http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-planned-parenthood-shooting_5659bdd1e4b079b2818a79f3?utm_hp_ref=politics
The libshits are primed for forced confiscation. This new shooting at their fetus factory has emboldened them to take drastic actions against any gun owning American. The fear of a mass shooting this holiday is fueling their delusions that confiscation will lower violent crime.
>WHERE IS THE VOICE OF REASON?!
>>WHERE IS THE VOICE OF REASON?!
Certainly not in this thread
Civil war sounds like fun.
>>56979325
I think it's needed.
>>56979325
"Wild fires" only get out of hand in droughts and if little fires are constantly stamped out.
The small fires clear away the brush.
When the bullets are flying, the Social Juices will have to rethink their worldviews. It'll be for the better.
>>56979625
Where did all this leddit come from?
First of all, what is and isn't allowed in an executive order. There is a very prominent separation of powers in the constitution and all that, so there must be limits on what a prez can do via executive order.
Secondly, obama has been bitching about getting gun control passed during every publicized shooting since sandy vagina (but of course not during any of the countless instances of black on black gun violence that occur every day). Point is that if he couldn't get it done during any time in the past however many years, he can't do it now.
>>56979625
>we need to do what the kikes want so the kikes see things their error and come around to our way
Why do they think banning guns will do anything?
There are so many in circulation that passing new laws is basically meaningless.
There is literally nothing he can do.
If he could he would have done it bu now.
they really want to start a civil war don't they?
>>56979016
>The libshits are primed for forced confiscation.
LOL! This gonna be good!
Look at the raids on France. Those are a blueprint.
Anyone got some handgun and shotgun recommendations? I don't know shit about guns but would like to start target shooting and hunting. It's Christmas soon so maybe there is a good book on hunting with firearms that someone can recommend as well.
>>56980944
Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
If I have javascript off and their site looks like this, they have nothing important to tell me anyways. The only other site that consistently does that, though I haven't checked for a while, is Gawker.
I'm too tired right now for a non-nuclear or world war 3 happening thread.
>>56979325
Sign me up. CSA forever!
>>56981272
It's no longer the north vs. south. It's middle America vs. the coasts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgtLlf4uQk
>>56981034
Get yourself a PPK so you can look like James Bond.
>>56979016
listen more to the wise words of your founders and less to those of current detractors
and its an election year. Dems are fucked
>>56981034
Buy some 3" slugs and a Mossberg
I feel like even now, in our sjw dystopia, there STILL isn't that much public support for wide sweeping gun control, or at least not for confiscation. I just don't think this will work the way the democrats want.
>>56981343
So we get that cool clubhouse in the Rockies?
>>56981034
Mossberg 590A1 is s great choice.
But not sure if there is any game in the UK you can shoot with a 12 gauge and not blow to pieces.
Do you have deer over there?
Who waiting for Darth Mall here?
>>56981343
We make their food. We hold the majority of soldiers in the south. We hold the best military bases (by far). We have the biggest military tech buildup. We have the training bases for pretty much everything.
We control California's water supply.
They would not last a week. It wouldn't even be close. Middle America would win so hard.
>>56981640
Which clubhouse is that?
>>56981469
sweet, stupid ass liberals getting shot is the perfect christmas present.
>>56981577
Most people don't want a civil war, and are intelligent enough to know that attempting that would cause it.
Who could possibly be surprised by that?
Americans naturally hate their government. It has always been that way. It's a good thing
>>56979016
Trying to grab guns in the name of a bunch of dead abortionists is about the dumbest thing Obama could do. If the dead kids didn't do it what makes this asshole think a bunch of fetus eaters will mobilize the public?
>>56979325
If Obama actually did try to confiscate guns via executive order yeah that would probably be the next thing to happen.
>>56981192
what does this mean?
>>56981455
Is it any good or is it only because my flag is British?
>>56981567
>>56981687
I'm not really from the UK. I live in Norway, but there are some restrictions here too. But I am unfamiliar with what laws we have either.
I've seen people talk favourably about the Mossberg in general. The different versions is also something that makes it kinds of hard for me to pick a gun. What's special about the 590A1? And yeah, deer was something I was planning to hunt(in Norway that is).
>>56981899
It means I have to turn on javascript to see the content because they want to mine my data.
Who /militia/ here?
>>56981877
What amazes me is how badly obama wants to stamp the boot down on the fundies. At the current rate fundamentalists in the bible belt are slowly disappearing, so why the fuck does Obama want to fight them so bad? All he needs to do is just wait.
>>56981034
Glock 19, the universal gun. Used by everyone from police to bangers.
>>56982058
Ahh backtrace you for targeted marketing purposes
>>56982023
Well it's the same model used by the US military. It has some additional shit to make it milspec... Mainly a heavy barrel. Also it has dual extractors so shells eject reliably, I'm not sure if the regular 590 does as well. You would still do well with a 590 if you wanted to save some money.
Of course there are better hunting shotguns, but this one is comparably very cheap and extremely reliable. Makes s great home defense gun too.
Also check out the Remington 870. It's s great fun as well, but feed ramp annoys me. It's bound to take some of your skin if you're not paying attention while loading.
>>56979016
So basically, he's gonna confiscate every legal gun from respectable white men and leave every ape nignog with illegal guns alone, right?
>>56979016
Question wouldn't congress just be able to veto the order?
So many retards in one thing
there cannot be an executive order on gun control because it goes against the constitution (see: Washington DC gun control ruling)
Constitution overriddes federal/presidental authority, etc.
Gun control is literaly one of the only things you CAN'T do with executive orders.
>What we do know is that he killed a cop in the line of duty, along with two of the citizens that police officer was trying to protect.
He's such a piece of shit. He never gives a shit about cops at all when they die only now to score pander points.
>>56982768
>Gun control is literaly one of the only things you CAN'T do with executive orders.
Couldn't he say something like guns are banned in all federal buildings or all federal workers are not allowed to carry on the job? Isn't that the extent of his power?
>>56979016
You're an idiot, try not to shoot anyone today!
>>56982494
that sounds like something a nigger would do.
>>56982768
>because it goes against the constitution
You think they give a shit? They haven't given a shit in many years.
Goodluck, 2nd amendment.
"IF" the confiscation starts, lots of cops are gonna die. Obama will be impeached and imprisoned in a heartbeat.
>>56982768
>there cannot be an executive order on gun control
>>56982152
Yeah, that's it, marketing. That's all.
>>56979016
COLD
DEAD
HANDS
Try it. There would be trained gorilla teams in the US ready to search and destroy anyone who tries to take our guns.
>>56983202
OK. Now let's try that with well trained military personnel and not just the run of the mill street cop. Let's see how that ends. I just wonder how the National Guard would deal with it. Do they have to protect the state they are in? Or do they have to side with the federal government on things to prevent National Guard shooting on Military personnel?
