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Can somebody explain to me how Trump might ruin the country?
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Can somebody explain to me how Trump might ruin the country?
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He wants to deport the REAL AMERICANS, which are the mexicans. Go back to europe,white boi.

He's xenophobic racist,he got his knowledge of politics from wrestling,he went bankrupt so many times hes spoiled rich boy.
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He's MEAN and RACIST and hurts my feelings!
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Trump wants to focus on the economy since it's what he's good at, and he WILL be a great President in that regard. He doesn't care about immigrants. He's just telling his constituents what he thinks they want to hear.

I'm cool with it. Yes, build the wall.
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he said mean things on the tv
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He's an arrogant, materialistic, white, straight male whose vaguely Christian, loves capitalism, has a pragmatist bent, is brutally honest, beholden to no one, and doesn't give two shits about anybody's feelings. In a word, he's American, and liberals hate and fear that.

I read something the other day of some liberal news site saying Trump was an embarrassment to the country because "he represents a past we have moved on from".

Basically Trump is either the death throes or revival of America as a white-cis-hetero-patriarchal-conservative-classical liberal-etc country, and that threatens the liberal plan of turning it into a multiethnic socialist shit hole.
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>>56759297
>>56759354
>>56759297

K. Not what I'm looking for.
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>>56759559
There really isn't much more to it than that. The people saying Trump will ruin the country are basically just mad that "in this day and age" someone who acts and thinks like him could possibly become popular.
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he's a class traitor billionaire so he has to get shut down
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>>56759508
Tell me more of this liberal plan
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He can't afford to hence he won't
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>>56759644
I'm not asking what peoples knee jerk reactions are. I'm asking for a more complicated answer involving how his policies are actually going to harm the people.
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>>56759829
Or speculation as to what he might ACTUALLY do
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>>56759101
Hillary wants to ban video games. Video games or Mexicans?

I'll take vidya ya commie jew
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>>56759709
Its not a plan in a conspiracy sense, its pure naivety coupled with guilt. The modern generation is completely ignorant and too compassionate, and this bears out on every single issue. They can see no wrong, except in their own culture and ancestors.
>>56759829
And what I'm saying is, that there is no such answer. His policies are solid, and pretty moderate all things considered.
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>>56759902
He wants to build a wall, deport the illegals, jump start the economy, and restore America to being a feared and respected superpower, while also decreasing our military adventurism and stabilizing relations with Russia. His focus is the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.

Those are his policies. That is what he intends to do if put into office.
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>>56758896
Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will be fine. if not he can move anywhere in the world.
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>>56759942
that isn't blackface, it's ganguro
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>>56760168
that sounds pretty ok though
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>>56758896
He's going to make America too great
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>>56760443
I know.
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>>56758896
Militia, of course.

Where you been?
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>>56758896

He won't.

I think he's going to have some trouble with foreign policy, but it's not like Obongo's been a shining beacon of solidarity and we're not gone yet, so Trump's "Fuck Off, Me Alpha" approach would probably still be an improvement.

I'd be more worried if Trump got in, but then the Senate ended up controlled by Dems; NOTHING would get done, it'd be nothing but filibusters for the whole goddamn term.

I really want to see all three levels of our government party-aligned so things actually happen. If they royally fuck it up then we'll know better, if not then the stuff that needed to get done actually got done.
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>>56759829
nothing, america wins, businesses come back, rapists deported.
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He will make things worse for all the people that are making things worse for actual U.S. citizens.
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By making it great again he will destroy the big government crony capitalist machine
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>>56760912
How so?
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People calling Trump racist are retarded liberal faggots. Not once does he say he hates Mexicans or any race. Listen to his speeches, hell, listen to the out of context slander reports. Never does he say racist shit. He says facts that people don't want to hear.
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>>56758896
I'll explain it. He'll put America and Americans first instead of lobbyists and shitty ideology, thus he will ruin the country for the shitheads that have been using it as their playground for 30-40 years.

Thus, America as we know it will be "ruined", and we can go back to being the kind of America that kicks ass, makes money, and lets you go to work and come home to a hot meal and respectful, smart children.
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>>56762096

You really didn't explain anything.
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>>56761880
Why is he wanted to repeat what happened in the early 1900s when mexicans were ilelgally deported from california and texas. You know mexicans living in california and texas where hunted down and killed by whites before the land was stolen by them and there were driven to mexico?
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>>56762239
I won't go into detail for a Canadian, you have bigger problems up there. DUDE WEED
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>>56762251
So? Our land now. Always will be. These are facts.
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>>56762453
Oh man. That is some fucked up logic right there.
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>>56762396

It's not a problem. It generates tax revenue = stimulates the economy. There's an entire argument as to why it doesn't have a negative effect on the general population and how it actually benefits it.
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I can't think of many problems with his Tax Reform, 2nd Amendment, and other policies. I think he would be a solid president nationally. However, I worry about him in foreign affairs. I doubt he'll be able to get Mexico to build a wall, and his tough guy persona will rub other world leaders the wrong way. If he would chill out and quit saying so much dumb shit, I think he could take some left votes who don't want to vote for Shillary.
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>>56763303
Drugs in general aren't bad for the population. Criminalizing them is WAY more harmfull.
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>>56758896
He wants to try ideas that haven't been implemented before
That's scary for many people
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His stance on trade deals is the opposite of basically every mainstream economist.

http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel/poll-results?SurveyID=SV_0dfr9yjnDcLh17m
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>>56763540
He's not literally getting Mexico to build the wall. America will build it, but with money that would have gone to Mexico otherwise
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>>56758896
he might actually make america great again!!!

