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President Obama is PISSEDIt's over. Your guns are history.re: Colorado shooting


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President Obama is PISSED

It's over. Your guns are history.

re: Colorado shooting
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how many people got shot in Chicago this week
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Nigger won't do shit
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So will you be the one to try and take them from me? Or will you try and use the state to enforce you're will on me?
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>>56982581
Obama needs to take your guns so he can arm violent Muslims in Syria
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Q: if Obama cares so much about people being killed by guns, then why does Obama send guns to mexican cartels and to ISIS?

A: He's a lying powerhungry authoritarian jew sociopath, like all the other reptiles in Washington who hate America's freedoms
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>>56982581

All hell would break loose if he tried it.

No, seriously, it'd be utter bedlam. I think even California's governor would go 'fuck that', much less the 40+ states that aren't liberal+++.

It should be the exact opposite: open carry, everyone not only -can- own a gun, they're expected to, and we should all be thoroughly trained in their use and maintenance. It should be the same level as learning how to drive a car.
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>>56982581
>rnough is enough!
>I had it with these motherfucking guns in this motherfucking country!
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>>56982799
This
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>>56982663
I believe I counted 4 killed and 8 wounded since Thursday
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>>56982799
Or he is a gullible retard with an IQ of 102
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>IT'S TWO DAYS AFTER THANKSGIVING I MEAN COME ON!!!
>THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE
>THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT
>This is not normal. Not. Normal.

I can't stand the way this bluegum speaks/interns write.
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Christmas time is the best time to push things through Congress because everyone will be on vacation.

Why do you think Sandy Hook and the creation of the Fed was during Christmas time?
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>>56982581
now they care about cops? lmao
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>>56983252
IQ of 71 actually, factually.
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>>56982581
Nothing is going to happen, just like every other time

Where was he calling for gun control over the Fort Hood shootings, Navy Yard shooting, and Chattanooga shootings?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Fort_Hood_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chattanooga_shootings

They all had more deaths and were carried out on military bases

They were called workplace violence as well

Fun fact, they were all non-white perpetrators
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>>56982581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTO-xVLG5HE

0:53 to 0:59
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>>56983168
>Literally last thursday

Huehue
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>>56982581
#notAllGunOwners
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>>56982792
>violent Muslims

Ahem. you mean violent *MODERATE* Muslim
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>>56983556
What?
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>>56982581
Fuck this king nigger. Colorado had UBCS and the shooter just passed a check to get his guns. Now he wants more laws. Hope this nigger dies soon.
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>>56982581
"Wow, just wow"
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>>56983538
Wasn't there one in New Orleans as well? Obama just cherry pick issues to push his agendas
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>>56984012
Those were niggers so he ignores that
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>>56982581
>chimp throws shit at wall, news at 10
>gimme da guns goyim
Lol. Not with Trump energizing everyone to be hyper vigilant of their politicians.
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>>56982581
How about Obongo starts by disarming the guards protecting him and his family?
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>niggers kill each other daily
>niggers kill other people daily
>mostly with illegally obtained weapons
>Obama's sons so he can't/won't say anything
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>>56983538
calling for gun control makes the price of guns go up, altering economic data coming out. also, he may have shares in certain companies, so he benefits monetarily from gun ban talk.
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>>56982581
Whenever shit happens, the first thing liberals think of is banning.

Well, by that same logic why not ban:
- abortions, because they trigger crazy people
- crazy people
- christianity, because it says that abortions are bad

Should work out about as well as banning guns, amirite?
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>>56983751

old meem
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>>56982581
>he
fucking shitlords
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>>56982581
If only we could get rid of guns, then no one would ever have to mourn loved ones again.
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>>56982581
its like hes trying extra hard to ensure America never elects a democrat again
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>>56982581
Mr. Glock CEO smoking a cigar with a 100 bill right now sales are going to be through the roof. Black sunday glock buy off all day in america tomorrow. stray strapped and loaded senpai.
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>>56982581
Molon Labe motherfucker
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>bringing up gun control, which has always cost Democrats seats in Congress, in a huge watershed election year
Obama is doing us such a huge favor it's amazing

>>56984360
Isn't it great?
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>>56982581

HA Gun sales have increased by nearly 200% this timelast year.

They aint going anywhere buttercup by rule of majority
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oh im so scared my ak is shaking in its rifle bag
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>>56984439
>>56984360
You have to remember the people who vote for democrats ALSO want to ban funs
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Come and get it
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>>56982581
SHALL
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>>56982581
when does obama get tough on gang violence?
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DISARM THE GHETTOS FIRST FUCK YOU MR. PRESIDENT

You don't get to decide for us.
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>>56984501
Can't be too tough on Obama's sons they're just trying to turn their lives around and go to church on Sunday
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>>56984499

BREEDING
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>>56983259
I MEAN ITS 2015
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>>56982581
THE FIRST FUCKING TIME THIS NIGGER HAS SAID ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT POLICE IS WHEN A WHITE MAN KILLS HIM

REEEEEEEEE
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>>56982581
I'm not surprised. It just fits that narrative.

I'll give you guys an example. It was Thursday morning, like 2AM Thanksgiving early morning.

The bars were closing down in a popular downtown area, a lot of people flooding on the streets like normal.

You know what happened?

Alleged black males were waiting at one of the local bars, a predominantly black bar less than a block down the road. And as soon as people started flooding out of the bars they shot.
They killed one, and wounded another firing some 15 shots and sped off.

Of course the victims were black and the suspects are alleged to be black. But I didn't hear any politicians talking about how this senseless shooting needs to be stopped despite this 23 year old getting killed on Thanksgiving morning.

http://wtkr.com/2015/11/26/man-shot-to-death-thanksgiving-morning/
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>I don't want to ban guns when the suspect is a nigger

I don't even get mad at these people anymore. I'm already seeing nigs go "OH SO THEY ARREST THE WHITE BOI BUT KILL BLAX???? SMDH"

Besides, his score was only 3 - he didn't do that well. Plus he's a "registered female". It's like one of those dark Onion articles.
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>>56984162
Bring up those, Rodger, Cho, and John Samir Zawahri next time people say whites are mass shooters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Santa_Monica_shooting
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>>56984470
Not really. Crazy sjws are a small portion of dem voters. Most are just normal people who want free shit.
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>>56982581
> obama speach after white guy shoots a planned parenthood

> says nothing when a nigger shoots up a playground

Hypocritical nigger
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>>56984293
Like 13 year old girl
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>>56982581

Fearmongering faggotry that implies the president has any power to do so is cancer which empowers the fanatics in our country.

