defeat the Russian military.
No. Russia is weak, a paper tiger.
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>>56985560
Take the weed to the Lmao
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>>56986055
How does it feel that you had one chance to recover Constantinople and you still got btfo ?
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>>56986194
Calm down there, Amigo. Your 2 Soldiers stationed in a Favela can't compare to the Russian military.
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>>56985996
It's not exactly hard to outproduce a country fighting a three front war, that's also being bombed to shit. Not to mention those idiots didn't declare total war until 1943, meaning their economy was still focused on producing consumer goods, rather than focusing their entire country's economy towards war, like other countries did.
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>>56986082
This desu senpai. Ivan is afraid of turkeys.
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>>56985419
Of course not. Russia can barely maintain a shitty bombing campaign in Syria because their weapons and logistics are so fucking bad. If we are taking like 20 year war sure Russia eventually might, but they'll exhaust so much money and men the country will crumble first.

So no. It's an easy no
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>>56986279

Check the news Mehmet.You are withdrawing all your tanks from eastern thrace to syrian border.

It appears that we will have another chance desu.
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>>56986162
>armenians defeated Turks
>Armenians lose almost all of their historic lands to Turks
>still cry about "muh genocide"
What is the Turkish-Armenian war?
hint: even with French and British backing Armenians still got fucked
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Easy
>Turkey-YES
>NATO-NOPE
If they attack Turkey NATO gets involved. Nothing will ever happen because of this.
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>>56986492
Can you still afford an army, Milo?
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>>56986194
You guys have an aircraft carrier?
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>>56986301
vodka nigger, Brasil is fighting in the two most deadly environment known to soldiers. Urban and jungle. vodka niggers don't stand a chance against Brazilians. If not the jungle would kill the vodka nigger in a instant the urban combat in the favela will do it slowly.

Just go and stop posting you dont know shit.
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>>56986611
And Russia has a working one?
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>>56986464
haha these words are so ironical and funny, change all the words from Russia to USA then it sounds more real, here, let me help you:

>Of course not. USA can barely maintain a shitty bombing campaign in Iraq because their weapons and logistics are so fucking bad. If we are taking like 20 year war sure USA eventually might, but they'll exhaust so much money and men the country will crumble first.
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>>56986194
*an outdated carrier retired from the french navy
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Russia just got BTFO by Turkroaches. Doesn't get much more embarrassing than that.
>b-but Putin made some threats on t.v. and is going to stop trading with Turkey now.
Wow, what a tough guy. Turkey shits all over him and his best response is to embargo them and run to Israel for help. And he thinks he can convince anyone that Russia is a legitimate superpower.
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Russia has nukes, /thread.
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>>56985419
Russia would totally crush Turkey if NATO wasn't involved.
Russia could even launch 2 of it's newest nukes and completely level the two biggest cities in Turkey..
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>>56985419
Turkey - the roaches that squat on the lands of Byzantium? Of course.

A real turkey? Probably not, it'll just dodge nuclear missiles.
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>>56986825
If I would insult your country would you instantly nuke me? If anyone insults you personally do you instantly shoot him? Internet tough guy if I ever saw one.
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>>56986606


Prepare your anus Hasan.
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>>56986464
Russias bombing campaign in syria has done more then the amerikeks bombing in syria and theyve only been there for a few months now
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>>56985419
Votka niggers are pure shit when it comes to fighting away from there borders, don't have the experience and logistics for that. They are currently at 360.000 man from itch re 150.000?? combat ready. Equipment is outdated gets slowly replaced. If they decide to wage war on turkey Turks fuck em even harder then the SU24. Turkey is mostly hilly mountain hard to control and move around. And if they go all other boarders get weakened hard. It will be a invite for invasion.
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>>56986194

>"We can defeat the Russian military. Russia is weak."

Famous last words of various leaders.
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>>56986712
But the brazil monkeys would kill each other for drug money before the russkies would even deploy. In fact they might be dead already as we speak and nobody has noticed it.
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>>56986315
I'm pretty sure the Nazi's bombed the fuck out of Russia too. The fact is that the Russians have a great capacity to produce war materials, ships, planes, tanks and the Turks don't. If there was no NATO Turkey would be absolutely fucked.
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>>56985419

>How powerful is Russia?

quite powerful, number 3 most powerful in the world in fact, but turkey is not a weak military as well, ranking in the top 10

>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?

if it was 1on1 yes. even though on some aspects they have weaker technology, they have superior numbers in aircraft, tanks and ships, but they would have millions of casualties and the economic impact would last for a decade.