just think how detrimental that would be for progressivism
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>>56762453
>nearly 1 in 2 Americans rate it as positive
Waaaait a minute. Doesn't that mean the majority rate it as negative?
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>>56765379
Exactly.
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Does Trump want to build a literal wall, or does he mean patrolling the border with drones and arresting anyone caught crossing it? The drone idea seems cheaper and more effective to me.
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>>56765379
it means anywhere from 50% to maybe 20% support it

if it was over 50% they would have just said a majority, if it was under 20% they wouldn't have brought it up to begin with.
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>>56765505
>Does Trump want to build a literal wall, or does he mean patrolling the border with drones and arresting anyone caught crossing it?

why not both?
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>>56764651
No, he has clearly stated that he will make Mexico pay for a wall by increasing fees on Mexican CEO visas, NAFTA workers, and other border fees, as well as cutting foreign aid, UNTIL they pay for a wall to be built. I know they won't physically build a wall, I'm saying that Mexico won't pay for that shit.
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He's sounding pretty fascist these days desu
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>>56760024
>too compassionate

I don't think this is true. They're shitty narcissistic that just want to feel good about themselves and post it on facebook.
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>>56765634
they either pay for the wall directly, or accept the huge economic hit until the withheld aid payments equal the amount the wall would cost

we win either way, if you ask me.
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>>56761524
My daughter Ivanka, Ivanka has great tits I tell you, the best tits. I'm not saying this to be braggadocios, but I have good genes REALLY good genes and they make great tits. We're gonna build more tits and the tits are going to be BEAUTIFUL but only for people here legally. Her vagina will have a great big beautiful door that mexico will pay for and all legal Americans can come in. Look at this poll from the washington post, WASHINGTON POST, "Trump's daughter's tits are number one in Iowa right now."
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>>56765505
He keeps likening it to Israel, so we may end up copying what they do which is both
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>>56765505
He wants to build a literal wall. Drones are cheaper in the short run as we have surplus war materiel, but in the long run its not sustainable. A wall isn't that expensive anyway. I could build his wall for $3billion. But Mr. Trump wants a nice wall, so it would cost $7bilion. Which would last near into eternity.
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He won't desu m8. At least not economically. He might harm foreign relations. Only time will tell

The absolute most he could is not be able to remove all the loopholes in our tax system. So all of the tax cuts he's planning on implement would be for nothing. But that isn't the case.

Large corporations use loopholes to get away from paying millions of dollars in taxes. Before, instead of closing those loopholes, people just raised taxes. Then the corporations just used more loopholes. And they continued to raise taxes. They raised taxes until it's almost 40% federal taxes for the large corporations. So his plan is that if we can just go back to how everything was in the past, lower taxes and less loopholes. We can invite more businesses to come to America and set up shop.

I'm not sure if he did the math and if he'll actually get away with cutting off 15% by closing loopholes. But he's been doing the same exact thing in the past. So I'm sure he knows from proper experience

Also his proposed policy to get companies to stop outsourcing jobs and such seem really good too.
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>>56758896
Wisely, and boldly.
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>>56766076
Any Australian blood running through your veins? That's some top tier banter.
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>>56766722
The nominal corporate tax rate is 13%. If he's actually able to get his business tax plan pushed through, it would raise tax revenue. Likewise the richest tax bracket is nominally 22%, so a 25% tax bracket would be an increase. The problem I foresee is the same Reagan faced. When he implemented his tax cuts, every dollar in tax cuts was supposed to be mirrored with $2 in spending cuts, the spending cuts never happened thanks to congress.
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>>56766975
>Tax evasion magically disappears
It's a nice ideal but not realistic.
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>>56758896
Probably the biggest "argument" is that he'll start a bunch of international conflicts and create wars because he's such an egotist. Of course, none of the libtards who say this shit pay any attention to Trump so they don't realize that he is one of the least interventionist candidates in the entire race. Shillary is more of a neocon than Trump in terms of foreign policy.
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>>56767148
It's the difference between corporate inversion and turning America into a tax haven.
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>>56767278
no he isn't he just doesn't want to do it for free like a janitor.
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>>56766960
Thanks mate, no Aussie blood in these veins though, just pure American freedom and red blood cells.
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>>56767426
>no he isn't he just doesn't want to do it for free like a janitor.
that makes him the least interventionist aside from Paul.
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>>56767355
Bermuda have a 0% corporate tax rate.
American companies make over a million per capita on those islands. There must be a very good economy over there.

I agree corporate inversion would become much lower, and the effective tax/tax ratio would at least double. You'd probably have an effective corporate tax rate between 10 and 12%
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>>56766975
I actually just looked it up on his website

>No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15%.

So that's actually a 25% cut on corporate taxes. Damn, that's actually going to be a pretty exciting time to be a business owner.
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If all the Mexicans get deported, no one will grow all our fucking food.
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>>56759829
They won't.
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He'll get rid of all the cheap labor that's keeping 20%~ of American workers out of the job market
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>>56767727
>what are robots
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>>56767678
And it makes a good bit of sense for entrepreneurs. Right now the tax rate on small businesses is as high as 50%, and they can't afford the fancy lawyers of big corporations. It'll lower the barrier to enter into business yourself, which this country desperately needs.

>>56767668
Bermuda isn't bad.
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>>56767727
More Americans work in agriculture than illegals.
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>>56758896
I live among illegals, he is GOD to me, I would die for trump.
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He'll ruin the plans of the degenerate communists hellbent on destroying the white race and family values and ruin the comfort of the Establishment Elites that look the other way as long as they get paid and get to write the laws benefitting their oligarchies.

So yes, if your plans include the literal destruction of this country's identity, he'll ruin it, sure.
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