Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system, it saves money and thousands of lives per year.
Free college creates more employable people, infrastructure spending creates jobs, $15/hour minimum wage ensures that people with jobs can afford to live above the poverty line.
Breaking up big banks prevents future economic catastrophes, legalizing marijuana saves on policing and jailing costs.
All these combined will create a prosperous scenario for America. Tell me one single flaw in Bernie's plan.
>>56808007
>Free college creates more employable people
The problem is too many educated people in niche films with not enough jobs. Creating more people with liberal arts degrees does nothing but hurt the economy. Rest of your post isn't even worth responding too.
>>56808007
> Canadian flag
Opinion discarded.
>>56808007
>free
I thought we were past this OP.
>>56808007
Top kek
>>56808099
>a highly educated population is bad for the economy
Sorry buddy, you failed. Try again.
>>56808007
>Free college creates COMMUNISTS ANARCHISTS AND FEMINISTS
fixed that for you
>>56808007
The free money approach does not work forever, but hey we are Canada. Yes it will work for a short while then we go full riots. You do not realize what happens.
>>56808419
Ahh yes, those inevitable Canadian riots. Canadians are sick of paying too little for education and healthcare, we will rise up.
>>56808007
>Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system,
This is not true
And they control costs in a bureaucracy by letting people die
>Free college creates more employable people
It is the opposite
>infrastructure spending creates jobs
The infrastructure is fine, the only places with infrastructure problems have local governments who created those problems.
>Breaking up big banks prevents future economic catastrophes
Nothing would have happened even if they weren't bailed out
busts happen because of the boom.
The only reason liberals support policies, is because they think it will produce more liberal voters,desu
>>56808007
You do know its not free. You pay increased taxes. If you are including schools and other welfare your tax would end up like swedens are 30-40%. You would have barely enough money to pay for food and accommodation. Saving for a house would take decades. It effectively keeps more people poor despite their qualifications.
>>56808007
>Free college and weed LMAO!!!XXXDDD
>>56808738
OK, but you're wrong about everything.
>>56808860
Many Americans spend more on healthcare than they do on taxes. It's a bloated, ineffectual system that costs money and costs lives. It's easier to save for a house when you're not bankrupt from medical costs.
>>56808007
>Canada
>100% backing Burnout Sanders
No wonder your country is going to shit
Why in the fuck do millenials think *free college is a good idea? Do they not think ahead? This means that they go to college and get a good job, and then they are stuck paying for a bunch of snot-nosed punks lesbian arts degrees for the rest of their lives. If they actually make it in the world and get a high paying job, the cost of college would actually be higher for them in the long-run.
Get the government entirely out of the higher education system, it's not efficient, and any institution with government funding just rapes our tax dollars without discretion.
>>56808382
>Women's Studies degree
>highly educated
>>56808007
>All these combined will create a prosperous scenario for America. Tell me one single flaw in Bernie's plan.
All of that costing 30 trillion dollars.
>>56811370
It'll save money in the long run.
>>56811254
The government fucks up by giving grants and shit to niggers who drop out after the first year. Meanwhile bright intelligent people sometimes can't pay for college and the government does nothing to help them.
>>56811506
Wasn't there another president after George Bush we should see on that chart?
>>56808007
>Tell me one single flaw in Bernie's plan.
All of it.
>>56808007
You should support Trump, he believes the current year is 2015.
>>56808007
unbalanced budget, inflation, shitty foreign policy
>>56812152
Do you wa't a bush again ?
>>56812063
Come on Canada, you know that is really all you look for in a candidate.
Who said it was a bad plan?
>>56808007
faggot
dude
>>56808007
>Free healthcare
>Free college
Neither of these things are free. You're just making somebody else pay for it.
![a4aWblio3a0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HwCZWCB.jpg "a4aWblio3a0[1].jpg")
>Socialism
>Saves money
>>56814126
Which is an investment for the whole nation, which will help your families succeed and improve the communities you live in.
You also have to remember that you aren't immune from bankruptcy as a result of the current healthcare system in the US, most of the people that file for bankruptcy for healthcare related reasons are middle class people with stable incomes and insurance.
>>56808099
That is the issue. There simply are too little jobs for too many people, no matter how educated. All that free tuition would do is cause grade inflation on a corporate scale.
>>56814363
The UK has a nationalised, free on use healthcare system. Despite this the government spends less per capita on healthcare than the US.
Yep, despite people in the US having to pay for insurance themselves, their government STILL pays more than the UK. Insane really.
The US spends 17.1% of their entire GDP on healthcare, the UK spends 9.2%.
According to the WHO the United States had the fourth highest level of government health care spending per capita ($3,426) - The UK government spends less at £2129 ($3214) per capita despite it being free at the point of delivery.
>>56814507
Finally some sense in this thread.
>>56808007
Free*
>>56808007
>Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system, it saves money and thousands of lives per year.
Because no competition makes sure prices go down.
