http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/24/audio-tuaf-warns-ruaf-su-24/
Your saviour Putin is a liar.
Keep hoping he will save you white bois.
>>56739902
He is. And even here people would be more inclined to support Turkey - had it not been for the refugee crisis.
>>56739902
I really hope you Turks shoot down more Putinbots.
Getting tired of all this RUSSIA STRONK shitposting that's been polluting /pol/
>>56739902
>white bois
We nigger now?
>>56740184
I saw few Polish/Ukrainian people somewhat liking the incident. Is that because they're feeling threatened by Russia?
LOL warned 10 times in 17 seconds
riiiiiiight
>>56741193
>I saw few Polish/Ukrainian people somewhat liking the incident. Is that because they're feeling threatened by Russia?
It's just banter.
>>56742869
They warned long before the plane crossed border. Is that so fucking hard to understand?
>>56739902
>believing your own lies
>>56743013
If I'm minding my own business this side of the border you can shove your fucking warning up your arse
>>56743147
That's not how it works. People communicate before they cross the border to avoid cases like this, typical aviation safety. The Russkie didn't listen and paid the price.
>>56739902
>mfw the T*rks haven't been exterminated down to the last man, woman and child and their nations bloodline hasn't been COMPLETELY erased
>mfw every single book, monument, building and artwork of the t*rkish nation (past and present) hasn't been utterly destroyed
REMOVE KEBAB
>>56743569
>Yeah I'll have some general public shit channel open in my fighter while conducting operations over enemy territory
right
>>56744330
Yeah military planes listen to these "public shit channels" for emergencies and such. Just stop posting when you know nothing about the subject.
>>56743013
They shot the plane down in 17 seconds over a distance of 2km while flying the whole duration of the warnings in their own borders and exactly knowing where the russian plane would be inside their borders? Bullshit.
>Speaking to russian pilots in English
>no problem here
>turks are good boys, din do nuffins
>>56743013
>>56744749
This is the area where CNN Turk claims their airspace was violated.
It's 2.7km wide.
Let's go with a really low number, assuming the SU was cruising at a leisurely 600km/h.
That's 16 seconds to cross this distance.
And in that time they supposed warned the aircraft minutes long and with 10 seperate messages.
They really had to had their timing down.
That plane was max 20 seconds in Turkey.
You can't fly like 1 km behind SU-24s gotta be at least 5 km out.
Sidewinders go at about 920 meters per second.
So they had a good 10~15 seconds to legally shoot it down in turkey.
Fucking German Precision right here.
Just pointing out because it frustrates the niggers:
Turkey crossed over into Syrian airspace to kill someone who had already left their country.
Imagine that you have border guards. Imagine that they see someone crossing the border. They want to shoot this person.
But the person leaves. AND THEY FUCKING FOLLOW THE PERSON INTO THE OTHER COUNTRY TO KILL THEM.
That is what makes this an act of war. NATO does not apply - NATO does not protect a country that takes acts of aggression. And crossing into another country to kill someone just because they earlier were in yours, IS AN ACT OF WAR.
>>56743013
They "warned" them whilst they were in Syrian airspace and we shot down in Syrian airspace
>>56742869
Turks speak fast
>>56744990
>jet flying at 600kph in a potentially dangerous location
You're retarded
>>56739902
Fuck you, and fuck the Salafist terrorists you support in Syria
>>56744749
And getting in the right position + lock on for their missiles. 17 seconds is nothing, it's it's around the same time of ringing the doorbell on a house and waiting for the owner to open the door who's standing in the kitchen. Fucking 17 seconds!
>>56745016
>They
>we
Turk get out of the UK
>>56739902
>Be kebab
>forgot to warn
>take down a plane
>fast fast fast record a warning
>upload to the internet
>???
>DINDUNUFIIIIIIN AYWA AYWA
>>56739902
>I support ISIS
>>56745096
Believe the Refugee was just using that as a base number to show how silly the claim is.
But you're right. It was most likely flying at regular combat speeds, and was probably in Turkey no more than a few seconds.