You are what is wrong with America.
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>>56984920
the total lack of coverage on the new orleans shooting, when a black man shot 16 people, explains everything. it's so blatant.

a lot of people genuinely believe whites are responsible for all shootings because the media never covers nigger violence.
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>>56985254
There was huge coverage, big "Breaking News" headlines on every website when it first happened. As soon as it was confirmed the shooter was black the entire story completely vanished.

Truly sickening.
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>>56985365
Just like the niggers that killed the pregnant wife of that one pastor. As soon as the killer was found to be a nigger, whoosh, the story is gone.
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>>56985443
they fought long and hard to ensure that the races of the killers never came out in the first place. can't disrupt the narrative of the dindu nuffins.
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>>56984604
UP
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>>56982581

>American
>literally couldn't pass a sixth-grade civics class
>doesn't understand how our government works

Kill yourself, failure.
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>>56985506
Amen brother
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>>56983259
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>>56982702
>mfw dumb hicks think they can put up a fight against the full might of America. Your .22 won't stop then, it will only make them kill you.
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Obama's powerless. We're just riding out the remainder of his disaster of a presidency. Congress won't let him do anything.
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>>56985758
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>>56982964
I don't want a gun.
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>>56982581

>> 500,000,000 guns
>> history

Good luck, kek.
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>>56982964
No, Brown would FUCKING LOVE the idea. But there are enough of us here that would rather vehemently oppose it.
And some of us are cops
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>>56983751
Last Thursday meme has been said over 9000 times on the chin
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>>56985758

>> mfw dumb liberals think that the military will disarm the people... which include themselves and their families.

Yeah, why would we disarm people and revoke their right to bear arms when we're just regular civilians once we're discharged?
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>>56982581
>But I need guns to protect my family

How's that working out for you?
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What did he say about the dindu that shot 17 people? I must have missed that part.
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>>56985758
>the military would actually enforce Obama trying to take guns
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>tfw you will never be an American defending his right to arms from a tyrannical government

This is literally my dream but I've never even seen a gun up close
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>>56982581
What a fucking tool.
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>>56985786
saying he intends to focus on gun control his last year essentially means he plans on doing nothing.

not to mention if liberals seriously wanted to target most gun crime they'd be going after handgun sales, not assault weapons.
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I really doubt the President wrote that.

I doubt he's written anything in the last 8 years.
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>>56985758

>I don't know how guerilla warfare works and have never bothered to study history

Hi, dolt.
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>>56986052
absolutely nothing. blacks can't murder people, murdering is an act of killing someone + institutional power.
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>>56986046
very well canac uck
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>doesnt call out the new orleans shooting where a nigger shot 16 people

fuck you kenyan
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>>56986083
What kind of Canadian has never seen a gun? Toronto/Vancouver detected.
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>>56983168
Any site I can get the victims names?
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>>56986231
Tyrone, J'Darious, Day-qua'nn, Shniyaa-qar, Jamal, Nigga Tu-dary.

I mean probably anyway. All the same garbage.
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he'll go fucking apeshit over a white guy doing this or if a cop shoots an "unarmed" dindu every time but doesn't say shit when the dindus are killing each other
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>>56982581
>Using a public tragedy involving deaths to help push forward your agenda
Sickening, can't believe I thought he was a good president at one point.
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>>56982581
>so-called motive
It's called a motive. You don't have to like it.
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>>56983168

Damn. Ya think Chiraq would be running outta niggers by now.

But I guess this is what happens, when they can easily get into the country
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>>56982581
Come take them if you can
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>>56986230
Alberta actually, red neck central.
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>Niggers using a hashtag talking about how white people always shoot up places.

I find it funny that niggers have the audacity to compare race and crime.

>white guy shoots up place in Colorado.
>media does not shut up about it, and niggers use twitter to try to compare race and crime.

>nigger shoots up a place in New Orleans.
>"he dindu nuffin pure coincidence ur wacist."
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>>56983487
source pls? c:
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>>56986372
You mean like with 9/11, Paris, Pearl Harbor, etc.? It happens all the time. He's a terrible president but this is what politicians do.
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Why are americans so violent? What is fucking wrong with you? In Switzerland they have plenty of guns and no problem of shooting.
And don't use "becuz niggers" maymay as an excuse, the shooter was white.
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>>56982581

>completely ignores Chicago the city HIS FRIEND is the mayor of

never change Obongo
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Obama is doing what is necessary to help eliminate the gun violence problem we are facing. This is the second most important issue facing our country behind only institutional racism.

We have to do something.

Look, considering the current issue with mass murders being commonplace, it makes sense to approach a solution to the situation. You guys are looking from the wrong perspective.

In Israel they have tough gun control and it works to prevent these types of senseless murders. Despite being surrounded by blood thirsty arab savages, Israel remains a safe place to live.

The founding fathers intended on civilians owning muskets, not ar15 machine guns. Your right to arms exists based on the idea that arms are muskets. This is fact. Maddow covered this aspect last week. There is no denying that the founders want you armed with muskets. To say they intended you to use machine guns is highly irresponsible.

The fashion in which you ignore the wholesale slaughter of thousands of youths per year, speaks volumes to your own ignorance. Mass murders are not done with muskets, yet muskets are good for hunting and self defense.

It really is time to approach a sensible form of gun control so that we can prevent children from being slaughtered again.

As a true American, you should never forget the children of sandy hook elementary school, nor the toddlers who were murdered by Holmes. We have a duty to protect our youth from crazed modern firearm owners.

