Wednesday on Fox News Channel’s “Special Report,” French Ambassador to the United States Gerard Araud defended a tweet he had posted in response to Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump immediately following the terror attacks in Paris this month. Araud described Trump as a “vulture” for questioning France's gun control laws after the attacks.
“Well, actually I received this message just as the moment we were under the shock of the attack,” Araud said. “So I am a fighter and I am a diplomat, so I decided to respond the way you did, but actually I erased the tweet I think 10 minutes later, saying it’s of no use.”
“But of course, I am supporting of the substance of it,” he continued. “It doesn’t makes sense. It was a theater, a theater hall. Imagine a theater hall and suddenly people enter with machine guns and are really killing people … It is only in the movies someone is using his gun to defend himself.”
>>56788493
>Only in the Movies Can Someone Use a Gun to Defend Himself
>>56788493
France confirmed for retards.
but does he understand that the gunmen aren't invincible? They were obviously overwhelmed, one bullet and one of the people in the theater could have neutralized the threat.
they're just thugs, why does he think they're gods? of course you can defend yourself. European men are really starting to creep me out.
>>56788493
france deserves everything that happens to them
>>56788493
>cheesing eating surrender monkey endorses surrendering to criminals and terrorists
Is anyone actually surprised by this?
I'm a very pro gun person but the idea the 2nd amendment would have stopped the gunmen is retarded. Even in America most establishments like the theatre prohibit carrying weapons. Any concert, bar, nightclub, etc are off limits to CC. Alcohol's a major influence in the event? No CC. You want to have some beers while you're out? No CC. It's essentially saying school shootings can't happen in America because of the 2nd Amendment.
FRANCE.
GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELVES.
>>56788493
how can defense be real if guns arent real
>>56788493
>Only in the movies.
13 year old boy kills two armed gunmen attempting to break in rape and murder him.
Multiple crimes have been on record stopped by armed citizens.
A school shooting was stopped by a teacher with a hand gun.
I have prevented myself from being robbed with a hand gun.
Dosent mister Frenchy fuckface have a secret service, that all holster guns which prevent him from being murdered?
>>56788493
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever fucking heard.
/r/ing that the french flag just be permanently changed to their true flag, the white flag of surrender. Give theirs to someone cool who doesn't have a good flag, like Ireland.
>>56788493
well it explains world war two doesnt it
>if someone comes to shoot you there is literally nothing you can do to stop it
france surrender memes literally confirmed
>>56788887
I wonder if his private security has guns. These people live in a complete bubble.
>>56788815
I'm always carrying. It's not like anyone's going to know unless I need to defend my life, and if I need to defend my life I don't care about those rules.
>>56788493
>France literally admit they are incapable of self defense
What a miserable end for a Country.
>>56788828
It's simple politics. He says a few soundbites to make for good politics for both countries home propaganda efforts.
Also, if this is in the UN, then remember that this is where you shove in good goys that have done their duties but cannot be allowed any more influence.
JUST
NUKE
MY
SHIT
UP
>>56788988
Yes, they do, all political members including the pope is protected by armed guard.
>>56788493
France, you are pathetic.
>>56788493
>French Ambassador
>‘Only in the Movies’ Can Someone Use a Gun to Defend Himself
This is why the surrender monkey meme won't die.
>>56788493
It's only in a touristic spot and leftist propagande when France is a happy country to live.
>>56788493
Basically what he says is that the French people should just accept death whenever a terrorist attacks them. I mean, attacking the terrorists is what ISIS wants
>>56789011
>I'm always carrying
The problem is if you get hemmed up by the police for anything and you have a pistol on you, you're fucked.
>Nigger starts a fight in the bar
>his fault
>find out you have a pistol
>Felony inbound
>>56788493
>You can't do anything but to accept the god given brown dick?
>Why would you take the issue of defending yourself and your future into your own hands rather than trusting your government?
>When did this ever failed?
>When did a democratic government ever turned authoritarian?
I swear to god, the naivity of the statement is killing me
>>56789129
Then the law should be changed to allow you to carry in bars and other areas. If people, privately, prohibit it on their own property, that's another kettle of fish, but stopping people from carrying blanket across certain locations is ridiculous.
So he's admitting that his armed guards exist only to murder people.
No Mister Ambassador I assure you it's a very real thing in the United States of America.
>>56788493
I don't think anyone agrees with him.
Also, reminder that the current French government is filled with people who want to ban guns.
Why can't we just get back to the turn of the 20th century where you could buy a gun anywhere in the world without paperwork or licenses or any of this shit?
>>56789120
>Trump is my pepper
>France
>4th seller of weapon in world
But "it-it's illegall ...".
Fuck this country.
>>56788493
Trump should just indicate that this fool is lying openly. If this french faggot believed his own words (which he does not, he merely apes this meme to keep the sheep in their state of helplessness) if he believed this meme, he should disarm the french police and the french army immediately.
Meanwhile in America....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZod2qyyN4
>>56789203
It's not illegal to bring your gun into a bar at all.
>>56789301
What weapons do we even exports?
Famas is a meme rifle pretty sure almost nobody uses it
Source please, I'm pro gun btw.
But wasn't Trump's tweet about the Hebdo attacks?
>>56789361
Source here... go to 3:35 for relevant comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0bK9gm_A6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0bK9gm_A6w
>I deleted the tweet 10 minutes later
CHEESE
EATING
SURRENDER
MONKEYS
>>56788493
The only nice thing about the liberal mindset is that it's self correcting.
They are the only species on the planet that has no concept of self preservation.
>>56789420
He's been repeatedly bringing up that the people in the theater were sitting ducks because their government wouldn't allow them to carry, had no way to defend themselves, etc.
>>56789452
Thanks, America! I want you to annex europe and make it great again.