>>56745238
Just like those pesky Palestinians.
>>56745096
And you cant read
>Let's go with a really low number, assuming the SU was cruising
>assuming
>took a low number on purpose to proov my point even more
stop beeing a cunt
>>56745183
Said the German
How can you start 2 world wars and still lose both?
Anyway, enjoy naming your son Muhammad there Mr.800,000
>>56745391
>assuming any jets pilot will fly 600kph in a combat zone in any situation
This is why you can't win wars
>>56739902
Here's the facts Putinbots.
How close do you think you can fly a warplane to Russian airspace before they start issuing warnings? And just how far into Russian airspace do you believe you can fly your armed aircraft before the Russian air defense blows you out of the sky?
This is simply a case of the Russian Air Force being treated exactly as they treat other nations, under the mistaken belief that their "superpower" (lol) status allows them extra dick-waggling room with other countries.
This isn't true even for other powers, even between other nuclear powers there have been incidents with planes being brought down.
Putin's boys thought they could bomb Turkey's anti-Assad Turkmen allies with impunity and label all their targets "ISIS, no really" and what would the Turks do about it?
Now they know. Here's some delicious Putin nips to soothe the feelings of you faggots.
>>56745398
>start 2 world wars
>2
>brit thinks he did shit in the second
And I thought the UK had a decent education
Just shut ya facking mouth ya stupid cunt
>im triggered because of your ignorance
>>56744112
dat profile pic
>>56745238
no believe me. they are retarded bydlos who violated our airspace even after getting warned 10 seperate times starting from 30 km's and each 30 seconds.
>>56745398
How can you have an empire in which the sun never sets and fuck it up so bad you end up keked by your former subjects on a rainy island.
>>56745543
>comparing flying into a nuclear power to flying into contested territory
That border pretty much exists on paper only.
>>56745502
you're either trolling or retarded
>>56745398
Oh my god. How can you respect yourself being so annoying ? How can you respect yourself invading one's country and bringing only pain to their people ?
>>56745140
This. Even if the Turkish jets were scrambled and waiting at the border, 17 seconds is not nearly long enough to sight the target, line up and get a lock. This is assuming that the jet was just cruising. Naturally if the jet was flying at combat speeds, the window would have been far smaller.
The reality is that the missiles were launched outside of Turkish airspace.
ITT: kikes who hate Putin because he's based
>>56745096
>>56745307
>>56745502
Why are you such a stupid cunt?
We have the same opinion, all I did was taking a lower number to proov me point even more.
>assuming any jets pilot will fly 600kph in a combat zone in any situation
>This is why you can't win wars
How old are you? 12?
We won wars when there wasnt even a GB.
>>56742869
>approaching
I'm not defending them but they say they started warning far before the craft actually6 hit their airspace.
Either way, dead Muslims are best Muslims. Keep em coming Russia I want to see more dead Turk cunts littering this great site of ours over the next week.
>>56739902
Turkey showed the whole world they're backstabber and that you can't take the hostility out of a Muslim even after a century of secularizetion.
You're the last proof needed to show It's Islam itself that's the root of terrorism, corruption, confusion, misinformation, overpopulation, violence, slavery and war.
How can you still believe in Allah when its ideology proved to be true evil?
>>56739902
People will cry over anything.
>take it like a man Putinbots; no one wins forever
Really? Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the Great Russian Republic is a liar?
Who'da thunk it?
>>56745661
>That border pretty much exists on paper only.
As opposed to the ones defined by 500' flaming walls of hellfire?
This sort of sketchy border exists all over the world, in the China Sea, between the nuclear powers of India and Pakistan..
Russian Maverick knew he was top-gunning in the danger zone, the Turks had been shooting down Russian drones in that area, there had already been a diplomatic stink about it.