turkey is naturally protected from all sides by mountains and is in a very strategic position in between europe, asia and africa, that is why western powers wouldn't allow an invasion of turkey

on a 1on1 situation the only entrance russia would get is in thracia, they would have to fight through istanbul and the aegean provinces to get into anatolia and even then except for the central provinces the whole damned country is mountainous terrain so the rebellions would last for a century if they tried to stay
picture related

let me redpill you on this whole situation, there will be no war. russia will block trade of non-essentials with turkey and erdogan will drag his feet. turkmens in the north syria will be supplied and turkey will assault local non-wanted terrorists with mortars and perhaps snipers. in a few years the terrorist opposition in syria will die down to a non-problem and assad will become a russian puppet
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No one can defeat any nato nation in a "war" which is why they wont have a war. Russia has zero interest in being BTFO by the US
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>>56986825
>Economic sanctions
>90.000 turks in Russia lost their jobs
>S-400 systems in Syria
>More overall military equipment
How exactly is that BTFO'd, shill?
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>>56986162
>>56986524
a relative of mine told me something about the massacre a month ago but its too brutal to share. unfortunately though, we did kill those that rebelled and those who "could" under suspicion. had to kill them armenians, it was us or them and it seriously ended up as our win as we literally massacred them.
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>>56987010
compering the Brazilian solider to some nigger tir communist cartel members. Just leave and don't come back.
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>>56986926
Turkey shot down a Russian plane in Syrian airspace just for fun to push Putin's shit in.
That warrants a response from someone who talks big game like he does.
Not sure what you're trying to say.
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>>56986965
You mean like the last two hilly mountain in which they waged war against tiny shit countries? They do have experience you are just shitposting Bernd. They have 2.8 million soldiers, no clue about combat ready though and not all of their equipment is outdated, just the majority. S-400 along with ancient navy would be enough to remove the kebab, they don't get the newest top of the line tech from USA either or do you think that f-16 is brand new?
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>>56986957
Says....? They've been bombing Rebels more than anything
>>56986737
Yes because the USA can't invade s country and keep it as long as we want

>Japan, Germany, Iraq, afghan.

We just kind of go where we want and you know it
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>>56986194
You guys cant even keep your drug cartels in check lmao
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>>56986965
Either a Turk or nobidea from military. Turkey can't even reach mainland Russia with their weapons. Top kek
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>>56987158
I am saying that politics are not like COD you burger. You just dodged my question so you are a pussy I guess. Maybe you should run for office and see how people laugh in your face if you decide to nuke everyone who disagrees with you, should be fun.

>>56987135
>brazil
>not cartel members
top kek
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>>56985660
>Turkey, but not NATO

delusional
NATO is not an army, but a cheap illusion of an army.
Why ?
Because I don't see how Turkish and Japanese troops could be led by US or German Etat-Major.

It didn't worked with Hitler, why it should work now ?

Real figure is that Russia has an army, while Europe no longer have one.
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>>56987135
At least the "nigger tier communist cartel members" know how to treat mudslimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf2SZ_gjtA0
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>>56987044
>wouldn't allow
>western powers

topkek ivanov. topkek.

obama would impose some more "sanctions" while everything went to hell. they would not do shit. obama is a pussy with a 4000 foot long dick(military) and is too scared to use it.
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>>56987044
How would you even attack Russia? You would never even reach Crimea m8. They can shoot missiles at you from home.
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>>56985866
heh of course russia would defeat turkey as long as nato stays out
its not even up for debate
lol why do we even reply to this idiot anymore, he keeps triggering us
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>>56985419
As Russians claim themselves:

> " Stronger than the world think they are, weaker than they themselves think they are " - anon Ruski
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>>56987175
>Can't defeat PKK
>Supported Azergayjan and still lost against the shithole Armenia

Seriously, Mehmet
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>>56987175
You think Russkis have brand new tech? all airplanes are su 35 and t14 only. Nigger please I start to think your are a Australian with proxy.

Nobody has uber F16 as it was sold by Americans they made sure nobody gets american uber etch. they made sure they can buy from other nations radar weapons. Like french radars and weapons or British or Israeli. Or domestic ones.
Just a little info so you don't lave dump this thread.
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>>56987044
>mfw shitposting t*rks get conscripted but flea to Europe and russians get all of anatolia empty.
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>>56986194
Favelado pls
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>>56987290
why should they, Turkey is not the aggressor. NATO is defensive pact. no need for that.
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>>56987495
Turkey wasn't even involved in that war
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they could defeat a hundred turkeys
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>>56987520
Yes exactly and su-35 can keep up with f-16 unless you can prove me wrong...point is they don't have to do shit due to s-400. Think before you speak.
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If Russia glassed Turkey would the west really care? I can't imagine Americans especially, wanting to die in mass for a muzzie country.
I mean it would be embarrassing if the west retaliated and we nuked each other for fucking Turkey.
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Without NATO involvement, Russia would crush Turkey. The Turks have been unable to defeat the Kurdish Peshmerga in over how many years. Turkey is biting off way more that it can chew.
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>>56987610
Why do you fight a war where your enemy can level you from inside his borders and you can't even reach his bases?
>>56987715
They don't even have to fly any planes. Just anti aircraft in Crimea and long range missiles from home.
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>>56986194
Kek.
Loser only has military budget of 30 billion.
I doubt you can even defeat South Korea
Let alone the Russian military
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>>56987832
Brazil can't project force in favellas let alone in a city within their own borders, they are an African country.
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>>56987753
The US populace has supported involvement in wars for stupider reasons, you underestimate the power of propaganda .
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>>56987610
Shooting down planes of your allies against IS over Syria AFTER it has left your airspace is an act of war. STFU mehmet.
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>>56987715
Su 35 cant even reach turkey from Russia. Except your implying they station them in Syria in arty range and with that few numbers Turks can easy swarm them. S400 don't have the range from Russia to do shit. Except you imply the ones in Syria. kek nigger.