We need to move past the muh guns meme, and start caring about our families who are being killed at an alarming pace.

If you are loking for a good common sense approach, take a gander at the Bernie Sanders website, and more specifically his stance on prevention of mass murders through common sense gun control.
We the people of this country demand action be taken against the gun deaths within this nation.
This is our country, lets not end up on the wrong side of history.
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>>56983672
Moderate violent Muslims.
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>>56986341

That's because he's literally a terrorist and only wishes to weaken if not destroy societal cohesion.
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>>56984794

He was obama's son, murdered by obama's uncle.

No need to report on family matters

But if that killer be white, all of the suden he's some sick nut, and the kid is still his son
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>>56986563

literally kill yourself senpai
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>>56986563
Holy fuck I thought all the memes about paid shills on this board were joking. Could this even be anymore obvious.
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>>56986678
>what are jokes
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>>56982581
>President Obama is PISSED

We have an app for that....
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>>56986231
They might not have names yet

Though it's behind a pay wall, so you only get 5 free articles every month. I think if you search the title in Google, you can bypass the paywall. The site is shit or I don't know how to browse it, after about 15 articles in each section, it goes to a different section.

>1 killed, 2 wounded in city shootings

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/

>Teen fatally shot in Gary

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-teen-fatally-shot-in-gary-20151128-story.html#nt=outfit

I think the first one is a new shooting too, from an hour ago
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>>56986649
I'm sorry but what is a senpai?
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>>56982581

>Obama: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


What a fucking baby.
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>>56986563
kek nice one, imma go to bed and have wet dreams about the keks you gave me
godbless
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>>56986231
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides
>J-Quantae Riles
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I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but if this shit doesn't scream false flag, I don't know what does.
Don't get cu-cked americans.
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>>56982581

ooooh, we're so scared. come get me, nignog prez
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>>56986757
shitty bait
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>>56986563
>This is the second most important issue facing our country behind only institutional racism.

Pretty sure immigration and economy/jobs are first, guns and racism aren't even top 20
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>>56986563
1/10 got a response.
ya did a do.
C'mon, at least try to be original.
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>>56985758
That is precisely the mindset that made you very successful on Iraq and Vietnam. Keep going, America.
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>>56986815
you're brit meight
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>>56982581
This shit happens at planned parenthoods throughout the united states on a daily basis.
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>>56982663

16 in New Orleans LAST WEEK.

Obama's sons don't get speeches so why does every fucking white guy that shoots a few people?
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>>56986745
>>Teen fatally shot in Gary
well in Gary's defense he was being raped and shot his attacker
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>>56986885
What evidence do you have to back that up? To my knowledge, this hasn't happened in a while.
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>>56986822
Why not say it rather than make up slang like that. It's truly quite pointless.
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>>56986563

>me troll me funny
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>>56982581

I'm sick of the gun scares Nigger cant do shit. If i had an assault weapon for every time Obama threatened my rights id have a gun safe full. OH WAIT I FUCKING DO! And im not spending any more money on fucking guns i have had it Obama has fooled me to many times. I fucking swear i think Obama is actually the most pro gun president we have ever had. Before he took office i had zero guns now i have more than i can remember and all of them wold scare the shit out of a SJW.
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>>56986772
>Master G. Roberson
>Mujahadeen Muhammad
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>Colorado has become more and more liberal
>Colorado has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country
>shootings keep happening.

When will they learn?
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>>56986947
>Tiyrek Foxx of the 800 block of King Street in Gary.

King Street = Martin Luther King Drive in my book

>nothing of value lost

>>56987014
>>56986757
This is an unintelligent post that merits no response in relation to the thread and/or 4chan in general.
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Obama's selective faux outrage is getting pretty tiresome desu
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Stricter gun control would literally start a civil war
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>>56982663
>>56986886
It's not just Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, and New Orleans, but pretty much every big city

Milwaukee of all places has been in the Top 10 most dangerous cities

>More than 30 other cities have also reported increases in violence from a year ago. In New Orleans, 120 people had been killed by late August, compared with 98 during the same period a year earlier. In Baltimore, homicides had hit 215, up from 138 at the same point in 2014. In Washington, the toll was 105, compared with 73 people a year ago. And in St. Louis, 136 people had been killed this year, a 60 percent rise from the 85 murders the city had by the same time last year.

https://archive.is/DoSm9

This article is from August
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>>56986828
Wrong.
According to a MSNBC poll conducted last month gun control and racial issues where indicated as being of highest importantance to the public.
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>>56987206
>According to a MSNBC poll

MSNBC can suck the big one anon.
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>>56982581
You're retarded. Obama sends out a "strong warning" about how he wants to be tough on guns in order to appeal to his libtard base.

Then the Democratic Party uses this tragedy to send out requests for campaign contributions to the party, members of the House and Senate and Hillary/Sanders to brainwashed libtard supporters so the "the Democrats can stop the Republicans and the NRA" as well as using the "pro-choice" angles.

I guarantee the Dems and supporting groups net at least $20 million off this one shooting in contributions, and that's being conservative.

You fuckers need to understand the way politics is played. It's a game, except it's a game that plays with the lives of a population.

Wake the fuck up. It's about money and power.

The FBI does internal analyses of the US population, focus groups and cloaked polls. They know if Obama was serious, half the US population would rise up.

The Feds analyze trends, just like they do on online with their AI scripts.

Obama won't do shit, because not enough people in the US are brainwashed in this generation.

Now imagine when the upcoming SJW generation is in its 60s and 70s. The US will be fucked and they will probably take the guns because enough of the population has been normalized against the Second Amendment.
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>>56987068
>mfw Obongo leaves office and says he was actually working from within the Democrat party to weaken it and strengthen the nation
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>>56986998
Yeah, any violence at a Planned Parenthood gets extra attention regardless of the weapon used. Many abortion clinics have small, permanent pickets but those are nonviolent.
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>>56987206
The poll I saw was after Paris

This was a presidential poll
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>>56984501
You mean the source of the inflated, dishonest gun violence statistics?

Never.