Build Wall.
mfw turks and russians are going at it
>>56745551
>trying to say brits did nothing in WW2
I think I triggered Ahmed here. His dad must have died to a brit in Caen
>>56745657
>German trying to insult the British empire
>forgets about the 9 failed German colognes in Africa
Okay dude
>>56745762
You realise Britain was formed before Germany was unified
Also
>we
Muhammad, you've been in Germany 2 months. It's not your country yet
>>56739902
>http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/24/audio-tuaf-warns-ruaf-su-24/
>audio-tuaf-warns-ruaf-su-24
Whether a warning was issued or not is irrelevant.
Greek aviators warn your nigger pilots all the time - since they keep on violating Aegean airspace, yet we have never blown you out of OUR skies.
Keep being a nigger.
>>56745543
Be patient young Mehmetwan.
Putin will have the final word.
Remember, the strongest country turkey has ever fought against in the 21st century is Cyprus.
Without NATO and daddy Obama, you're just a bunch of little bitches.
Note how fuckboi erdogan turned immediately to his nigga NATO sugardaddy for validation and support.
>>56745775
You never won and you're about to lose half of your country. Enjoy Kurdistan independence.
>>56745617
hope greeks starting shooting down your planes during one of thousand times per year you violate greek airspace
>>56745980
>You realise Britain was formed before Germany was unified
You realize there were many german states before? No ones talking about unified germany
>>56745935
Turn that proxy off, Mehmet. The US confirmed the plane was shot over Syria.
>they were warned while they were in syria
lmao
fuck off with this, how is that even an argument? Its like yelling at your neighbor for being to close the fence while he is on his side of it
>>56746110
>german states
>Austria
>prussia
>GERMAN STATES
German education shinning through once more
Oh am laffin
>>56745617
30s x 10=300 so 5 minutes, which is 1/12th of an hour
12 x 30km=360kmph at which an aeroplane basically falls out of the sky because of the low lift. Lie better, filthy Ottoman
>>56746047
>since they keep on violating Aegean airspace, yet we have never blown you out of OUR skies.
We both know replacing that missile would leave hundreds of shitty Greek children starving in the streets.
>Note how fuckboi erdogan turned immediately to his nigga NATO sugardaddy for validation and support.
Yes, that's how NATO works, you consult with them when you have a conflict with Russia. Did they not send you guys the pamphlet when you signed up?
Does every alliance have to regret letting the Greeks join?
>>56746108
Every greek's wet dream ..
>>56746230
>Austria
>prussia
Are you retarded??
You have no idea about history mate, again no ones talking about these one either
>tfw Russia literally steamrolls over turkey like the shitpile they are
Putin stronk
>>56746299
>consult
in this case
consult = cry like a bitch nigga to papa Obama
>>56746366
God Bless.
Dubs confirm.
>>56746366
>mfw Putin rolls a bulldozer over some imported Baklava "to teach those dirty Turks a lesson they won't forget!".
Putin's little-thug posturing ends where NATO begins.
>>56745980
>colognes
Breh
>>56745617
Camelfucker you what.
Are you telling me that your airspace starts where oua airbase airstrip ends?
Enjoy more evaporated donkeyfucking turksmen near your border.
That area will be glases as if its a fucking christmas morning.
>>56746320
Jesus christ you're retarded
Go on then makmhood, tell me the "German states" that unified Germany
>>56740301
RUSSIA STRONK
>>56745502
What happened to the education system in the UK? Do they not teach basic reading comprehension anymore or are they just breeding retards these days?
>>56746496
Are you people going to compile a list of 2015 Non-Happenings?
Sort of a Year in Review?
Remember to add that one.
The Middle East just needs to get glassed, baka desu senpai
>>56744990
>implying NATO wouldnt go with Turkeys version
>implying NATO and murrica doesnt do whatever it wants
>>56746316
How does it feel to have a straight up hypocrite run your nation turkroach?
>>56746496
Stop being a bitch and take it like a man.
>>56746974
There is a difference between one violation case and multiple times in a month .
>>56739902
Fuck you kebab.
You shot down a plane then shot down the pilots who parachuted out of the plane. It's clear that you only wanted to cause trouble, because that's what you kebab goat-fuckers always want... trouble.