What he meant is that the handful of people who might have carried side weapons in a jam packed concert hall in full panic mode wouldn't have made a difference against 4 people armed with assault rifles and suicde vests. This isn't a Hollywood movie.
Eddgelords know I'm right.
>>56789339
It is in several states.
>>56788493
>You cannot be allowed to carry a gun.
What if another attack happens?
>You call police!
Why?
>So you can wait and hope that other men who carry guns arrive in time before you are murdered.
>>56789348
Boats, planes, helicopter ...
>>56789633
You'd actually be surprised how much any resistance can have an impact on someone attacking you. Not to mention that it would dissuade attackers and would help bring security and safety, widely distributed, at no cost to the state.
>>56789129
Hey nice to know somebody caught all their law information from Tyron down the way huh.
You can get a carry permit for your fire arm in two simple ways.
1. Gun saftey course offered at multiple locations.
2. Go to the sheriffs offices, where you fill out paper work, get taken to a firing range to show you can properly use a fire arm, and know the risks.
Congratulations, you can now carry your fire arm faggot.
>But what if my fire arm is concealed.
WHY THAT'S EASY TO YOU APPLY FOR A CONCEAL CARRY PERMIT!! AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT! WHY ITS SIMPLE!
>Find a place offering conceal carry permit classes, spend $30-$50, attend a class for 7 hours, complete with fire arms test, range shooting, and otherwise.
>You will then be placed in front of a judge along with your fellow members, talked too similar to your drivers license, and issued a concealed carry permit.
Remember, just like purchasing a fire arm you will be given a background check on your gun, you go with a firearm that is licensed in your name.
Hipster shitster liberals pretend that all this shit is so easy anybody can do it, but to just purchase a gun they run a background check on you, and both carry and concealed permit are checks.
IN OTHER WORDS CRIMINALS STILL HAVE FIRE ARMS EVEN IF YOU DONT AND SAYING "I ban thee from shooting me" WONT DO SHIT!
>>56789633
No, he isn't right at all
>>56789697
>needing a permit to carry
>>56788493
>So I am a fighter and I am a diplomat
>fighter
>diplomat
You're good at one or the other. Considering he's a diplomat, I'm not exactly keen on him being a good fighter imo TtBbHh FfAaMm.
Don't forget that if guns were allowed in France. Muslims could also purchase them. Every mudslime in France would basically have a gun in his pocket.
>>56789633
have we invented a word worse than kuck for these idiots yet?
>>56789954
Oh you mean like the guys who already had machine guns and bombs?
Scary. You should disarm yourself!
>>56789954
are you suggesting that guns are the problem or muslims?
http://myrainbowcoloredworld.tumblr.com/post/3947297877/which-country-is-the-most-successful-military
>>56789339
51% rule
>>56789980
Is your police even armed, my little paki friend?
>>56789697
here in Maine you need no permit or license to buy anything other than a handgun
I can go to the store and get a shotgun right now i just need to submit to a background check and wait two weeks
>>56789697
What the fuck are you blabbering on about? If you actually paid attention you know establishments can prohibit whether they allow you to carry or not. A CC doesn't give you a James Bond license you cunt. Drink 6 beers, carry your pistol, confront the police and see how you turn out.
>muh rights
Woooooow, Trump hasn't even been nominated for anything, and already world officials are showing their fear and nervousness about Trump becoming president...veeeeeery telling!
Go Trump!
And the frog is deadly wrong btw, US can produce dozens of examples where an armed civilian has stopped a crime in progress.
>>56789633
Better disarm all of those police officers you have on your streets then.
>>56788493
Proof that Government and Elites believe they own "YOU" and that they do NOT serve you.
*** What happened to the American and French Revolutions POL/????
** What is the Magna Carta POL/???
* What was the Age of Enlightenment??
>>56788707
But does you understand that unless you are ready for the gunman then shock and fear isn't going to help because the other guy shot first?
is this frog on cocaine?
We know cocaine has some funky effects yuropoor politicians but hot dog dang!
I'm not taking any sides in this debate, but that baguettemuncher got me curious. How many rampage shooters have actually been stopped by civilians with guns?
>>56790332
>I moved the goal post from "cops can arrest you just for having a gun" to "hey if you get drunk while with a hand gun youll get arrested"
Meanwhile in the freedomland
http://articles.philly.com/1991-11-20/news/25769814_1_donald-trump-marla-maples-big-bat
NEW YORK — Call it The Donald to The Rescue.
When he saw "a big guy with a big bat" bashing another fellow, Donald Trump did what any self-respecting billionaire would do: He ordered his driver to pull over.
>>56790537
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm
http://www.pc4b.com/
article 61 of the Magna Carta was invoked by the Barons Council in 2001
>>56789203
>Then the law should be changed to allow you to carry in bars and other areas
And I suppose they should change the law so that you can drive with 1,5 Permille alcohol in your blood?
>>56790614
Most shootings are stopped by citizens, that's why gunmen target schools now
January 11, 2014
After being refused entry to the strip club for belligerent behavior and racist comments earlier in the night, Thomas Elliott Hjelmeland returned carrying a handgun and wearing a Halloween mask. As soon as he entered the club, Hjelmeland opened fire, striking bouncer Brian Rizzo, a patron, and a waitress. Another bouncer, Jonathan Baer drew his concealed handgun and shot Hjelmeland, killing him.
Following the attack Baer posted to Facebook: “I did what I felt was right to stop the shooter…I carry every day, and will continue to, and will so with the hope that I will never have to pull it out again.”
>>56788828
Don't take what an ambassador has to say.
The only things that will ever come out of their mouth do not represent what French people think but is just there to further advance their agenda and carreer.
>>56788493
>‘Only in the Movies’ Can Someone Use a Gun to Defend Himself
This does not compute.
>>56788493
>only in the movies someone is using his gun to defend himself.