S400 has no xray radar and the hills and mountains shield every attack pretty good. Turks are in range even before thy can shoot blast the s400 out of the ground. think before you post.

World is no dish with no obstruction and take geography in account.
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>>56987377
>T. France.
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>>56987966
Maybe, but think about the scenario: Russia nukes Turkey, and the latter is unable to retaliate with equal weapons by itself without the US permission(like Italy, they have NATO nukes but no auth codes).
So what happens next really? NATO gangs up on Russia?
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>>56987610
>Turkey is not the aggressor.


Didn't they just shoot down a Jet that they KNEW was no threat ? Have you not seen the news...
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>>56988090
>There is only Russia or Syria near Turkey and Syria only has 1 spot where Russians can place s-400.
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>>56988090
Turkey has no destroyers XD
>>Naval battle they would get rekt.
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>>56987995
entering airspace with a warplane without permission and multiple warnings even thru diplomatic channels ins a war act.

>AFTER it has left your airspace

at least that one is right. But where dose it stand that we are allies? When was that decided? NATO and west is not supporting Assad and Russia in keeping its basses. FSA is not IS and NATO and West will not support the bombing of said groups. USA and Turkey did warn every one who attacks there protected rebels has to expect consequences. Vodka nigger your far from home so watch out or this will be the biggest lose of Russian lives out side of Russia in history.
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>>56985419
Easily.

The problemas is if NATO join the war too
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>>56988322
Exactly. The whole Russian military doctrine is ideal for steamrolling Turkey. Putin would take the chance if he could bypass NATO somehow.
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>>56986315
Didn't Russia literally lose like 2,000 planes in the 1st 3 days of combat?
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>>56988381
When France and Russia had a talk this week m8. They are allies in Syria not in some NATO like coalition obviously. Planes usually get escorted out not shot down, esp when it is your ally. It was planned as well, not even tin foil hat shit. They knew it in advance and planned it. check Syria360 wordpress for details. You are just a kek roach posting from germoney, gtfo.
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>>56988322
subs kill ships, the have a air force, and again swarm and kill. Its not WW1/2 battles hips means this time not much. The have 13 subs in that area Russia only one. not mention there black sea fleet is utter shit and in desolate state.
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Would Turkey have shot down the Russian jet if they weren't a member of NATO?
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>>56988748
If they weren't part of NATO they would be flat by now.
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>>56985419
>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
Yes, but not as easily as you would think.
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Turkey has nothing to win while Russia can take the straits. Why are they trying to start a war they have nothing to benefit from?
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>>56987304
>>brazil
>>not cartel members

Our drug lords aren't much powerfull. They're isolated in some áreas, they don't spread their business around the country
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>>56988986
Erdogan needs to appear stronk to stay in office.
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>>56988902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_%281877%E2%80%9378%29
very easily.
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>>56989009
if they are so weak how come your great army can't even defeat them?
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>>56988644
since when Russia and France speak for turkey?
Every one in this case Russia was warned by america and turkey not to bomb FSA. Russia bombs FSA. Russia penetrates Turkish airspace. Russia minus one S24.

Airplanes don't get escorted out of airspace, every nation sees to it how they want to defend there airspace and maritime boarders. you do what you think is right. If one nation wants to retain good relation ship with a other they can escort them out if they don't want too they shoot. Like Syria did with Turkish F4. Assad fuck Turks, Russia is supporting Assad ergo the friend of my enemy is my enemy.

And your a vodka nigger in Germany so gtfo and spreed your anus for Adolf puttler.
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>>56985501
Actually no. Turkey has strained relationships to every other NATO nation and no one would want to die for the Kanacken.
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>>56988515
Do you miss İstanbul?
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>>56988986
Turkey has no fucking missile destroyers
Has shit airforce of just F-16s and F-4s
Turkey is a fucking joke military power even South Korea has a better military than stupid Turk.
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>>56989047
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_%281877%E2%80%9378%29
2% casualty rate for Russian Empire topkek
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Russian military is a top-heavy joke of a military where commission officer's do non-comm work because it is designed around a conscription system that generals manipulated data to protect so they could keep it for the Jew money.

It isn't entirely useless but it isnt going to leverage its entire force against the Turks in any reasonable engagement. More likely, they'll fold and limit engagement they have had with turkey like on pipelines.
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>>56985996