I hope Russia gives you a good telling off, bastards.
>>56747115
Shut the fuck up dude.
Turkey is acting all high and mighty right now because papa murriga has interests in Syria that happens to currently align with Turkeys. Once it doesnt anymore, youre back to irrelevancy.
Remember what happened last time Turkey went toe to toe with Russia. Oh wait, like the last ten times.
>>56747165
I don't understand why when we take one russkie airplane down every eurokek's ass hurt ?
>>56739902
good job Turks
>>56747115
there is a difference of flying 5 minutes in a airspace and 17 seconds
>>56746747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsxnwphNzU
It's actually happening, disastrous and sad for the people living there but it's interesting to see where this goes now
>>56739902
Will based Putin finally restore rightful clay to his Christian brothers?
>>56747002
Fucking cockroach.
Syrian air space =\= your air space.
You fucked up big this time.
Turksmen will be replaced stalin style.
PKK will recive any arms support that they will ask.
I fucking dare you cockroach set your shitty nose out of your airspace and try to bomb them.
>memes
>cockroaches strong
incoming
>>56747115
Literally subhuman tier logic, but I'll play along :^)
So you're saying doing it more then once is not ok? What about Turkish jets that constantly violate Greek and Syrian airspace? Shouldn't they also get blown the fuck up then?
>Russians aren't waiting for that slip-up to happen...
>>56746316
We downed and killed on of your birds in '96. You did nothing. You're such a fucking backwards country that you listen only what your fucking sultan wants you to listen. Search the fucking facts kebab.
At least we know the shit we're in. You. You're fucking oblivious.
>>56747604
Like if russkies don't help kurds for 20 years already . How can you be more supportive to them ? Giving them a blowjob ?
>be slavshit
>use unprofessional military to show off their unprofessional antics
>be a dickhead for the 100th time
>finally get shot out of the sky
>cry about it
>>56747730
>nigger swj commie calling me a commie.
what a delusional faggola.
>>56747730
STFU amerifat, Canada stands with their northern brothers.
>>56744990
They need to have a lock on the both SU-24 way in Syrian airspace and wait precisely to fire missiles. This is SU-24 it can go over 2 Mach's but lets say to not bodes local wildlife it go much slower.
then you calculations are right.
Problem with Turkish Map is it is very not preciously. distance between dots is like flew kilometers that's allowing to approximate real path, but approximation has always a mistake in it. if position on this Uber Precision map was lets say 2- 5 sec which you can get from standard radar readings will show bit different fly-path.
>>56739902
And a cück
>Russia says Mohammed cartoon publication illegal
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-mohammed-cartoon-publication-illegal-163336088.html
>Russia moves to criminalize Holocaust denial
https://www.rt.com/politics/denial-holocaust-criminalize-moves-russia-853/
What did the Turks have to say about violating airspace a few years ago: A violation of one to two kilometers is accepted as "natural" given the speed of aircraft, the statement said. This year's violations of Turkish airspace lasted between 20 seconds and nine minutes, which showed "airspace violations can be resolved by warning and interceptions,".
I hope Russia bombs you muslims subhumans into extinction.
>>56747902
Blow Job you already giving to USA and whole NATO to came them down.
Russia didn't need to give them blow job, just real weapons, for example pic related. And you will have No fly zone not only over Syria but over most of you territory to.
>>56746101
damn, that austrian pkk sympathizer again.
pkk is boring.
What really happened:
Turkey knew Russia would be flying missions in the area, they were waiting for an opportunity to shoot down a Russian craft. This was no violation of airspace posing a threat to Turkey, it was Turkey behaving like a good little lap dog to stir up shit on behalf of the US.
>>56748952
You ignorants must learn that PKK in Turkey fighting in the steep mountainous terrain . That means only helicopters and airplanes can be use .
>>56747762
You were pumped by British and Russians to be independent; then invaded by Germans, had internal conflicts; coups; a failed Cyprus policy, a bankrupt treasury and still hate Turks?
Why? You brought this all to yourself.
