Am I white?
No. Sorry. Are you in the mafia?
>>56720727
No my great grandparents fled that shit 1890s
>>56720727
I would have gotten into a better college if I only knew this :-(
>>56720605
Shut the fuck up cortland, just because you got the flag tattooed on your chest, doesn't make you Italian.
>>56720926
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Hey, i'd buy you a cannoli if I were near you. Keep your chin up lad
>>56720998
good, I identify as Sicilian not Italian
>>56720605
Enough with the muh heritage shit. My ancestry is Italian and that doesn't make me an Italian. We're Americans. That is it. Its embarrassing that Americans continue with this heritage shit. Our ancestors were rejects from Southern Italy that no one wanted. Stop being proud of that.
>>56720605
Evola was a Sicilian.
>>56720605
What do Sicilians think of Based Malta?
>>56720605
Frederick II
>>56720605
You are a pizza nigger
>>56721377
I don't know about you but I'm obligated to get my dual citizenship. I'm 100% Sicilian. I don't know if they were rejects the left because of shitty economic conditions. What's wrong with being proud of being a purebred and not a mutt?
>>56720605
If you are sicilian, then I'm lombard.
Just accept the fact that no matter what we do we are New Worlders and euroshits will consider us foreigners.
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM
>>56720605
>Am I white?
NO.
>>56721377
Fuck the fakeass "American" identity. It doesn't mean shit in this modern day and age other than you owe your taxes to washington.
>>56721603
Kek
>>56721756
So that's why we kept the clean sheet against you in the World Cup last go round
>>56720605
nope, you are a nigger. with niggerblood
>>56721550
Kinda a muslim place, isn't it? I prefer Corsica, it totally should be part of Italy not France.
>>56721916
>>56722177
>Lombardia and Friuli are out
Feels good man, that was close.
>>56722177
>Muh one drop
At least the average Sicillian hates niggers and mudslimes. The average Brit has yet to catch up in that regard.
>>56722177
>>56722379
What about Argentina though
>>56722454
Shut up Pablo
>>56722481
The white be tryna keep da southern man down
>>56721745
Wanted to post this but i somehow knew somebody would be faster than me.
>>56721377
Ethnicity is way, way more important than national identity.
>>56722631
Up yours bong. Ya ain't gonna be white for long if your women keep on taking that paki dick.
>>56722481
>>56722177
The highest HDI regions of Italy are central, not Northern.
This is consistent with a hypothesis of migration, not racialism. Racialism would have the genetically intermediate central region as medial to the south and north poles, which is not the case.
>>56722924
Eyy sinor como estas essay u loco dawg
We're Mediterranean
The olive oil people
not quite white, not quite nigger
>>56720605
Never been there
>>56722002
Muslim? Its one of the most Catholic places on earth
>>56720605
Niggers of italy
>>56722939
>Racialism would have the genetically intermediate central region as medial to the south and north poles, which is not the case.
That statement is rather dubious
>>56723370
Sicily was ruled by Muslims for awhile. That's why they're darker than northern Italians.
>tfw 90% of italian americans are sicilian or southerner
>tfw northern italian descent
Its weird, I can't even fit in with wops because I don't look like them, but i'm not a WASP either.
>>56720605
No.
Sicily would be a nice place for vacations if it wasn't for the mafia though, I speak from experience.
>>56723598
You might want to try expanding. The characteristics of the progeny from a mixed union have been described as intermediate between the parents since the time of Mendel.
Who were the Moors and what was their ethnicity?
I know Ethiopia successfully invaded Sicily back in the day, so I'm probably a bit black. I don't think I'm black according to the federal government
>>56723606
RARE
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>>56723619
Welcome to my fucking world friend. My ancestors were educated Tuscans who worked in banking and academia.
>>56723606
This meme again. Theres more greek genetic influence in Sicily than any other foreign influence.
>>56723606
Oh man, is this rare flag?
>>56723606
That's simply not the case. Even if you were to take the high end estimates of genetic admixture in Sicily, you have a maximum of 3% North African admixture. The idea that 3% admixture would be detectable in phenotype is absolutely insane. I could show you a 15% coal-black negro and 85% Swede and you'd have a hard time distinguishing him from the European population.
Pre-historic migration patterns are more explanatory in nearly all cases of intra-racial phenotypic diversity in Europe.
>>56723619
>family is just outside of Florence
>I'm supposed to be the same as a goddamn Sicilian cause I'm "Italian"
I know your pain bro
>>56723754
I'm not scared of the mafia, what are they gonna do kill me? I doubt it.
>>56720605
Nothing. I don't think about Sicily at all.
>>56723818
>Ethiopia successfully invaded Sicily
Accept it, you are American.
