Exactly what I've been trying to say! Obama might not have been the best president but he's been 1000 times better than bush! Vote Bernie Sanders 2016!!!
>>56749738
Fuck off, paid shill.
>>56749738
Presidents have little to no effect on the Macroeconomy.
>>56749738
bush caused the 2007 crisis?
thats news to me.
>>56749738
He was not responsible for any of those. His greatest enemies, the oil industry, are responsible for all those economic growths.
>>56749738
Stop using facts, conservatives only respond to emotion.
Cue the bullshit graphs complaining about retiring babyboomers on foodstamps
>>56749738
finally an admission that a Sanders presidency is a continuation of the Obama presidency
No thanks
>>56749738
NICE
>>56749738
>last bush year
>same year that the financial crisis happened
nice cherrypick libshit
>>56749923
Effect?
Pissing away TRILLIONS in a pointless war has an effect.
There's a lot of shit that can hit the fans that's out of their control, but they can MOST CERTAINLY steer the damn thing off a cliff face.
>>56750132
obama said so himself...
>>56750132
Holy shit, one democrat is like another democrat!?
Get out!
All I see is genocide.
Pregnancy is plummeting.
DEATH
DOOM
SOON
>>56750215
Yeah. You're right. But I absolutely abhor when people say 'Economy does better under democrats, therefore democrats are better for the Economy!'
Fuck. No.
Also, what is political business cycle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle#Politically_based_business_cycle)
>>56749738
Gotta love that cheap ISIS gas and oil.
>>56750453
R A R E F L A G
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>>56749857
>my sides are in orbit
>>56750327
>All I see is genocide.
Of who?
>Pregnancy is plummeting.
Welcome to the first world.
>>56750748
There's a few of us. But every time I make a post, it gets locked. Fucking mods think i'm 50-Cent. Assholes.
Bush's last year had an economic recession though.
>>56749738
90 million people not working
50 million on food stamps
racial tensions worse that the 1950's
Kill yourself OP
>>56750453
Alright, the economics of the middle class and lower class do better under democrats as compared to a similar period under republican policies.
At least, historically since the 40's. It's been really hammered home that Regan's "trickle down" theory was full of shit, and even most republicans are on that page, but not all.
And like your link points out, it's a balancing act. You can certainly grow too fast and have growing pains... FOR SOME. Namely old money. Under democrats, inflation from the growing economy wipes out their savings and established wealth. Oh noes. How terrible. On the flip side, republicans cause unemployment with power going to the top. ...At least according to the theory you posted. Personally, I think both parties suck the cock of establishment and keep money going to the top.
Bernie would at least try and work that political cycle so it swings back the other way.
>>56751616
He did end torture though, and was heavily criticized for it. He also tried to close Gitmo and the GOP kept it open by refusing to fund the moving of prisoners.
>>56750066
> Conservatives only respond to emotions.
>>56750327
DEATH
DEAR
REAR
ROAR
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SOOT
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>>56751616
He ended torture.
Congress wouldn't let him close guantanamo.
He REALLY didn't do JACK SHIT to end warrentless wiretapping... But we saw how he felt about that 2 months prior to voting for him. Remember that vote?
Also true about wikileaks, although he himself didn't call for blood like the entire GOP.
Yeah, Afghan was a good idea.
Pft. Of course he waved his dick at Iran, but he didn't unilaterally invade it as his opponent probably would have. That's a win for him.
It's not that he needed to prosecute the banks, what he and everyone else completely failed to even consider was re-enstating banking regulations. Which... yeah... is a weird miss for a democrat.
Lybia was a win. Humanitarian effort.
Doma?
NDAA was pretty shit. True that.
FAA drones are legit. Welcome to the future.
HEALTHCARE had to have a bunch of compromise to get ANYTHING passed. And they were still pissed.
>>56749738
>teen pregnancy
what does it have to do with president ? they don't go around knoking up those dumb sluts
That Obama's unemployment rate of 5.1% is so much horse shit.
Under Bush u could collect unemployment for 2 years, now under Obama u r only allowed to collect it for 26 weeks.
Meaning, once mother fuckers can't file a claim anymore, they're no longer counted as unemployment.
U faggot ass, PC police, white guilt having, white privilege believing, dumbass liberal shit for brains. It's ppl like u that ruined Europe with "refugees," now u r trying to do the same thing here. U fucking Marxist, cock sucker.