>>56739902
The bombings of your shit country has already started.
I cant wait until Peshmerga get Russian weapons.
kek
>>56745617
That Jet does those 30km in less than 180s (3m).
In that period of time you warned them 10 times, contacted your superior, he gave the ok, you let the pilots know, locked them and shot them over Turkey.
Nice man, you must be the best trained air force in the world.
>>56749349
>all world against us
>thats how we strong.
Camelfucker please you only existence are thanks to britbongs alone.
Now bow down and bend over, like you used to.
>>56749532
That is the beauty of it .
>>56749610
You know; you don't care about the world either. So why don't you bend over this time like everyone else?
>turks in damage control mode after fucking up bigtime
we sure didn't see that coming
>>56749955
>B-b-but mah allies...
>>56749349
Russia never fought on our behalf during the revolution. Shows how fucking much you know about your own goddamned history.
France and Britain gave us money and guns and until 1980 we were repaying that very first loan. They send a few ships and less than 200 fighters. And then they sold us during 1922. In any case I'd choose every fucking day of the week any european country over your lot. You're fucking brainwashed 3rd world trash.
Keep saying to yourself that you're a glorious empire kebab.
Who fucking thinks hate you? You don't even exist in our everyday talk, and we treat your girls real nice every summer.
Cheers.
>>56750162
the fuck donkey fucker, that does not even makes sense.
Sincne fucking when we are part of your shitty hivemind ape shit cockroach colony.
Elaborate.
>>56750219
you have no idea
http://news.yahoo.com/west-urges-escalation-turkey-shoots-down-russian-plane-082736643.html
>>56750219
>implying damage control
you have a keyboard maple syrup; not a rifle
>>56750512
>damage control
>an attempt made to correct or rectify a situation that went wrong
That's exactly what you guys are doing.
Just look at this article.
>>56750494
>>56750512
that literally going all memes 4rd time in this thread alone.
Its time to take a break cockroach.
>>56750272
10/10 would do again . Fuck ISIS . They will dissapear like they begin to known as a blink . PKK is the real problem for us .And you guys also see PKK as a terrorist organization for 20+ years .
>>56750482
Russians learned how to run a state and army from Turks. We're proud of your progress, really. Like Brits are proud of Americans.
>>56745238
Turkey has always been the dindu of these parts.
>>56750512
The more I browse pol the more I'm convinced that the world is in fact controlled by memes.
>>56750716
Dude . Chill . It's just one plane man . Don't need to be a butthurt that much .
>>56750818
Thats not even historically accurate.
you cant fight for shit.
>>56751030
Next time if i would need an arguement from a pests ill ask pest control.
>>56739902
>This may be true because it was for sure a Turkish Air Force radar station to warn the Russian plane and to urge it to head south, away from the border.
The following audio was recorded on the international UHF Emergency frequency 243.000 MHz by a reader who wishes to remain anonymous. We have no way to verify whether the audio was really recorded earlier today and we must highlight that similar messages have been radioed to unknown/Russian aircraft in the vicinity of the Turkish airspace in the past
Also the warning only says YOU ARE APPROACHING TURKISH AIRSPACE TURN back NOT ONCE DID IT SAY YOU HAVE BREACHED TURKISH AIRSPACE, TURN BACK.
Enjoy getting your country conquered.
>>56751030
typical dindu
If the slouvakis shot down one of your planes you'd be the first to drop nuclear kebabs on Athens.
>>56740301
Nice proxy mudslime.
>>56750716
>>56751030
Don't worry Russian bro, you can't banter with these Turkish retards, all they do is spout memes since they don't have anything intelligent to say.
>>56751250
Ahahaha . I like you Ivan . You have been a good amusement for me . Keep up the good work .
>>56750818
Turkshits.
Running a country.