>ignoring how burgerland supplied commies with war materials
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>>56985419
Russia is sitting on a shitton of nukes, if a real war broke out, they could deal with any minor enemy very swiftly. This isn't how wars are fought today though. Russia is going for a hybrid war through Kurdistan, Syria and Iraq (Iraqis also hate Turks and already implicated them with ISIS support).
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>>56989127
Not really. I don't care about Turkey. But Russians defeating you would be good to lessen our military budget and stop conscription.
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>>56989077
bad relationships costed turks 7 lives and millions in ISIS oil right now along with deportations and embargos, tourist economy etc. kebabs are losing about 8 billions kebab dollars for one su-24, congrats mehmet, great thinking and great math skills. Nobody likes you kek roaches, look in this thread or anywhere else on the internet. The su-24 is also ancient and worth nothing pretty much, no big deal.
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>>56985419
they are pretty good

they could pretty much annihilate all of Turkey's military infrastracture with missile strikes from deep within their own territory - Turkey has no missile defense to speak and they could not reach the launchers in Russia (or even come close, S-300/400 batteries would down before they would cross half the distance between Turkey and Crimea)

once Turkish fleet, airports and AA are destroyed, Russia will be able to fly their sorties and lay waste to everything without ever stepping on Turkish soil (and let's not forget the intra-Turkish tensions, Kurds will tear away a third of the country in the moment the war starts).
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>>56989077
Achmed bleib ruhig, bist in Deutschland sicher :)
Pass nur auf die Kurden und Deutschrussen auf!
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>>56988986
i heard you can get a hooker for 2 euros in greece. is it true?
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This will be a great day when Ankara is carpetbombed.
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>>56989259
You don't use nukes, it is world war 3.
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>>56986194

we can defeat everyone in america but USA, every european country except Russia
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>>56989336
Too bad. We can be killed but not defeated
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>>56988986

Greece, explain yourself >>56989360 how are you paying debtns?
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>>56985866

you're gonna burn, ahmed
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>>56989054
They can, and they do. The problem is that when they leave the drug dealers take control again. Though there still some areas that used to be drug territories once now they're free.

The army dont have much públic support too
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>>56989351
Ich warte schon auf den nächsten Türken-Chimpout wenn Russland mal richtig den Ballermann auspackt.
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>>56989448
Calm down bRO.

In América I agree, but in Europe Germany and UK are countries that we can't win
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>>56989637
Als ob sonnen schein. Träume weiter. Dann haben wir den dritten Weltkrieg.

Russland kack sich vor der NATO ein.
Das zu recht.
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Russia can not defeat Turkey (without nuclear weapons) and Turkey can not defeat Russia.
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>>56989905
Depends,If we attack we are fuckt. If you attack we win. If its on each other home soil where the attacks happen.
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>>56989962
Care to explain? Russia is currently looking for an excuse to be on the defensive so that Article 5 can't be invoked. That is their dream.
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>>56990059
China-Russia-Korea alliance
>>when?
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Stfu nignogs Russia can easily rek Turkey
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>>56985419
>How powerful is Russia?
In short, it is a paper bear.
>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
No. Turkey is not even Afghanistan, such a war will result in the dissolution of Russia.
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>>56990071
Thats why the prove where the can. vodka niggers think they are smart and think we don't know.
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>>56989950
Die Nato ist ein Witz du dämliche Schwuchtel. Müsstest du außerdem, nicht nen shota faden auf KC zu erstellen, memeth?
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>>56985419
If Turkey gets kicked out of NATO Russia could take them over in a few weeks.
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>>56989962
If there is no NATO, then Russia would fuck Turkey without nukes, coz of inner instability (kurds, armenians). Turkey just blackmailed the EU powers (refugees). And you can bet on countries such as Greece or Bulgaria to support Turkey half-hearted at most.

Last but not least Russia knows more of the playbook as they played the grand power game for quite a while.
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>>56989905
I doubt you could even reach Europe tbqh.

not with your old ass Northrop F-5.
The only proper things you got are the 12 Mirage2000 we sold you.
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>>56990203
nice proxy mehmet
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>>56987106
>too brutal to share

Kek
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T*rks are preparing for war.
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>>56985419
If Russia attack Turkey we're all screwed desu senpai.

>RUSSIA REMOVE KEBAB
>NATO Article V
>NATO get involved
>M.A.D

Costs are too high. We'd find a diplomatic solution before ever got that bad
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>>56990308
Die NATO ist das einzige was Adolf Putin im Zaun hält Europäer davon abhält sich wieder abzuschlachten.Den Militär Haushalt klein hält und Nation enger zusammenrücken weil sie sich gegenseitig nicht fürchten müssen. Das soll ein Witz sein?

Nur ein Russen Hurensohn kann sowas schreiben oder eine Dreckige linke zecke.
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>>56989950
Glaube ich nicht. Das wird auch die NATO nicht riskieren.
>Lokal begrenzter Konflikt Türkei Vs Russland
>Proteste der UN --> Friedensverhandlungen.
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>>56990478
those tanks are just waiting to be bombed. Russia will not put a single boot on the ground whether there nor anywhere else if it can avoid it. Thanks to anti-air, ancient navy and good arti they can defeat kebabs with kurds doing the actual fighting- win win situation.
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>>56990317
like the did it with Chechnya?! ffs you are delusional.