>>56752429
If they actively look for work, they would still be counted in the unemployment tables.
I'm sorry that the cold, hard numbers don't gel your feelz about how Obama must be shit.
>>56752083
>lybia was a win
>humanitarian effort
Remind me again how much better Lybia is with Gaddafi gone?
>>56752615
That's a lie, shit head. Ppl that r counted in "Unemployment %," r only those collecting unemployment.
You have to look at the workforce participation statistics to truly c the unemployment rate.
Where the fuck did u go to college? The Marxist school for little fag boys?
>>56752666
What the fuck is Lybia?
Kekservative pls crack open a book. No, I didn't say smoke crack s m h
>>56749738
>take 10% of working age people in the country out of employment up from 4% and say unemployment rate is only 5.1%
>Cost of gas has to do with the Fracking boom, not the chief nig
>Uninsured rate lower, coverage vastly worse, I feel for all those veterans who have to wait days while nigs are in and out
>Oil, as previously stated, has nothing to do with the big nig
>Teen pregnancy down, Abortions up
>Iran's centerfuges are now considered ok to have.
>GDP Growth: 3.7%, national debt growth: over 300%
>Dow jones up, Interest rate almost 0, savings effectively negative.
>Lets not forget: Race relations between blacks and whites at the worst they have been since the 60s.
>Pollitical correctness witch hunt worst since McCarthyism
>Government and media encouraging terrorists at the expense of the American people.
>Lack of enforcement of country's borders allowing negative elements to flood into the country at unprecedented rates
>Mass surveillance of American populace
>World leaning towards WW3 because most powerful nation in the world refuses to take decisive action against ISIS
So glad we let a nigger into office. He enriched the crap out of America. Thanks Obongo.
>>56752666
As opposed to Gadaffi's airforce bombing them all?
ALIVE.
Obama didn't start the Arab Spring.
>>56752978
BLS, U1-U6
U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
Nice try, fuckwit. Go and give yourself an uppercut.
>>56752978
http://www.bls.gov/cps/faq.htm#Ques5
Man, republicans are fucked in the head.
>>56750453
Well someones either got a proxy or gonna get executed
>>56751616
DOMA was recently ruled unconstitutional...
>>56749738
And how is teenage pregnancy the presidents fault?
>>56749738
Pls fuck off shill.
>>56749738
>>56753358
>>56753469
That right you right-wing fucknuts, if you can't refute the actual message, go attack the messenger.
Number of niggers making desicions on behalf of America: 0
I'll pay more for gas.
>>56753469
>>56753358
>>56753320
Kek, GOP shills can't handle facts it seems, It is always preferable to use non-sequitirs like "Obama is a bad President" without offering any points to be thoroughly debunked.
>>56749986
Yeah. Actually he delivered no less than three addresses to congress directly addressing the housing bubble.
>>56753508
I would but I'm too lazy to actually argue with a shill who would most likely ignore me on some fast-paced forum board.
Just sounds very counterproductive if I do. Besides you fuckers do the same thing and we actually refute it, kek.
>>56749738
hi mom!
>>56753674
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html?pagewanted=all
Nice attempt to rewrite history, cluck.
>>56753183
Mobile-friendly - Mar 7, 2015 - 33% of Americans out of workforce, highest rate since 1978. The number of Americans aged 16 and older not participating in the labor force hit 92,898,000 in February, tying December's record, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0ahUKEwie057H_qzJAhUI7CYKHYwvC24QFggWMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F238697-americans-labor-jobs-report%2F&usg=AFQjCNEOWA7AKLrWGtnMBawRjZVeeWdZdA
>>56753965
Ah, showing off your army of libtards. That's great. The right owns more of this board than you faggots will ever own.
Besides if I post evidence you'll laugh at it, so you know what, gonna laugh at your evidence. Libtard shill supporter.
>>56753184
Mobile-friendly - Mar 7, 2015 - 33% of Americans out of workforce, highest rate since 1978. The number of Americans aged 16 and older not participating in the labor force hit 92,898,000 in February, tying December's record, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0ahUKEwie057H_qzJAhUI7CYKHYwvC24QFggWMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F238697-americans-labor-jobs-report%2F&usg=AFQjCNEOWA7AKLrWGtnMBawRjZVeeWdZdA
>>56749738
>teen pregnency
u wot
>>56754174
>>56754430
You have posted some numbers, now explain the point you're making
If someone is no longer looking for work (retired, caring for children, on disability) then they are not looking for work and would not be counted in a rate which tallies people who are looking for work.