Obama said nothing about an executive order banning guns in his statement. Another shitty thread with a deceptive title. The mods should really start banning faggots that do this.
>>56983320
But but muh helicopters and muh drones and muh jets would stop us.
>>56982768
they can't explicitly ban guns but an executive order can essentially ban guns
there's so many ways to approach gun control and the supreme court has already been complicit in several of them
>>56983456
>implying the military would back the president
There are smart generals who would stand down, you know.
>>56983482
>>56983288
>>56983173
>>56982963
What the white house has to do for gun control is to either pass a new consitutional amendment "modernizing" the second amendment, or do some shit that bans guns without actually banning guns.
They COULD make it harder to obtain guns, which isn't banning them, i.e. fixing the gunshow loophole which hillary already said she would do.
But can the white house outright say "If you are an American you can not own a gun"? No. That's not going away without a constiutional amendment.
>>56979016
>nigger shoots 15 people in new orleans
....
>nigger literally executes a 9 year old in Chicago
...
>muzzies kill 130 people in france
>NOT ALL MUSLIMS, DON'T GENERALIZE
>crazy white tranny kills 3 people (not a mass shooting by the FBI's definition) in colorado
>BAN GUNS, EXECUTIVE ORDER, I AM YOUR KING, FUCK YOU WHITE PEOPLE
fuck this worthless nigger
stockpiling during crises is stupid. prep ahead of time, niggers.
King nigger literally cannot do anything of any importance in this regard.
>>56983381
this. /pol/ always yells 'executive order' every time Obama or a prominent dem makes a statement on guns or gun control.
calm down faggots.
They can't do shit. Gun control is over.
>>56984111
trips confirmed
>>56983293
> If the product is free, you're the real product
>>56982768
Off topic but I can't be the only one who read the post in his voice, right?
>>56983671
>fixing the gunshow loophole which hillary already said she would do.
you mean private sales? leads to gun registry which leads to gun confiscation. not happening.
>>56983826
fellin a lil fistey there m8?
>>56982494
They did this leading up to the flood in katrina. Went door to door to registered gun owners taking their guns and leaving guns in the hands of criminals.
>>56982102
who does that guy on the far left look like to you guys?
>>56979016
Well, this should be fun
>>56984634
considering all the blatant hypocrisy
yes i am pretty mad
>>56984553
>Implying people in small towns will even care.
My first gun (BAR .22L, made in Belgium) was given to me by my neighbor in his will since he had no male children and I had mowed his yard for a few years without pay. We didn't register it or anything. My father went over to the house, picked it off the rack, and handed it to me. I remember even when I was as young as 14, grabing it and a box of cartridges whenever I felt like it and hunting squirrels and doves in the back woods. I grew up in a very small town where this was seen as rather normal.
>>56984832
The Drive man.
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
>>56979016
His last executive order to not deport 5 million illegals was shot down. Nothing is going to happen, just like every other time.
Where was he calling for gun control over the Fort Hood shootings, Navy Yard shooting, and Chattanooga shootings?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Fort_Hood_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chattanooga_shootings
They all had more deaths and were carried out on military bases
They were called workplace violence as well
Fun fact, they were all non-white perpetrators
>>56984895
>anon gets too excited
>can't figure out which gun to use in time
>anon can't hit the reset button
>>56984895
Wow Mr American, you have so many guns, can I have just one gun, please?
In this civil war will I have to start calling you guys rebs and the liberal gun snatchers yankies?
>>56985118
>tfw you can't even own one of the TOOLS at the bottom of the arrangement.
We will liberate you one day Anglo bro.
>>56979016
CNN is still spouting fewer domestic terrorist attacks that right wing or whatever attacks
Of course it's always after 9/11 and ignore the hundreds of prevented attacks
I still don't think that includes these shootings either
>>56985040
They still aren't considered terrorism
>>56985118
My friend, I would at least let you shoot em' all. Gotta few more since that pic was taken
>Bombing happens on Christmas
>Media says it was a white Christian
>Security tapes show it was a muslim
What would happen?
>>56979016
The vast majority of cops are red pilled and right-leaning. Almost all of them are propenents of legal ownership, due to the fact that 99% of the shitheads they deal with on a daily basis use black market firearms.
The full cooperation of the local police, military, and national guard would be needed for any sort of attempt at a gun grab, and that's never going to happen. The only people who think this would ever have a chance in hell are people completely ignorant to military culture.
>>56985349
Two competing narratives would form like with every other major happening.
>>56985349
/pol/ would bitch endlessly about it.
>>56985349
Workplace violence ;-)
>>56982404
Thanks. I'll look into both. I've seen them recommended before, as well as make a lot of top 10s, so I doubt I'd be disappointed with what I get. I got 6 months to decide anyway.
>>56980924
>M9 bayonet
#triggered
>>56985349
There would be no security tape
>>56982149
Nah nigga I use da muhfuggin glock 40 my nigga bix nood 9 mil nigga 40 cal straight at ya dome nigga bratata nigga chiraq savages my nigga
>>56985444
This
>>56985512
and this
>>56982149
This gun will deliver tight grouping in rapid fire just as accurate as other guns with longer barrels, though not as accurate as guns with In-Line rails
>>56980409
Not to mention that
A) confiscation would be a nightmare
B) illegal traffic would skyrocket
C) huge blow to the economy
D) printable guns would become a thing fast should a demand arise.
E) the music would pretty much still be the same for a long time - again, too many guns around.
>>56985299
Whats the definition of terrorism they're using? Just that it has to be politically motivated or something like that?
>>56984895
stay white brother
>>56983671
No criminals buy guns at gun shows. Who the fuck made that up?
>>56985379
Oh yeah, like how they were against it in Katrina?
>>56981469
These guys were fucking prophets.
>>56985854
>confiscation would be a nightmare
They think rounding up 11 million illegals would be impossible
The same people probably don't realize there 300+ million guns and 43% of Americans own a gun.
Don't know if that means 43% of 330+ Americans own guns. I'm sure majority of Americans are under 18, so possibly almost every adult or family has a gun.
>>56980924
>what is torture
The more awkward the stab more pain they'll get to endure
eh, if Sandy Hook couldn't even get a single piece of gun control legislation pass I doubt anything for a long time won't get gun control passed
unless this time around Obama orders the CIA to do something worse than Sandy Hook
>>56985236
On Halloween I wore a pseudo military outfit, I bought an American pistol holder for my right leg and could just about manage to get a hold of a toy gun (it was very difficult to even find one) it was a shitty light green space gun but when painted black it looked good enough to use as a prop. But I dared not even walk out with the toy gun in the holster in case I got stopped by police, I waited til I was indoors again.
>>56985312
I appreciate that very much. You'd make this Brit happy.
>>56984830
this
>>56984830
All those people that got their shit taken were a bunch of old people and pussies.
If anyone stood up to it and the police actually took casualties they wouldn be so quick in swinging there little shield protected dicks around.