>>56723370
There's a lot of muslim architecture on the Island still IIRC
Malta became involved in the Muslim–Byzantine Wars, and the conquest of Malta is closely linked with that of Sicily that began in 827 after admiral Euphemius' betrayal of his fellow Byzantines, requesting that the Aghlabid dynasty invade the island.[55] The Muslim chronicler and geographer al-Himyari recounts that in 870 AD, following a violent struggle against the occupying Byzantines, the Muslim invaders, first led by Halaf al-Hadim, and later by Sawada ibn Muhammad, looted and pillaged the island, destroying the most important buildings, and leaving it practically uninhabited until it was recolonised by the Muslims from Sicily in 1048–1049 AD. It is uncertain whether this new settlement took place as a consequence of demographic expansion in Sicily, as a result of a higher standard of living in Sicily (in which case the recolonisation may have taken place a few decades earlier), or as a result of civil war which broke out among Muslim rulers of Sicily in 1038.[56] The Muslims introduced new irrigation, some fruits and cotton and the Siculo-Arabic language was adopted on the island from Sicily: it would eventually evolve into the Maltese language.[57]
The Christians on the island were allowed freedom of religion; they had to pay jizya, a tax for non-Muslims, but were exempt from the tax that Muslims had to pay (Zakaat).[58]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta#Muslim_period_and_the_Middle_Ages
>>56724036
'American' implies the validity of civic nationalism, which is the same ideology that is working to divest native European peoples from the right to their homeland.
Civic nationalism is anti-white. American identity is anti-white.
>>56721376
same thing, really
I always wanted a big booty Sicilian goddess
>>56723619
The economy was and still is shit in southern italy, so people left. Northern Italians did not have much reason to leave.
>>56724114
7/10 if you are counter trolling my post.
1/10 if your reply is serious.
>>56723956
>>56723994
You guys are trying way too hard. I'm Sicilian, and I've never been in any capacity distinguishable from the Irish and WASP friends I grew up with.
>>56723999
>implying they haven't killed tourists yet
But yeah they usually limit themselves to robbing you or burning down your property.
>>56724354
Irish maybe but where I live WASP types don't like italians...
>>56723818
>Ethiopia invaded Sicily
U wot
No, muslims ruled Sicily before the Normans came and rekt their shit during the middle ages
Ethiopia defeated Italy during the latters invasion of the former in the early 20th century
You are mixing the two events
>>56724042
>wikipedia
I find the idea of near total depopulation of Sicilly hard to swallow. That account doesn't add up with modern genetic studies or reality in general for that matter.
>>56724565
Maybe they don't like 'Italian' Italians, but they do like upwardly mobile, upper-middle class Italians. It's a class issue. WASPs don't like poor WASPs either.
I am part of the Canadian mafia, be scared.
>>56723818
>a successful invasion implies that all of the women were raped and the entire people turned into rape babies despite not having control of the region for even a century
I hate when niggers try to in2history
Look
>>56722177
So I'm 2.5-5% african
I can live with that, I guess that's why I'm good at sports
>>56721377
>muh heritage
>muh nationality
What's the difference faggot?
>>56726445
The fact that that chart equivocates on 'African' should instantly indicate to you that the authors are trying to push a point of view. Try critical thinking, that's a cool trick.
2-5% has always been the absolute high ball estimate. The *majority* of credible, scientific studies have shown below 1% NORTH African admixture.
Italian-Americans (Southern Italian, at least) have it fucking made.
>darker skin
>more masculine features (hair particularly)
>dem eyebrows
>athletic
>big dicks
>still white
>exotic (at least your girlfriend thinks so)
We get all the benefits of being black, and all the benefits of being white. How fucking jelly are you Germanic and Irish pasty little shits? Wop master race.
>>56726869
>>56724893
> Hey, sorry, I was just wondering if I could get some of that protection money you owe us, no, ok I'll ask again later, sorry
>>56722939
>The highest HDI regions of Italy are central, not Northern.
Source?
>>56728094
>>56728299
>source: our elaboration
Yeah, i was asking because we don't have official hdi figures for single regions and the closest thing i had was pic related which weirdly enough has the same values for southern italy but different values for the north... actually it's only Piedmont now that i look at it
>>56722379
I'm half Friulian and half Apulian? Am I white?
>>56728680
It's a screenshot from an academic paper in Italian that had the only real HDI numbers I could find. You guys make it really difficult. I'll admit I've since lost the study (I think it was Cavalli-Sforza, but it remains more credible than a random blog post.
>tfw 50% Sicilian
Feels pretty good. Also, the Sicilian Mafia are defending NYC from mudslime scum from beyond the shadows.
>>56721671
>a mutt
>doesn't realise almost everyone that doesn't live in some remote jungle somewhere has mixed heritage.
>>56728842
The mafia are degenerates who belong on crosses. Don't legitimize them.
>>56728907
Nice try, Ahmed.