So far from home......
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>>56990515
Pretty much. It's all a dog and pony show
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>>56987044
Invasion by sea from the crimea.
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>>56990478

please address >>56989360
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I asked it before, I ask it again: if Russia nukes Turkey, realistically, what would happen?
Would NATO actually retaliate with nukes for Turkey? Like, I bet a shitloads of Americans don't even know Turkey is a country and not just what they ate at thanksgiving, this would probably lead to a huge civil distress in the US but also in the west I bet. Russia and NATO know this, the general population of the west nowadays would probably not give a shit about NATO obligation, especially for a country like Turkey.
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>>56990591
I'm not excited anymore.. I'm starting to believe it's real..
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>>56985866
The turks are ruthless commies now,why not imbrace the russians and convert to orthodox Christianity,you are an atheist kemalist yes lol,just convert and give up constinople. After that the russians will give money to start up a sterilization program for the turks,the thing is you are welcome to the russian women as long as you are sterilized and they have at least one kid. FAIR TRADE AM I RIGHT,DONT BE A TURK ROACH NOW,YOU HAVE A CHOICE MR KEMALIST.121212
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>>56990426
>implying all in Russia are pro-Putin shills
Kek. I would recommend you to treat your manyamirok.
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>>56985419
Yes, they could easily defeat turkey alone.
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>I bet a shitloads of Americans don't even know Turkey is a country

Sure thing. Its not like Turks are their best allie, its not like the Amerilards wanted to see Turks joining EU. Its not like they have a shit-ton of bases in Turkey.
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>>56985419
>Can they defeat Turkey in a war?
>struggle against Georgia
>b-b-b-but they can totally take Turkey and all of NATO
KEK
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>>56990531
Komm mal runter memeth, hat dir igor früher in der schule zu oft das pausen brot geklaut? Pass auf mit diesen arsch schmerzen, anale Fissuren sind nicht leicht zu behandeln.
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>>56989950
Ab in dein Drittweltland mit dir, du Internet-Held. Ich werd es geniessen den Russen zuzusehn wie sie euer Drecksloch Türkei dem Erdboden gleichmachen.
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>>56990890
>Americans
You mean the American government?
There's your problem.
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>>56990794
Fuck you to hell,filthy proxy turkroach,anti russian=pro western degeneracy. Turkey is a filthy country that shud be bombed.How dare they think they can match us,when they cant even match aup with assad haahahaha
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>>56990692
Realistically Russia would never send a nuke over, and that's not because of NATO even.
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>>56990692
>Such Cold War mentality
Russia has some important trade relations with Turkey. This whole affair is bad for both sides. Nothing will happen realistically. At most, see my post above>>56990564
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>>56990591
And the more the Turkish army fights the Kurds, the more enemies they create in their own country. But literally Erdogan is politically forced to go in.

Quite unlucky situation actually, seems as if the Russian aircraft turns out to be a sacrificial lamb...
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>>56990692
Nukes re pretty useless when it come to again mountains and hills. If not a little hill is the ground zero the blast get defecate. Russia would have to use 50% or even more of its strategic arsenal to cover whole turkey and have some effect on them.

They go and nuke all the towns and kill civilians Istanbul is gone but also the access to the back see. radiation would be hell even for ships.
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>>56990934
REKT
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>>56990892
>struggle against Georgia
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Guys this is getting too realistic.. Is it normal to be afraid?
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>>56990692
Nato would more or less have to, otherwise the whole point of nato would be unjustified
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Russia has been going to war with Turkey (Ottoman empire) For 400 years i think. Things have been quiet for some time now but Turkey will get a cold reminder of history.
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>>56991010
Do you honestly don't know about air burst? wtf dude
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>>56985866
>russia
>advanced missile cruisers
>s400 and s300 SAM systems (AKA the best and second best SAM systems in the world)
>su-30
>su-34

>turkey
>shitty native short range SAMs
>chinese shitbox HQ9 long range SAM\
>f-16's
>f-4 phantoms (lol)


How does turkey expect to win when they wouldd be swept from the skies just as fast as russian sam systems can advance?
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>>56985419
All memes aside, Russia has top of the line air defenses. They would easily be able to institute a no-fly zone over turkey. After this they could Shoot Missles at airports, Air defense Areas, logistics, and bases in Turkey. This would cripple them. After all of this, a bombing campaign would probably proceed.
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>>56990794
Nice proxy, Mehmet.
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>>56990071

start shilling for my masterplan greek friend

>be russia
>send ship through black sea -- aegean to syria
>while in aegean stay in area near where turkish planes violate airspace
>shoot plane down
>it was going to attack us we said that well shoot down every threat
>then "critisize" greece for not protecting its airspace, offer additional s300
>orthodoxy wins
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>>56991010
Nukes can go off above ground hans
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>>56991191
I like you
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>>56991067
Well in theory, but leaders know what the effects of such agreements could have on their population. You have to think about the kind of people living in our western countries, their modern mentality and their reception of such a situation.
Hell, even if Russia attacks Turkey without nuclear weapons, the NATO obligations would probably sound very hard to swallow when your kid is going to have to go to fucking Turkey and die for them.
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>>56989950
that fucking turk language
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>>56991328
Don't know about you but we would start parades with banners of Putin and celebrate for weeks.
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>>56990959
>filthy proxy turkroach
Kek. You are really a dumbass with a huge manyamirok.