Literally have their own empire run by Serbs who were forcibly converted to islam in order for an empire to be able to exist at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokollu_Mehmed_Pasha
>Sokollu Mehmed Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: سوکلو محمد پاشا; Serbo-Croatian: Mehmed-paša Sokolović, Cyrillic: Meхмeд-пaшa Coкoлoвић, pronounced [měxmet pâʃa sokǒːloʋit͡ɕ];[2] 1506 – 11 October 1579) was an Ottoman statesman. Born in Ottoman Bosnia into a Serbian Orthodox family, Mehmed was taken away at an early age as part of the Ottoman devşirme system of collection of Christian boys to be raised to serve as a janissary. These boys were forcefully converted into Islam, raised and educated, but in turn were offered great opportunities to excel and to rise within the Ottoman imperial system; Sokollu Mehmed Pasha is one of many that made the best of their careers (reaching Grand Vizier rank).
> Grand Vizier (1565–1579, for a total of 14 years, three months, 17 days) under three sultans: Suleiman the Magnificent, Selim II, and Murad III.[3] He was assassinated in 1579, ending his near 15-year rule as de facto ruler of the Ottoman Empire.[3]
Turks couldn't even run a pool in the middle of the desert considering how much of a subhumans there are.
>>56739902
REMOVE KEBAB
>>56751472
> Keep up the good work .
Oh i surely will.
Next week lifeleak will be a fucking shit tons of bombing vidiya from your cunt.
I will fucking enjoy watching little mehmet crying his ass off "mama i cant walk my legs are missing"
Again with the idiotic American rethoric. You white American are 60% of the population and plummeting and here you are defending muslims. Yes, Russians bad, muslims good!
>>56750272
But aren't the Kurds fighting ISIS?
Why is a NATO member giving aid and comfort to ISIS?
>>56747372
Because "eurokeks" are civilized enough not to overreact about a plane grazing our airspace for 17 seconds. Yet t*rks chimp out like some African-tier warlords.
>>56751752
Big words from a small country. "Serbia" is nothing more than a principality. Send in your master.
>>56752010
False. Americans support and admire Putin. They call us the silent majority for a reason.
>>56752121
Turkey is a house of cards. Its a house of cards so caked in shit and jizz that half way through collapse it just got glued together.
They have no fucking idea what they're doing.
>>56752306
Ever notice how Ottoman Empire power waned as sultans reduced the power of superior slavs due to frequent rebellions by them ?
"Your Empire" was never yours.
>>56750272
This is the best meme ever, starting with Pajeet. IO wonder what genius wizard made it.
>tfw you trigger turks all day because it's just so easy
>tfw you finally understand what australians feel 24/7
It's a strange feel.
>>56752478
And you have a country of your own now. If you're happy with it; it's not our business. Ottoman Empire was continuation of Byzantine, which was a descendant of Roman Empire. The empire structure was shaped and time tested to be succesful. It was never ethnicity or religion that was the central pillar of the empire; you just left it because thought religion or race will give you superiority. Now we're all dependant to stronger powers.
>>56752834
be degenerate dirty subhuman turks and muslims on top of that.
Claim you continued Byzantine Empire.
It doesn't get more laughable that this.
Go wash yourself mehmet.
>>56752296
Reading up on this topic there have been problems with the russian military for a couple months - In october there were various complaints by the NATO and Turkey to stop avian space violatiobs by Russia.(http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/turkey-says-russian-warplane-violated-airspace)
There were also couple cases of russian pilots locking on their missile radars on turkish jets which were in proximity.
This "banter" backfired this time.
>>56752834
>Ottoman Empire was continuation of Byzantine, which was a descendant of Roman Empire.
>Pillages Byzantium
>WE ROME NOW
>>56752834
>Ottoman Empire was continuation of Byzantine
I bet you have a great school system in Turkey, Mehmet.
>>56753576
Catholics did that in 13th Century. Greeks puked on them.
They remeber sack of constantinople; when Turks conquered; there was nothing left really.
>>56739902
WOWAWIWOO ABSOLUTE UNREFUTABLE PROOF THAT SOUND FILE
YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE GIVEN A VOCAROO LINK FUCKING IDIOT.
TURKS ARE LIARS.