What is your issue with that?
>>56749738
>unemployment rate
in communism everyone had work
workplaces sponsored by state
no useful work was done and it only cost shitloads of money
but 'muh unemployment rate'
>cost of gallon of gas
the price for a barrel has halved if you haven't noticed
so the price is still a failure
>uninsured rate
all lazy niggers insured
with the money taken from hard working people
including middle class that will then have no many to educate their children
great... more communism
>oil barrels imported
the difference is not covered by home resources
it's just economic decline that causes less import
another success... well, not really.
>teen pregnancy
this is niggers' problem
solved with tax money
because niggers are most important, no?
well more important than working class who must educate their children
so that there will be educated people to do work in the future
but who cares... niggers are most important, because... well... because the nigger-in-charge said so
>etc.
>>56749738
My favorite is the cost of gas gallon. A president who takes credit for lower gas prices formed from outside factors who has himself opposed energy independence at every turn.
>>56753287
I'm proxying from Japan now. But, China is my real IP.
>>56749857
HURR DURR YOUR FACTS ARENT FACTS BECAUSE I USED A JEW MAYMAY
>>56754174
>I don't understand how people can retire, go to school, or become 100% disabled.
Listen fucknuts, 23% aren't looking for work or are getting an education. Holy shit!? I need an education to have a middle-class life in a post-industrial society!? What are the odds?
If you have qualm with how they count unemployment, let's hear it.
How many 16 year olds do you know that have to go work the potato field to feed their family anyhow?
>>56754395
> The right owns more of this board than you faggots will ever own.
Pft, "own".
Also, those were mostly me.
Although it DOES make me feel better about my political party knowing that republican's are more suited for 4chan's /pol/.
>Besides if I post evidence you'll laugh at it,
Like that numbnuts who doesn't understand how to count the unemployed?
>>56749738
Unemployment is higher then 5.6% that number only reflects those qualified to collect unemployment benefits
>>56754720
>in communism
We aren't in a centralized controlled economy.
>the price for a barrel has halved if you haven't noticed so the price is still a failure
The fuck are you complaining about? Low gas prices are a good thing.
>the difference is not covered by home resources
Yeah, yeah it is. Fracking. They're squeezing oil out of old wells. Is this news to you?
>this is niggers' problem solved with tax money because niggers are most important, no?
Do you really want more of them? Is that what you're arguing for?
>>56755102
you dumb fuckers can't even read can you?
>>56753183
>>56753184
http://www.bls.gov/cps/faq.htm#Ques5
>>56749738
Obama was actually a very decent president of you compare with other leftists presidente in The Américas. I would trade Dilma for Obama any day of the week and I think this is true for every leftist Latin América country.
>>56754720
>the price for a barrel has halved if you haven't noticed so the price is still a failure
Only applies if you're a retard and believe the price at the pump is 100% crude oil.
>the difference is not covered by home resources it's just economic decline that causes less import another success... well, not really.
Actually the current price slump IS 100% caused by US oversupply from shale oil. A 25-year high, 10 million barrels per day which is the same as Saudi Arabia's 10.34M.
>>56754834
>Occupy Democrats
>Jewbook clickbait for plebs
>facts
Kek, how much are they paying you?
gas prices are lower because of fracking which obama resisted vehemently
Nice try Libtards, hope y'all r reading (or getting someone to read) some of these gems I'm posting.
Remember guys, "Cultural Marxism" is working out well for Europe, it's gonna do great here too :)
PS: if u wanna suck a Mussies dick, u can go to Syria to do it, u don't have to bring em here.
>>56749738
>people's unemployment checks stop showing up because they can't be on it for so long
>"look unemployment has gone down!"
>>56755639
Thank you for demonstrating that you have no idea how unemployment rates are calculated
Keep watching Glenn Beck and listing to Rush, m80.
>>56750215
But Obama did that too. He didn't stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless wars at all, he just changed the methods to cost less at the price of killing more innocent people.
It's amazing how Democrats pretend they care about collateral damage right up until they're the ones causing it. If a Republican had used an executive order to retroactively declare civilians killed by drone strikes "enemy combatants" there would've been a Leftist riot in the fucking streets.
>>56755760
congrats on knowing how shit in your country works
>>56755900
Yes, because you need to be in a country to know basic facts about it. Idiot.
