How do we get Turkey off the F-35 list? They've proven that they're too reckless and provocative to be trusted with this level of firepower.
kick them out of nato
The F35 is a shit plane that isn't worth a tenth of what it costs so make them buy more.
>>56746817
"But if do that, they'll radicalize!!!"
>>56746367
The got alot of military companies in turkey
>>56746367
gib it. we will kill more russian jet
>>56746367
implying f-35 is firepower
>>56747180
This, the fact that they're more liable to fight the Russians is a great reason to give them the F-35. Put them to some use, unlike the F-22's (and not to mention that actual combat experience would provide excellent feedback to Lockheed on how / what to improve)
>>56747180
remove yourself
>>56747770
sell us more old F-16's that you don't use
>>56749259
>>56747180
I would love to see how do you do against some real fighters and not some bomber hybrid.
>>56746367
Why? Might as well give it to them for free. How else are we gonna be able to test how it matches up to Russian aircraft. Might as well donate a squadron of f-22s. Everybody is getting butt hurt, but it's pretty awesome to see Russia getting its cumuppance.thanks based kebabs.
>>56747180
Neat.
Just give back Constantinople.
>>56746947
>spouting RT memes
Fuck off. Go start a project with russia for a gen 5 Jsf and watch it fail.
Why don't you want Turkey to fly a turkey?
>>56747770
F-35 is a bomb truck capable of a bit of AA. Perfect replacement for F-16.
No it's not as good as F-22 and never will be. It was not designed for that.
>>56747770
The F22 is just an absolute nutcase of a plane though. They have enough of them and they'll probably never get a kill scored against one so
make cheaper small spinoffs
>>56749651
This.
You get f-35, but you have to give us Constantinople back first.
>>56747770
One is a fighter, the other is a joint strike fighter. So yes payload=firepower. In a theoretical future war the f22 would focus on air to air combat, while the f35 cleans up radar and sams
>>56751569
F-35 is not a dogfighter, but have fun against all those AMRAAMs.
They are more that enough to deal with Russian planes.
>>56746367
>F35
>Firepower