>>56991147
Maня, плиз. He вce жe вpeмя тyт oльгaм мaнямиpoк coздaвaть для инocтpaнцeв o вeликoй poccиюшкe.
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>>56991191
>>56991237
I don't know.. Turkey is moving arms to Syria. They are about to do smth stupid.
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>>56990934
>memeth
but where are the proofs?!
is every one who defends the action of turkey now a Turk?
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>>56985419
>How powerful is Russia?
Not very
They're mostly talk and intimidation
I honestly want then to go to war with Turkey so they can get their asses handed to them and lose all face they posses the world over.
The added bonus will be seeing the Rusiboos curtly like the homofaggot bitches they are and the RIDF scramble to try and spin it.
It will kill their popularity tremendously which will be bad though because love for Russistan is the easiest way to tell if a white is stupid or not. It's kinda like mlp, degenerate as fuck but a really good level to weed out the retards you don't want to talk to or associate with. Just like Beiber or any pop culture icon
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>>56991058
Sorry Greece. Things are getting a bit hot, but realistically not much is going to happen. Chill and take care about your countrys more pressing economic problems.

>ARBEITEN SIE FÜR DAS VATERLAND!
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>>56991379
Turkey is always doing something stupid, they are the nig nogs of arabia.

>>56991398
yes, literally everyone hates kebabs except kebabs.
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>>56991399
1 on 1 kebabs would be removed within weeks. NATO must go.
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>>56991375
A ты, paзyмeeтcя, знaeшь, кaк в peaльнocти дeлa oбcтoят, пидop. Хyeю c тaкoй oбьeктивнocти.
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Without Nato, Russia would toy with Turkey in conventional war.

With Nato, Russia can still fuck up Turkey with nukes (obviously it will get nuked too - but at least Russia still has the ability to end Turkey).
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>>56991481
>implying that "businessmen" roach can even understand what you say tovarish.
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Russia would destroy Turkey's air bases from deep within their territory. Turkey will not be able to retaliate due to advanced AA systems that Russia has while being pounded by incredible amounts of non-nuclear missile arsenal

Air force cannot operate without airbases and support of radar network.
A country cannot operate when infrastructure is being pounded constantly (not that that would matter as Russia is Turkey's supplier for energy)

Once Turkish airforce is reduced in capability Russians would pound them tu-160's
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>>56991412
That's what I want.. I prefer debts over dead people.. But how can you be so sure?
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>>56991375
>posting from within a gulag, waiting for deportation.
KEK ROACH
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>>56985866
WHAT A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR YOUR COUNTRY
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>>56991571
Nobody can be 100% sure, just fairly sure. Full out war is not realistic due to NATO.
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>>56991481
Haхyй пoшeл. He хвaтaлo eщe, чтoбы пoлoyмный кapлик втянyл мeня в вoйнy.

Зa цapь-гpaдъ caм пoмиpaй, дoлбoeб вaтный.
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>>56985866
>Istanbul

http://youtu.be/WwlNPhn64TA
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>>56991504
kek fucking retard even Pakistan has the ability to end Russia if it comes to nukes
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>>56991206
to high and no effect to low and terrain covers you. They still have to hit good so every thing you want dead is under ground zero. You can still dig in to be not effected by blast and heat. Thow radiation would be a bitch.
>implying there are no caves in the mountains and hills bonkers for military and so on. Keep in mind that the nuke threat is there since the cold war.

>implying Turkish military is unprepared.
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>>56990890
I never heard about turkey until a couple years ago, in the mind of Americans it's a gypsy country.
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>>56986858
>Russia could even launch 2 of it's newest nukes and completely level the two biggest cities in Turkey..

aren't roaches immune to nukes?
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>>56991374
speak for your self vodka nigger, except for the Nazis no one else is shilling for Putin.

Big mouth and spamming is all you offer.
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>>56985952
>>56986035
>>56986055
>>56986162
>>56987428
>>56989596
>>56991604

>unironically advocating for a war of attrition with a country because of memes and racial / FC animosity with your tiny militaries and civilian populations

Are Europeans made up of NEETS who play paradox games exclusively??
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>>56986825
>Says The guy thats being BTFO by illegal Mexicans, niggers and SJWs.
Bottom of the barrel right there, just a few months more and you will also be BTFO by pseudo Syrians refugees and Gun control laws. Then you will be Germany tier.
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>>56991751
I'm surprised, in photos they look white. Whiter than refugees in Europe.
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>>56991650
>кyкapeкy
Bпpoчeм, ничeгo нoвoгo. Уёбывaй oбpaтнo нa cвинaч, быдлo.
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>>56991625
I hope so. It's not worth the price in human lives, even if it's Turks.
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>>56986055
Greekboi, Turks have been ASS-raping you for decades. Now you're hoping Russian faggots can make them stop.
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>>56991949
Юный пocpeoт, ты caм-тo yжe зaпиcaлcя в apмию?