This is why 'they' have pushed the equality meme to the extent 'they' have. The truth regarding racial differences is being shrouded and obfuscated in order that 'they' may use them to 'their' advantage, while most of the world are none the wiser; advocating in favor of this great deception, unwitting and at the mercy of occult knowledge.

Most of the planet are useful idiots now. The is no hope outside of the supernatural.
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>>56987206
>According to a MSNBC poll
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>>56986563
You really put a lot of thought into that bait didn't you
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>>56986998
not specifically shootings, including assaults/kidnapping/arson/bombing its pretty regular.
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Meanwhile...in his home city...
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>>56982799
>jew
>nigger
At best he is a good goy and instrumental to his jew masters.
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>>56987147
Sorry, big guy, I am new here. I don't know your lingo good enough yet.
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As soon as we lose gun rights its all down hill from there.
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>>56987419
For you.
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>>56987402
Are you talking about Honolulu or Kenya
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>>56982581
>muh feels
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>>56982581
G-d bless Obama, not only will get torpedo Hillary, but he'll push Trump into office with his bullshit.
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>>56986563
>moms for common sense gun safety reform
>"U DONT NEED FULL CAPACITY CLIPAZINES THINK OF DA BAYBEES!!"

I know your post is satire but why can't both sides sit down and have a solid debate about this? Obongo goes out of the country and talks shit about anyone who disagrees with him - like he's morally superior because MUH REFUGEES AND FEELS.

He says he'd like open discussion and ideas but shits on anyone that disagrees with him. Does he not see the impression he's giving off to not only his countrymen, but to our allies across the world? Why doesn't he have that debate Cruz challenged him to? But Onigger won't do it because he wouldn't have his teleprompter - or his batshit insane views challenged by someone who isn't completely retarded.
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>>56987402
Chicago
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Guns belong to the rich.
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>>56982581
>the president of the united states throws a tantrum

how professional
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BTW - This mass child shooter is still on the lose so find him.....

32-year-old Joseph "Moe" Allen

http://www.hngn.com/articles/154861/20151128/new-orleans-police-identify-suspect-playground-mass-shooting.htm
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>>56982581
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>>56987687
Fuck the news for making this about race. Jo "Moe" Allen was a victim of circumstance created by the police.

Racism is alive and well folks!
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>>56982581
>holidays
IT`S FUCKING CHRISTMAS YOU FILTHY MUDSLIME
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>>56987687

Obama's sons don't get speeches. Only white people who shoot cops.
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>>56986765
how long until rock control for gaza?
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>>56987739

>AHHH COMMON SENSE GUN REFORM NOW!

Do they not realize that everybody has a different definition of "common sense"?

Watching the democratic debate the other night with my girlfriend was sickening.
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>>56985786
le executive order face when
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>>56982581
That same week, 16 were shot in Louisiana. But as soon as the media discovered the shooter was black, well...

MEDIA BLACKOUT.

Does America have a gun problem? Or do we really have a nigger problem?
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>>56982581
>president obama is pissed
oh no whats he gonna do lock himself in his room with a tub of ice cream and watch Lifetime all weekend?
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>>56982792
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>>56987778
Racism is never, ever going away. Period. It is .literally a survival instinct that is fully ingrained into human nature Any attempts to 'fix' racism only add fuel to the fire by being hypocritical and divisive. Just look at black lives matter. Self-segregation is honestly the only answer at this point.
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>>56987885
Don't snackbars typically point that finger up? What does he think he's doing?
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>>56982581
>Hurr we live in a post 9/11 world! Terror is the new normal! We may have had 50 Islamic terror bombings in one day that were organised at 50 mosques but it's not all Muslims! We're taking more access to your communications, and genitals in airports, since it's unconstitutional to deport people!

>Someone shot someone! It's all those gun owners! We need to get rid of all guns and bin those knives! Your second amendment shouldn't trump muh feelz! They're all a terror threat!

Why the fuck do even Americans take this government seriously anymore?
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>>56988083

>Self-segregation is honestly the only answer at this point.

pls let this happen
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>>56985758
>full might of America
Stop right there, faggot.
>implying you libshit filth would have the backing of he "full might of America" and they would obey your anti-constitutional orders to unlawfully disarm the people.
>>56986860
>Keep going, America.
This faggot doesn't represent America. We won militarily in Vietnam and easily defeated Saddam Hussein's army. Both wars were lost by Democrat saboteurs.
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When Obama fires his security detail, disarms all secret service personnel and has them no longer has them following his wife and daughters around then he can start talking about his bullshit common sense gun laws.

It is literally his privilege talking here and he needs to check it.
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>>56988266
Damn good point
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>>56982581
>says nothing when gang bangers gun each other down on a daily basis
>only has something to say when the occasional white guy snaps
king nigger, everybody.
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>>56988396
I can honestly say that I didn't hate niggers until after Obama was elected.
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>>56987608
>Why doesn't he have any integrity, and act like an uppity asshole all the time? Doesn't he understand how this makes him look to others?
>Onigger
>nigger

You answered your own question, anon.
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>>56986563
>we as real americans
>voting for a socialist who wants to take the rights of an actual over 50% majority of american people
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>>56988266
The argument against that is he needs armed protection /because of/ guns. So we need to oust guns completely and we can live happily ever after without crime or racism :^)
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He's going full fucking SJW
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>>56986563
Mmmm delicious copy pasta. Saw this exact post in a thread yesterday. Nice work JIDF keep it up.
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>>56986563
I know you're baiting, but:

>common sense gun control

Wanting to own a gun should not mean that you forfeit your rights to privacy, you authoritarian fuck. There is so much shit that the government does in the name of "helping" that is blatantly against HIPPA or other protections, owning a gun should not and will not be added to that list.
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>>56982964
All the kids in my middle school had to take a gun safety course. If you passed it you could take rifle shooting as an elective. We had a basement range and a bunch of really nice .22 target rifles.