>>56720605
On the north shore of Sicily, right in the middle, is the town of Cefalu. In Cefalu today there still stands a very dilapidated structure, an old villa which was famously used by Aleister Crowley for maximum degeneracy. This place is called the Abbey of Thelema, and sex magick and full cult life were practiced at all hours. A guy died from drinking cat blood, and copulation with animals took place.
Mussolini (and/or his government) got wind of the degeneracy and expelled the cult a few years later. Italy would not see such abject degeneracy again until the (fictional) events of "Salo", set near the end of the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_Thelema
Sicilians are niggers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM
nuff said
>>56728797
I found the paper you were talking about but it's not exactly hdi, it takes gender equality and other shit into account which the actual hdi doesn't
>>56729291
It's actual HDI, it just has equality adjusted HDI and other things in other values. That's not exactly uncommon for sociological study.
Equality adjusted HDI makes sense to me. It better reflects average prosperity.
>>56728878
yeah it's mostly a joke I mean Sicily has been controlled by all sorts of different people over the years.
Still, both sides of my family are from Sicily and most Americans can't say their ancestors are all from the same country.
>>56720727
>Lithunaia
>White
>>56721377
Enough with that shit. You're not American and never ever will be American. Unless you are a Native living in some reservation you will never be American, you are an Italian.
>>56729375
I don't think ihdi uses gender equality... nothing wrong with it as long as they don't use retarded definitions of gender inequality
Well anyway, i don't really care about hdi and similar rankings, i don't think they are a good way to compare countries or regions
>>56720605
Nah nigga we green.
We got dat olive skin.
>>56721550
Topanga is the only reason TGIF existed on ABC and she's from there. I think Mila Kunis too.
>>56721756
>Anglo
>White
Brits aren't even white, they are celtic/viking rape babies and don't even look close to being white.
>>56721977
Netherlanders are niggers so what's your point?
>>56722837
How so?
>>56729667
I wouldn't give it much credence either given that I think 'gender equity' is inversely proportional to the long-term political stamina of a country, but we should focus on the the fact that it doesn't take away from my argument given that it isn't reflected in the raw HDI numbers posted, simply in the opinions of the authors who published that study.
Do I think HDI is a credible way to compare countries? Only partially. But when we're having the argument 'Why is Southern Italy impoverished?' and racialism comes up, I think it makes sense to make arguments out of data rather than feels. The fact that central Italy doesn't conform to the hypothesis of Italian intra-racialism despite being genetically intermediate between Northern and Southern Italy makes zero sense, let alone things we haven't discussed such as Southern Italian-American IQ parity with Germanic Americans.
>>56723754
>North/Central Italy
>White
At least they have norman blood, North/central italians have nothing but shitskin blood tyrone.
>>56730048
Ethnicity is the basis, fundamental building block of social cohesion and the general character of a civilization. Civic nationalism is the artificial, sociological imposition of a false identity on disparate peoples that has historically been shown to be subservient to the forces of ethnicity. Artificially ordained empires often build their self-justification through force, and are riven with ethnic conflict borne from ethnic divisions in their false construct of identity.
>>56724353
You're an obvious troll Argentina
>>56730092
Yeah, i agree but it's a far too big subject to discuss here, there are obvious historical causes, saying that they're niggers is just diverting from the argument
I think that for this particular purpose hdi is especially bad though, two regions can have very different economic models and end up looking a lot more different on paper than they really are, you would need to be even more geographically specific to avoid this
>>56728725
I guess, why not.
>>56729100
Irish, Brits, Germans, North Europeans, Slavs, and Central Europeans are niggers. Nuff said.
>>56726869
Our affinity for gold chains and nigger antics at the beach I could do without however.
>>56720605
North of Italy is white. Sicily is Turkey.
>>56731109
And Briton is 0% white. Just look at the average anglo. He's not white at all.
>>56731109
Northern or Southern Italian?
>>56720605
Depends what part of Sicily you are from. If you are from the Western part like Palermo you are probably have some North African or Arab blood. If you are from the Eastern part you probably have some Norman or Greek blood.
get in faggot
we're going kike killing
>>56730914
You're hot babe sup
>>56731310
Holy shit that makes sense
>>56726869
>ayrap mongrel rape babies having anything but brown skin, small brown weenies and cack-skin
>>56731586
>ugly people aren't white
Even your cherry-picking is non-convincing. You can do better.
>>56731586
Remember when he shot that guy in the foot and then made a joke about the time he was shot in the foot?
>>56731586
Explains England. They are rape-babies from Romans, Vikings, and Celts. Explains why the Brits and Scots are non-white, ugly, black, and niggish.
>>56724201
Well fucking no, the Po river splits italy (north) and terronia (South)
>>56720605
looks like that women from sweden who got raped then thrown down into rocks lmao
>>56722002
1. Malta is the most Catholic place in the world (dat amazing church with the fallen heroes...)
2. Corsica belongs to the great Genoa, la Superba
too bad Liguria is shit now...