Why is it so fucking hard for them to understand that criminals that are willing to kill people also don't care if they get guns legally? Have they ever answered this argument?
>>56985922
Pretty much
Fort Hood shooting with Nadal Hassan didn't want to label it terrorism because military doesn't have a terrorism charge. Everyone but Obama and Department of Defense called it terrorism.
The Chattanooga shooting they're still investigating it as terrorism or can't find any links, probably easier to claim that since he's dead.
Any attack on military should be terrorism
>>56983363
Hi friend,
The national guard, as well as every branch of the armed forces is meant to protect the constitution of the United States.
>>56986135
This. This.
>>56986189
We'll have you chewing tobacco, dirt biking, shooting guns, porking whiskey tango sluts, eating burgers, and riding bulls soon enough!
>>56979827
>There is a very prominent separation of powers in the constitution and all that, so there must be limits on what a prez can do via executive order.
The only enforcement is through the courts and congress. When the president, a simple majority of the supreme court, and a minority of congress sufficient to block the supermajority needed to impeach are together, they can do whatever they please and separation of powers be damned.
The president can use executive authority to direct the working government to do whatever he wants. The supreme court can "interpret" the law to mean whatever it wants. Only impeachment can stop them, and it can't proceed without a certain supermajority. Right now, the left has absolute control over the USA.
Look at their gay marriage shenanigans if you don't think this is true.
>>56984895
use the musket for your civil war the comical value of it would make it worth it
Remember bros if it does kick off remember these and use them anyway you can
>>56986658
Actually made me laugh out loud.
Very nice
>>56982149
It looks so ugly though.
To be fair there's shootings in the USA like every 5 minutes or less so then what will solve it? More unaccomplished protesting? Put more people who abuse them in jail? Seems like that's the solution do everything look at our prision rates. If you don't think there's a problem with how accessible guns are you have a problem
>inb4 spammed with ad hominems
>>56983671
>constiutional amendment
kek no. Bloodshed, stupid
>>56985535
but there's no trigger on a bayonet
>>56986122
Nah! That would just be sadistic. It's all hypothetical anyway. All my states Sheriffs refuse to follow Obama's gun control BS.
>>56986658
>I say good sirs, this here is private property
>I am now proceeding to give you a warning shot that if you do not vacate these premises that you will be considered tresspassers
*musket fire*
they start moving into position
and then he starts picking as many off as he can before they can make it in
The good thing about guns is that they're not easy to take away.
Obama's been overextending constantly.
If he pulls any major bullshit with guns the democunts are done in 2016.
>>56987280
>retarded Civil War happens because leftists didn't think "Why didn't we just protect ourselves in the beginning"
>lots of people dead
>everyone fucks off
Exactly how it'll escalate.
>>56982102
>AKs with rails
>>56985956
Siiiiiiiigh. Yes they do you fucking faggot. So tired of this delusion that the private sales you people make at gun shows aren't contributing to inner city crime. Especially when I live in a state where niggers go next door to get their weapons in this exact manner. Yet you want to talk about Obama seizing your guns and leaving only the criminals with them, well that's because you've been selling to them. Mexicans too.
>>56987118
Don't mind me guise i will just sit right here and be the best M16 family Bayonet ever.
>>56987648
>talks about Mexicans getting firearms
>ignores the Obama administration literally selling weapons to Mexicans in favor of some fantasy of Joe Smith supplying chicanos with weapons at gun shows as if that's a thing that happens
>>56987800
>Misses the point
>Can't refute what I said and face the hypocrisy
>Lies about Joe Smith not selling guns to people who he knows nothing about, people who can be and are sometimes sent by criminal gangs
You aren't for gun rights, you are for gun recklessness
>>56979325
Not really, the first one was horrendous. If there were to be another civil war it would be longer and several magnitudes worse.
>>56988188
>blather
You have nothing but "muh feels." No one cares, you're powerless, and you can't change it.
I know it hurts you, but realize that your ignorant, bullshit anecdotes don't trump constitutional and property rights.
>>56988188
Bloody freedom over safe slavery faggot
>>56986943
Not ugly
Utilitarian
Customizable plastic brick
>>56988389
>muh feels
......not even once
>you can't change it
We shall see
>bullshit anecdotes
Riiiiight. You won't believe you indirectly sell guns to nigger gangs until someone wears google glasses and records everything. Oh wait, then you will just push responsibility on someone else again.
>>56988438
Freedom to sell guns to criminals and the mentally ill. Freedom to aid and possibly be a menace to society. Nope. We will fix you soon enough with new laws. You aren't American, you are scum.
>>56982142
The House is gerrymandered so Dems can not reclaim it anytime soon.
Also, even if they win in 2016, the odds are they will lose in 2020 due the nation being tired of Den rule. And since 2020 is a census year, if they lose big in 2020, then its another ten years of the House being lost to Dems due gerrymandering.
Toss in Hillary as the frontrunner in 2016 and zero assurances she won't dismantle Obama's legacies per her corporate masters orders and Obama becomes desperate....
>>56979016
>Executive order gun control
GET READY FOR HIM TO BE IMPEACHED AND LIBERALS TO BE BEAT THE FUCK OUT.
>>56988753
Aaaaand they still didn't receive a tip.
Nothing of value was lost that day.
You muricans are immature children who cannot play nicely with your toys. This is the only solution.
>>56982102
>bullpup kel-tec
>battle ready
MWAHAHAHAHA You're going to die after the 8th shot in the mud because it jammed.
BTW - This mass child shooter is still on the lose so find him.....
32-year-old Joseph "Moe" Allen
http://www.hngn.com/articles/154861/20151128/new-orleans-police-identify-suspect-playground-mass-shooting.htm
>>56989104
>You won't believe you indirectly sell guns to nigger gangs until someone wears google glasses and records everything.
Is it possible for you to make a more ridiculous statement? You literally just said that I, personally, sell firearms to nigger gangs.
Does it hurt, being this stupid?
>They gunna take our guns.
how many times have wingnuts utter this and nothing happened, and why are you guys so afraid of sane gun control?
Did Obongo comment on all the violent black bullshit ?
>>56987143
>picking as many off as he can
>musket
So, 0?
>>56989862
SHALL
>>56984977
and you killed your entire family because kids can't be trusted with guns. We know how the story ends.
>>56985312
Why is that ejection port so large to eject pistol casings?
>>56989928
NHAT
>>56989704
>Is it possible for you to make a more ridiculous statement? You literally just said that I, personally, sell firearms to nigger gangs.
Now you make shit up? You said nothing of the sort in a response to me, you claimed I was making up the fact that people like you allow guns to be sold to niggers privately, you said it was false.
Does it hurt, being this stupid?
>>56986092
Only 43% of Americans own guns?
That is way too low desu.