>>56753715
Not really, schools only teach you how to write and read.
>>56751752
It's funny when you think about it. Since the "janissary" practice was done by the millions, just think about how much Serbian and greek dna was passed to turkish women.
It's actually really funny.
>>56753921
Sokollu mehmed pasha, some viziers i can't remember; they all remebered their hometowns and built caravanserais, bridges and public buildings in return. That was the system. Not quite "colonial" as western powers demonstrate.
>>56753852
This guy is right! I mean russians would never lie and bent the truth!
>>56752834
>ottoman empire was continuation of roman empire
If this is the bullshit youre taught at school i can understand why so many turks have a completely false image of themselves.
>>56754299
>Russians lie thus Turks tell the truth
>>56754102
And the western powers didnt build schools, hospitals, bridges and roads in the territories they conquered?
Get out of here Mehmet.
>>56754472
Every empire has its version of history. You should know better, brit.
>>56754659
except turkish history is about as correct as macedonian.
>>56754651
Yes they did. And converted them to their own religion and taught their language. To ensure they won't revolt over trivial issues like religion or identity.
>>56754904
You literally did the same scum
>These boys were forcefully converted into Islam
Only reason albania and bosnia exist is because of forcible conversion.
>>56754752
don't know what they teach to macedonians. last time I checked; some of them hated Turks. but again, they're hated by a lot of their neighbors.
>>56754659
Not british, i simply pay into their tax system.
I do however know that for the most part, the brits were empire builders employing divide and conquer tactics wherever they went. But they dont claim to be the inheritors of the mughals simply because they conquered that territory.
The turks, over centuries and with quite a few lucky factors, managed to defeat the Byzantine empire. But dont ever delude yourself into thinking that you inherited their legacy. You destroyed their legacy, vandalised and desecrated the greatest city on the planet.
>>56755088
wrong. bosnians were adherents of a sect declared heretical by vatican. they chose islam by themselves. albanians are also fractured by their own choices. if there was a forced conversion; bulgarians, armenians and greeks should be muslims now.
>>56754904
They did not convert people forcibly. Are you saying India is anglican or even christian?
They made sure people didnt revolt by violently putting down rebellions.
As P. Hitchens says, either you have an empire or youre part of someone elses, and if i could choose an empire to be part of, the british empire would be quite close to the top.
The ottoman empire would be at the bottom.
>>56755191
not gonna challenge that. but ottoman sultans did use the title "roman emperor" -kayser-i rum- in diplomacy. mughals were also Turkic according to our version. luck alone can't account for the success. anyway, it's history but we do remember.
>>56739902
mate you gonna butthurt alot of the putin drones with this
>>56755285
> implying millions of greeks and other ethnicities in Asia Minor were not made to convert into Islam.
Seriously bro, that's the shit they teach you?
>>56755089
They're not hated by their neighbors at all.
They teach them they're descendants of Alexander of Macedonia and his people. they also claim serbian and bulgarian and greek figures as their own. Basically communist in Yugoslavia invented their culture for political reasons, they're a mix of bulgarians, serbs and greeks.
>>56755191
More than a few lucky factors.
Byzantine Empire was enganged in a decade long civil war.
Bulgarian Empire was split in 3 parts between different warring factions
Serbian Empire between 6-7 warring factions.
They just came at the right time.
20-30 years before they would get btfod
>>56755285
Janissaries were forcibly converted and everyone who was gathered via blood tax.
Bosnians weren't adherents of a sect declared heretical by vatican wtf are you on about, they were orthodox serbs, bosnians as a people didn't exist before islam.
>>56755546
I'm going to crown myself emperor of Turkey.
Doesn't matter what the rest say, I see myself as an emperor and nobody has the right to tell me I'm not!
Cry more subhuman
>>56755613
implying he ever went to school
implying there are schools in turkey.
>>56755546
And Idi Amin claimed to be the king of Scotland. What titles the Sultans attributed to themselves is of little interest. The turks arent roman, never was, and did not continue the eastern roman empire.