This was in Minnesota in the 1980s.
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>>56986497
We're a violent people who use violence to solve problems. It's in our genes.
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>>56989374
>tfw won't ever get choked by the massive thighs on the qt to the right
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>>56982581
So is he ready to make niggers illegal?
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>>56982581
>assault weapon
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>>56983069
I'll laugh at your post
my white friend
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Do they still use manual typewriters at the White House? Who the fuck (other than myself) uses "--" for an emdash?
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>>56982581

What kind of fucked up world is this? Have we truly gotten to the point where a woman can't even go into a clinic to murder her own children without someone getting killed?
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>>56988181
We already have this, except niggers are getting to dictate when we should be segregated and when we should be forced to be integrated.

>Yeah, we's can go in those restaurants.
>But we should have these safe spaces for only our people and staffed with only our own people.
>Yeah, we's get access to the same classes as the White kids
>But we's get mo money for our scholarships and we's get our own clubs here.

We're the new niggers now.
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>>56982581
>Obama announces his butthurt
>Calls for """"common sense"""" gun control
>No new gun control is enacted
>Gun sales increase
>Library's are an ally annihilated over how BTFO they are
Literally what happens every time.
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>>56982581
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>>56987419
> I am new here

You're in for a wild ride. Stay frosty newfag.
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>>56990256
he's probably one of the cops they've brought in to monitor our frog posting.
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>>56982581
>"so-called motive"

Obamas "so-called motive" to take action is far less important than the motive of the gunman

Fucking asshole undermining a sick individual
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Its should be obvious now that Obama is heavily invested in gun company stocks. Every time he opens his mouth gun and accessory sales spike, thus stock profit.
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>>56986046
I still have a family
2nd amendment - 1
Lonely Canadan - 0
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>>56990420
No. It's someone who was moved by 4chan's army articles. Cops just monitor. Occasionally shitpost.
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>>56990584
perhaps, but cops are really bad at monitoring. too many type A personalities. they all want to jump in and do something instead of just sitting around watching.
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>>56990473
So we're literally in an Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode?
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>>56990584
>Cops just monitor
So now they'll become super-racists, huh?
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>>56990673
That's OK. It's been really neat having a chance to chat with various operatives now that we have so many of them joining in on our fun these days.

And I think that's a good thing, really. Everybody needs a place like a bar or something where they can just go and be friendly and say things and not have to worry about who's listening.
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>>56990772
>>56990840
>>56990673
Mostly what happens is they realize there is no coordinated effort here and they give up and leave. 4chan isn't something you can successfully infiltrate without becoming immersed in the board culture, and then it's too late. But, if you hang out in the wee hours of the morning, you can sometimes catch them bullshitting in slow threads. It's a really fun game playing spot the spook.

Now, those are very different than paid shills infesting the boards.
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>>56986046
works quite well, hat.

sit down, adults are talking...
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>>56990840

Yeah, bars aren't like that anymore.
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>>56982581

He's not actually angry, he has no problem arming terrorists in the Middle East, this fake anger is just to push an agenda. Won't work either because shall not be infringed.
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>>56986497
I forgot Switzerland was a multicultural shithole just like the US...

>waffle tier bantz....
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>>56991184
I know, right? Some of them still are. But what a disappointment that the ones all the kids like are nothing but ear-splitting music and fancy lighting.

Doesn't bode well for the future.
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>>56991148
>spot the spook
what we should really do is counter surveillance threads where we expose and track them.

of course, if they're clever, that will just lead to them false flagging other posters as cops until we can't tell them apart any easier than the JIDF.

>>56991184
>>56991361
depends on the bar.
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>>56986757
>I'm sorry but what is a senpai?
This is how you know it's a bait, libtards love anime
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>>56990217
b-b-but, prejudice plus power!
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>>56982581
but he never makes any comments about negroes killing cops
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>>56991421
Nah. Exposing and tracking are for the bad actors. No need to harass decent people.
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>>56991241

Almost all of ISIS support has come directly from president Obmama himself...

June 14, 2013
U.S. Military Aid To Rebels In Syria To Include Automatic Weapons, Mortars, And Rocket-Propelled Grenades

WASHINGTON, June 14 (2013) (Reuters) - The United States is likely to send weaponry like rocket-propelled grenades and mortars to Syria's rebels after President Barack Obama approved arming the insurgents, sources said on Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/us-military-aid-to-syria-rebels_n_3444104.html


June 26, 2014
Obama asks for authorization to provide direct military training to Syrian rebels

The Obama administration asked Congress on Thursday to authorize $500 million in direct U.S. military training and equipment for Syrian opposition fighters, a move that could significantly escalate U.S. involvement in Syria’s civil war.
Money for the assistance, which would expand a CIA covert training program, is included in a $65.8billion request for the Pentagon’s Overseas Contingency Operations, or OCO.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-backs-us-military-training-for-syrian-rebels/2014/06/26/ead59104-fd62-11e3-932c-0a55b81f48ce_story.html
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>>56986563
Bait: The post..

Its simple really, stop acting like ghetto niggers and racism would disappear overnight..
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>>56985758
this attitude is exactly why private citizens should be armed
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>>56991512

RARE
A
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>>56991421
>what we should really do is counter surveillance threads where we expose and track them.

To what end? They're only concerned with illegal activity. Y'all don't actually engage in that much. They're not shills, they don't steer discussions. At most they'll ask questions.
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>>56991522
>spying on you
>decent people
face it, they're here to hurt you. that we're immune to that is irrelevant.
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>>56991626
perhaps the two of you should switch places?
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>>56991552
>Its simple really, stop acting like ghetto niggers and racism would disappear overnight..

But it is so hard to train then now....
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>>56991632
they're concerned with what they can construe as illegal activity.

look, take chris christie for example. you know how in every debate he's been trying to say that he's better at national security because he's "the only candidate who has actually prosecuted terrorists and put them in prison?" the "terrorist" he's talking about is that /b/tard who said he was going to bomb NFL games. chris christie himself admitted the guy had no bombs, no ability to get any bombs, and no actual intention to bomb anything. he put him in prison anyway. because saying the wrong thing is terrorism.
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Haven't these stupid Leftists figured out yet that the more they try to ban guns, the more guns Americans buy? My Ameribro friend and his whole entire family just finally got around to getting their concealed carry permits and walk around everywhere armed. Going to the range has become a very popular family outing in America lately.