>>56755866
m8 that is not even close to being accurate
1 million dead, innocent Iraqis van vouch for the few thousand killed in collateral damage drone stikes.
>>56755514
ok, I really fucking hate Bush for almost every god damn fucking thing he did...
But taking the end/start dates in particular are kinda skewed number due to the econopocalypse happening in there.
Not that Bush was good for the economy. He pissed away TRILLIONS on a pointless war. Just that the infographic doesn't really tell the whole story.
>>56755383
Chart says per week
>>56756024
The huge majority of the million dead were Sandkips killing other Sandkips. Should we count insurgent violence in these countries against Obama as well?
Don't be disingenuous. It was predicted years ago that withdrawing from the ME and leaving a token force behind would result in the acceleration of Radical Islam. You cannot meaningfully suppress a radical movement with air strikes and drones.
Now we have ISIS, a group which would never have gained position in Iraq if we had not left it in shambles, a group which is going to cause more damage over the next few years than any war effort we could have possibly waged.
>>56755514
>>56756097
. . . Libtard?
Duuuuuuude. That infographic is NOT kind to Bush.
Bush had a massive increase in unemployment,
Debt per person is of course bigger. Inflation bitch. All historical money values need to be adjusted to present day dollars or they're meaningless. unemployment RATE is untied to that.
And yeah, they were both bad for increasing the debt.
>>56754174
>more americans are out of the work force than ever
>as the largest portion of our population ages out of the labor force
DUH
>>56755866
He ramped down Iraq.
Sure, he sent more troops to Afghanistan. Going there had some merit. 9/11 all that jazz.
As far as lives lost go, nothing can really compare to the HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS of dead Civvies from the sectarian violence that Bush unleashed.
Do you see that big rampup in spending? Do you see 2009 recover?
Do you even fucking SEE that decline since 2009!?
>He didn't stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless wars at all,
REFUTED.
>>56756232
>You cannot meaningfully suppress a radical movement with air strikes and drones.
You cannot meaningfully suppress a radical movement with boots on the ground either.
Caught in another lie abt the discouraged workers being counted in the unemployment.
Shameful ass, fags.
>>56749738
Ever since Obama has been Prez it seems like everyday more and more special interest groups are formed in the U.S. More and more groups that claim they have it unfair and they deserve to be treated better, or that another group needs to be treated worse. We are less united than we were during the Civil War it seems like. It has gotten so bad that radicals like Trump and Sanders are the front runners. Two radicals that want to wither plunge the country even deeper into communism, and the other who wants to embrace the deep set hatred for minorities we have harbored for the last 8 years. No matter who gets elected there is going to be massive social upheaval. Either Dindu's and Queers rioting in the street, or /k/ommandos and /pol/acks starting militias and Republican governors trying to suceed. Obama has completely divided this mation, and now that everyone has taken a side they can't go back to being comrades with their friends from when this country was moderate. Expect the shit to continue to shit the fan this coming election. Thanks Obama.
>>56757094
"discouraged workers" Pft, they AREN'T WORKING. They're not even trying to work.
If they literally applied for ANY job in a fucking month, then they are counted.
These people are not counted towards unemployment because THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO BE EMPLOYED.
16 year old highschool kids likewise aren't in the job market.
Retired people aren't in the job market.
Homeless drifting bums that suck cocks for heroin aren't included either because they're leeches on society that are unemployable.
>the faggots battling it out in this thread fell for the president meme
Kek tell me again how one man influences every single portion of society with no help
>>56749738
>Obama>Bush=Vote Sanders
Dat logic though
>>56757393
U r retarded as fuck. So the Gov't monitors every job application an uneducated shithead like u fills out, then they start including u in the unemployment stats hahahahaha.
U might be the stupidest motherfucker, EVER!
>>56757307
>More and more groups that claim they have it unfair and they deserve to be treated better,
Rose colored glasses. Do you even remember the civil rights movement? No, you don't because it was back in the 60's and you're a fucking child.
>and now that everyone has taken a side
Pft, political side have always been there. They come in an out of extreamism.
The extream right has grown of late. The moderate right has shrank. The left has stayed more or less sane. Woo.
http://xkcd.com/1127/large/
>>56757451
He unilaterally declares war on Iraq.
>>56757698
>So the Gov't monitors every job application an uneducated shithead like u fills out, then they start including u in the unemployment stats hahahahaha.