You had an empire of your own do you really need to appropriate the empire you conquered as well?
>>56751752
>Literally have their own empire run by Serbs who were forcibly converted to islam in order for an empire to be able to exist at all.
i doubt that. you serbs cant even run your own country and now you are saying you are running another one?
>>56739902
There is no reason whatsoever for Turkey to shoot down planes that fight the same cause as Turkey. Didn't they kill the pilot while he was in parachute? If Turkey fighting against ISIS or against Kurds? They are neither, they are only conquering land.
>>56750272
Turkey fighting against PKK since 1978.
>>56755467
india is too large to be swallowed by any external force. british was wise to choose colonies all around the world. their diplomacy and power was top in 19th century. that i know much.
>>56754472
Ottomans werent turk mate, family only breed with europeans , all officer ranks were european kids taken from their families . Ottoman family always treat turks as barbaric sub humans
>>56755613
what's your version then. why there was a population exchange after 1922 if millions of greeks and other ethnicities are already converted to islam?
>>56755791
do you know why holy roman empire named itself as such?
you got your answer there.
>>56755931
I know how the janissary system operated. I still wouldnt call it a european empire just because the officers were slaves from european territories.
Nothing about Turkey is european. Nothing.
>>56755807
I literally linked you the article Ahmed. Serb, Orthodox, forcibly converted to islam, de facto ruler during the "reign" of three sultans for 15 years.
He wasn't the only one, feel free to look through grand viziers and see how many were serbs.
Also, their entire military might was based on janissaries which the ottomans were not, but serbs, greeks, bulgars...
>>56756061
You couldn't convert them all cunt.
Many would rather die than abandon their faith.
And since your soldiers were shit tier you needed us to fight and left some alone.
>>56756136
The holy roman empire was established in europe, by a european king, crowned by a european pope residing in rome.
Thats a bit different from an conquering horde pillaging constantinople and usurping the title.
>>56743013
Shut the fuck up, Putin is based, and if you say anything against him I am going to cry
>>56755931
not only european but they mixed with slavs also. Their downfall came when they extended to the south and mixed with arabs. mfw arabs fuck everything up
>>56756188
oi mate keep calm you wanker
>>56756061
Also funny how all slavs who didn't declare themselves as Bulgarians, declared themselves as serbs on the balkans, even most of croats did.
The bosnians and the rest started existing on due to your meddling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ILXaMwdNI
>>56756396
Arabs , saudis esipecially cancer of the world
>>56756267
>I literally linked you the article Ahmed
a wikipedia article stating that the turks took away your boys to slave away for them. So how is this how you serbs run a coutnry?
Also your knowledge of the janisarries is lacking. You serbs, turks and russians are so alike. So full of yourselves. It makes me want to vomit. Fuck your countries they are fucking nothing.
>>56756568
but maybe they would make good cannonfodder?
>>56756319
oh, rome was sacked by holy roman emperors too. and some normans. anyway; point being; it doesn't matter. ottomans had their finest hour. now we're back to bickering like everyone else.
>>56756672
Be a Grand Vizier and de facto ruler of the Ottoman Empire
Nah you're slave says Ahmed.
>>56756672
So it is true, Germany literally has become Turkey 2.0. I didnt want to believe it til now.
My god.. :'(
>>56756545
if you're happy with that; it's ok. croats, bosnians and serbs are of same ethnic stock anyway.
>>56756672
If you're unfamiliar with Islamic homosexuality then everything else you have to say starts to sound Best Korean or like an American who insists that we found the WMD.
>>56757031
Or won in vietnam?
>>56739902
The duration of the audio is longer than what the plane remained inside airspace.
>>56756672
If your country is such a marvelous empire, then what are you doing in Germoney?
>>56750764
Your president is literally supporting ISIS, you can't just say that they'll be gone in the blink of an eye and that's why you're not doing anything, when you are funding and supporting them.
Fuck you, I'd say that I hope Putin levels your entire country to dust, but there's good history there, and I just hope he purifies the land of your existence.