I'm starting to wonder if gun companies are lobbying for gun control for this reason.
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>>56989822
I didn't even notice that there was another girl to the left until now lol.
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>>56991654
>they're here to hurt you
In a broader sense, many may be part of a larger infernal machine, and so, yes, are stooges for forces that want to hurt you and me. But based on various personal experiences I can assure you that most have better things to do than trying to hurt me. In fact, I look to these people as playing a key role in putting a stop to the bad directions this country is going in. I prefer to think of my fellow countrymen as allies, by and large, even if many are ignorant.

And do you know how vast these networks are? If you want to try to track and expose every last one of them down be my guest. It's not even a good strategy in the first place. Focus your effort where it counts. Don't just hack and slash at the hydra like a desperate madman -- that's what crazed popularized shooters do.
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>>56982581
When guns get B& you just have to wait for someone to detonate a fat bomb and kill so many people that it blows all these shootings right the fuck out of the water. Maybe when somebody does that and it takes the cops 2 weeks to find the guy people will figure out these mass shootings are a mental health problem, not a gun problem.
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>>56986483
It's not really comparable when it comes to gun violence, as Obama picks and chooses with shootings to politicize instead of being consistent on the issue.

>Whitey kills mah baby boy TrayTray? RELEASE THE HOUNDS
>TrayTray gets back a whitey? Whoa ease up nigga let's hear the facts first
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>1439242931290.webm
Looks like it only takes a minute to me!
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>>56992244

We need more of your kind!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>56991527
Apparently some "rebels" fed on a diet of religious dogma and tribal conflict can be trusted with millions of dollars worth of arms, but you can't.
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>>56992051
If they're spying on me, they're NOT doing it to benefit me in any way. That's absurd. The people spying on you are not your allies, either.

Anyway, it was that other anon saying he had fun playing "spot the spook" already. The only thing I'm saying is we should point them out to one another.
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>>56991944
Terror threats are illegal. Think about what you would do to that dumbass if he threatened your family. Like I said though, this place is chaos. There is no controlled/concerted effort. Y'all literally do what you do, for teh lulz. There's not much to do but look around and poke and prod and ultimately decide there is nothing to infiltrate, the actual amount of illegal activity here is less than a typical highschool. And even if there was, it's impossible to get a handle on it.
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>>56989374
I want to live on her legs.
Fuck, I promised myself not to fap for a month and now you post this two days before I hit my goal.
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>>56991512
HOLY!
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>>56982581
Wow, if only he got so pissed everytime we get sent an execution video.
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I've got an idea; maybe we should start locking up democrats since they're unstable, unhinged sociopaths who don't value human life, the problem is clearly democrats, pic related.
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>>56992394
it wasn't a real threat.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Jake_Brahm
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>>56982581
>GOP house
>Right before an election
i think not
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>>56985870
Do your national duty or gtfo
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>>56985758
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>>56991512
you guys are still alive?
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More people were killed during Black Friday trampling each other trying to get cheap goods.

That this is even an issue is a fucking joke.
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>>56982581
>blaming the tool rather than the inept person wielding it.

where was the outrage when that child was executed in the alleyway?
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>>56992594
Oh shit dude. I've gotten statements from all over the world and from the shittiest people. But, I kinda gotta draw a line at using ED as a source for legal info.
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>>56982799
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>>56982581
I'm sure his kike handlers gave him an extra biscuit for this.
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>>56982581
So obama only likes cops when they're dead?
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>>56991811
>>56992244
>>56992322
It's better with the sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb4z5Pgwj6o
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>>56992097
>dude goes to set up bomb
>joe walks by and sees him
>he previously had a CCW prior to the ban
>sees clearly that the bomber is setting up a bomb and knows without a doubt it is a bomb
>calls the cops
>he leaves a touching voicemail to his family saying how if anything happened, it could have been avoided if he had his gun
>tries to stop bomber, gets stabbed by bomber
>bomber finishes setting up
>bomb goes off while cops are heading there
>family shows media the voicemail
>media cries about how we need more gun rights
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>>56986563
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yeah and what if everyon had a minigun in the child murdering centre
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>>56984280
Revoking the tax exempt status of religious orgs would be a good start actually
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>>56986886
Because even Obama knows their violence is inevitable.

It's easier to tut-tut a crazed loner than it is to admit the failure of the welfare state.
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>>56982581
I'm pissed too. I live in Colorado Springs on Chestnut Blvd, a 5 minutes walk from Centennial and the site of the shooting. The pundits said that open carry laws would prevent this kind of tragedy from happening here that a lone psycho with a gun would be taken out immediately in open carry states like this, but it didn't. The fact that this psycho was able to go on a rampage for hours in this gun-happy state and city is evidence that our gun control system is fatally broken
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>>56984280
This
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>>56982581
>This is not normal. We can't let it become normal.

Yet killing babies is?
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>>56992954
Murder requires a person that is killed
Fetuses are not people. Just like seeds aren't plants and eggs aren't chickens
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>>56992391
Fair enough. I guess if they're not good enough to fly under the radar then they probably ought to be fired.

But it shouldn't be a matter of an us vs. them mentality. That wouldn't be strategic.
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>>56992739
why? ED's pretty good for archiving legal documents sometimes.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/MadThad0890#Criminal_Complaint
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I bet one million dollars that gun laws on the federal level will not become more strict as a result of this. Who wants to take me on?
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>>56992897
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>>56982581
>assault weapons
stop this meme
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>>56982799
Technically it was his boy Eric Holder who did that.
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>enough is enough
I think we've all had enough of Obongo.
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>>56993077
*they* already have an "us vs them" mentality, which is the entire reason they're here.
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>>56993193
Is Eric Holder subject to prosecution now that he's not the AG anymore?
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>>56993070
>Blacks are not people. Just like chimpanzees and gorillas aren't human.
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>>56993130
Too many memes. It's good to get a handle on the zeitgeist of chan culture, but as a source of factual information, it leaves a lot to be desired.
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>>56991961
>Haven't these stupid Leftists figured out yet that the more they try to ban guns, the more guns Americans buy?