Yeah because all those self defense cases in America are in the movies.
Because, God forbid, I should ever have to actually use this pistol in my desk to defend myself, it is only in the movies.
Fucking Frenchie surrendering faggot. Kill yourself (but by terrorist, since you can't own your own gun)
>>56790614
It is not just mass shooters, but home invasions, car jackings and armed robbery in a place of business.
>>56790614
Well, technically 0 to a handful because they are shot before they kill anybody so they are never classified as a mass or rampage shooter.
>>56788493
>2015
>not using your gun to shoot everyone around you and hide under their bodies
>>56790671
>"Mr Trump, I didn't do anything wrong"
Honestly, that's pretty funny
>>56790646
No I didn't you dickhead. I clearly stated most bars, nightclubs, etc have a strict no carry policy. In most states, if the establishment has 51% of sales resulting from alcohol purchases, CC is restricted.
What a stupid fuck this guy is lol.
First he responses to a 7+ month old tweet raging like a faggot, and here is still crying.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-outside-draw-muhammad-contest-texas-n352996
I hope Trump brings up the countless times citizens in this country defended themselves with a gun from shitskins.
Fucking worthless cuċk this guy is.
>>56790614
we've only had like 4-5 legit terror attacks since 9/11 that weren't foiled by the FBI beforehand, and pretty much all of them short of boston bombing were stopped immediately
the only way to do a terror attack in USA is with explosives tbqh, if you open fire with a gun you will get shot
>>56790614
well in america, not many/none, mainly because rampage shooters are pussies who shoot ppl in "gun free zones".
>>56789257
Niggers. They can't stop shooting each other so we all suffer
>>56791090
He asked for how many rampage shootings has been stopped, not terror attacks.
>>56788493
Gun>white flag
>>56790576
Shut it Sven. Your home is about to be stolen thanks to no gunz retardation.
>>56791227
Right and how many mass shootings have you had this year alone? Hell you had one just the other day did you not?
>>56791202
The problem is, most are stopped, and if they're stopped , it's not a "mass shooting". so you can't really record what could have happened and didn't happen
>>56788493
Thank God they have flowers
>>56791202
oh, woops
yes, it's extremely common. IIRC civilians have a much, much lower collateral damage rate than cops with regards to stopping rampage shooters too.
10 examples
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Shot-in-the-Chest-Inside-West-Philly-Barbershop-297176271.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/26/official-suspect-in-deadly-hospital-shooting-had-lengthy-history-gun-arrests/
http://citizensvoice.com/news/police-plymouth-homicide-suspect-shot-by-patron-1.1370815
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/17251517/churchgoers-subdue-gunman-at-spartanburg-church
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2054129059072688443
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/three-dead-shooting-winnemucca-bar
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/us/12brfs-GUNMANKILLED_BRF.html?fta=y&pagewanted=print&_r=1&
http://articles.philly.com/1998-04-26/news/25765866_1_andrew-wurst-john-gillette-science-teacher
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,136736,00.html
also the FBI released a bunch of statistics a while back, guns stop over 600 rapes a day or something, mostly just from brandishing them
>>56791342
Then what do you call it then, does it go from "mass shooting" to "public shooting" when it's stopped?
>>56791401
It's called "stop being such a fucking smart ass and accept the facts that if everyone in that theater had a pistol 120 of them wouldn't have died, you fucking faggot" shooting.
Only a stupid fucking idiot would argue that having a government that actively keeps you completely defenseless is a good thing.
Gun Free Zones are a fucking death trap.
Eat shit.
>>56791401
I guess. attempted shooting? 1 wounded, then gunman killed:
A 79-year-old man entered an AT&T store in New York Mills, New York carrying a .357 magnum revolver in his hand and a list of employees he planned to kill in his pocket. Hearing the hand cannon go off, Donald J. Moore drew his own personal weapon and killed the gunman before he could complete his plan. One employee was wounded in the shooting.
>>56788493
>only in the movies
>not in the theater hall
Doesn't Trump know that theaters are for sabres or epees? Learn French etiquette cowboy!
>>56790803
I'm asking for actual numbers, not some unsourced anecdote
>>56790874
But I wasn't asking about those
>>56790896
That's actually a good argument. But if someone just starts firing wildly, especially automatic into a packed crowd like in paris they will get at least a full mag (~30 rounds) out before someone has shot them.
>>56791529
sacre bleu ! What movies was this! Sounds like an action film! :^)
>>56791385
Jesus, do you guys seriously not have any actual numbers behind whatever side of this you're arguing?
>>56791275
I hope someone has the infographs to shut this retarded eurofag up
In any case only about 30,000 people die in the US per annum due to guns, while guns are used in self-defense at least 300,000 times a year, up to 1 million
Mass shootings are numerically irrelevant and the media tries to focus exclusively on shootings committed by white and "White" men like the Supreme Gentleman to create a narrative while ignoring the atheist nigger shooter and the nigger who shot up the television work station because he was a faggot because the MSM is all about sensationalization and creating a narrative, which you should realize considering your entire country's media is devoted to convincing your retarded people that endless immigration is a good thing and Swedish girls should take as much black dick as possible
You're a fucking idiot and your country is a joke
>>56791489
>It's called "stop being such a fucking smart ass and accept the facts that if everyone in that theater had a pistol 120 of them wouldn't have died, you fucking faggot" shooting.
even bill maher admitted this
this is a guy who used to be the definition of a leftist and even he's starting to agree with many of the right's policies
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/11/21/bill-maher-terror-attacks-wouldnt-armed-least-give-citizens-chance/
>>56791627
>Jesus, do you guys seriously not have any actual numbers behind whatever side of this you're arguing?
why do I need numbers? I don't even need to argue, it's my constitutional right to carry a firearm.
