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Why did the great empire of Rome go to shit? Was it really decadence,
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Why did the great empire of Rome go to shit?
Was it really decadence, women's lib and foreigners?
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>>56801676

Islam.
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>>56801676
go look outside and at the people in this country, it was literally written down decadence.
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https://mises.org/library/inflation-and-fall-roman-empire
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>>56801676
Each generation , under the protection of the empire, loses understanding of the effort required to maintain the empire. What we label as degeneracy and decadence is really putting our individual wants ahead of the collective need. The empire needs citizens to support it, when the citizens forget this they doom themselves.
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>>56802138
>2015
>citing mises
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>>56801676
roman baths
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>>56802261
yes.
I am open to counterarguments.
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>>56801709
pretty sure OP means the actual roman empire, not the byzantines.
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>but how often does a gilded bed contain a woman that is lying in? So great is the skill, so powerful the drugs, of the abortionist, paid to murder mankind within the womb. Rejoice, poor wretch; give her the stuff to drink whatever it be, with your own hand: for were she willing to get big and trouble her womb with bouncing babes, you might perhaps find yourself the father of an Ethiopian; and some day a coloured heir, whom you would rather not meet by daylight, would fill all the places in your will.
Juvenal Satire 6

>tfw Roman woman of the 1st century already were coal burners.
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>>56802222
i couldn't agree more
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>>56801676
Germanic 'refugees' fleeing the huns, then pillaging and razing the remains of the empire

But at least, romans fought back
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>>56801676
They became so powerful there life was too ez and they got lazy
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People forget the challenges of life that brought them together in the first place. Once a certain point is reached, there becomes no desire to help thy neighbour. Once people forgot why they built the empire in the first place it's easier to destroy it.
Look at today, we didn't build our countries up, we were born into them. People are now fighting for what they want, they want to build their own empire at the cost of what it is that makes them able to do just that
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There was apparently massive depopulation over the later Roman period, especially in the West - more and more land was left fallow, probably due to plagues due to the extensive trade networks. We think of a successful empire and assume it must grow in hugely in population, but seems it wasn't the case. Part of the explanation anyway.
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>>56802222
Think this guy is right.
People used to fight for rights,now they fight to shut up people they disagree with.
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