>>56989704
You know what is really really funny? In canada we have gang shootings, and yet we have gun control and pretty effective gun control. The nigs can't buy guns from gun stores in canada, so the question is, how do the they get them?
the answer: a red neck, produce of multi-generational incest fuck from South Carolina sold guns to folks who later sell it to nigs who smuggle them up to canada. That glock you sell without papers or id in your gunshow for 400 dollars goes for 3000 USD in canada.
So yes, you fucking degenerates are fuelling the gang violence through your paperless arms.
>>56989865
fuck off canadabro. Community policing is a real thing, and it isn't about usng law enforcement as a standing army in a community. for fuck sakes, back in the late 19th c, electing sherifs and having the sherif deputize people was the ultimate form of community policing. A sherif couldn't do squat to a community unless it was in the community's interest.
>>56990208
because it shoots upwards of 300 babykillers a second, shitlrod
>>56979016
>Obongo still has one year to ruin your country.
>>56990431
Does it fire this round?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osgrd1MPb7I
>>56982149
This
>>56990223
>you indirectly sell guns to nigger gangs
>you claimed I was making up the fact that people like you allow guns to be sold to niggers privately, you said it was false
Fuck, man. I've literally never sold a firearm in my life.
Stop and think before you spray shit in a circle around you.
>>56990260
Then guns are banned in the US (in your fucking dreams). Then the IRA in ireland will just sneak in guns. Just like plenty of smugglers what they did during prohibition. They also made their own moonshine, the equivalent is 3d printed guns as well as guns from materials from hardware stores (four winds shotguns and other pistols).
There will ALWAYS be a black market. Criminals don't obey laws, they will find a means to circumvent them.
You syrup niggers are retarded. Stay out of logical arguments.
>>56982149
I just love the aesthetics of a Glock pistol.
>>56990575
no, you daft bastard, it shoots 600 of them
>>56979016
>huffpo
Oh look, it's fucking nothing.
>>56984895
You have expensive and poor taste friend-o
>>56981343
>the coasts
Almost everybody on the "left coast" outside Socal, Seattle, and Portland is a conservative.
It would be dumb to kill your allies. We'll take care of the cities when the time comes. By the time you can say "hate crime" this whole coast will demographically, and culturally, be essentially Montana.
>>56990260
I hate to be the one to tell you about your own country, but:
http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/wd98_4-dt98_4/p9.html
>In theory, there are three major illegal sources of firearms: theft, smuggling and illegal manufacturing. Unfortunately, there is very little information in Canada on any of these activities. In its 1997 Annual Report on Organized Crime in Canada, the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada reported that ""organized crime groups and individual criminals have access to a wide variety of firearms with an increasing predilection for automatic weapons"
So you're basically making shit up based on your vast street experience or whatever. Even your government isn't sure how illegal firearms are circulated.
Automatic weapons can't be sold in private deals, by the by. We have gun control regulating that. The more you know...
>>56990891
Would it be better to say then, suburban and rural vs. urban?
>>56990790
Once in awhile....
Huffington Post does have funny info....
>>56979016
>things that will never happen
>>56981740
This. The coasts siphon from the midlands. Without us they have no food nor water. Not to mention most farmers are either redpilled or racist.
>>56981343
you mean Rural vs. Urban
>>56982963
That's already the law. Even with a ccw permit you aren't allowed to carry in federal buildings.
>>56983363
Yes because most miltiary members arent deep republicans. Also most military members would be more than happy to start killing american citizen because obama says so.
What planet are you from?
>>56990985
sheeeeeeeiiiit
>>56983381
This. I love all the knee jerking
The actual police (not Chiefs) like their guns and like their families and friends having them.
That said, watch out for selective confiscation in the name of mental health.
Been prescribed Zoloft? No guns. Been depressed ever? No guns. Go to Alcoholics Anonymous? No guns. Etc.
>>56990973
Now we're talking. The cities will destroy themselves, all we have to do is prevent the exodus of raiders who will start increasing their search radius as supplies run out in the cities.
I read a while back that the average person has only three days of food in their house. It was a poll from the media, which makes me assume that they just conducted it in NY or LA. I know most farm people are smart enough to buy shit in bulk and they also raise crops and animals. My grandparents were raised on ranches during the Depression and they never wanted for anything but ribbons and gum (the 1915 equivalent of an iPhone).
Anyway three days of unrest, followed by several days of starving, followed by reaver hordes is what city folk can look forward to. We'll just burn out a few key bridges and wait them out. Probably have to shoot the swimmers though.
>>56988230
I think he was being sarcastic.
>>56986943
The beauty is in its performance.
>>56979016
guys i just realized something...
The government is afraid its citizens will use guns to kill people. They use their fear to justify taking away our freedoms.
but what about our fears? what about our fear of letting in refugees and potentially isis. what about our legitimate concern for not being BTFO by some "daesh" goatfucker.
Govt doesnt care about us, or our fears or intentions. Apparently we have to fear what the government tells us to fear. if that isnt terrorism at its finest i don t know what is...
eventually people will pick up on this, and start calling out the government en masse. thats when shtf.
>>56990669
Yall murikeks dont get logic. 3d printed guns are made out of fucking melted plastic, the machinery to produce a gun, to gun smith, can be regulated. The machinery to produce constant quality grain munition can be regulated. Alcohol is pretty easy to make.
Laws are enforced by the weight and power and persistence of a state. The state, the people, will always be stronger than the lone wingnut wet dreaming the next ruby ridge standoff
>>56979016
Come try and take it nigger
>>56979016
ALLAHHHUUU ACKKKBARRR!!!!!!!!!!!
ALLAHHHUUU ACKKKBARRR!!!!!!!!!!!
ALLAHHHUUU ACKKKBARRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>56990930
>http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/wd98_4-dt98_4/p9.html
all the cited sources are over a decade old, some approaching 20 years.
read this: http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2013/04/19/the_gun_pipeline_mules_who_bring_firearms_across_border_pay_high_price_for_fast_money.html
And automatic firearms aren't what the niggers got accessed to. What they have access to is hand guns, and hand guns they buy from gun shows.
>>56992095
ruby ridge re-enactment society awaits you murikek
>>56986943
It grows on you.
A lot.
>>56988753
They probably forgot you stupid prejudiced anti-white racist bigot!
was the guy from yesterday a registered gun owner with legal firearms?
>>56982149
>>56981034
One of the best handguns/firearms ever made, although im not a fan of the 9mm.
My father carries the 19, I prefer and carry a 1911, cant go wrong with either one
>>56991964
Why are you afraid? Don't you have a couple of guns?
People keep asking what we're so afraid of that we need guns. The answer is nothing - we have guns already.
>>56992433
i believe so
>>56991997
And yet during Prohibition here, homemade alcohol was less prevalent than black market sales of stockpiled or illegally imported booze.
>>56991997
>3d printed guns are made out of fucking melted plastic
That's why the government has essentially decided not to worry about them. They are more expensive to obtain than a Hi-Point and less durable.