>>56791627
>durr it doesn't work and it never happens unless you show me a pie graph
>>56791550
>I'm asking for actual numbers, not some unsourced anecdote
and I'm telling you that it's impossible to accurately record what didn't happen, Achmed
>>56788493
Figures a French pussy like him would just lay down and die for his Muslim masters, the fucking traitor.
>>56791673
You know, the funny thing is, I semi-cringed, every single time Trump wanted to bring this up, but now some french faggot is calling it a "movie stunt" and unreal, etc and it really pisses me off cause it isn't.
It only makes me agree with Trump unabashedly now instead of just kinda sorta.
Fuck these people for real.
>>56788493
that explains world war 2 for the french
>>56788493
It's also only in movies and on TV that the police can solve every crime. Lets do away with them.
>>56791673
>I don't even need to argue
Then why do you have a collection of news article links that you're ready to post at any time?
>>56791675
>it doesn't work
I know this is hard for people to /pol/ to grasp, but I'm just genuinely interested in the actual numbers. I'm not arguing for one side or the other, I'm not pushing an agenda.
>>56791687
and I said that's a good argument, but not for ALL cases.
>>56791017
>Puff Daddy goes into a night club.
>Shoots the fucker up.
>Wins an award.
>>56791489
>accept the facts that if everyone in that theater had a pistol 120 of them wouldn't have died, you fucking faggot
But that's where you are a wrong you fucking faggot, from what I can gather a AK47 can fire 10 rounds per second and one magazine holds 30 rounds. So lets say that every second bullet hits a different target that means 15 dead on one magazine, how many gunmen where there now in the theatre, 2? 3? Lets say 3, so that means 45 dead or wounded on one magazine.
And lets say it takes them 6 seconds to reload their AK47s, now you might think that during the six seconds for some brave souls in the audience can pull out their guns and fire on terrorists. Well no you are wrong again because the panic that will ensure will make it hard for them to pull out their guns, assuming their brains can even registers what has happened in time. Even if they did pull out their guns who said they will be able to get a clear shoot?
So six second passes and the AK's are reloaded. So the terrorists once again fires their entire magazine into the crowd, another 45 dead.
You see where I'm getting with this?
>Only a stupid fucking idiot would argue that having a government that actively keeps you completely defenseless is a good thing.
Only a stupid fucking idiot would argue that having a gun would fix everything. Only a stupid fucking retarded idiot would answer "GUNS ARE THE SOLUTIONS" to everything.
>Eat shit.
Go drink horse piss.
>>56791529
And when you have 5 wounded, 2 dead and then the gunman killed?
>>56788493
>"So I am a fighter and I am a diplomat"
What kind of fighting has he ever done? Waving the white flag doesn't count.
>>56791935
Sweden really thinks a low IQ Muslim shit skin savage can stand up to armed Americans.
>>56790874
Last year I was watching TV in my basement. My girlfriend and her friends were on a girls trip so me an the dog were hanging out . Two teenage nignogs broke in through a bedroom window. They had quietly ransacked the upstairs bedrooms and had started down stairs. My dog noticed first of course ran torwards them as I retrieved my retrieved my pistol the first nigger shot my dog with a sawed off .22rifle . I shot back and the last one down the steps turned and ran the first one tried to shoot back but was wounded . When all was said and done it took 10 minutes before cops showed up. The two little little wannabe gangstas were 17 and 18 years old. The 18 year old was picked up after a few days on the lamb but the 17 year old rides a wheelchair with a colostomy bag in his lap. I highly recommend the Walther PPQM2 in 45ACP.
>My dog lived by the way.
>>56788988
>I wonder if his private security has guns.
Yes, but they are just there to film a movie. Only in movies can a gun stop a bad guy.
>>56791935
If you were at my house I could end this argument with a gun right fucking now. :^)
Violence solves everything, literally everything.
Something the French haven't learned yet seemingly.
>>56791885
We know what you're doing.
>huehuehueheuhe, I'll just ignore all these links to people who defended themselves and demand numbers huehukekeekee
Fuck you, I hope no numbers are posted.
It doesn't need defending.
It works.
It's a proven solution.
Gun Free Zones get fucking shot to shit for a reason. It's our right to self-defense. Do I really need to go full caps lock and spam SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED? Cause I'll do it.
>>56791935
Go prep the bull Sven...
>>56791935
By the way this Swedish faggot and the other Swedish faggot are ISIS Muslims arguing to make sure the rest of us are unarmed when they attack.
Dö din lilla horunge, gå och knulla din bög pappa.
>>56791275
denmark has still had more percapita :^)
>>56791935
>looks at flag
>stops reading
>>56792116
>I know this is hard for people to /pol/ to grasp, but I'm just genuinely interested in the actual numbers. I'm not arguing for one side or the other, I'm not pushing an agenda.
>>56788493
Explains why they didn't use guns in WW2 and surrendered instead.
>You can't defeat your enemy with war, that is only in books.
>France AMB pretty much saying MARTYRS NEVER DIE
You're boned france
>>56792038
Well your towers certainly weren't able to stand up to them.
>>56792116
And violence breeds more violence as the saying goes, if I was in your house I could end the argument without a gun.
>>56792136
And who the fuck asked you anything Gypsy scum?
>>56792152
Gå och ruttna I Djävulens brinnande urinrör din negerknullade apjävel.
>>56791375
I remember that video Spain, you're not alone.
http://youtu.be/xkM-SDNoI_8
Of course the best thing that can happen during a gun attack is to kill the attackers as soon as possible.
Waiting an hour for the police to show up is exactly what the attackers are expecting and preparing for.
Of course the ambassador had no idea what he was talking about and should have just stayed out of it.
Was this guy alive during WW2, by chance?
>>56788961
Oh double insult at the same time, noice.