>>56731260
looks like a muzzie to me
>>56723216
>The olive oil people
Only us Ligurians can be called that.
>>56732340
Wrong!
The correct answer was "Milanese, Northern Italian, leader of a white supremacist/separatist group called the Lega Nord".
Queue your laughter.
>>56731310
Capaci and Isola de la femene
essentially palermo
>>56732515
>white supremacist
Is this what the media says in other countries?
>>56732748
I said it tongue-in-cheek to mock the idea of this swarthy little fucker role-playing as a white man and trying to 'otherize' the South on the basis of he himself being an inferior being to more pale hominids (like myself).
The American media doesn't know about Lega Nord.
>>56732832
Even when lega nord was about padania independence it was never about race, nobody gives a fuck about race here
>>56732985
I thought the whole point of Lega Nord is that they are genetically superior to the Southerners?
>>56732985
That's simply incorrect. The 'terrone' distinction has always been made racially, in terms of appearance. You could maybe argue that it's implicit, but no less valid.
>>56732515
Northern Italians are really uppity about their supremacy to southerners.
seems like bullshit to me
>>56733133
You would have to define a Neapolitan race or a Sicilian race to do so... sure, there were some things that you could describe as racism against them but it wouldn't be white supremacist, it would be northern italian supremacist or something like that but mostly it was about money, who pays and who receives in italy and less about genetics... they also hate Roma which isn't southern italy but wastes money just the same
>>56733429
The normative ideal is always implicitly towards the conception of the Nordic ideal. There's probably some basis in fact for it, but Northern Italians should reject it on the basis that they will never in any capacity reach the normative ideal in a way that makes them anything but a subservient race and country to their Germanic overlords.
Mussolini himself recognized this and rejected some aspects of Hitler's racialism as a result.
>>56732606
You most likely have Arab blood in you then. Palermo was one of the first cities to fall to the Arabs and was their largest and most important city duing their time in Sicily. My family is from the Eastern part and we believe that we have Norman blood. The dialect of the town my family is from has French mixed in with it and we are taller than the average person from Southern Italy/Sicily (I'm 6 ft and he's 6'1"). Reading on the town's history it says that the Normans brought a lot of immigrants from Lombardy and Piedmont (Northern Italy). Who knows though, Sicily has had so many different groups conquer and have influence on it that really the only way to know what you are is a DNA test.
Only white part of Italy used to be Austria.
>>56734350
Britian isn't white so STFU
>>56733207
Northern Italians are keked Austrians who wanted to be shitskins.
>>56734573
Yes dear colonial, will stfu as your argument is too compelling. Btw how's your monarch doing?
>>56734763
Austrians are the shitskins of Germany. Southern Germans are the shitskins of Northern Germans. Northern Germans are the shitskins of Sweden.
>3 legs
does the name Tripodi have any significance here?
>>56734889
No.
>>56735161
Ye.
>>56735220
Shitskins live south of the alps. So everything you said is invalid.
Its a climate thing, but i dont think you will understand.
>>56734763
>implying Austrians aren't shitskins.
Ben Franklin knew Austrians and Southern Germans were pure shitskin.
>>56720882
hey, my great grandparents fled poland in the 1890s. Are you from chicago?
>>56735550
Swarthy Austrians and Southern Germans are objectionable by most standards of Nordicism. My particular brand only accepts the aryan nature of a small town in Sweden that wears paper mache hats as a cultural custom.
Only the british are "white".
This is a fact.
If you are not born from two white parents, and you do not reside in britiania, you are not white.
>>56720605
bianco come il carbone compa
>>56734779
>Anglo
>White
Anglos look ugly as fuck and have darkhair and eyes
>>56735846
>Brits
>white
I have sicilian ancestry.
The food is good.
>>56735650
>chicago
No, commiefornia
>>56720605
average iq is 92
your as white as a turk is white
>>56720605
I'd fuck Ceres
>>56739765
>Ireland
>White
Ireland aren't white, but I think the British were going a tiny bit too far saying Irish weren't human. Also Irish are mentally retarded so they are pretty niggish.
>>56739765
The average IQ of Sicilian-Americans is statistically indistinct from 100, like other ethnic-Americans.
>>56740169
>>56739765
I should just point out that the largest collection of data on Irish IQ (200,000 samples from 10 studies) has it at 92.8. Ron Unz discusses this data on his blog.
96(1964) = 90
3466(1972) = 87
1361(1988) = 97
191(1990) = 87
2029(1991) = 96
1361(1993) = 93
2029(1993) = 91
10000(2000) = 95
3937(2009 PISA) = 100
200(2012) = 92
>>56740698
20,000* samples.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2012/08/14/raceiq-irish-iq-chinese-iq/