We already have so many guns that everybody who wants them can get them. I might say that for a place like Germany or Sweden, a 3D printed gun might make some sense IF you couldn't make an AK or an axle gun for much less money.
>>56991997
>the machinery to produce a gun
Seriously? The US economy would dip and the entire country would collapse because no one can get a permit to buy mills/lathes to support a small business.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the US congress cares not for the small matters of the peasantry, it is our wallets they care about.
>>56991784
Worst trigger ever made, poor balance, shit tier gun.
It's OK if you're a dindu, cop, or an evil henchman in Dr. Evil's army.
>>56992604
slam-bangs are the best improvised firearm by far, assuming you can make or acquire 12 gauge.
>>56984895
>flintlock pistols
Is this like your family collection since the Constitution was first written or something?
>>56992604
Or just make a shotgun out of pipe
>>56979016
I'll never get the rational behind the conservative paranoia over guns.
The constitution protects them. The government can't revoke them without a major change of law. The president literally cannot do it.
Every time a conservative tells you a liberal is going to take their guns, you should hit them in the face with the butt of your rifle and take them to have them checked for mental issues.
>>56979016
>yes buy more ammunition goyim, Obongo is going to take away your guns again!
Fuck off shill. Faggots like you are the reason ammo is so fucking expensive.
Does someone have that "Its MY DAMN CAKE" comic for this guy?
>>56993147
>>56992864
>Kurt Saxon
>The Poor Man's James Bond
good to know people are using it, I haven't needed to make anything in that book but I still read it from time to time.
>>56992720
>I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the US congress cares not for the small matters of the peasantry, it is our wallets they care about.
You really think the fed is evil? Do you realize that the consumer boom you experienced in the early 2000s which allowed many shit-tier poor people to buy those 1000 dollar computers for the first time was a direct result of the interest and monetary policies of the fed? Congress doesn't want to fuck the people who vote for them. They want to give you the world just for the next vote without realizing what the means. Congress, collectively, is mirroring what the greek politicians did: promise everything.
but back to guns: mils and lathes aren't the issue, to produce a cold bored barrel you need specific equipment, technology and even coolant. to produce it with precision, each lathe/mill owner would have to optimize for that. this is why big gun companies exist because the small smith cannot capitalize and maintain a business that can hire the engineers to do the work, nor can small businesses (unless they scale up via other means) can fund that sort of investment unless they have a big market. once the small smith gets bigger, they will become more noticeable and they need to become big to produce the quality of guns the bigger manufactures do produce.
so yes, it won't stop small smiths from making guns, but it will degrade the quality, and degrade the capacity for them to produce a lot of new guns.
also this wouldn't do anything about existing in circulation. to cease that, it's as simple as restricting and regulating the manufacturing and regulation of gun powder and forcing manufactures to change the molecular structure of some chemicals to reduce pressure.
>>56992604
The only components you can print in a printed gun are the lower receiver and not the barrel. The same temperatures to melt the plastic cannot be exceeded by the gas the propels the bullet. printed guns do not make sense. at all.
>>56992864
>the best
No they're shit.
Why even bother fiddling with that shit? Get a real gun. This isn't Germoney.
And who'd do the confiscation? Both the police and military hate him. If he decided one day to be like, "yeah screw elections I'm the dictator now" the joint chiefs of staff with the secret service would arrest him.
>>56993476
>>56992864
Oh, in case you want to make easy money at a gun buy back, you can make a few slam bangs
>>56993754
It's just hot air and paranoia courtesy of the arms industry, which makes a fucking ton of money off of perpetuating fear among gun owners.
>>56993147
>The constitution protects them.
The constitution means nothing with a supreme court that can abruptly decide it says gay marriage is protected.
There are two ways to change the constitution:
1) actually amend it, with the cooperation of supermajorities of both houses of congress and the state governments, or
2) decide it means something other than what it says, which takes 5 guys, in a body of 9 (who are appointed for their political loyalties whenever one happens to need replacing at a time when the same party controls the presidency and the senate), and the lack of a congress supermajority opposed to it.
>>56987648
>Especially when I live in a state where niggers go next door to get their weapons in this exact manner.
No law is going to make Deshawn bring his stolen gun to an FFL to have them run a NICS check on Tyrone.
>>56993830
>100% correct
also, do you guys know how long those munitions you bought will last in your humid basement?
>>56993678
>the lower receiver
I know and 3d printed plastic is terrible for this. I don't even know why 3D printed guns are even on anybody's radar at this point.
Especially in America where we have basically more firearms than the rest of the world's civilians and militaries combined in the hands of everyday people. I own something like 30 guns, it's hard to even keep track any more.
Pictured: less than 10% of my guns.
SECESSION NOW, FELLOW SOUTHRONS. IF OUR CURRENT GOVERNORS WILL NOT DO THE RIGHT THING WE MUST, FOR THE GOID OF OUR COUNTRY, HANG THEM.
I'M READY. ARE YOU?
>>56986575
Because that immigration reform executive order worked out so well for Obama, right? Please educate yourself.
>>56990208
Truth be told, I don't know.
Thing is sex to shoot. Recoil is like a damned .22.
>>56993878
This canadabruh doesn't know what jurisprudence means.
>>56989862
fuck off, hat. shitpost elsewhere
>>56990861
Please, elucidate me on what would be better taste.
>>56979016
If indeed this proves to be another armed assault on a Planned Parenthood clinic and its patients, and his motives were to go after Planned Parenthood, many on the right will rush to excuse and even endorse what is essentially an act of domestic terrorism. They will defend his right to bear arms, just as the NRA does.
Prepping for the second civil war. I feel it is going to happen before Bongo leaves office.
>>56991592
This. They have already done the confiscation of those whom have ever stayed at a mental ward even if it was for small things like an eating disorder or plain depression (which most have but not everyone goes to help).
Then they expanded it to, any one in your home has been in the mental institution, then everyone in the home isn't allowed to have a gun and their constitutional right no longer matter. Everything is a slippery slope when it comes to government. You give an inch, they WILL take a mile.
We should be fighting for the rights of those whom merely stayed at a mental institution. Not all of them are crazy. Obama and liberals are the same ones who want to give prisoners the right to vote for their benefit. Why shouldn't felons have the right to own guns stated in the second amendment if they do their time? Why shouldn't someone who had mental issues for a short time due to an event (family members dying etc) then fully rehabilitated be able to defend themselves in their own home? Just because they had one meltdown they can never own a gun ever again?
>>56983671
The President isn't involved in amending the US Constitution hardly at all. You're stunningly ignorant. It requires 2/3 of the Congress then 3/4 of the states. That's pretty much it.
>>56990422
Did you reply to the wrong guy?