>>56791935
the eternal(soon to be extinct) Swede, ladies and gentlefags
>>56790576
If there's 70+ people in the concert hall, the 2-3 gunmen aren't going to be able to take them all down that fast even if they were somehow invincible. It was already confirmed that a large number of the victims laid down and played dead which allowed the shooters to kill them and even reload their guns with ease. If you seriously think a handful of properly trained civilians within the crowd all acting simultaneously wouldn't have been able to stop the few untrained terrorists, then you are retarded.
>>56792385
>Well your towers certainly weren't able to stand up to them.
Before the 9/11 attacks planes were a gun free zone.
After the 9/11 attacks planes were unable to resume flights because they could not find enough armed police to put on the.......
No many pilots are armed....
WASHINGTON — More than one in 10 of the nation's airline pilots are cleared to carry a handgun while flying, and the number will continue to grow, according to a Transportation Security Administration projection.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-03-31-armed-pilots_N.htm
Of course, Gun Free Zones are a giant disaster....
>>56789339
It is here in Louisiana
>>56788815
"We have too much gun control" is not really a good argument against the effectiveness of gun control
Obviously the shooters didn't give much of a fuck about the no-CC policy
>>56791942
Shut the fuck up, we could obliterate your non-existing country within minutes.
Please speak to countries of your rank.
Merci.
>>56792631
Go fuck yourself with the union jack in your urethra Anglo mongrel.
>>56792634
It all depends on the weapons, clearing a crowd is a lot easier with a automatic rifle then what it is with a gun.
And if you seriously think that by the time the trained civilians aren't hurt or dead by the time their minds has figured out and processed just what has happened and that the terrorists aren't trained then you are retarded, what makes you think they can pull off something like this if they aren't trained?
>>56792385
Knulla din mamma Malmström i röven din jävla tattare och gå och sug arab kuk efteråt Ahmed.
>>56792385
Don't you have a prayer rug to purchase in order to prepare for your eminent conversion to Islam? Fuck off die reddit schmuck!
>>56792765
*effectiveness of carrying guns
FTFM
>>56788493
>only in the movies someone is using his gun to defend himself
then why do cops and soldiers have guns??
>>56788493
>Gerard Araud defended a tweet he had posted in response to Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump immediately following the terror attacks in Paris this month
But that's a fucking lie. The tweet was 10months old. I don't even like Trump but that level of fake outrage is bullshit.
Stop shitposting about the US and fix your shit, faggot
>>56792715
The terrorists didn't even use guns, they used knifes. Fucking utility knives, not bombs or guns but a god damn fucking knife.
Armed civilians also have the surprise element to them. Criminals simply don't know from where the reaction will come in a society without gun control. When the police comes, it's too obvious and it ends with hostage situations and/or shootouts.
There was also a research that stated that criminals preferred being confronted by the police rather than civilians, because the latter usually will kill them, while if they surrender the police will only detain them.
>>56792809
Pedro is right tho
Most of our ambassadors are literal fags
>>56788493
France just assures it won't suddenly stop surrendering.
Good day to be muhajid.
>>56790576
Read that in Toki Wartooths voice.
>>56788493
>It is only in the movies someone is using his gun to defend himself.
Better surrender.
France, once again, confirm themselves for being a bunch of stupid fucks.
>>56792935
Trump made comments in public saying that the concert massacre could've been stopped if some of the concertgoers were armed though, which is what prompted the ambassador's response. and of course Trump's right. Savage mudslimes are far from invincible - they are stupid, and weak. Easy to kill.
>>56793098
#NotInMyName
>>56792839
>He disagrees with me
>HE OBVIOUSLY MUST BE FROM REDDIT
Fuck off, go burn in a fire and die you stormfront white nigger retard.
>>56788493
In France it is true, only in the movies are guns used to defend yourself. Because guns are illegal there.
>>56788493
right, because we know those sand nigger ISIS terrorists obtained automatic assault rifles legally. Fuck Jews.
>>56793166
ha, this nigger thinks strormfront is an insult
>>56793165
Yeah sorry for that generalization mate. Your ambassador is dumb as a fucking rock.
>>56792811
any excuse you can make to make sure only sand niggers have guns
bravo
>>56793166
>Fuck off, go burn in a fire and die you stormfront white nigger retard.
Calm down. Maybe someday you will be allowed to have a gun too.
>>56788828
The Aurora shooting happened in a no gun zone, so did every fucking school and university shooting
Pulling quotes about gun owners rebuking home invaders or thieves with firearms is nitpicking
It's not supposed to replace police work or education either
Gun ownership is nice, but gun carrying for defense purpose is a deterrent at the very best and a bandaid on a prosthetic leg at worst, that doesn't stop perps either dumb enough or under influence
It does nothing to solve the root cause of nogs nogging
Ardent open carry defenders do more to damage its credibility, literal useful idiots for gun grabbers
>>56793244
Actually maybe the rifles were acquired legally, originally.
Poorly demilitarized rifle on some random website from the balkans then re-militarized at home.
That being said that doesn't explain the huge amount of ammo these motherfuckers had.
>>56793310
the france posted and 4chan was ruined foerver
>someone comes into a theater and starts shooting, what is an armed Samaritan supposed to do in that situation? I don't get it
Europe's problem is they've been disarmed for so long, their minds cannot process the idea of someone fighting back to protect themselves and others. Apparently that's a role that only the state can provide via cops who, as we've seen with the Paris attacks, are so confident and brave with their firearms that they'll just stand 500m away from the ongoing massacre, discussing what the fuck they should do on their radios.
>>56792715
Everyone hates this picture, never did get why because it's absolutely true.
>>56790274
Thats awful. Two weeks? Its five minutes in AZ.
>>56793261
His attitude is typical of French hypocrisy. France is a country protecting criminals and acting in their interests. I'm not surprised this guys advocate against something that could harm his criminals.