No, they ask the employers who applied. Statistics yo.
And I'm a SW engineer who can at least spell.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/faq.htm#Ques5
>>56757760
I'll take no argument for 1000, alex.
>>56755514
that image is slightly unfair. They start bushes debt off at 2005 and obamas at 2009,
Also gas prices fluctuate drastically based on supply and demand have done so for the past 15 years now
>>56751706
Dwight D. Eisenhower would like a word with your first claim...
>>56749923
Holy shit that's dumb, Clinton letting financial and banks play together crushed our economy.
>>56757900
He (and Bush) got us out of an economic meltdown. Quit yer bitchin about the bailout. Most of it was repaid.
We've been going over how you fuckheads want to count students and retirees and drug addled bums in unemployment.
The GDP difference is legit. An economic crisis will do that.
I ain't typing those links in.
>>56758163
Legit. Should have said 60's.
>>56757699
The Civil Rights Movement's was for the most part led by a pacifist. Now it's encouraged to be violent, anti-american, and outright attack whites. Not to mention Millenials are reactionary, over-medicated, and emotionally stunted with a tendency of violence.
While we are at it lets compare Obama to George Fucken Washington. I wonder how much oil cost during George Washington's time. Because that's what your fucken MEME doesn't account for a SAME TIME FRAME. You're comparing apples to oranges.
>>56758378
>The Civil Rights Movement's was for the most part led by a pacifist. Now it's encouraged to be violent, anti-american, and outright attack whites.
You seem to have forgotten the black panthers.
Besides. They can vote now. Segregation is over. Mission (mostly) accomplished.
>Not to mention Millenials are reactionary, over-medicated, and emotionally stunted with a tendency of violence.
Every damn generation bitches about the next generation. Get over it grandpa.
>>56749738
Didn't Obama destabilize the world and almost cause ww3?
The economy recovered IN SPITE of him, not because of him.
>>56749738
gas price is irrelevant as prices are crashing because OPEC is flooding the makret to squeeze american shaling, the unemployment rate is an outright lie because obama redefined the definition of unemployment to lower the number essentially refusing to admit that millions of unemployed americans exist. tell me how many people have had their premiums skyrocketed with obamacare? i cant argue the rest dont care much for teen pregnancy theres no cure for adolescent stupidity except time dow jones though... theres a whole big thing about artificially inflated stock prices
>>56758560
>Didn't Obama destabilize the world and almost cause ww3?
No.
>The economy recovered IN SPITE of him, not because of him.
Sure dude.
>>56757965
Yeah, I hear ITT Tech is great school.
8------D~(:
Is that ^ how u r going to welcome the refugees?
>>56749738
>here are a bunch of random statistics that make someone i like look good in my opinion
sweet chart achmed!
>>56758584
>because OPEC is flooding the makret to squeeze american shaling,
That's adorable. USA begins massive increase in oil production for the first time since it hit peak oil in the lower 48 in the 70's. Saudi Arabia continues to output the same rate it always has (Sell as much as we can because we have no self-control). And the Americans bitch about it.
> the unemployment rate is an outright lie because obama redefined the definition of unemployment to lower the number essentially refusing to admit that millions of unemployed americans exist.
Just go apply for a job. It's not that hard.
>tell me how many people have had their premiums skyrocketed with obamacare?
There's some truth there. Insuring more people is cheaper for the nation on the whole, but it's an extra burden. Medical bills are a clusterfuck though. I'd like to see the whole damn thing taken over like most other first world nations. We could privatize the whole thing, and that WOULD straighten out the costs... but there would be horrible pointless suffering by the masses.
>dow jones though... theres a whole big thing about artificially inflated stock prices
And always has been.
>>56759154
ISU.
>Is that ^ how u r going to welcome the refugees?
Yeah, kinda. I want them to go get a job. And most of them well. Better then the local boys anyway.
>>56758560
>Didn't Obama destabilize the world and almost cause ww3?
How so?
You mean the shit going on in Syria and Iraq? That goes back to the CIA arming anti-soviet "freedom fighters" in the 70s. Obama and Bush merely carried on those policies. Bush started actively meddling in Middle Eastern politics and Obama expanded upon it in some regions (Libya) while cutting back in others (Iraq).
Both are fuck ups in terms of foreign policy, but Bush definitely got us stuck in deep shit by taking down Saddam for no reason.
>>56749738
Not a single fucking source was to be had.