>>56994027
how is speaking the truth shitposting? you want someone to just participate in your nutty circle jerk? wanna re-enact ruby ridge ya fucking kek? wanna stock up in ammo, keep them in your basement and realize you wasted thousands of dollars in a good that has an expiry date?
how about you help make america great by learning a skill?
>>56983671
Making it harder to buy firearms is infringing on that right, dumbfuck.
>>56994126
Nah bruh, it seems you were on some like 'obama is gonna ruin murica because he thinks militarizing the police is bad' type of shit.
>>56994145
>re-enact ruby ridge
I have no sons for the government to murder
>>56994145
Reenact the government fuckup that directly led to the worst domestic bombing in our history? Cool, I guess.
And my modern ammo will still be good when my grandchildren are old. So it's never a waste.
When you guys storm NYC, please don't kill all of us. We're basically prisoners here and will greet you as liberators
>>56990260
>So yes, you fucking degenerates are fuelling the gang violence through your paperless arms.
Even if that's true, there's nothing you can do about it. Pass a law that permits Canadians the right to keep an bear arms. That's the only thing that keeps the peace in a well-armed world that you can't change anyway.
canuck-btfo.jpg
>>56994145
>"sane gun control"
>speaking the truth
>not shitposting
You've got some work to do before you can dethrone Ausfailia, but at least you tried.
>>56994000
>doesn't know what jurisprudence means.
jurisprudence (n.) - a system of elaborate excuses invented to justify pretending that the law means whatever one wishes it said
>>56979016
>The libshits are primed for forced confiscation.
Yay, it's non-Happening #1576.
I knew you guys could squeeze in a few more after Nuclear WW3.
Stay comfy ladies.
>>56994487
shitposting (v.) - when canada and australia are bored of sucking dicks and come tell americans how to live only to get btfo hard
>>56994102
>You give an inch, they WILL take a mile.
No, give them an inch, they will take your rifle.
Americans are as well armed as they've been in the modern era. They know what's coming: CIVIL WAR TWO. You'll need your rifle to kill Niggers. Everyone knows you'll need to kill Niggers... even Niggers know this, as they've got a jump start on killing Niggers themselves.
>>56979325
>implying I can raise food on my own
>implying I could live as a raider for more than a few months tops before I'm killed
I have enough guns to get out of dodge but I'm not delusional enough to think I could live long term off of them.
>>56979016
Obama really really wants to get impeached.
Do the inhabitants of Canuckistan truly believe they can dictate American gun rights by insisting that uncontrolled American guns cross the border? TOUGH FUCK, you goddamn maple-slurpers.
>>56994433
nah bro. the solution is to police these fucked up communities that are involved. they are mostly aboriginals who somehow think they are above the law, or dirty somalians.
ITT: no one actually tries to take any guns
And /pol/tards pretend they are John Rambo.
This stupid shit happens with every major white shooting crime, just like every black protest is Planet of the Apes/muh race war.
>>56979016
>MFW It's all going to hell in a hand basket at light speed and there's not a god damned thing I can do to stop it
>>56990208
Because it's an open bolt machinegun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqw2ENtN9s8
Plebs are only allowed closed bolt gay versions that serve to purpose.
>>56979016
>tfw I always support gun rights
>tfw I dare liberals to come and try to take my guns
>tfw I donate to NBA
The kicker is I don't even own a gun.
>>56986943
it just works
>>56994728
>>56994768
Bruh, do you when you are thick in a fight and like throwing hands like a cerebral palsy doing a seizure and you don't know what is up? that's what you wingnuts are. we in canada can see the shit from abroad, watching you guys get your panties twisted over what? obama gonna be impeached? muh guns? it's fucking right wing drama we love watching bro
>>56979325
Can i fly over there, fight for the constitution, and when the dust settles move to the countryside with an american woman. Im a white man btw
>>56979016
>WHERE IS THE VOICE OF REASON?!
In Congress where Republicans are in control
In the Senate where Republicans are in control
in the Supreme Court where a piece of paper says "shall not be infringed"
They won't take the guns at first. They'll start with the ammuntions then go from there.
>>56994804
/pol/ is like jerry springer. its just drama of the degenerative sorts. like, the world view cultivated here on /pol/ is literally not at all like the real world outside of this board. when /pol/ was first created, I thought it was going to be like meeting fellow /b/tards who studied political science, not the le virgin faggots who fear government.
like /pol/ could have honestly been a decent counter-force to sjw internet culture, but they got distracted by looking for links to the great Joden who is behind the curtain in that movie, which isn't reality.
>>56992864
They're also great improvised land mines.
>>56986092
Population under 18 is 23% you moron.
>>56995183
and they also require a readily available supply of industrial manufactured gun powdered. let's see you get good results by grinding your own salt peter bruh
>>56985010
It is. Ryan Gosling is a known defender of the second amendment.
>>56994594
You really think that your supreme court consistently interprets your constitution in good faith? If you believe that, you haven't been paying attention.
Canada wrote an excuse for judges to disregard citizens' supposedly-protected rights directly into our Charter of Rights and Freedoms whenever it seems like a good idea.
America accomplishes the same thing by circumlocution and blatant bad-faith interpretation.
Obamacare wasn't constitutional. Gay marriage isn't constitutionally protected. Shall not be infringed. None of these things is not like the others. All of these things are kinda the same.
The only thing that's been holding them back is the possibility of gun-owning democrats going republican. Obama gives these speeches, and then they look at public opinion.
>>56994881
You donate to nigs that put an orange ball through a hoop? lel jk
>>56986658
Black powder shooting is a blast, whether rifles or pistols. You should try it.
Oh...sorry
>>56984895
The vast majority of those are range toys with no real world value.
The rest is just junk.
>>56995271
Smokeless powder is made from nitroglycerine or nitrocellulose, or a blend of the two, with a gelling medium and stabilizer.
It wouldn't be particularly difficult to manufacture at home, there's just been no motivation, since it's available so cheaply.
>>56991997
but it isn't lone wingnuts that oppose gun control. The few wingnuts are the gun grabbers.
>>56990208
to contain the girth of it's owner, of course.
>>56988753
Former waiter here. Niggers are the fucking worst. Even the black servers didn't want to wait on them.
>>56990260
>ban guns
>criminals still are getting guns even though MUH LAWS
>AMERICA NEEDS TO BAN GUNS THEYRE TO BLAME FOR CRIMINALS GETTING GUNS
It's funny how obvious it is that your position actually supports gun ownership for private, non-criminal civilians who have done nothing to warrant their rights to arms be suspended.
>>56987648
Shut up thunderfoot
>>56984895
I like your style.
>>56979016
NOTHING
WILL HAPPEN
RELAX NIGGA
I swear to God if I see one more fat fucking fudd buy up all the 22 I will shit myself
>>56991997
>the state, the people
Nigga you speak as if they are the same thing. fucking statists man....