Meanwhile weapon shops saw huge increases in demand for weapons and all after the paris attacks.
It's so easy with socialists nowadays, just saying the truth is enough to make them look like fools.
Delusional, lying frog faggot.
>>56793292
First of all hunting rifles are legal in this country
Secondly why would I want a gun?
>>56793288
And you are any better? With any excuse for everyone to have a gun
Fucking bravo, the next shooting rampage will become so much easier if I can just buy a gun in a story down the block .
>>56788493
>It is only in the movies someone is using his gun to defend himself.”
C U C K
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C
K
>>56790373
That's because living in america is like being in movies. Let us make america great again!
>>56788493
Who is this flying fucker?
>>56792809
With what?
With guns?
But they're just movie props!
>>56793492
>Secondly why would I want a gun?
You'll ask again when Mohamed and his friends are cold and trying to force your door.
>>56792898
Statist keks think operating a firearm is a magic skill that can only be unlocked when wearing a uniform.
>>56789040
Perfect post.
But will ameritards on /pol/ get it? Not likely.
>>56791935
This is so wrong on so many levels.
The crowd could easily overpower 3 guys with AK unarmed with few casualties. That does not happen in the real world because people have a weak sense of collective and are afraid to die. With and armed crowd this kind of stunt would be impossible to pull, just no way for 3 guys to cover all of the angles.
ofc I am not advocating for guns in a metal concert, but third world shitholes with a large mudslime population should really have a heavily armed security detail on site.
In the street cafes though, armed civilians could have saved many lives there.
In the end you need to realise that any government prioritise power and control, they don't give a shit if their constituents die. Therefore there will always be an impetus from the people in power to keep an unarmed population that way.
>>56793534
Your ambassador to us
>>56790373
what about theaters though
>>56789633
Perhaps not, but they would have had a chance. A tiny sliver of a chance is better than none, and if you don't think it is then you value your life considerably less than most people do.
>>56793492
>First of all hunting rifles are legal in this country
:)
>Secondly why would I want a gun?
We just buy guns for fun here. A few weeks ago I was trimming tree branches with my shotgun.
>>56793492
Guns are fun. Why wouldn't you want a gun?
>>56793558
I got my fists and I got my legs.
I got plenty of household items that can be used as a weapon.
>>56793572
>but third world shitholes with a large mudslime population should really have a heavily armed security detail on site
Did you just call France a third world shit hole?
>>56791385
Strong work, anon. I work in LA this month and am surrounded by severely liberal people. Although the are relatively conservative for this area. Refreshing to see Americans protecting each other.
>>56789129
Common law in 99.99% of American jurisdictions disagrees with you.
>>56793492
>>56793166
>>56792983
>>56792811
>>56792385
>>56791935
MEN VAD FAN ÄR DITT PROBLEM DIN LILLA HORUNGE?
You can't sit and fucking theorycraft with numbers how a shootout will turn out and use that as an argument that if civilians are armed with guns it wouldn't have helped anyways, that's not how reality works.
A single civilian in the crowd in the Bataclavan with a gun would've ended the terrorists, without a doubt.
>>56793696
>I got my fists and I got my legs.
>I got plenty of household items that can be used as a weapon.
HAHAHAH men lägg ner du måste väl ändå trolla? Herregud, om du inte trollar så är du fan en jävla cùck.
>>56793696
Well good luck then.
>Muzzies try to shoot up a Texas gathering because they blasphemed their holy Goatfucker
>Get absolutely ventilated
>Muzzies try to shoot up a French newspaper because they blasphemed their holy Goatfucker
>Succeed
You could learn from us, baguettes
>>56793696
visions of anon fighting off wave after wave of mudslimes armed with a mop and feather duster
>>56793696
I bet you know kung fu as well
>>56793696
Oh come on. They have thousands of citizens that are working tirelessly to destroy the state. Any white country with 10%+ muslim population is as doomed as Sarnath. Might as well call it now.
>>56793741
>that's not how reality works.
Tell that to the guys I'm arguing with, they don't seem to have a solid grasp on how reality works either.
>A single civilian in the crowd in the Bataclavan with a gun would've ended the terrorists, without a doubt.
And from the looks of it neither do you din jävla idiot. Hur i helvete ska en människa med en pistol ta död på tre människor under oddsen att han själv inte är för skadad för att göra det? Hur i helvete ska man kunna göra det när personen kan vara i stor chock över hela saken.
>>56793803
Killing brown people is too racist for Europe.
>>56791935
Even in the most extreme circumstance, I would prefer innocent persons to have the most effective means available to themselves for defence. Only those in the moment can decide what to do--should we, ahead of time, deprive them of choices without their perspective?
>>56791935
Haha all bullets hitting? Shit they got aim bots now?
>>56793940
There is literally nothing wrong with killing brown people
>>56793754
>så är du fan en jävla cùck
>För att jag väljer att slås utan vapen
Du är en konstig en.
>>56793847
Nope, but Tibia, knee, crouch and jaw is a weak spot to everyone.
>>56793811
Do you also have visions of Anon shooting down wave after wave of mudslimes?
>>56793310
>It does nothing to solve the root cause of nogs nogging
Actually it does. It's just that liberals think the root cause of noggs nogging is "poverty" or "the legacy of slavery" or even "white privilege," all of which are total bullshit.
The real root cause of noggs nogging is "because it gets them attention." Making the media stop stirring shit up for their own profit is the only way to end it, and the only way that will happen is to make it more dangerous than profitable.
This is what private gun ownership is, in fact, doing in the USA, as can be seen by the fact that shootings keep taking place in the gun-free zones the media tries to create and spread. Eventually it will get so bad that the media will face a stark choice: quit stirring up shit with lies, or die drowning in the very shit they stirred up.