>Free college creates more employable people, infrastructure spending creates jobs,
Because right now there are a lot of jobs that arent being filled.
>$15/hour minimum wage ensures that people with jobs can afford to live above the poverty line.
Because the poverty line will magically stay the same due to inflation.
>Breaking up big banks prevents future economic catastrophes, legalizing marijuana saves on policing and jailing costs.
Yep. Bailouts dont.
>>56814907
And your junior doctors are going on strike because your health care system only functions because you treat young professionals as slaves.
>>56808007
>>56811506
Kek, you forgot Obongo.
>America has the best doctors, engineers, IT
>LEL LETS RUIN THAT SO SUZZY CAN GET HER LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE FOR "FREE" "FREE" EVERYTHING
>>56811506
Rofl I wonder why Obama isn't on there
>>56808007
US could have all this things, but corruption stops it.
US is as corrupt as Russia, it aint gunna happen.
>>56814507
The laws of supply and demand apply to people too, you know. A four-year degree is not some magic ticket to success,. and neither is lacking one a damnation to poverty. There are tons of middle class jobs which require only a trade school or apprenticeship.
By the way, I'm 100% behind free trade schools, but fuck free universities.
>>56815345
>Because no competition makes sure prices go down.
I'd argue this differently, I previously made a comment stating how the US's per capita government spending on healthcare is higher than the UK despite them not having free at the point of use healthcare.
So it's already more expensive without factoring in insurance, extra costs etc.
Think of it this way:
You are negotiating the cost of a drug from a pharmaceutical company, if you are in the US as an insurance company you may have a few hundred thousand to a few million customers. You may be able to get some bulk discount however this will be insignificant, as if you were to walk away from the purchase the pharmaceutical company wouldn't really be damaged by it. They still have many other potential companies to sell to.
Comparatively, if the NHS goes to a pharmaceutical company they are bargaining on behalf of 64 million customers. The NHS can effectively dictate the price that they will buy the drug for as if the pharmaceutical company chooses to say no, then they miss out on the entirety of the UK as a customer.
This extra bargaining power allows the NHS to get drugs and equipment and other facilities for much cheaper.
>>56815397
Not particularly true, our healthcare system was working fine when it was properly funded under the Labour government. The entire situation is being orchestrated by the conservative government to portray the NHS as unreliable to pave the way for privatisation.
The NHS funding has increased, but not relative to the growth in population, inflation and other increased expenses.
The NHS fails when the government wants it to fail, Thatcher made waiting times for critical operations go through the roof (months) due to continued lack of investment.
The issue with conservatism in the UK is that it always fails to invest in the future, thinking that somehow the free market will build the roads, schools, energy infrastructure, and healthcare that it generally fails to end up doing. This is usually what ends up in the Conservatives being voted out.
>>56809415
>OK, but you're wrong about everything.
liberals everyone
What all our Eurofriends fail to understand is that the cost of healthcare is much higher in the US than is typical in other countries, and Libtards just want Uncle Sam to foot the bill anyway instead of fixing the fucking price point problem in the first place. Free healthcare in the USA would be like hiding mildew with a carpet. The smell goes away but in 20 years your house is fucked.
>Work for the NHS aka 'free' healthcare
>Get paid shit compared to other countries for harder work (motto is literally do more with less).
>Work harder than all but 2 colleagues. We all get pay rises once per year on a set band scale and go up as often as the shittest lazy cunt who has no reason to work harder. No matter how hard you work you cannot get a pay rise that isn't based on time being here.
>Every better job wants a masters degree from a specific accredited university and 3 years experience in specific fields.
>Houses cost a fortune and gubberment keeps letting the poorest take out 95% loans to buy houses ramping house prices for the people who can actually save.
Thanks Big Government.
Nationalized healthcare is incredibly unconstitutional, Bernie is brain dead to think he can a. campaign on it or b. if elected ever pass it through congress/senate/supreme court.
Treat healthcare like the commodity it is and you'll see prices drop, when prices drop insurance rates will too.
>>56810467
>not for sale
Because xe/xim/xer is going o give it to me free, right?
>>56808007
Since Rand has little chance, and Donald seems incompetent to me, I, too, am throwing my lot in with Bernie.
>>56808007
>Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system, it saves money and thousands of lives per year.
It ain't free. The cost is just hidden. It will either continue to cost the same or become more expensive due to increase bureaucracy, in which case quality will decline in least necessary areas such as cancer related treatments.
>Free college creates more employable people, infrastructure spending creates jobs, $15/hour minimum wage ensures that people with jobs can afford to live above the poverty line.
It devalues college education and increases the time taken for someone to become a productive member of society. Highschool education is completely worthless in USA, which is why everyone goes to college to get a bullshit degree just so they can flip burgers or clean the toilets in McD. Even though even a retard without education could do that job.
What a joke. People seriously pay like 40k bucks or whatever to get a degree in gender studies in America. What the fuck?