If the state is so fucking powerful, then why hasn't a state persisted contiguously for longer than a couple hundred years (fuck, a couple decades without undergoing massive radical rearrangement) while "the people" have persisted for upwards of 4 millenia in the case of china?
Why do uprisings and the destruction of states happen on a regular basis?
>>56992221
Fucking canadians thinking that americans are going to let the government just ban guns.
Most of the members of the military join because they're willing to risk their lives in order to keep their rights. They're willing to sign away their lives for years and undergo nearly torture in order to gain the skills and the connections needed to preserve the ideals of their nation. One of the most important of those is gun ownership.
>>56990222
BAE
>>56996595
someone didn't study their political science. the polity always changes bruh. the notion of the state as being truly independent of the people, as an entity separated from the people, is a totalitarian simplification. Even in societies that are totalitarian, the legitimacy of the regime depends on the what the people will put up. people and state are not independent entities from each other, the people make up the state. the failure for a state to persist is a failure to maintain those social contracts, but none of this matters because (and this is me handing it to your ignorance) even if a state only last a couple hundred of years, the state has more persistence than your movement.
>>56996872
infringed upown
>>56996747
>Most of the members of the military join because they're willing to risk their lives in order to keep their rights. They're willing to sign away their lives for years and undergo nearly torture in order to gain the skills and the connections needed to preserve the ideals of their nation. One of the most important of those is gun ownership.
right, infantry. if you were an officer you would know the effectiveness of the military is not in the combat craft of infantry but in the totality of the organization. the military to put boots on the ground to be an effective force needs the whole backing of the nation to produce what it consumes. this is where the survivalist prep-er mentality fails: how the fuck are you gonna run a militia when the totality of the state, including the whole of private industry, can be mobilized against you? For fuck sakes, the kebabs want to put a hurting on your govt and you guys gave them free training by serving as target practice and a darwinian force to eliminate their weak, and yet they find it really really hard to attack america. It isn't because of guns bruh, it's because you have engineers, scientists, everyone, putting tech to ground, watching everything.
this is what you are facing: a state capable of knowing who you are, and capable of mobilizing all sectors of its economy to destroy you. people at the end of the day care about quality of life more than rights and congress knows this.
>>56996183
I disagree, some nips will be downright kind to you because they know you could fuck with their food idle you wanted to.
It's the kebab which are the scum
What pissed me off the most is that shit eating grin they give you while they call you brother in every sentence. Fuck I'm glad I'm not a waiter anymore
>>56996747
>Most of the members of the military join because they're willing to risk their lives in order to keep their rights.
Actually, most of your fuckhuge military signs on because it's the best-paying job their near-unemployable asses can get, or to pay for their education. The officers are pursuing careers which make them feel important and powerful, and eventually land them huge salaries working for contractors, where their connections to old buddies are an asset. The elites joined for the thrills and stayed for the esprit de corps.
>>56997311
>people care more about quality of life than rights.
bro did you burn all of your history books to keep warm up there in the frozen wastes or something?
>>56997408
Does Canada even have a military tho?
>>56997477
bruh did you bother to read anything that is not pop history, or learn history from a place that doesn't have in its name: "channel", "community", or "high school"?
the degradation of the social contract as it relates to quality of life is what leads to the breakdown of society. it has always been the case, even the french revolution was brought by this. also poverty is relative. don't be a philistine faggot son, srsly.
>>56997021
>political science
>science
fucking contradiction in terms. Soft "science" isn't science, its conjecture. The word science is taken, lefty, find a new word for your un-authoritative pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
Do you realize how much a steaming pile of shit that argument is?
>the people are the state
No the state is a corporation that maintains a monopoly of violence and provides services in exchange for not being taken over by a different state that either is militarily more powerful or offers the people a better services to being-fucked-in-the-ass-by-elites rato.
>>56986063
yes indeed they were brithomeskillet
>>56997558
Hahaha, yah we do. Just because we don't spend twice our budget on it as we do on education and health care combine, it doesn't mean we don't have it.
and the dynamic >>56997408 describe is also pretty true up here too. the enlisted are really almost neet level fucks, but we have nothing like a GI bill so there is no social mobility. the officers are there, they are there for free education, there are no lucrative positions waiting for them. Maybe a book deal if they are a general.
>>56979325
Yes.
>>56979625
Where do I buy this Social Juices? What's the alcohol content? If it's higher than your average strong beer then I'll pay handsomely for it. Also select all of the squares with turkeys.
>>56997311
>it's because you have engineers, scientists, everyone, putting tech to ground, watching everything.
Like in France, one of the best intelligence agencies in the world?
and btw who the fuck is the private sector if not the people? You think the public would continue supporting a totalitarian dictator in office?
>>56979016
desu gun control laws are extremely tough to nail down. You either have a bunch of pissed off people with guns who will stur shit if you attempt to take it away or someone with mental problems who will do a crime with a fire arm. Real talk is there any way to actually make it work?
>>56997640
history minor from a private liberal arts college. but i know nothing apparently.
Enjoy your ivory tower. the same cultural revolution that the godless barbarians pulled in France label people like you intellectuals, then they torture and kill you.
If you think the FR was a good thing or was progressive, you're a fucking scrub.
The French Empire was POST Revolution. Meaning the revolution did jack shit. It's only been recently that france pulled the autocratic stick a little further out of its ass to institute a meaningful democratic state.
Too bad they vote for socialists and render it pointless anyways.
>those comments
Molan labe etc etc...
>>56981469
>>56986063
http://blogs.umb.edu/quoteunquote/2012/05/01/jeffersons-second-amendment-quote-demands-a-second-opinion/
>Wikipedia’s entry on the Second Amendment says the quotation is one of many misattributed to Jefferson. It says the quote can’t be found before 2007, the year it surfaced in a book by Matt Carson, On A Hill They Call Capital: A Revolution Is Coming.
>>56979016
>shall not be infringed
>build wall
>pants up don't loot
>>56997680
>fucking contradiction in terms. Soft "science" isn't science, its conjecture. The word science is taken, lefty, find a new word for your un-authoritative pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
Someone learned the word conjecture but doesn't understand how a statement that is falsifiable is falsifiable. learn some philosophy of science ya community college educated faggot.
>Do you realize how much a steaming pile of shit that argument is?
HAHAHAHAHA
>No the state is a corporation that maintains a monopoly of violence and provides services in exchange for not being taken over by a different state that either is militarily more powerful or offers the people a better services to being-fucked-in-the-ass-by-elites rato.
Assad a monopoly on violence in syria, but something happened. What happened bruh? Putin knows his power relies to heavily on seeking legitimacy from the people, and since he can't improve their quality of life, he needs to engage in cheap spectacles of nationalism.
this is why political science is a science: the causes of a collapse of the state can be linked to the degradation of the social contract and the collapse of what supported it. this statement is falsifiable.