>>56790109
>French
> tumblr
why am I not surprised
>>56790576
Not all civilians freeze up with fear and immediately act like babbling idiots? Are you dumb or just a coward?
>>56793967
Try to tell that to the average European who still dreams about a pet nigger coming over and fulfilling multiculture by making ethnic food.
>>56793754
>är du fan en jävla cùck.
I don't know what this says, but it looks right.
>>56788493
>"Guns won't defend you!"
>but police guns will
I refuse to believe all Europeans are this fucking retarded.
>>56793952
And I agree, but my problem comes from the fact that everyone seems to think that guns are the end all be all solutions to it. Nobody seems to even think of the possibility that it can just makes the shootings easier and that there is a chance that it won't make a difference.
Do we really want to make the wrong decision on this one? Do we really want to make it easier for Abdual and Jamal to get weapons so that attacks like these are easier to carry out?
>>56793966
You ever been to a concert? It's a tight place with a lot of people, aim for the body and all the bullets are bound to hit.
>n-n-no w-we can't arm our civilians b-because..
>b-because reasons!
Pathetic.
>terrorists with guns are LITERALLY invincible
>>56788978
Unfortunately for the French..
This isn't WW2. They're not at war with a "sporting" enemy, who just wants their industrial base.
They're at war with nations of uncivilized rapists, enemies of logic, and technology. Being a surrender monkey only works if the other side doesn't want to cut your head off and gang-rape your wife and children. It's sad that Europeans are only just waking up to that.
>>56794099
Are you dumb or just have a poor grasp of how humans react in various situations?
>>56794126
He is telling me that I'm a kek because I would prefer hand to hand combat over guns.
I don't get it myself
>>56794162
>against the law to have guns
>criminals by definition break the law
>law abiding citizens by definition do not
Guns in the hands of the wrong people and only the wrong people, guaranteed.
Here's an easy screening;
"Do you believe in the teachings of the Prophet Muhammand?"
Depending on their answer, they will be able to buy a gun.
>>56794033
>Do you also have visions of Anon shooting down wave after wave of mudslimes?
you moran, anon is you in this instance
so of course not, you mentioned household items, not guns
>>56794162
>And I agree, but my problem comes from the fact that everyone seems to think that guns are the end all be all solutions to it. Nobody seems to even think of the possibility that it can just makes the shootings easier and that there is a chance that it won't make a difference.
but aren't these situations solved by police with guns?
You're basically saying, you need guns to solve the situation, but it's better to wait until the police arrive and everyone is already dead
>>56788493
Then what did the police do when they arrived -- subdue the terrorists with French logic?
>Angered by Trump posting an opinion on gun control.
>Not angered by the thousands of his own countrymen sucking Muslim cock on social media before the bodies were even cold.
Wow, the French really are fags.
>>56789833
>that guy who lives in a state where you need any license to buy a gun
Who /Florida/ here?
>>56793696
>>56793894
>>56794033
>>56794162
>>56794241
You seem to think you know a lot.
Have you ever fired a gun before???
>>56793464
where is his french flag? i thought they were standard issue for their police. being reduced to pantomiming it with his hands is just shameful for the republic.
Amerifats ruin everything with insane amounts of samefagging, posting the exact same post that tens of their burger brethren have posted
The simple fact is it doesn't matter if you have a handgun, if 5 sandniggers with ak47 take you by surprise during the middle of a concert you are not going to turn around and headshot all 5 of them
>>56794359
/k/ will hate me for not knowing, but what gun is that anon? Is that a mini-14?
>>56788493
Thus the baguettes have spoken, clearly they learned nothing after Paris, When part 2 happens i'm gonna just sit back, enjoy the popcorn and make fun of the frenchies and their victim complex since they refuse to take precautions and save themselves.
You know the best part about it, when it happens again everyone on here will automatically rush to these retards collective defenses, considering all they've done since WWII is Beg for help on things and then proceed to be irrelevant fools mad as shit at us when we bail their asses out for the umpteenth time.
>>56789833
>that Alaskan feel when totally unrestricted, legal weed, state privacy clause
This is the best state in the Union.
>>56793666
Trips
>>56794132
police isnt as shitty as yours in other places of the world, amerifat
>>56794471
Just a plain stainless mini-14
>>56794359
SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED!!
>>56794518
Your right cartelfag, they are worse, they actively do not arm themselves and need others to bail them out when they have a problem, do you remember the train incident from earlier this year for example?
>>56789954
That's your government's fault they should of never taken in the mudslimes. They love this attitude and they want it to continue until you fully submit to their peverse political agenda. Soon France won't even respond to terrorist attacks "THERE IS JUST NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP IT WE HAVE TO STOP BEING MEAN TO MUSLIMS"
>>56794263
And what do you do when the shooter is a White who is not muslim?
>>56794277
When you put it like that, yeah that is what I'm saying. What we have here is a quality or quantity thing, do we want our shootings to be high in numbers but they happen rarely (like in France) or do we want a low body count but a very frequent happening (like in USA).
I would rather have the former then the later.
>>56794359
Yes, some rifle used during the Yugoslavian Wars that my dads friend had.
>>56794445
Nope, but if 15/200 people had guns, they could have easily killed all five of the nasty Terries. Such a small fraction could make a huge difference, but it doesn't matter. Just wait until these morons try this shit on American soil and get shot to death by some fat, retired vet with a glock. Europe can keep cowering and telling themselves that they're better and smarter than us for depriving their citizens of arms.
>>56788493
DUDE CROISSANTS LMAO?
>>56794477
There is no excuse for this mindset after Charlie Hebdo. but after the Bataclan massacre, I won't feel sorry for France the next time. because it's their fault now. They're asking for it and they're allowing it. I can't feel bad for them if they WANT to die.