M-maybe they're like the Empire? They're all mean and stupid, because that's what it takes to inspire the rest of the Galaxy to arm themselves against a looming threat still unseen?

Maybe liberals are playing the villain so Americans arm themselves against the nigger and the Jew?

That's why the Jew is fighting so hard to start a race war. Fracturing the armed whites so they're fighting a different enemy is their desperate attempt to not be found out...
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>>56985758

>.22

/k/ here, if you only knew the shit some of us have. But you go right on thinking we're just dumb hicks with grandpappy's two pipe scatter blaster.
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>>56993070
>fetuses are not people
a fetus is a human in a very early stage of development.
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>>56993219
You're not part of "them".
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>>56993012

If you knew it was going on so close....

What would you do?

Run down there with your gun to help.

Or hide.
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>>56986563
yeah we'll wield muskets while they wield high-tec fucking military weapons.
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>>56983942
Sauce?

The system was in place and didn't work?

Good, get rid of it and pay attention to real social issues like the disintegration of the nuclear family, and the effects of the war on drugs.
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>>56984264

Not really.

It's saturated the market so much that guns are cheaper than ever.

You can put together an AR-15 for under $300 at this point.
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One crazy American shoots up an abortion clinic.
>Ban all guns.

An entire crazy country and their neighbors support ISIS
>Bring them to the USA

Bama Logic
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>>56989374
Stop fucking spamming this same Noelle Foley picture over and over you retarded faggot.
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>>56993219
Are you dense or just in need of mental help?
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>>56993237
i think you're selling them short. they archive things no one else does, and when they flat out post scans of legal documents, you can't really consider them the source, so much as the court.
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>>56993257
No no, he's right. We only have peashooters :(

So the enforcement teams don't need body armor since all we have are these pathetic .22s guys.
>>
SHALL
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>>56993307
no, i am not. i'm not spying on anyone. they are.
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BANG BANG ANON'S SILVER BULLET
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SOCIETY IS THE PROBLEM, NOT GUNS.
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>>56992659
>no barrel
won't do anything senpai

https://youtu.be/3SlOXowwC4c?t=2m27s
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>>56993418
NOT
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>>56993382
what are you trying to say? that the cops aren't spying on us? because that's what this entire conversation is about.
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>>56993309
No one did that though. You'd think for all the people that talk big like you just did, someone would've stepped up and intervened, But no one did. Easy gun access caused this tragedy and did absolutely nothing to prevent it
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>this isn't normal

So what has changed in the last couple decades... Have gun laws become super relaxed?

What's that? The Opposite?
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>>56982581
http://www.tbo.com/news/blogs/the-right-stuff/so-much-for-innocent-til-proven-guilty-20151123/

Good, then the rest of America would join the fight to respect the US constitution.
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>>56993488
PASS
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>>56985538
DESIGNATED
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>>56993565
>britain
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>>56993377
this is the second mass shooting in Colorado Springs this month. Not at all a lone incident
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>>56993227
But blacks and other races can interbreed to produce viable offspring

Didn't you listen in high school biology class?
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>>56993522

Yes, we've relaxed gun laws significantly in the last couple of decades.

We've also doubled the number of guns in circulation.

The murder rate is half of what it was when we started and violent crime is nearing record lows.
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>>56993515
>Easy gun access caused this tragedy and did absolutely nothing to prevent it

So what did you do to help them?
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>>56993385
Maybe. Not my department.
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I'm certain no one in this thread is really for disarming America. They just subliminally enjoy making Americans salty and defensive over their guns. Sort of like how some people play devils advocate in every situation without thinking, it's their go to move.
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>>56982581
I wonder why is he acting so butthurt about 3 more deaths when shooting fellow countrymen is a national sport in the US. Did he say anything about the 9 year old executed by his father's rival gang some weeks ago?
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>>56982581
I'm pissed too, at President Obama. All of this shit happening is a reaction his failure.
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>>56993295
Human, yes
Person, no

Fun fact: in Ancient Rome you weren't considered person until 1 year of age.
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>>56993605
So can fetuses after about 13 years.
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>>56993496
No, of course they're spying on us. Most of my paycheck for over a decade has been, ultimately, to devise better ways for them to spy on us, regardless of their obvious and silly cover stories. (Maybe they should spend more money on not sucking so bad at the PR.)

I'm just saying that you're not being much more strategic about your objection to this colossal waste of resources any more than they are. There's no need for personal animosity to get in the way. In this phase of the game, we have a historically unprecedented opportunity to peacefully exchange ideas and to try to develop better alternatives for what we currently face before we are forced to chose from whatever happens to be available.
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>>56993419
Look. You're not under surveillance. This isn't massive dragnet surveillance. It's more like cops answering a noise complaint. They peek in the door then go on their way. It is possible to be overly paranoid you fuck.
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Anyone ready to laugh? This is what Obama said when Colorado passed more gun control laws after Sandy Hook:

> Colorado is showing that it's possible to enact "tougher background checks that won't infringe on the rights of responsible gun owners, but will help keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people."
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>>56993522
>So what has changed in the last couple decades

Spree shootings have been stagnant since the 50's.

The overall firearm homicide rate has actually *decreased* since the 80's.

Gun control is a completely manufactured issue. You are, no joke, more likely to be killed by a lightning strike than in a spree shooting.
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>>56985758

>America
>doing shit

The Military won't comply by his orders because they have family. same with even the Police, what the fuck can you do?
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>>56993735
Ok, tell me how many years you need to wait to make a human chimp hybrid.
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>>56987068
Actually maybe. Whenever he says something like this gun and ammo sales go through the roof. Say goodbye to .22lr for a while.
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>>56993623

Realize....

I actually was in front of my house once with my shotgun and wife inside with an AR-15 when things were a bit crazy.... But really lib anti-gun dude...