>>56997965
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is clearly explained in Federalist Paper 46, by James Madison; And that purpose is for individuals to be capable of protecting themselves and to protect themselves and others from tyranny in government, being armed and knowing how to use a gun fits that purpose. I’m not sure why that’s so difficult to understand. Also, Jefferson and Madison may have wanted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to be able to be altered, but for the benefit of the people, not to the benefit of the government. It doesn’t benefit us in any way, or help us further protect ourselves per the intent of the 2nd Amendment by allowing the government to cripple it’s intent.
The existing Bill of Rights was the only reason for accepting the Constitution with a stronger centralized government over the Articles of the Confederation. It’s clear and unambiguous if you read the very words of the men who wrote them. If you don’t understand that, you are a threat to American rights and freedom.
>>56984895
>mfw a nog with a jennings takes you out in your sleep
>>56998044
yeah you know what happened to Assad's state? It lost it's mandate and a bunch of "the people" with fucking privately owned GUNS went out and broke his state to shit.
Like what will happen in this country if the state tries to ban guns.
Bro you're so close yet so far....
>collapse of state due to degradation of social contract
Exactly what is fucking talked about by the gun-owning "right-wing extremists" in this counry.
We're watching our social contract, written down in the constitution, being torched in front of our very eyes.
It's already nonexistent for a huge portion of the racial minorities in this country. Which is hy they're denying the state legitimacy within their communities.
>>56981687
Don't listen to people who know almost nothing about guns, this poster included. The 590A1 is a great gun, and one I intend to pick up as soon as I can. However, you don't need it. You can pick up a 500 for nearly half the price, and it will do the exact same thing. I'm not familiar with Finland's gun laws, but you might be better off with a rifle if you can get one. Are you worried about niggers breaking down your door? If the answer is no, then buy a rifle between .270 and .308 caliber. If you're dead set on a shotgun, then get the 500. It'll do whatever you want it to do and then some, plus it'll save you a lot of money over the awesome, but unnecessary, 590A1.
>>56997842
France intelligence agency is not one of the best. It isn't even part of the five eyes. Also other intelligence agencies were warning france, and they had those guys on possible targets to watch list, but i guess they aren't funded properly. And for them to do what they they, it wasn't easy. The kebabs aren't dumb, the ones who survive learn lessons that are taught to others, and yet their effectiveness is terrorism. they still cannot operate in the open. they have to use asymmetrical warfare. so yes, having the full weight of a state, and a state that is a super power, won't make it easy for the 'freedumb' militia of bumfuck nowhere to resist obanjo or whatever.
>and btw who the fuck is the private sector if not the people? You think the public would continue supporting a totalitarian dictator in office?
China bruh, people support their government and its totalitarian. Their private sector support their government by delivering services to it.
>>56997904
>Enjoy your ivory tower. the same cultural revolution that the godless barbarians pulled in France label people like you intellectuals, then they torture and kill you.
And you are implying that I stand with them? Tell me about cultural marxism and how it is a brain washing tool and not some deranged wingnut bringing together a bunch of an analytical lenses together because of their purported jewish links?
>>56979325
should have killed you all after the first Civil War
>>56979016
This is great ameriburgers will lose their guns and burgerland will descend into chaos and bloodshed.
yall really fucked up now
This happened RIGHT AFTER Thanksgiving, obama was enjoying the itis and rubbing his belly after a long ngap but then was disturbed by this shit
have no idea how pissed he is do you?
>>56998178
I understand that. What allowed the American colonists to stand up to a 1st class world power was not speeches or assemblies or even their firm commitment to republican values and individual freedom. It was cold lead propelled into the face of the British line.
But I also understand that before that occurred there were speeches, and assemblies and that firm commitment. I also understand that right now unsourced quotes have the potential to harm credibility. The actual words of those who crafted this republic need to ring louder now than ever before.
>>56998512
Hopefully you Australians get cancer
>>56979016
Literally impossible,
Good luck to him
>>56994226
Australian here. I obviously don't have a big grasp on guns as a result of living where I do. But, I don't see the issue with this? More stringent testing and all that. Surely that would make people happy? It's not like it'd be THAT much harder to obtain guns if you really wanted one.
>>56993476
> It is your right to share the knowledge in this wonderful book. It is completely legal to sell it or buy it. If it were not so, I would have told you.
>>56998894
If he tries to take away their guns then they're violating the 2nd amendment which is basically what they need to have in case the government gets tyrannical, and we all know what tyrannical dictatorships do, right?
>>56998460
>And for them to do what they they, it wasn't easy.
no kidding half the battle was logistical.
Being protected by the law, American militias operate openly. Its not hard to join one here.
I wouldn't compare the Chinese population's ire with that of Americans. Chinese are sheep, they literally commit suicide if they don't get good grades in high school. lel
>>56998576
THIS
THIS
THIS
you're the only person on this thread whos is really getting it.
>>56995271
It's not hard with a ball mill, salt peter is easy to get. And you just make the black powder granulated with alcohol and a wire screen.
It may not be good enough to load ammo but there are plenty of good uses for it
>>56998512
oh strallia
>>56998460
No i'm not going down that rabbit hole, im not one of those retards. Notice the part where i'm not launching into that stupid shit, where i shout down everything you say as jewish conspiracy?
but i'm saying that supporting the state (at all) leads to some fucking brutal shit. Mao and his youth brigades in the great leap forward.
Believing that the state (institution) and the people are inseparable based on some intellectual perspective on politics is a cornerstone in actual marxism. Cultural marxism as a conspiracy is a recipe for schizophrenia. Cultural marxism (cultural left-hegelianism is a better term) as a trend in intellectual thought is a much different story.
By including the term science, one is comparing sociology, political philosophy or economics to hard science like the maths, physics, chemistry and biology is downright self-aggrandizing.
The state should always be treated like an extremely dangerous animal that can snap at any moment and kill you. One should do business with and under it with the utmost of trepidation. Not actively resisting it is naive.
The current states that make up the west, having accumulated so much power, have transitioned past the point of dangerous and are now extremely harmful, and very well entrenched (strategically impossible to supplant via anything but military dissolution).
This has led always directly to societal collapse as the environmental systems upon which the society is founded upon are strained beyond capacity.
>>56995271
dude, it's very easy to make explosives. nitric acid and a sufficently hydrogenated hydrocarbon substrate, like cellulose or glycerine.
Just a couple tons of fertilizer and some copper are all you need to make nitric acid.
Question. If you saw your neighbor getting raided by the confiscation police, and he was fighting back. Would you stand with your neighbor and help him?
>>56999607
It depends. pick your battles.
If the raid police get your neighbor, it's more prudent to go innawoods and strategically engage your now openly hostile enemies using guerrilla tactics.
>>56999730
If the battle was, after him your next because your both registered owners. I think one of the keys to success is sacrifice, and aiding people in the same boat.
>>56999835
hearts and minds?
There would be a resistance, an armed one in fact, if the government ever tried to pull this one on the American public.