>>56788493
what a fagguette
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-westgate-interpol-chief-ponders-armed-citizenry/story?id=20637341
The chief of Interpol himself has said before that the only way to neutralise soft-target (Malls/Concerts/etc) terror attacks like what happened in Westgate Kenya and by similarity Paris, is to either wall off these places and regularly patrol with armed forces on the street.
OR
Armed the citizenry.
>>56794429
>French
>Republic
>>56788493
>Guns only kill people in the movies
>Ban guns
>>56794636
The best part is somehow, in some twisted ass way, they will blame us for them not taking care of themselves.
honestly the best solution for humanity is simply kill everyone off in nuclear hellfire and let the earth start again, there is literally no justification for humanity to continue existing.
>can't prevent terrorists from getting automatic weapons and slaughtering people
>defends gun laws anyway
I'm starting to remember why we make fun of the French
>>56794624
We have a lot of shootings in the U.S. because we have a massive population filled to the brim with low I.Q. minorities. Sweden wouldn't be anything like the U.S. even with the same amount of guns. Well, I think that might have been the case before, but you morons changed 30% of your population into non-swedes. You're fucked, I'm just not sure how badly.
>>56792809
Gl taking on anyone after the EU dies and papa USA abandons your caliphate.
>>56788493
If you can't defend yourself with your hands, then are hands guns?
>>56788815
That French dude who wrote the tweet and anyone else (including you) who doesn't agree with Trump's tweet are completely missing the point.
The point isn't that someone would have stopped the shooters if they had guns.
The point is that making more laws to restrict guns or even outright banning them won't stop criminals from obtaining guns or committing crime/violence.
What's the point? Doing so only restricts people who abide by laws.
Having the option to defend yourself is better than just accepting death.
>Problem:
Too many illegal guns and legal muslims.
>Solution:
Remove legal guns and import illegal muslims.
It's like buying rope as prescription for depression.
>>56794793
But your low I.Q. minorities aren't the ones who goes to public places and open fire.
>>56794518
Coming from a country where the police are the criminals, your comment means nearly nothing.
>>56788815
I can carry in any establishment in ohio that serves alcohol as long as it isn't posted. Which it isn't in most places.
>>56792742
She was probably trying to rob him and just lucked out by stopping a mass shooting.
>>56794625
I don't know if Americans do, but Europeans don't have telepathic communication, so it will be a bit difficult for all 15 armed citizens to engage the terrorists at once, in a coordinated matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWvyFA3NtfQ
>stundents' reaction to the massacre is to party up, sing songs and smoke pot
are the french finished?
>>56794881
They actually are? The majority of gun murders in this country are gang-related shootings committed by blacks. The rare psycho shooter just gets media attention because our traitor news organizations want to encourage death and destruction to push their laws on us.
>>56794754
>let the earth start again
Dont you get it? Whether or not a species can overcome their lesser races is the great filter. This is what prevents intelligent civilizations from colonizing space. There will always be subspecies with varying degrees of intelligence trying to claim they're equal to the rest just because they look somewhat similar.
If there is any civilization out there roaming the galaxy, they did it basically by being nazis and telling the lesser races to fuck off
>>56788815
>the idea the 2nd amendment would have stopped the gunmen is retarded
>most establishments like the theatre prohibit carrying weapons
>It's essentially saying school shootings can't happen in America because of the 2nd Amendment
carrying guns won't stop criminals hurr durr, just look at all these places where guns aren't allowed and most shootings happpen
american logic: the post
>>56788493
>the French are this delusional
Jesus christ that's sad.
>>56794477
>>56794754
>the baguettes
>an irrelevant faggot ambassador
We're a lot denouncing this shit. One guy doesn't speak for 65 millions of French, even less when there is a huge rupture between power/institutions and the french people. The reality is those attacks made people go to weapon dealers to get a gun permit, FN is rising in polls.
You're terribly wrong if you confuse the people of France and its corrupted political class.
We won't blame anybody except ourselves. Sorry for having been a mostly peaceful society where we didn't need to fear niggers shooting at us at every corner so we didn't need weapons. It has now changed, unfortunately. If you rejoice because peace has been broken, you're just a fucking asshole.
In the end, you shouldn't generalize everybody because it makes you look like a fool.
>>56795008
Is gang violence usually not limited to just that, gang violence. No gang ever went to a cinema or a school and decided to shoot people, as far as I know anyway.
>>56794992
You can't be reasoned with. You'll find literally any excuse to believe that only the police and terrorists should have guns. 15 people don't have to make a coordinated attack to kill 5 shooters. All they have to do is hit one in a vital area one time. That goes without saying though, you already know that. You're just intentionally ignoring reality because it doesn't fit your narrative. Don't you have 25,000 mu-err, "Refugees" to import, Canada?
>>56789348
Sort of curious too.
Surely the country the minie ball came from would have some awesome rifles to export.
>>56788493
I hope people send photos of Nazis marching in Paris to every french politician with this quote
>>56795045
Anon the reason i'm denouncing you lot are because of the fact that theres no real signs other then hearsay from /pol/ that things are different.
This IS your official ambassador, this is how your country officially stands according to the foreign countries of the world.
>>56793310
>>56795116
Gang members do this thing called a "drive-by", where they pull up on the street and just spray bullets everywhere even remotely near their targets. This results in a lot of random casualties that have nothing to do with the gangs. They may not go into theatres, but it doesn't matter. In the total, just as many people die and it is the sole reason that our violence stats look so bad. I mean, I don't know what you want from me. The worst massacre by a white person in 30 years happened in your area of the world, in Norway. Why didn't Norwegian gun laws save them from that evil white man?
>>56795141
>all you have to do to kill 5 terrorists is to hit one in a vital area
k
and when the other 4 shooters begin firing indiscriminately will the guns deflect the bullets?