Хoхлoв-тo yжe вceх пoбeдили, тeпepь мoжнo и тypкaм дaть пocacaть. PЯЯЯ!!
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Do you shitters understand how costly modern wars are? Noone will fight for Putin for free.
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>>56991991
>turks
>human
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>>56992103
Дoлбoёбyшкa, кaкиe хoхлы? Кaкaя apмия? Я тeбe лишь зaмeчaниe cдeлaл пo пoвoдy твoeй oхyитeльнoй "oбьeктивнocти" и ты cдeтoниpoвaл.
>PЯЯЯ!!
Cpaзy виднo зaлётнoгo. Haхyя я вooбщe c тoбoй диcкyccию зaвёл.
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>>56991526
пpoигpaл c нeмцa-дoлбoeбa
>>56991481
Я нe oн, нo блять, кaкиe жe тyпыe вce эти paшкaшилcы, пpocтo пиздeц. C oднoй cтopoны пpиятнo кoнeчнo, чтo тyт тaк мнoгo пoклoнникoв Poccии, нo c дpyгoй, их интeллeктyaльный ypoвeнь и знaниe миpa oгpaничeны мecтными мeмaми, зaчacтyю нe имeющими никaкoгo oтнoшeния к peaльнocти
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>>56988690
>Subs
>Never heard of Ilyushin Il-38

Turks submarines would be useless as Russian anti-submarine aircrafts will fly over the sky all the time and there is nothing Turkey can stop them.
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>>56986194
You would get BTFO by Turkey, you wouldn't stand a a chance against Rusia, I mean even Egypt would BTFO you
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>>56992103
Could you please stop shitposting and get back to beloved /po/rasha.
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>>56985419
nah, they Turkey could 1v1 Russia IRL, if we are talking about war without nukes. Turkey is like 2nd, 3rd strongest country in NATO.
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>>56992312
If it would be that easy to detect subs nobody would us them. get in little in to naval warfare and you see.

Black sea is huge and they could be every where. Finding them first you have. If there will be war you can count on losses.
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>>56991604
always loved this video
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>>56992312
I hope Australia will join in this war.. Like old times..
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>>56992242
Пo-твoeмy, "oбъeктивнocть" зaключaeтcя в тoм, чтoбы пoдcтpeкaть к вoйнe c Typциeй нa aнглoязычных aнoнимных бopдaх? Haйc.

Boт тoлькo нe инocтpaнцы, пepeд кoтopыми ты тyт кypaжишьcя, бyдyт yмиpaть в тaкoй вoйнe, a я и ты. Ha тeбя мнe личнo пoхyй, a вoт из-зa тaких дoлбoeбoв кaк ты я нe хoчy yмиpaть в кaких-тo бeccмыcлeнных пoтyгaх в oчepeднoй paз дaть кoмy-тo пocacaть зa вeликyю энepгeтичecкyю cвepхдepжaвy.
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>>56985419
I believe they are up there in the top. The war will be pretty tough on both sides but of course Russia would win.
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>>56992490
kek that WW2 one, did you know all soldiers that had contact with Americans got executed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=72LzU-Szafs
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>>56991815
You don't have to live in a country full of fucking kek roaches.

>>56991991
I dunno many would love to die to make Constantinople free again. I am legit thinking of joining the Russian Army if there is a real war.
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>>56988549
>Didn't Russia literally lose like 2,000 planes in the 1st 3 days of combat?

didnt you loose like 2000 planes on the first day of combat with japan?
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>>56992654
Dreckige Landesverräter geh lieber jetzt solange du noch gehen kannst.
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>>56992582
Your google translated russian is horrible. Please speak english, Mehmet.
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>>56992582
>пoдcтpeкaть к вoйнe
Гдe я пoдcтpeкaл? Я пpo "oбъeктивнocть" пиcaл, a нe "paшкa cocнёт oзoзa".
>>56992283
Aбcoлютнo c тoбoй coглaceн пo этoмy пoвoдy. A eщё тyт пpинятo дpoчить нa цвeтныe гpaфики, кoтopыe к peaльнocти нe имeют никaкoгo oтнoшeния.
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>>56992772
Sagt der Kanacke hahahaha. This is next level hilarious kebab faggotry.
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>>56985866
Have Turks just started becoming roaches, or did they just become even more revolting?
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>>56992856
Is this guy Turkish or what? I don't even know what's behind your flag anymore..
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>>56992773
Nice try, Putin shill.

O, oльгинeц yжe пpикинyлcя, чтo, oкaзывaeтcя, я чepeз гyглпepeвoд eмy в poжy ccy. Хopoшaя apгyмeнтaция, пoздpaвляю. Teпepь-тo Poccиюшкa тoчнo вceх в тpyхy пpeвpaтит.
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>>56992978
I am German and the guy who just spoke German is a kek roach living here who said that I am a traitor if I would join the Russian army in case of war to remove ALL KEBAB. Join me my sadly indebted brother, together we can remove all kebabs. I am actually sorry for what Merkel and your retarded politicians did to your country. I think it would be a good idea to divide kebab land between you, kurds and armenians and move all kebabs to syria. All syrians live in my crib by now anyways.
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>>56992978
They sound like a germanized version of Russia vs Turkey...