15 dollars minimum wage is barrier to entry. You must really hate people who are worth less than 15 dollars a hour. (the niggers).
>>56812924
he was better than obama. trump is literally bush without the lobby/oil backing
>>56808007
See this shit?
This is why nobody takes Canada seriously.
I would support single payer if he gov stopped spending on everything else and actually balanced the fucking budget. For example defund PP, stop spending money on college degrees, lower military spending, lower welfare and food stamp spending. Since Democrats will never do that I'm just going to vote for someone who can balance the budget.
>>56819317
>literally teen pregnancies and STDs and abortions galore from defunding PP
>being this goddamn retarded
>>56808007
>Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system, it saves money and thousands of lives per year.
Yes it does. It is great. Unfortunately there is no such thing as free healthcare, somebody has to pay for it.
>Free college creates more employable people, infrastructure spending creates jobs, $15/hour minimum wage ensures that people with jobs can afford to live above the poverty line.
Yes it does. It is great. Unfortunately there is no such thing as free college somebody has to pay for it.
>>56819522
Wall street speculators and rich cunts have to pay a little more. They have a social responsibility to the poor and middle class citizens. Nobody gets rich in a vacuum.
>>56808007
>canada
jamals trying to become the new shitpost king
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>>56817558
>>56808534
You pay in wait time for your hellcare.
>>56819808
Then its not free college.
Also you could not pay for everyone to have free college even if you taxed every person making a million a year or more at 100%.
>>56808007
There is no such thing as free.
>>56817558
Primaries don't matter. You should support Rand Paul in the primary.
>>56808007
>Free
>free
>Free
Fucking hang yourself you NEET shit
>>56819808
What are property rights
>>56808099
but the people who get education in the niche liberal arts degrees end up with some of the best jobs either because of nepotism and connections, or due to raw work ethic. why get a degree in computer science when you can get a degree in philosophy, and still get a better job offer?
the problems is middle/working class kids thought that they could study bullshit degrees and still do well. college was never about education. it was about status. too many people entered a market that wasn't fit for them, and now they are riddled with debt and have no viable skill set and no connections.
>>56815397
Not true Anon.
They are only going on strike because the government wants to cut the NHS and don't care about it.
The main reason for the strike is explicitly because the health secretary is such a wanker and wont negotiate with them.
Though it is a ball-breaker of a job, but it's something a lot of people aspire to be anyway as it's a good thing to do regardless of pay.
>FREE
>FREE
>FREE
This is why Bernie's emails were marked as scam spam by google.
>>56808007
shit results
>>56820669
How "good" a job is doesn't matter if it has a high stress high volume workload and little recompense. It's simply unsustainable.
>>56817274
Why don't you just work for private healthcare and rake in all the shekkels then?
>>56819171
nice constructive argument dumb fk. At least OP had substance
>Free College
>make it more competitive than now (top 5%)
/pol/ literally BTFO
>>56817274
>work at a healthcare job.
>job pushes you to work hard as a public servant.
>not feeling pride in being a worker that does good works for your fellow citizens.
>>56821098
Literally pinko logic.
>>56820863
>It's simply unsustainable.
Well it's managed to sustain itself in the UK since 1948 so that's not really true, is it?
DUDE
>>56815797
Trade schools actually gives people skills to use in the market. Liberal arts degrees only function to create more professors of that liberal art, at best. At worst, it makes an unemployed commie and agitator with a hilarious amount of debt.
What is up with the Bernie hate?
Education would be paid for through the "Robin Hood Tax Act" >http://www.robinhoodtax.org/news/blog/sen-bernie-sanders-officially-introduces-robin-hood-tax-act
Healthcare would be paid for by a tax increase. But this tax increase will be less than the amount the average citizen pays per capita for healthcare. Leading to more money in peoples pockets in the end. Also this will motivate people to go to the doctor more for preventive reasons lowering the amount of ER visits thus lowering the amount of medicaid the government pays.
https://www.healthcare-now.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/0312friedman.pdf
>>56808007
>Free healthcare fixes the bloated healthcare system
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
AAAAAAAAHAHHAHHAHAH
>>56820137
I'm not a registered Republican or Democrat, if it looks like Rand has a shot, I'll register as a Republican and vote for him. If he doesnt have a shot, I'll register as a Democrat and vote for Bernie to make sure that Hillary doesn't win the Democratic Primary. In all honesty, a situation where Hillary and Trump both won their respective primaries is my ideological nightmare.
>>56808007
>Tell me one single flaw in Bernie's plan.
15 dollars an hour means less people hired. More taxes means people have less money, less money means less spending (less people buying, less people hired)
Good job you have a degree like everyone else does. Now go look for a job when there are even less openings and more competition for it.
>>56808007
>find the flaw
It's all wishful thinking
>>56824127
He will create jobs by increasing infrastructure spending. More taxes means you don't have to go bankrupt and die when you get sick. People who are bankrupt and dead have zero money (less people alive, less people hired).
>>56820835
My sides