What the fuck did you do when the shit came up your fucking ass!!!
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>>56982581
Thank God no one black has been shooting anyone lately

http://www.americanpress.com/sports/prep/20151128-Chicago-Violence-Boy-Shot-Arrest

http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2015/11/28/news/connecticut/923272.txt
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>>56984341
Underrated
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>>56986046
yeah, it actually works great... hows being c u c k e d into taking in refugees?
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>>56991626
I agree with >>56991694
Come to America f a m, we will make a fair trade. Plus you can escape the mudslimes. I'll even make you pancakes.
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>>56993740
>yfw he realized he was speaking to "them" and dropped comm
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>>56994003
>Thank God no one black has been shooting anyone lately

We really need to hunt this animal down....

http://www.hngn.com/articles/154861/20151128/new-orleans-police-identify-suspect-playground-mass-shooting.htm
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>>56993849
Happens all the time in Australia
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>>56991512
Thank you for your contribution to my collection Grenada, as thanks I will memorize your countries flag and brag about it occasionally should anyone from your country post again.
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>>56986046

I still have a family and home.
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>>56993636
which is your department, exactly?
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>>56994254
What? I already said I quite enjoy speaking to "them"

I have a long record somewhere in the outreaches of recording devices of stating that I hope they're recording me so that they can all listen to what I have to say. What are you even talking about?
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>>56992897
>MUH DICK NIGGA
>MUH DICK
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>>56994376
Happenings. Y'all are fast with news. Seriously faster than anything out there that isn't internal.
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>>56993740
that there needs to be any "strategy" at all is wrong. it's pretty simple. no government spying on our own people, period. now, if you want to spy on the foreigners, have at it. if you want to spy on muslims, go right ahead. but if i'm paying you to spy on me, we're way past the point where something's wrong. we're firmly in orwellian territory.
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>>56994388
I meant the anon we were talking to. We both kinda came out at the same time and he didn't respond very fast.
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>>56993749
>This isn't massive dragnet surveillance.
oh, but it is. that's exactly what it is.
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>>56994254
>>56994541
believe it or not, most people do other things while they're browsing 4chan.
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>>56994622
It's really not. There's nothing to derive here if you're not a sociologist. It's like watching a hive of anarchic bees. You, as individuals, hold little return on investment. It would be like trying to bust El Chapo by bringing down your middle school weed dealer.
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>>56994527
Can't argue with that. The lawlessness of our government is completely out of control. As with trying to control economies, you can get away with it and even do good things in short, controlled bursts. But, as a way of life, it always ends in some very sad chapters in the history books that benefit nobody, really.

>History is not a school mistress...She is a prison matron that punishes for unlearned lessons.
-Vasily Klutchevsky, Russian Historian
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>>56992713
black perp = media silence
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>>56982964

>Everyone should Own guns

Like in Syria?
Like in the Ukraine?
Like in southern Africa?

You give anyone a gun, they are gonna shoot it. Not for protection, not for defense, but just to do it.

You have a bunch of people shooting, and eventually some one will get hit on accident

Those accidents lead to retaliation and civil war. It's the same game.

You are a coward who needs a Gun. Another pawn of fear.there are things you can't shoot, and you will learn soon enough
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>>56994821
which is why we're largely immune to their efforts. but they make the effort nevertheless.

>sociology
>science
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>>56995189
well, i don't think anyone is giving americans guns. they're selling them.

but by and large, it works out pretty well. we get to protect our liberty, and you get to continue being a bed wetting coward. see? everyone wins!
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>>56995195
I'm not disagreeing with you on the whole sociology science thing, but he never said anything about it being a science
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>>56995189

There are well under a thousand fatal gun accidents in the United States each year.

We have half a billion guns in circulation.

Seriously, seek psychiatric help.
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>>56995195
Sociology has its place. I would have been happier with an anthropologist where I've had sociologists though. But, we all have out constraints.
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>>56995353
i know, but i couldn't resist taking the swipe.

>>56995452
where is its place, exactly? to tell us our universities need more diversity, while they have exclusively liberal radicals in the sociology department?
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>>56985758
Civilian America is the wealthiest, most advanced, most highly educated, and most industrialized nation in the history of ever.

We have literal mountains of every tool, every machine, every blueprint, and every type of raw material you could name.

If there is a type of job, whether it be machining, medical, communication, that can be done in an industrial society, there are a shitload of working-class men in this country that know how to do it.


Liberal, progressive bullshit careers and other urban-centered highly specialized positions are luxuries afforded to disconnected academic brain-dead motherfuckers like yourself.

They exist only because of the explosively vibrant American working class.

The same goes for the legion of welfare leeches and other democrat voters.

The american working class is the most powerful force in history, and they are overwhelmingly opposed to government fuckery.

They are the military, the craftsmen, the engineers, and the communication technicians that keep your irrelevant job existent.

Do you think that a piece of legislation is going to stop automatic military grade weapons from being produced en masse?

Do you think a bunch of posturing politicians can contain and extinguish the weaponize-able part of the most prolific knowledge-base in history?

If durkas in afghanistan have the where-with-all to mass-manufacture the munitions and firearms it takes to fight a war of resistance against the world's most powerful military,
then the US working class could conquer the world by force if it turned it's mind to it.

It's a good thing the average American prefers to mind his own business and not steal other people's shit, nor tell them what they can and cannot do with their own lives.
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>>56995353
That doesn't stop science from trying. There are buttloads of money being spent on being able to identify and model your internal emotional state, your ideological basis, the nature of your social relationships, what kind of role you're playing in a conversation at any given moment, who the movers and shakers are, how to rearrange the whole structure of your social network in order to achieve one end or other. It goes on and on, and the whole idea is to need fewer and fewer people to achieve this. And this is just in my very small and narrow neck of the woods.

You're not at all being paranoid about what's going on. But a fear reaction is not a solution. Fear is a mind control mechanism.

And I personally think guns are not a fear reaction, but a common sense necessity in any situation. My brother just about lives innawoods with small children, and he tells me about watching bears come through the yard and a curious uptick in cayote calls in recent years, but he doesn't keep a gun at the ready and his children are afraid of knives. I don't get that one at all.
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