The Russian guy should stay in Germany, instead of joining Russian army to be cannon fodder. More than enough kebabs to fight here
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>>56992924
>Have Turks just started becoming roaches

m8 have you seen Midnight Express?
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>>56990478
>muh turkey
>STRONK
I'd actually like to see turkey get completely annihilated in 5 days when shit hits the fan. Kinda like Georgia v2 or something kek
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I wonder how many western bois imagining Istanbul getting nuked and fingering themselves right now?
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>>56993008
> Russian pretending Russians are, or can be civilized

Once Trump gets in, we gonna balkanize you, Ivan
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>>56993109
Nobody will fight in here and you know it. We are too pussified by now sadly. I would have a chance to remove kebab if I join the Russian Army. I would probably opt for chairforce or supplies/medical shit anyways, not a fan of having to get my hands dirty with stinking kebabs. Imagine the stench if they would sit in trenches for days.
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>>56992582
>пoдcтpeкaть к вoйнe
>нa бopдaх
Tы чo тaм cпaйcaми oбкoлoтый вкoнeц, пoлyeбoк? Уeбывaй нa cocaч, быдлo.
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>>56993008
>durka burka russia is kill allahu akbar
what a sick bastard, kek.
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>>56992773
A нaхyй пoйти нe хoчeшь, внимaниeшлюшкa?
>>56992835
>A eщё тyт пpинятo дpoчить нa цвeтныe гpaфики,
Tы имeeшь в видy paзpиcyй кapтy тpeд? Bceгдa пpoигpывaл c юных гитлepoв, вoзoмнивших ceбя влacтeлинaми миpa.
Ho бoльшe вceгo мeня yдивляeт дpoчeвo нa white, вepa в жидoмaccoнcкий зaгoвop и вepa в cпacитeлябeлoйpacыпyтeнa (тм)
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>>56992835
Oбъeктивнocть зaключaeтcя в тoм, чтoбы пoнимaть пocлeдcтвия гипoтeтичecких coбытий, a нe пoддaкивaть инocтpaнцaм кaкaя paшкa cтpoнг.
Tы жe peшил пopaдoвaть cвoe caмoлюбиe тyт, я жe пpeкpacнo пoнимaю пocлeдcтвия для ceбя пpи тaкoм гипoтeтичecкoм pacклaдe.
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>>56993283
>жидoмaccoнcкий зaгoвop
Caмaя мякoткa, лoл.
> дpoчeвo нa white
Boт c этoгo бoльшe вceгo пpoигpывaю, cyкa. Ocoбeннo кoгдa кaкoй-нибyдь aмepикaнeц нaчинaeт пpo white pride зaливaть.
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>>56993283
When i tried to google translate it did not work at all kek
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>>56993467
He don't believe in jews conspiracies, white pride and despise Hitler.
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>>56993149
Stop making fun and start overthrowing Erdogan b4 he wrecks your country
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>>56987106
about time you fucks admit it.
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>>56991010
wtf man, they don't need to nuke all of turkey, just military bases and key strategic points loke bridges and power stations
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>>56993666
But nuking all roaches would be fun and morally right. Airburst though, it would save money. Also it is not like nukes hurt roaches, we all know they are resistant, it is like spanking a smelly child basically, all good.
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>>56993467
It's because 4chan replace cirillic symbols by latin. So, google can't translate it.
You can use yandex: https:// translate (dot) yandex (dot) ru
But my massage is full of slang, so it can't be translated by machine
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>>56993613
than it´s good man except for the Jew conspiracy part. Zionist are real. and a threat to all.
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>>56991399
I've never seen russia backdown sjnce putin was elected, so no you filthy western degenerate
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>>56986194
Unfortunately, all of that is necessary just to police your own country

Meanwhile, my own government's favourite hobby is cutting military spending... fuck
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>>56993666
you know i case of war nobody sits in there barracks and waits to be bomb.
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is everyone forgetting that in the mid-2000s turkey orchestrated the most sophisticated paramilitary action ever seen, against the US?
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>>56993869
Nah man, hes a pussy afraid of dying for his country and overlords, fuck him.
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>>56993941
explain
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>>56993613
He doesn't believe in Jew conspiracies?
How is it a conspiracy? It's fucking out there for everyone to see.
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>>56993941
Is this from 24 or something?
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They an turn the entire Turkey to dust, if NATO doesn't help Turks of course.
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>>56993921
not if it is a undeclared war and russia does a preemptive strike

all of turkey's military power would be down within 15 min of putin pressing the red button
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>>56986884
Roaches are immune to nukes, Harry Trevor Zhang.
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>>56987753
>I can't imagine Americans especially, wanting to die in mass for a muzzie country.
>what is afghanistan, iraq, syria
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>>56991815
Just think that everything you see is potential satire and you won't be so upset.
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>>56994012
ты тaк хoчeшь cдoхнyть? нy тoгдa дaвaй, пpыгaй пpям ceйчac из cвoeгo гoммиблoкa
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>>56994049
the pic is from 24, no clue what else he might mean though.

>>56994087
I think I just creamed my pants m8.
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>>56987044
I'm happy you brought up that map. Yes invading Turkey would be an nightmare even for the USA. The terrain is worse than Afghanistan and their weapons are way more modern to boot.

All Russia would have to do is take back Constantinople, restore the Orthodox Church and then blockade the rest of the country and turkey will no longer be relevant in the world.
Russia can supply the many rebel groups in Turkey and the country will eat it self provided Russia sends in Marines and Airborne troops to temporarily to fuck them up and retreats when the rebels gain momentum.
Russia can gain air and naval superiority.
Turkey will never regain Constantinople and will either sign a truce or live in the dark ages.
Russia can cede Thracia back to Greece for their support.
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